George RR Martin Throws Shade at David and Dan

[@mr.handsomecoffeecup2406]

"We've could've gone to 13 seasons, but they wanted a life" Look how they massacred my boy

[@tommywong3147]

that's why we need virtual actors and actress. Never complaint never ends and never die

[@TorsosFancam]

​@@tommywong3147 then people will be pushing for virtual audiences as well

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

Wot. They wanted to rush thru the story and not let anyone else take over. The bastards.

[@andres.torres.arias-ec]

Hey very nice Vito Corleone reference 🤣🥃

[@Aki-ft9qb]

@@tommywong3147 wtf lmao

[@jerryamescua]

They dedicated a whole season to Ramsey torturing Theon but couldn’t give the Night King a few more episodes. NK should of had his own season

[@Morepants10]

Also, don't forget the whole Church and Lannister season. Now, looking back could've gotten rid of most of that and focused on the Night King.

[@Malaima]

yes, it is the stupid gore. but oh well... at least the last episode of season 8 was well edited.

[@jerryamescua]

@@Malaima lol

[@David-un4cs]

They cut out a lot of the magic in general sadly.

[@skylarkauffman8416]

They aslo invented a nonexistent storyline to rape and torture sansa but left lady stoneheart from the show all together. The two ds ( D&D will always be dungeons and dragons and should never be used to refer to these worthless hacks) have zero talent zero imagination and zero integrity. As soon as they ran out of written material the show goes to shit. They cut whole plotlines characters and changed everything to jerk off internet theorist

[@ShawnDC]

Night King Story and Dany's Madness SHOULD have been separate seasons.

[@RSA-ui9xy]

Awesome. Even I thought the same.

[@hanswou]

Or 12 episodes not 6

[@MaulerX]

Agreed. Dany becoming a mad queen almost instantly and her subsequent quick death didn't do her character justice whatsoever. Her heel turn should have been more fleshed out. Unreal how such a great show was ran to the ground like this.

[@vijayalakshmyk4002]

Dany turned into a mad queen can be acceptable Only of they have given enough reason Coming to her murder by Jon Snow can't be justified

[@nuclearwessels2078]

Agreed. I was ok with how Dany went mad until the finale. The explanation given in the show just did not make sense with her character. I also would have liked some more buildup for the Night King's death. I also wished Bran would have been given more screen time since they named him king. The season was not bad but very subpar for GOT.

[@Olzone]

When Ramsay said "if you think this has a good ending, you havent paying attention" i didnt know he was talking about season 8 .

[@Olzone]

@@CM-ip7ti why do you care? its season 8. its not worth defending bro.

[@Olzone]

@@CM-ip7ti oh, so you are tired of stupid jokes, so you comment on one to stop. trying to stop 1 at the time. still dont see the logic bro you got billions to go man. but good luck on ya quest.

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

@@CM-ip7ti shut up

[@breakfaith3031]

All of you shut up

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@Olzone You know what I don't like? Self-righteous stupidity. So, precisely because I am tired of self-righteous stupidity, I will post a comment criticising someone's self-righteous stupidity. In part because it might reduce the amount of self-righteous stupidity in the world, but mostly because it is cathartic to express how I feel. No matter how many billions of self-righteous idiots I have to go through, it will always be cathartic. Now, do you see the logic of why someone might criticise your mistake? Further, does it occur to you that maybe the joke would've landed better if you didn't make a mistake? And maybe, just maybe, changing the mistake when it was pointed out to you would have had a net positive effect on the world? I know I'm being way to harsh on you, but when I see these kinds of empty rhetorical tricks I get annoyed. If you disagree with someone, explain why they are wrong, don't just go for the e-peen points.

[@aaronsmith5004]

Whats frustrating.. Is if d&d didn't want to do more seasons then fine.. But pass the torch to a writer who does

[@quilliamattari2772]

EXACTLY! I honestly wish the worst on D&D.

[@mattmmilli8287]

GMM said he did not want anyone else to do it :/

[@taylorhope4651]

Yeah but also like he said, the actors want to work on other things

[@go_rilla262]

Like who? Who's qualified to finish GRRM'S work? GRRM couldn't even do it.

[@roccov787]

Yea like George should pass the torch to someone who will actually write the books....

[@SongRater1though50]

Essentially, they compiled 3-4 whole seasons into one single disaster of a finale season

[@Holligan878]

Essentially they stuffed 4-5 seasons into season 7 and then got convinced to turn that into 2 shorter seasons to make season 8 happen.

[@rexnoct5810]

@@jimmyjab190 season 7 is the only season i could see being considered bad, but it wasnt that bad

[@lengwei4864]

@@rexnoct5810 even g.o.t.s worse better than most TV I thought s8 I noticed something couldn't out my finger on it,season7 was class but small lil holes then season8 came,g.o.t/twin peaks /Battlestar Galactica the wire all up there no matter what

[@DJ-Hinge]

@@jimmyjab190 then why did you watch it? You're just here to spread hatred. If you think something is boring you stop at the first season or the first episode. You don't watch 8 seasons and then later say they were all boring

[@DJ-Hinge]

@@jimmyjab190 it did get better up until season 7. It had a great story line if you really gave into it. But after season 6 it just died

[@ashiljohn]

GRRM wanted 13 seasons HBO wanted 10 seasons D&D wanted.... Star Wars!

[@csharp57]

You do know as artist it's their right to move on?? (Edited two years later) Stop replying. This conversation is old as fuck. I don't care anymore. Keep your dumbass opinions to yourself.

[@Eisenbison]

@@csharp57 D&D are bullshit artists through and through. There is NO excuse for how they handled the rushed ending so piss-poorly, and shame on you if you're defending them.

