I took a 450cc Dirt Bike to a Race Track.. (Supermoto vs Sport Bike)

Well it turns out I brought a knife to a gun fight.. In today's video we head out to Mid Ohio Raceway for my first track day. Big thanks to John for inviting me out but man I had no idea what I was getting myself into. First off I was the only Supermoto in an ocean of Sport Bikes, I didn't realize the sheer size of the track which made the CRF450RX a terrible bike for the job. Regardless, I geared up and headed out to stage, with the advanced groups ahead of us we started off and I got to experience my first laps on a professional race track. Regardless of the lack of top speed, the 450 was a blast to ride, catching up quickly to the sport bikes in the corner and having to chase them down in the straights. Overall I had an amazing time and I would definitely do it again, on another bike that is😅
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[@jokly1264]

Invest in a separate chain and sprocket sets for supermoto. A long track like this could make good use of a 15 tooth up front and a 45 in the rear. Go down to a 14t front for a moderately tight track, and stock gearing for a really tight track. That'll give you 3 distinct gear ratios to work with to stretch this thing out and keep you from feeling like you're going to blow it up. Stock gives you a .255, 14t/45 gives you .311, and a 15t/45 will give you .333. If you want to bridge the gap between stock and 14/45 go ahead and get a 13 as well for a .288. You'll be ready for any track with these.

[@frostyab7579]

figure out a ratio that will barely hop the front wheel in first and not let him fully power wheelie the bike

[@NAUT758]

@@frostyab7579 i think jokly knows what he's/she/s talking about

[@AliasTekTV]

Can't do a 15, not enough room for it AFAIK. 14/46 would be a good start.

[@Mr_Smith1327]

@@AliasTekTV Really? weird, well I guess we are the insne ones putting 17's on dirtbikes hahaha. I run 15/45 on the supermoto setup for my '08 KTM 530EXC-R to keep rpm down at highway speeds, it does 100km/h (62mph) at 4900rpm. I'm not sure what the redline is on my bike but if you were being mad and spinning it to 9000rpm you could get 120mph out of it. And yes I am literally sitting here with the gear ratios and tyre size doing the math hahaha

[@AliasTekTV]

@@Mr_Smith1327 on the CRF450 the case saver bosses are close to the sprocket. I run a 14/50 on my 450L, and should be good for 120 at the limiter of 10k. I have the head and cam modded to accept the 450RX cam so I’m somewhere near 55/60rwhp. I let off at 117 as the stock tires aren’t rated for over 90.

[@nomadicfenceman509]

I’m thinkin the 450 is ready for a service after that day

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[@MrPagargar1]

No doubt 😂😂😂 them valves are crying for sure

[@hondaep3813]

Sadly your probably right but he's being pretty easy on her. Lol. People at the dirt track always on the valves. = revlimiter.

[@hondaep3813]

@@bilbobaggins4710 there's ways around it. Say just get you a wr250 that needs a rebuild and throw in a yz250 two stroke in it. The problem with two stroke is emissions and sound ordnance. But if you have a frame that has a title dont matter what motor you use. Lol.

[@mattwood741]

What a cool opportunity! You could definitely see the progression throughout the video as you got comfortable… by the end you were laying down in the corners lol! Awesome stuff! Anxious to see the CBR ride and something more suited for that environment. Always great content man!

[@Leon_149]

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[@gypsymanjeff2184]

Running a 13 Beta 520RR,,best all around bike ive ever owned from single track to enduro ,and sm just a change of sprockets and sm wheels or gummys,,GOOD TO GO .YOUR bikes capable of way more,,Im 60+ and living it bro

[@christiankaae8852]

It's so cool to see someone doing there first track day you can really see how you have evolved looking at this footage

[@toethumbmorris9]

Good job branching out and trying new things! I'd love to see more track days!

[@yagersgarage8170]

It was great having you at the track … next time we’ll get you on the Aprilia Tuono … that just might be the machine for you ! I’m stoked you had a fun day.

[@Leon_149]

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[@benslocke]

Thanks!

[@benslocke]

This was amazing to watch, thank you for doing what were all too afraid to do!

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you my friend! I appreciate the support.

[@axeman6560]

Sprockets and chain? Next time , looked like fun.