[@brianmead7556]

And now there won't even be D&D Star Wars!

[@SupportGamin2025]

@Vice TOLUCT I don't give a fuck,grow the hell up,the world isn't rainbows and pixie dust

[@MCSPARTAN501]

@@brianmead7556 The sad part is that D&D Star Wars would probably have happened if they finished Game of Thrones properly. Maybe the timing wouldn't have been right and they would have had to back out of that project, but when they finally finished Game of Thrones, they'd have accomplished so much that they could easily pitch an idea to Lucasfilm. Now they simply don't have that much cred as writers anymore.

[@DrevorReal]

That's not throwing shade. That is an incredibly polite and professional writer acknowledging what everyone already knew - that the series could have kept going had it not been for D&Ds wishes.

[@Jacob-ge1py]

That's basically what throwing shade is.

[@ArkhanTheMack]

@@Jacob-ge1py Not really? Throwing shade would be if he, subtly or otherwise, complained about how D&D were acting unprofessionally or that they had done a poor job, or saying anything negative about them. What GRRM's comments boils down to is "These guys didn't want to work on it anymore and have a life, and that's fair enough." The only reason this video is titled this way is because the uploader has a massive well known hatred for D&D and is very open about it.

[@serbanandreimarin]

@@ArkhanTheMack You really missed the mark on the "have a life" part It was a pretty obvious mocking joke, since GoT was simply part of their job and not something that took away all of their free time

[@vikorovstock2432]

It's the closest he can get to throwing shade while still maintaining other professional relationships. No one wants to work with the guy who shat all over his previous coworkers and all that.

[@dariang4725]

Even Aegon Targarian isn't above posting cringe ass clickbait on KZbin.

[@santopablo792]

Ahh, that explains it, why season 8 feels like a thesis that was made an hour before the deadline.

[@Malaima]

best comparison EVER!

[@chefjonsf]

We deserved better. Anybody care about art and integrity anymore as our man Vince Gilligan did?

[@swanmcswan]

You already knew it was going to be like this. Expectations Vs Reality.....

[@m8ur882]

lol i just made a whole ass essay before the deadline today

[@BMbucky1]

They had to decide well before hand if they wanted to do 10 seasons or more as the actors would look too old. They aged perfectly for the roles they played but if they played them longer they'd be too old I guess

[@VictorHugoVideos]

Usually tv shows ends badly because they continue to make seasons when there's no story to go on. GoT is the first time the opposite happens

[@kaspervalentijn3120]

The opposite? Isn't that exactly what's going on here? They ran out of book material and started to make the story themselves right?

[@thulfiqarallebnani9420]

@@kaspervalentijn3120 he means usually people say a show is trash because it keeps on going like for 3 seasons which are worthless, while in GOT the opposite happened, they ended the show sooner then it should have. It could have been the best series ever with like 13 seasons that are not boring at all but unfortunately the opposite happened as well.

[@kaspervalentijn3120]

@@thulfiqarallebnani9420aaaah got ya, thnx!

[@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289]

Damn right. There was sooo much exposition to go on in the books, so much intrigue. Dumb and Dumber had a writer's gold mine handed to them on a golden platter, and they took the lazy way out.

[@aarondubourg3706]

There's shows like Supernatural that went o for too too long, there's shows like GoT that ended too soon, and there's shows like Firefly that didn't even get a chance to end. I use these 3 shows for the different ways a show can be ruined.

[@SkyZi9]

George: "they made some cuts" And "We have a lot of materials they could've Worked with..." And "Could've been 11, 12 seasons" This kills me by the words!

[@Lala-jl7mi]

Ikr. It hurts to hear that from him

[@moose5996]

It's just so sad man

[@adib3011]

Notice that he tries to hide his disappointment at the men who ruined his legacy.

[@Kibatsume1]

@@adib3011 well if he didn't want his legacy ruined he should stick to one project and finish it. If you look at the number of books he's released, number of books he's co-authored or edited for other Arthors it is no wonder wow remains incomplete

[@AS-vi5xh]

Adi B I wouldn’t say his legacy was ruined. Almost everyone who was disappointed by the final season or two were mad at David and Dan not George. In fact, George is one of the best writers of our time.

[@hyde4839]

GRRM : "Hi, how are you doing?" Reporter: "WhY iS iT EeeeNdInG!!!!!!!??"

[@ivanhammar]

Hyde lolllll

[@obaso.]

Lmao, just noticed that

[@coleturner9106]

I don't get obsessed fans like that. Everything has to end eventually.

[@obaso.]

cole turner the simpsons and family guy would like to know your location

[@Tempusverum]

All good things must have an end.

[@darkstar9380]

They should have just keep the 10 episodes format per season.

[@tomas7046]

The reason they did 7-8 like that is because there supposed be 10 seasons but they wanted 7 so they split season 7 in half basically into 7 and 8. Blame it on D&D because they wanted the show to end.

[@MrLASSEssein]

honestly I am pretty happy that the last season found an end now. It was quiet painful to watch a show for nearly ten years, always wait a year or two between the seasons and then see it rushed down like that. 10 Episodes in the Last season wouldn´t have made it better. It already started in season 6 and 7 and season 8 was the meltdown

[@fyodorkaramazov2136]

With 10 episode format you have to reduce these epic 1h20 battles to 52 min

[@ahmadtarek7763]

I honestly though season 8 would be 10 episodes even tho 7 was 7 as that was cool ( you know .......seven kingdoms and stuff ) Basically I hoped it would be like this Season 1-6 (10 episodes) Season 7 (7) Season 8-? (10)

[@pillcosby3949]

Especially since they didn’t want to do the full 10 seasons, total garbage

[@HuttyYT]

‘Should’ve been 10’ Absolutely

[@matheusgomes9343]

@@WreckItRolfe Should be 12!!!

[@ibrazrahman6112]

Season 8 night king Season 9 war with Cersei and dang getting throne Season 10 danys madness

[@endloesung_der_braunen_frage]

@@ibrazrahman6112 nah...

[@situation2490]

12

[@petrosarvanitis2800]

A perfect GOT for me: Season 1-6 pretty much the same, but also with a proper Dorne plot. Season 7, Dany arrives and she starts a war, setting the seeds for her going mad. Cersei acts like her father and makes a bunch of strategic moves. Ends with the white walkers destroying the wall. Season 8 .The white walkers attack but they reach much further than Winterfell. Dany and Cersei continue their war and maybe Highgarden and Dorne play a much bigger role in the war. Also the Greyjoys and other Houses help the war effort against the white walkers. Dany, who has shown many hints of going mad at this point, helps defeat the white walkers and falls in love with Jon. Season 9. The Cersei-Dany war now is front stage and but it involves more than 2 sides. The north recovers and in the last few episodes helps Dany, who has gone full mad at this point. The season ends with The destruction of King's Landing. Season 10. Dany breaks up with Jon but lets him live. She puts her plan of "freeing the whole world" in motion. A major battle happens with Highgarden and/or Dorne, in the first episodes, wickening both armies. Dany wins. She Starts going towards the north. The ninth episode (yes all seasons have 10 episodes) ends with Dany army fighting the northern houses, The Vale and the Riverrun houses, somewhere in Riverrun. There are "good" and "bad" people on both sides of the battle, kinda like the battle at blackwater bay. Jon wins and Sansa, who has shown true leadership skills from saving the north from starvation after the white walkers attack, sits on the iron throne. Jon becomes King in the North. Also the war feels much more like season 3. Where a lot of small battles happen of screen. It only needs 3-4 major battles to work

[@YoutYouber777]

I don't understand why D&D didn't just leave the show and let other writers continue it? Why cram 2-3 seasons in 6 episodes. Ruined the show for a lot of people..

[@xHugoxN7]

because EGO

[@pepeedge5601]

They wanted to be the only ones associated with the show. In short, as others have mentioned, ego.

[@stipe9k]

I heard HBO wanted 10 seasons, while D&D wanted only 7. HBO managed to make them stretch it to 8 seasons, but then they decided to shorten the number of episodes per season. HBO wanted the show to continue, but seeing as D&D didn't want to run the show past season 8, they decided not to hire new writers because they thought it was too much of a gamble concerning viewership. A dumb decision if you ask me, but anyway.

[@jameswhite3415]

+S3Dx Compilations It caused me to stop watching GOT and not watch the prequels, which is pretty bad since I watched GOT from the beginning/used to be my favorite show

[@gxh4339]

Nije Bitno kill D&D ! Lol

[@RenanRodrigues-yj5tz]

Season 1: winter is coming! Season 2: winter is coming! Season 3: winter is coming! Season 4: winter is coming! Season 5: winter is coming! Season 6: winter is coming! Season 7: winter is coming! Season 8: winter is... boring?

[@bernardosales1044]

7 seasons: Winter is coming! Season 8: And there it goes!

[@gilbertarenas1010]

Season 8: winter dropped by!

[@felynecomrade]

OkaythatwasWinterIguesshopeyouenjoyeditbye

[@jimp9742]

*Season 8: winter has... been and gone... wait what?... yer! you missed it... hold the phone what happened... not sure, it all happened so fast... so your telling me we've been building up for 7 seasons and the two main plots which have been built up for the past 10 years ended within 3 episodes?... yer.... wow

[@thisfingofours]

Season 8: Global Warming.

[@ssj2bvegeta621]

"Could've gone to 11,12,13 seasons" Damn 🙄😔

[@LAVATORR]

Yeah I'm sure the actors would have zero problem with another half-decade on the same project.

[@ayandak47]

@@LAVATORR its really could have been legendary if all were on board, but they took the money they were given and exposure and left. Thing is, something feels off when they can't see or are to bored with this guys lore... it really shouldn't be hard for people to want to keep going when there's more than enough material. I mean this thing would have replaced bold and the beautiful and other soaps that go on for 20 seasons... sure it may not have hit 20 but it would have raised a storytelling standrard. It's a shame.

[@i335]

LAVATORR the top actors got paid $500,000 per episode in s8....that would have gone up had they continued.....im sure they wouldn’t mind

[@Davej82]

Yes, it could have. If GRRM would finished the books, as he promissed... It was strange enough to continue for another three seasons without books (the dialogs came downhill of course because of it.)

[@daroaminggnome]

@@Davej82 This criticism would only apply if they were faithfully adapting the books and not cutting content like madmen. Fact is they could of easily gotten another 3 seasons of 10 episodes on the books that are already out if they didn't start skipping shit in order to finish it sooner.

[@brainharrismosoke5292]

D&D: we're ending the show. George: what? No. Think about the fans. D&D: ThEy DoNt GeT tO cHoOsE

[@Lostgirl47]

King Brainaldo HAHAHA noice 😉

[@csharp57]

They are correct. We don't get to force the director and actors to work

[@duke_gaming5447]

Man Who says the word must swing the sword..

[@jonavuka]

D&D: yea we kinda forgot about the fans

[@leepreston1337]

At least they actually finished the project. It's been 10 years since the latest book has been published.

[@sabtuxahad]

I would sell my kidney to watch 13 seasons.

[@Eisenbison]

I would sell a kidney, half my liver, and one of my nuts to go to the parallel universe that has 13 seasons that were as good as the first 4.