[@ignoramus3825]

Looks fun. Didn't even notice about the suit til ya said so. You were the only one stylin😂

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[@marcelhollis3137]

I did something similar years ago with a Suzuki VT250 Cruiser. I was out there with 750cc sportbikes, but in the end, it was just myself and another guy on a 2-stroke 250 who were bombing around the track, because it started to rain really heavily, and no one else want to risk it on their slicks. I was running road tires and had a great time.

[@willgarrod9907]

Brilliant, I use my Husqvarna 701 for 4-5 track days each summer here in UK and it is a riot.

[@Leon_149]

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[@Spartan375X]

The 450's singing really stands out among the other bikes there.

[@Leon_149]

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[@lrrs428]

I top out at NJMP and Pitt Race 118mph and Loudon 108mph , Pays to have seperate gearing for different tracks, Come Play with the Penguin School next year , lots of us on Supermotos

[@normasnockers323]

FULL FAIRING AND SOME CLIP ONS DUDE YOUàLL BE WHIPPING THEM, FUN VIDEO, MANY THANKS

[@ConnorGMedia]

Damn, ngl this wasn't exactly the most supermoto friendly track😂😂 . You still killed it tho! Would love to make a track video on my 250L but buying sumo wheels would be nearly a third of the bike

[@MotoAnthony]

Could you wrap the OEM wheels with road DOT tires? Surely there are some that will fit 21" and 18"

[@Chumbucketsecret]

@@MotoAnthony you can but not without custom made rubber.

[@ConnorGMedia]

@@Chumbucketsecret ya probably gonna end up going with some ADV style tires ://

[@Chumbucketsecret]

@@ConnorGMedia I’m a crack head & need the gold warp 9s, will shamelessly spend 1600$ on them 😂 had my 450l for only a year plan to have it done for next summer

[@ConnorGMedia]

@@Chumbucketsecret haha i understand it 10000%. im honestly surprised i've had the self control this long to not get them 😂😂

[@doobielawson702]

The dude in front of you was struggling a bit with those corners. But he's out there getting better.

[@Leon_149]

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[@bjdiss]

Thanks man. That was me. Every session got better.

[@southerntiersupermoto884]

I think a few others have said it, but go with some nice low gearing and find the nearest kart track, they're cheaper to ride at and the supermoto is SOOOO MUCH better suited to it. It will seriously blow your mind.

[@AliasTekTV]

Needs taller gearing for track days for sure!

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[@donniebaker5984]

And a CR500r two-stroke making 80 or 85 horsepower wouldn't hurt either especially if you like to be first.. has John force used to say second place is only the first looser

[@donniebaker5984]

Two strokes make boost four strokes can only suck

[@donniebaker5984]

Obviously this expert four-stroke dude has never heard of American flat track racing as the GNCC singles with engines of the same as this Moto midget rides.. but then American flat track there is a girl who does 120 sideways on her 450 KTM

[@AliasTekTV]

@@donniebaker5984 You do know there aren't any CR500s that make 80+ horsepower, right? They made at best 58-60, and some porting with a pipe to about 65. There is the liger top ends that are unobtainium that push to 80+, but they are bored and with many grand in machine work and parts.

[@jetstream_GS]

You should try out Nelsons ledges in NE Ohio it’s a much more supermoto friendly track! There’s a TD there on Oct 9th.

[@MusicSensations1971]

If your monkey around with your sprocket number of tooth you can probably get that bike to do well over a 100

[@8Rider6]

Dats me a 4:46. Everyone on the track with you was also in Novice. Intermediate and Advanced are on the track at separate times, in Novice you just sort of organize yourself by experience and bike speed. I don't think I'd want to be on that track on anything less than an SV650 or something with at least 70-75hp.

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[@yagersgarage8170]

Thanks for clearing up how the groups are done. He did a great job , that’s also why I wanted him to ride my 2019 SP , so he could experience one of the newer sport bikes. Probably should have had him try the Aprilia Tuono as well.

[@firstamendmenttshirt4768]

🧐 hmm, slow poke. You need the KTM 690 an you will do 120mph lol. Might still get them on the corners.

[@Leon_149]

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[@64t120r]

Trackdays are a blast. Doesn't matter what you're riding.

[@toyzillagod]

Holy crap. I just started the video and noticed you are wearing the same shirt as me!! I love my American flag shirt! Now back to watching the rest of the video...

[@Leon_149]

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[@2manytoyzz668]

That looks like so much fun. I’d love to get my Africa Twin out there!

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[@olivers.7964]

Why "rent a suit"? You were the coolest mate on the track...

[@rubberskilla2991]

I went there a couple weeks ago. Had a freakin blast. Have yet to upload the footage

[@AdventureDaily]

It’s a good time! I felt like I was in a video game.

[@rubberskilla2991]

@@AdventureDaily yea your bike glitched the game and you got stuck on the intro part of the game tho lol my bike was a tad more suited to the task lol

[@rubberskilla2991]

@@AdventureDaily once you touch 160 down the strait Bowser hops out before the braking markers to see what your made of

[@BarnStangz]

Looked like a fun time. Find yourself an old RC51 and head back there to show 'em what's up.

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[@DaSSaNcHeZz]

90mph sprocket what were you thinking hahaha

[@64faffi]

If this was your first outing, you did really good. Also, the group you were riding in rode in what I would call a typical sport touring pace for the road, which obviously helped you stay in touch. Still, considering the lack of power on your bike, it was clear to me that you could easily have left your group well behind with a bike similar to theirs.

[@johncamara1650]

Looks like a commute to work.

[@lukefish7562]

My dealer wants me to get the warp 9s for my 450RL. Probably will eventually. Thanks for showing me what’d it’d be like.

[@JP-ec9rl]

There are roads in the Ohio River Valley in Ohio and West Virginia where I live, that bike is made for. You would have a blast here on that thing. There's nothing faster on a tight twisty mountain road than a supermoto. A sport bike has all kinds of speed that is completely irrelevant on certain roads.

[@KLRmurdercycle]

You said it...people can't believe I can giver on this tall klr, with 50/50 tires. Don't even know what street tires feel like on it. That 450 isn't as fast as other 450s out there, but it would be a riot.✌

[@JP-ec9rl]

@@KLRmurdercycle I've had several dual sports. I've never been faster on anything else in the tight and twisties. I ride a chieftain these days. Still ride it like I stole it. It's probably the most agile, confident and stable bagger I've ever ridden at high speeds but any 800 lb motorcycle with limited lean angle has it's limitations. It's very well balanced and feels more like a 600 lb bike but I'd still love to have an SMCR to take out and really rip on. I'd probably get hurt or in trouble though if I had one.

[@KLRmurdercycle]

@@JP-ec9rl 😆true. Probably in trouble. Seems there's a continental hunt on for anyone riding supermoto. A valkyrie, shadow, boulevard, and I forget the name of the victory are the only cruisers I've tried. My inner shoulders and back of legs get buggy on them. I get that while driving long distance in a car too. But up right like a dualsport, I can go a long time. The FTR keeps calling me though😄 Need to test one.

[@JP-ec9rl]

@@KLRmurdercycle it's muscle memory. Once I got used to floorboards and heel shifters, with the right seat being key, I like being on a cruiser as much as anything else. A good moderate ape hanger makes for better posture but I haven't undertaken that very involved and expensive processes on the Indian just yet. It's like 800 bucks or more if they're pre-wired I did it on my boulevard several years back and it makes a difference but I've got more than 12000 miles on the Indian now and one good trip from West Virginia to Maine and back and it's every compromise I've ever wanted in a bike. I had a 2014 ultra classic before this but I prefer the Indian. Had a raider before that and absolutely loved that machine but wanted the tunes and hard bags for commuting and touring.

[@JP-ec9rl]

@@KLRmurdercycle the trouble aspect on the smcr. There's not many cops on the back roads in West Virginia and most of our roads are 55 mph anyway so nobody really cares if you're tearing up a back ass country road around here. I'd probably just end up becoming a hood ornament doing something really stupid.

[@r1dutch]

A sumo on a short track like Jennings or Little Tally is an absolute blast. The liter bikes can't get enough top end to get away from you. And you can out brake just about everyone other than another sumo. So much fun.

[@geemy9675]

can you really outbreak sports bike ? it's definitely lighter but sports bike have enough stopping power to reach the limit of the tire anyway no matter how heavier they are, and the SM higher CoG(especially with the rider standing more upright), shorter wheelbase, and softer suspension means the rear wheel will lift from the ground much sooner..

[@r1dutch]

@@geemy9675 I can absolutely outbrake a sportbike on my supermoto, and do it regularly. As for how, it weighs almost 200 pounds less and has a 3 pot brembo caliper. Physics is physics.