[@elijahvalongo9528]

Id pile em up with you

[@skteam-z6n]

Who wouldn't

[@The.Nasty.]

“sell” so you want kidney money AND 13 seasons... I see how it is bro..

[@tdsetffr7350]

Delfox unless if it was written by d&d

[@Tarkus-Ivalice-dweller]

Imagine if they adapted LoTR and just after the fellowship is formed they inmediately get to mordor in ten minutes and the movie ends.

[@okaravan]

But before it ends, Frodo goes mad and burns all of the hobbits in Shire in several seconds using superpower he accidentally obtained from The Ring. Seeing this, Sam kills Frodo while hugging and kissing him and telling him he is his Master. Meanwhile Treebeard is democratically elected to be the new King of Middle-Earth, because he has the most interesting story.

[@silberiax6692]

@@okaravan 😂😂😂

[@newspaper9949]

@@okaravan brilliant😂

[@dysmissme7343]

@@okaravan Well- damn this was flawless

[@pigifi]

@@okaravan That is an insult to Treebeard. He actually done stuff! Just ask Saruman.

[@accepthisname]

"We could have gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons" this makes me sad because now we will forever be left with a rushed ending.

[@bluerisk]

And the problem was not HBO...D&D only wanted one 7th season, and HBO made then at least two shorter ones...and this was already rushed crap. Teleport Euron with quantum torpedo bolts.

[@gustavolealgomes5448]

A fucking shit rushed ending

[@21pilotstillidie58]

If it went on for 13 seasons your be complaining that they should've ended it earlier

[@James-pt2vk]

@@21pilotstillidie58 No we really wouldnt. Dethroning cersi should of been a season. Danaerys decent in madness after the aftermath of taking the throne and all she had lost to do so should of been its own season. The long night should of been the last season with the aftermath and wrap up as the last 2-3 episodes

[@JJJaakeeEe]

you guys really cant expect all the writers and actors to dedicate even more years to this one project. d&d said they wanted to only do 7 seasons for a reason. like it or not but they’re actually human people that dont want to be tied down to one project

[@BumLuck]

ASoIaF fans: Oh boy I can't wait for The Winds of Winter GRRM: I'm working on six TV shows

[@thellama3239]

Fucking kill me now

[@mloi]

Way much more money. I get it

[@FitzKeepsItSimple]

That’s why I’m not even that mad about D&D’s writing. They got into this thinking that the books would be done by the time they got to the end and wouldn’t have to unravel GRRM’s plot, which apparently GRRM can’t even do. The pacing, though, is all on them.

[@ladistar]

Michael Campbell wrong.

[@nikap6461]

Maybe he will collect all money from these TV shows to buy the elixir of immortality, so this way he can finish the last two books, how do you know

[@sammulhall6940]

George:how you doing Reporter:WHY IS GAME OF THRONES ENDING

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

George: I've been asking the same question for years.

[@boomstick935]

Rude as fuck

[@5amohtaerg60]

How is that rude..it‘s just another way to say “ I'm mad af ”

[@JuanBahiaBlanca]

we all are that reporter... you don't have the chance of your life to interview Martin and ask him about the wheater

[@chrisdelzell8467]

@@JuanBahiaBlanca I tried. He just said Winter was coming.

[@kerinegrych4283]

Imagine if when all things were said and done and Dan and David were celebrating and the doors shut behind them and the rains of castamere start playing and a man comes up to them and says, “George sends his regards.”

[@victoriacaine7040]

Lmaooo!

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Good comment💬

[@akshita.m]

"George and the fandom send their regards"**

[@ericstaples7220]

Bro, that's psychotic.

[@RahulSharma0610]

Knife through the heart.

[@chazzzztastic]

That’s so frustrating to hear there could have been so many more seasons 😒😔

[@gibster9624]

That the author of the books wanted more seasons.

[@Wendy17719]

I think many of the main actors may have wanted to do something else. 10 years is a long time to be affiliated with 1 project.

[@gibster9624]

@@Wendy17719 I don't think the actors had an issue. Many of them worked on other projects while doing game of thrones. Almost all the main characters did at least one movie

[@invisibleking726]

I mean, i had heard that most of the characters had loved their roles. At least until the last few seasons. (season 8 specifically making some say they would not want to work on the project again.)

[@JamboLinnman]

Invisible King You heard this directly from a good source or it’s available to view in online interviews?

[@bromixsr]

George is ever the diplomat. His idea of "throwing shade' is probably telling you that your shirt has a stain on it....but don't worry because it is hard to see in this light.

[@richardlloyd2589]

Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai I don’t know if you last sentence was deliberate.....but kudos.

[@kaiser4883]

​@@richardlloyd2589 wtf You talking bout are You an idiot? How is a cat azor ahai? Clearly its Hot pie the Prince that was promise

[@bryguy1502]

kaiser Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai is just the original commenter’s username. It’s a joke theory made by fans of the books. Relax.

[@kaiser4883]

@@bryguy1502 r/woosh

[@richardlloyd2589]

Bryguy150 Thank you. 😉

[@jocko774]

season 8: night king war season 9: the mad queen season 10: the wrap up Dropped a huge ball D&D....

[@MayhemTyphone]

You wouldn't need an entire season to wrap it all up though. Maybe 1-3 episodes.

[@weeabooshunter4759]

fucking star wars man

[@MankindDiary]

@@MayhemTyphone I think it would be nice to end season 9 with Daenerys ascending on a throne and season 10 (maybe consisting of 5-6 episodes) would show us her way of rulership as a ruthless, but effective and in fact bringing peace and obedience due to her cruelty. It would be great bitter-sweet ending, because we would see that she can build a better world but we would still back up killing her due to the methods she choose.