[@one-of-us9939]

Good job my brother.

[@just_in_time5518]

very cool!

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[@jasons5842]

Gotta get down in those corners

[@kheff46]

Very cool! Good job!

[@AdventureDaily]

Thanks!

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[@Clay_everly]

The guy ahead of you could’ve passed many times and I bet he wouldn’t have tried to overtake you. Mans goin wide in some of those turns sketched me out!

[@bjdiss]

Yea, that was me. First track day ever. Sketched me out too! But I got some good coaching and fixed a ton of mistakes!

[@southpawpaw7967]

That was just rad, way to have fun with it

[@Gemidrift]

Corner speed and late ass braking is our good friend in sumo life also tucking and I usually grab my left fork leg just below the triple to get some aero happening lol

[@bad001bd]

Nelson Ledges is another great track up near Youngstown. It has fewer long straights than midohio, and it's quite a bit cheaper as well

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[@bad001bd]

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[@rymerc]

It was nice to meet you and Alexis and chat for a few. If I see you out there again you're free to take my gsxr out for a session or two.

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[@daveyt4802]

Drag strip next!! wOOt! SM is probably giggling the most under the helmet by far.

[@dazzerf8392]

Looking forward to the big bike video 👍🏻

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[@Gemidrift]

Let’s get this track day cracking yooooo

[@PatFarrellKTM]

MidOhio is one of my favorite tracks to ride, back when I road raced. Another great one in the new Pitt Race course near Pittsburgh.

[@sandysmith7485]

Sweet. Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.

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[@georgewarshington1230]

CBR! ride red get....well you know where this is going

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[@ohiosupermoto6260]

If you really want to have a good time on that bike come out to G&J Kartway in Camden Oh or PIRC in Pittsburg. Kart tracks are where the supermotos shine! DM us if you want to set something up!

[@420jeffworkman1982]

@adventure daily do it!

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[@GromBeardo]

Love Mid-Ohio. Did the California Super Bike School there with one of my brothers years ago. Great track!

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[@sdadi9170]

KZbin is getting comfortable with the 2 unskippable afs

[@AdventureDaily]

Thanks for the support💸

[@billcotton1551]

That was awesome! I can't wait for the CBR.

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[@thonczarenko]

Mid-Ohio has some loooooooong straights.

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[@spartanchirho]

You're going to get addicted to speed. Dual sport death . I certainly would!

[@TeamNoAffiliation]

What Organization did you ride with? Looks like STT, but I'm not sure.

[@alexp6409]

I would definitely be in for some track content!

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[@Georgeqaws]

I have a feeling the ktm 500 exc-f would have enough power to do this with the right gearing well.

[@tdel8613]

Yeah this short ratio on the rx is a nono unfort

[@JRodSMX]

Not as well as you think. I had a 2014 and 2018 500exc and both feel gutless with gearing for top end speed. Those 450/510cc bikes are better suited at a supermoto or kart track. For a big track like this you’ll need a 701/690 since it has a street bike engine and gearing.

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[@samveel8393]

this is awesome

[@uknowthat1guy688]

At least you didnt bring a low clearance cruiser like mine. You'd been dragging soft parts on most curves at speed.

[@joeyriveira6697]

Dang !! This brought back memories of when I raced my crf450 in Hawaii against all the sport bikes back in 06-08 I ran 3 different bikes over the 3 yrs . They placed me in 600ss class . Each year I’d win the overall . Yes I didn’t have top speed but I had the breaking advantage and the ability to outrun everyone thru corners . We had 2 course setups & on short course I’d lap they entire field some twice . I’d even drag race my bike and best posted time was an 11.02 in the 1/4 mile even upset many cars especially this dude in a z06 who was talking trash to my buddies who had Subarus . He got so butt hurt when a dirtbike beat his holy grail corvette he never came back around after that run . Once you get ur hearing sorted you’ll be way faster I’m pretty sure I was over 110mph plus I had ran Baja designs gears for 5th/6th they allowed 10-15% better top end speed .

[@Wreckhouse69]

How does your bike top out at 70? I have a damn Suzuki 450 goes 91 stock? So confused how same class bike goes 21min faster it’s a damn 2015 aswell I’m dumb he hit 88 lol

[@AdventureDaily]

😆

[@TheShift1313]

Go to circleville Oh if its still open. You can show up any day and ride for like $10. Kart tracks are definitely a better fit.