[@plackiplicki3531]

Allstillwell I’d say The Mad Queen arc should have come before the Long Night. That Long Night was supposed to have wiped most of Daenerys armies and would have in fact slaughtered most of Westeros even if it was won by the living, it’s only by a plot stretch that D&D kept this many unsullied/Dothrakis alive.

[@juvenileygo]

Anybody knows about the artists contract? Mybe the contract only says 7 seasons, and they couldnt pay them as ALL of them became popular, so they could only pay for one more season

[@tosksquad]

George: “How are you doing?” Interviewer: “WHY IS IT ENDING!!!???!!”

[@acousticnirvana94]

Monterey Crusaders lmao

[@char4980]

LMAOOO

[@GibsonLovesGuap]

Seems like D&D had no motivation to finish this with pride

[@orome9793]

I don't know why anyone would hire D&D after this shit they pulled.

[@kl3nd4thu]

@@orome9793 I am almost cringing what D&D is going to do with that Star Wars trilogy deal they have now.

[@riojackson8492]

This season is too much rushed man... Too much

[@ragedrephaim5570]

They wanted to ruin it on purpose bc it wasn't pc enough

[@TiberianFiend]

₪&₪'s only motivation was money.

[@Spencer-op5fr]

There was so much story left to tell. It should've been 10 seasons MINIMUM with every season being 10 episodes. The final 4 episodes of the show could've been expanded into 3 seasons alone.

[@henrique-3d]

it is true but not with these 2 dogshit 60iq dumb writers

[@henrique-3d]

"you want a good girl but you need a bad pussy"

[@skachor]

HBO really should've realized how much milking this cow had left

[@BuildingBandits]

True dat

[@MaddRezz]

Sure that's a fair complaint, but then you have a bunch of dummies who didn't want Dany to become a "Mad Queen" like fuck off for a second

[@janina_7713]

*I HATE DAVID AND DAN EVEN MORE AFTER THIS VIDEO* *THEY BASICALLY PUT 5 SEASONS INTO 6 EPISODES????*

[@JohnCortelli]

No he means over time they'd been cutting so much that the cut material from the first 6 seasons could have been 12 seasons alone

[@kornisoni6625]

@@JohnCortelli really, they started messing up since season 5, they completely started deviating and cutting random things in that season. Before that, all they did was some minor cuts which weren't important. Then, they completely messed up S5. S6 instead, at least for me, was one of the most entertaining, even if it started to be pedictable. What i wanted to say is that, if they kept listening to GRRM, seasons 5-8 (33 episodes) could have been seasons 5-13 (90 episodes). They cut 2/3 of the source material GRRM gave them and completely rushed making it a mess.

[@JohnCortelli]

@@kornisoni6625 Isn't there still a zombie Catelyn Stark going around in the books?

[@nokturnallex2160]

They skipped over so much from the books even in the earlier seasons. When did the teleporting character's start? Because once it started it just kept getting crazier.

[@liselotte_41]

@@JohnCortelli yes, she's Lady Stoneheart now.

[@t3productions591]

NOT TO MENTION THEY RUSHED TO DO STAR WARS, WHICH THEY GOT DROPPED FROM DUE TO THE SHIT QUALITY OF SEASON 8. HOLY CHRIST

[@meissysabardiah621]

Greed

[@ThaBeatConductor]

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. They forgot that.

[@Kat-gp6gj]

Did it get dropped specifically because of season 8?

[@ThaBeatConductor]

@@Kat-gp6gj Yes.

[@Lord_Numpty]

There is yet justice in this world.

[@kingrozay5391]

should have found writers that would continue the series with passion

[@ineedhoez]

It is not like it is that hard. There's tons of FanFiction on the internet. You're a wannabe writers who create better stories and their two-minute KZbin videos.

[@kingrozay5391]

ineedhoez i’m just saying, i’m sure there would have been a lot of writers out there who could have kept it going like george wanted. should have just passed on the torch

[@Irrelevant402]

I know right? I mean they should be just as passionate as George R.R. Martin with Winds of Winter who has been writing...it...for...eight years...Oh wait.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

@@kingrozay5391 he is agreeing to you, but just writes like a moron

[@misspopcoin2204]

There's been fanfiction I've read, that if it was put in his books, & he said that he wrote it, I'd believe him. There are some fanfiction writers out there who are perfectly capable of doing his work justice.

[@UltraTempo_]

season 8: Night King season 9: Cersei (season10: daenerys) so we would have a smooth 10 seasons series with enough time to answer all the questions we had....

[@bakedzac3630]

Season length isn’t even the big thing. Danaerys loved the downtrodden, fought for what was right. And instead of that gentle heart, she turned crazy & massacred people... whats the message there??? Youre beholden to what your family is? Good fuckin grief, jorah is fucking rolling in his grave wishing he died of the stoneskin.

[@meshal7261]

tbh to change Dany character that was a hero and helped the people against the dead army It shouls have more than one season because we know now she is going to be THE DEVIL so yeah that will take a lot of time to make her like this .. to destroy her heroic action and make her mad and insane then the final thing to become the most evil character of entire story

[@MrJH101]

I would have structured it a bit different Season 8: Cersei Season 9: Night King Season 10: Daenerys

[@chilepeulla]

Meshal it would have been a great twist if it was done correctly. Look how long they took to turn Walter White into Heisenberg, that’s how you develop a character

[@kennyPAGC]

Season 6 and 7 needed fixing too. The shit started to come there. Coincidentally seasons corresponding to books that weren't (and haven't been) published yet. How surprising...

[@fatboyRAY24]

What do we say to good writing? D&D: “Not Today.”

[@swanmcswan]

What do we say to original jokes? ............... you get the point......

[@fatboyRAY24]

I love you too

[@sonarbuge7958]

fatboyRAY24 If I had a penny for every time I’ve seen this comment I’d have 200 penny’s

[@geovee4726]

Maybe that's the problem. STUPID AUDIENCE. Instead of being really pissed of we are stealing each other s comments to get likes

[@geovee4726]

" not in the last 2 years" to be more precise

[@usul573]

Even if seasons 7 and 8 were the end, if they were 11 episodes long, well paced, and thoughtful with the character arcs, it could have been so much better.

[@TheBooklyBreakdown]

What is that pfp?

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Of course, rushed development IS the main issue, not the end result.

[@darthslackus499]

D&D are great at adapting books to TV. When there are no books left, not so great...

[@TheBeastr]

Well David B was the writer and screenwriter of X-Men Origins: Wolverine. So how we are not surprised he can't write a good story. Look at what he did to DEADPOOL!

[@swanmcswan]

Do you know any examples of book to TV adaptations that were finished before source material written, and were well received?

[@MaxArch]

Actually because the books havent finish. D&D kind of having a tough job on concluded the ending for GOT, so Martin just give them a green to choose their own creative ending

[@darthslackus499]

@@TheBeastr That's the dude that neutered Deadpool?! That says a lot! No talent SoB!

[@darkrood]

Jordon R I am still appalled by a simple rivalry with Sabertooth get mutated into that monstrosity of story.

[@Satans.solders]

Easily could have been 13 seasons so much good material left.

[@AJustin2Change]

Easy for who exactly? Did this show seem like an easy thing to make to you? Was it easy on all the actors and crew?

[@Satans.solders]

@@AJustin2Change grrm made that comment

[@barthoekstra6760]

13 seasons why

[@alphagamer9505]

@@AJustin2Change like they would complain about the money

[@AJustin2Change]

@@alphagamer9505 Maybe after all those seasons they already have enough money to not have to take a job just for the money. Not everyone is as broke and desperate as you.

[@0irfan01]

Legends says Drogon is still looking for the writers 😂

[@Kaliosthesecond]

Who says?

[@yafriendceko]

@@Kaliosthesecond legend do

[@cecilevans9247]

Lagend?

[@Fyqo]

shaikh irfan can you define the word “Lagend” it is my first time hearing the word.

[@Jude74]

Rumor has it that Drogon actually quit the show early after reading the script. They had to use footage from previous seasons for his last scene.

[@oualidtrabelsi5784]

it's refreshing to see someone who can create an entire universe and still maintain a certain professional distance. He's not obsessed with it and he doesn't have so-called tunnel vision. He is able to separate the business from his passion and he recognizes that he is working with professional actors, producers and so on. He leaves emotional attachment and narrow-mindedness to the fans. He remains businesslike and professional. I respect that very much.

[@user-st8ho9zl1k]

There was so much potential after season 6 but they decided to squish everything into 13 episodes instead of 40-70 more episodes like George wanted.

[@blackjack8556]

@Jacob Wood there was enough plot for 3 more seasons. There was a whole season of Ramsey raping peopl but 1 episode of NK death. Wow someone kill me

[@user-st8ho9zl1k]

dodo2208 No man those last 2 episodes were legendary

[@Nash9r]

Nah, downfall began after season 4.

[@ericstaples7220]

They were making up the show themselves past season 5, because GRRM stopped writing the books. Nothing got squished into the last seasons. GRRM never wrote anything that happened in the last 3 seasons.

[@ChristianAuditore14]

Lmao it was fanfic since season 5 and you muppets defending the show is the reason it got so bad

[@JIDcrit]

Season 8: war with night king Season 9: Cersei's ending/ beginning to mad queen Season 10: mad queen/ end of show

[@Chinstrap-w7m]

I agree it could be better, but I don't think eith the night king it would last so long, or they win at winterfell battle or they would all die the same a the castle of that lord boy

[@shadwxh]

@@Chinstrap-w7m Unless the show didn't rushed and forgot about other locations in the North. Winterfell it's a major capital but there are 50+ more places to go. You could even bring the fight to King's Landing and get an even better fight with a lot of main characters dying.

[@berzerkbankie1342]

@@shadwxh most of the north was at winterfell because that is where the NK was heading because of Bran

[@SpliffyHusk]

I’d rather have the night king be the end, just seems fitting, could’ve made things feel like you weren’t going to see a lot of your characters at the end

[@kingoftheshill347]

sooo you’re saying we can do it in 6 episodes?

[@danthemanhd8443]

Should’ve gone Season 8: Long Night Season 9: The Last War Season 10: Jon vs. Danyres and a better ending

[@joshjohnson2753]

@Antenna2heaven I honestly thought it was going to last all of this season, with the final episode being a triumphant win for the living , but the loses would have been unimaginable. That would have had a better payoff for the long night that they mentioned instead of a single battle where a assassin jumps out of literally nowhere to butcher 8 years of building up the long night

[@Fanged.Fiend.Reactor]

I think the Long Night should come after the last war

[@TheCherryPandy]

Why, Just WHY did I read your comment? Now I want this! 😭

[@GIGANTUSful]

Long Night should be the final season.

[@ffsfilm]

No, noo opposite... first Daenerys and Westerosi politic problems.. than the matter of life and death,.. with this mindset you are not far from D and D thinking.

[@Jrdn357]

Season 1: winter is coming! Season 2: winter is coming! Season 3: winter is coming! Season 4: winter is coming! Season 5: winter is coming! Season 6: winter is coming! Season 7: winter is here! Season 8: winter lasts 12 hours....

[@MrSpartanspud]

I think technically speaking it lasted for around four.

[@clemsch90]

Scandinavia has a longer night than got had.