[@Capital993]

Yeah buddy!

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[@brandonmullins7406]

The husky 701 and the ktm 690 are made for this

[@AdventureDaily]

Would have been a blast!

[@danhurley6152]

Try not sitting on the back of the seat 😆

[@lydon2680]

Get a 700cc 2stroke on there 😂

[@TheEagleman193]

How do you think the Crf450rl would compare to that bike doing the same thing on the track

[@erichess5566]

How do you like the gripper gopro chin mount??? Stay secure?

[@stevenramos6388]

Loving the content my guy

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[@jimconradtee1684]

How tall are you bro? The 450 looked tiny when you sat on it bro.😅

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[@achilleas_christ9136]

a 701 would be nice here

[@mackincheez8647]

I wonder how an XR 650 would fair..

[@futokarin9745]

If it was a 450 2 stroke this video would be watched by me

[@mrshaneyt43]

This was great 👍

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[@Motolympics]

Looks SOOOOO fun

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[@christianjcarnahan940]

Elbows up

[@TheLaughingMan42]

You gotta take that thing to a gokart track. Then you can really fly.

[@kenharty6016]

Put a bigger front sprocket on

[@scottellingson9717]

Maybe a gearing switch next time. With that it would rip.

[@TheHoovercm]

That was cool; I cringed every time you wound it out though.

[@williamdeaton1218]

Put the dirt tires back on and go to rush off-road in ky. I can show you some fun riding!!

[@AdventureDaily]

I have always wanted to check out Rush!

[@williamdeaton1218]

@@AdventureDaily you’re in Ohio right? I live near Georgetown Ohio in southern brown county. I frequent rush a lot. I could give you one heck of a tour. Place is amazing. Has trials for all skill levels.

[@williamdeaton1218]

I’ll likely be going this Sunday actually. I try to go somewhere every other week. Typically it’s to rush though because it’s such a big vast area to ride. It’s never boring.

[@needmetal3221]

They let you keep the kick stand?

[@discmotoslots]

Gotta gear it up for that track. And pull that kick-stand off of there man! I'm surprised they let you on the track with that thing on there!?

[@joebone3151]

Because it's ignorant to not have one most if not all the bikes are street legal so why get rid of that get one that holds closer to the frame. If you don't want it.

[@discmotoslots]

@@joebone3151 when you take a street bike to the track you would remove the kickstand so it doesn't come out while your racing & launch you over the bars in a big high-side! But you keep racing with a kick-stand sport! lol

[@purpleduster20]

Id ike to see a trip to the track with each bike you own!

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[@dankeifer]

If you had a 701 you would be ale to keep up much better.

[@EnglertRacing96]

Wow. No corner entry speed and way slow throttle application.

[@SovaKlr]

rev 'er bro... they make rebuild kits every day

[@jayvdz]

Nice one! Though am I the only one shocked that you're not required to wear full leathers and a track rated helmet/visor?

[@joebone3151]

As long as the head is safe they don't care. This is not a professional race but a track day

[@downlowgo_401]

The amount of ads on KZbin in the modern age is sickening..

[@tinmisuun]

That looks like fun. Is there a supermoto track near you?

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[@njmxjunkie3128]

Did you calibrate your trail tech for the 17inch wheels before you went on the track? Your speed seemed off. Your top speed didn’t seem to match the rpms, I have the same bike to the tee and going over 60-70 I’m maxed out in rpms

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[@gripitandripit7957]

You should put the sm wheels back on the 300l or upgear the 450

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[@hooligantimes9132]

I would love to get my C8 out there!

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[@Toast4days]

So surprised it didn’t blow up lol

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[@amanteapasionado6836]

You shoulda changed the sprockets before you went

[@AdventureDaily]

Agreed.

[@hunterhill1013]

How big is that enclosed trailer dawg?

[@markmtbrider]

Just don't ever go out in the wrong group with a slow bike. A guy was killed when rear ended by another rider and several injured severely when the first guy swerved to avoid the slow guy, and the rest that were in the draft didn't have time to react. Might have been 10 years ago or so , but watching the bikes fly past you and your group brings back that sickening incident to mind.

[@Leon_149]

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[@neurosick]

I'm confused why some people don't use the gear in dirt bike and get more speed ? Theres like 5 or 6 gears right ?

[@generality9559]

who doesn’t?

[@Leon_149]

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