[@vaibhavgore165]

​@clemsch90 😂😂

[@MrSpeedyAce]

"There was plenty of material" Damn it D&D!!!

[@sujimayne]

You think actors would stick around for 15+ years? And wouldn't age? You think D&D and the actors were to dedicate their whole life and career to this single project? Stop being childish, writers and actors are people and like to have lives and working so many years on a single project is very demanding. Yeah, it was rushed and may have ended too early, but expecting 10 seasons is just unreal.

[@MrSpeedyAce]

SujiMayne Game of Thrones is a one-in-a-lifetime show. Definitely worth a major part of someone's career.

[@ScientificBeatz]

@@sujimayne your right. All fans have to do is read the books for the non rushed, good writing material they feel they didnt get.

[@ScientificBeatz]

@@taintlessproductions maybe so

[@ookam9685]

SujiMayne who said another 15+ years?? he just said 10 seasons thats only like 2-3 years more, it ain't about the actors trust me they LOVE their roles it's just D&D being ignorant

[@ashiljohn]

GoT Fans: "What do we say to character arcs?" D&D: "Not today!"

[@mattteomatei3610]

Jaime's and Daenerys' character arcs wemt exactly how they were supposed to. You're just bseing salty

[@kathynguyen608]

@@mattteomatei3610 Just executed in one season after it took 7 to get them there !

[@bobloerakker7010]

Haha nice

[@richardswartz8069]

LOL at the joke, but I don't agree.

[@mattteomatei3610]

@@kathynguyen608 Executed what in 1 season? It was an entire journey. Watch the scenes in all the seasons: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqGmoJZ4oNOkjas

[@technoGenius333]

I said 10 seasons They said 7 seasons They won, hehe No they didin't, they will be always remembered as the guys, who fucked up one of the greatest TV series ever

[@xyincognito]

They are the ones who made it possible to begin with! Without them, there wouldn't be the greatest TV series ever!

[@MrAnothis]

They lost, and we fans all lost even more.

[@tommywong3147]

Cant they just put more episode each year? Just shoot faster. We don't need huge amount of crazy CGI just a well written plot is more than enough.

[@meep1755]

Xy that’s not rly true.. the best seasons they used George’s material, they ones they wrote were shit.

[@MrAnothis]

@@xyincognito If you dominate a boxing match, you're really crushing your opponent, but at the last second you get knocked out, it might have been a beautiful match, but you still lost.

[@aphroditebenabese450]

George R.R. Martin be like:"I love my cast! I hate my screenwriters!"all in one breath.

[@robert04872]

This Season is dark and full of errors.

[@NPC-vg8kx]

Grey Worm is loyal to the lords and ladies of Westeros and doesn't just kill the "Queen Slayer"! Genius!

[@ikhy1990]

So dark you barely see anything

[@k45207]

Boom! Good stuff sir

[@LightinGbKK]

was

[@lightjosi9752]

best season evah

[@InvisibleMan95]

The Audience remembers. The Fans will never forget.

[@7jc1rr9]

@johan alejandro nah, they won't. It's been 10 years, the show had the highest hype in television and we had to pay/pirate to see it crash and burn in the last seasons. The showrunners will find haters even in their funeral.

[@9aliraf]

Hail king turnip!!!!

[@skullhunter748]

Valar morghulis

[@Gyork_]

@johan alejandro Oh man tv and movie fans never forget or to be more precise, they never get over it, it's a lifetime of frustation for them.

[@F4llower22]

Im giving 6 mounths for those fans or to the next Got's show. People has short member and time heal up all wounds.

[@dukes1993724]

5 Prequels in development? Jesus George just finish the original series first my god

[@tygerchase9705]

He's not the one working on it, though some of the will likely be based off stuff like Duncan & egg, world of ice and fire as well fire and blood.

[@albertjohnston1026]

They did finish it, didn't you see? It came to a nice, well thought through, satisfying (but not too satisfying) ending. And no one complained about it at all.

[@Daseinn]

@@albertjohnston1026 the books, a winds of winter and a dream of spring

[@RushikeshDhekare1989]

exactly man. The original books have been pending too long now. I don't think we'll ever get to see the last novel.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

@@tygerchase9705 I really do want to read more on Ser Duncan and Egg though

[@veemiyagimusic3892]

I honestly believe Kit would play Jon for the rest of his life if he could

[@arturravenbite1693]

The interview where he said season 8 was disappointing before it dropped shows how much he enjoyed the role and took it seriously. You can hear the sadness in his voice.

[@MrSpartanspud]

The cast were clearly unhappy with it. I don't understand why they didn't do anything. Absolutely none of them were happy.

[@raonair]

@@MrSpartanspud what could they do? Not work?

[@wannabeserpento99]

Hell no, Kit became an alcoholic and went to rehab because the show gave him so much stress.

[@bobsnob3073]

@@wannabeserpento99 Hes an actor. All they know is alcohol, heroin, and stress

[@than217]

To be fair though he's been saying he wanted 13 seasons since before it began.

[@arranharvey6907]

Then maybe he should have given them some fucking source material to work with. The deal was for the two idiots to adapt a show based on the books. He hasn't written anything related to 'a song of ice and fire' since 2011. Yeah D & D ruined it but they obviously didn't have a clue what they were doing and were too arrogant to admit it and GRRM is partially to blame for that. Perhaps he should stop working on the other 20 random projects.

[@armoda1057]

Charlamine Intervention yeah he definitely should have had Winds of Winter out by now, especially since he’s been doing so much other stuff other than writing it. But there’s a lot of book material, especially from books 4 and 5, that D&D cut out, cut short, or completely morphed into something else. They really needed to have fAegon, and Euron’s character from the books, not the stupid simple-minded horny pirate on the show.

[@ReptarTheUgly]

Charlamine Intervention nooooo. Shut up. Those first five books have enough material on their own to have gone to atleast 15 seasons. That’s how much shit is in the books.

[@TheRetardedbackpack]

He fucked up, should have been in the deal with hbo. 13 seasons or bust.

[@mybawzarerichie]

@@arranharvey6907 Shows how little you know, There was at least a season and a half, possibly even two seasons left of book material they could of had.

[@deckard3755]

Only thing worse than the season 8 ending is knowing it could have kept going... By a lot.

[@BeyondSoul1.]

Well,if it kept going it would've been great,more to expand on.

[@zSwift42]

The ending was pretty good imo. The Mad Queen plottwist was pure bullshit

[@BeyondSoul1.]

@@jeccalou9894 well I mean ....d&d suck ...

[@mercurexi]

Yeah it would have been super great to have Maisie Williams reach 40 before they finished the show, she would have been a great teen Arya huh? .... It has to end at some point... That's it. Read the books if that moron ever writes the last ones, busy as he is, shitting all over people he left with 4 hand-written notes to end the show. He is more the problem here than the show runners.

[@zukokurama]

Jay Luc ur an idiot

[@jayfaisa6016]

Why didn’t D&D just give the show to other people then if they didn’t want to go to 13 Seasons? Absolutely ridiculous.

[@Mk-po3ed]

JayPal Animation yeah why everyone said ok to them even hbo wanted 10 more seasons

[@SL-xj6kr]

Ego

[@dillonpolok3198]

@@SL-xj6kr Yup Star Wars will make more money anyway so they scrapped it pretty much.

[@Mansare94]

Because they're egotists.

[@Rickardo22li]

Because someone else that isn't a retarded with any experience writing and directing would do much better than them. Either way they just jumped to their graves

[@RivaRiva222]

The Night King had one of the biggest build ups for a TV show; from literally a myth to a world ending apocalypse. Ended. By Arya. In a 10 second stab. To then entirely ruin Varys character - alongside rush Danerys into becoming a mad queen which didn't seem right at all. Jon Snow banished to the Nights Watch? This had potential to be one of the best TV series of all time - it literally earnt that title from all the build ups from Season 6/7 to then be thrown down the drain. Its one of the worst disappointments I've had watching a show; the writing was sloppy and rushing it how it was is the stupidest decision.

[@shineinouzen7412]

Nah Season 7 was bad too. Not as bad as 8 but …

[@scorpiusbalthazar4327]

Dude, they built up the whole idea of her going insane the entire time. Her becoming a Mad Queen was not out of left field.

[@AverageAlien]

Season 6 and 7 were already suffering from poor writing, you should've seen the signs. I knew season 8 would flop two years prior

[@AverageAlien]

@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 it was poorly executed

[@scorpiusbalthazar4327]

@@AverageAlien Perhaps but it was not out of left field. I saw it coming, every time she had to lay down some serious punishment, her initial idea was considered brutal and they convince her to do something else. That happens 3-5 times before she kills the Tarly's where she did not back off her initial brutal response. That was season 7. Then the death of Missandei(sp?) was the straw that broke the camels back.

[@marctade4428]

can't wait for South Park to remake this last season

[@banfasso3109]

Marc Tade Holy Fuck that’s the best comment I’ve seen this month. And it reminded me that at least we’ll have a HESHE out of this one haha

[@brothertim1322]

Funny part is they could do all 6 episodes condensed down to 30 minutes and it would probably still make more sense

[@fpkblast8465]

North Park

[@Finlandpro1]

Havent watched south park in years, but did they make episodes of the previous seasons?

[@luiscalderon7383]

Princess Kenny will die 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@SeaShellsSeaShells89]

You hear that? We could have had many more seasons!! 😡

[@Irohbro]

yea they even skipped all of book 4 and half of book 5

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

Yep, its all on D&D. HBO execs were happy to throw in budget for more seasons seeing that the show is a cash cow...

[@smith47000]

😭😭😭

[@shadow9570]

Then George should write another book ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@harveyray5415]

You don’t get it all the actors want life’s aswell uno it isn’t a fucking fantasy it’s real life they don’t want to act on one role there whole life

[@flygirl1221]

They should have replaced D&D with someone who actually wanted to do the show properly.

[@pj199512]

I mean Martin chose them because they were the only ones who actually read the book and wanted to do it properly. Martin declined offers from many other networks because he hated their interpretation of what the show is

[@Marco-lr6yd]

Actors want to do other things. They’ve been playing the same character since 10 years, obvsly they want to change their careers

[@Calilou52]

@@Marco-lr6yd true, but when youre getting over a million an episode, i think taking the job for a few more years isnt too bad of a deal.

[@eddy4688]

@@Marco-lr6yd It's not obvious the actors wanted to change their careers at all, I'm sure many of them would've carried on for years more.

[@fuserman3457]

@@Marco-lr6yd some of them have said they wanted to keep going to do it justice.

[@pie.x]

"We could've gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons, but I guess they wanted a life." We've been robbed.

[@Turambar1337]

"They won." Well, it seems like everyone lost to me: - The GoT fans lost, since we've all seen the show being killed, several times, with very strange writing - D&D lost, since now, not even Star Wars fans want them. In fact, I don't think anyone wants them for anything, really.

[@ancaira3595]

Starwars fans never wanted Kathleen at the helm, or Rose Teeko, or current US politics in the best movie franchise of all time, making the films instantly dated in 5-10 years time but it happened. This is about the bottom line, not the fans.

[@dawoodkarim1227]

D&D are hated by the people, but clearly they don't give a fuck about that so... If it doesn't effect them I'd say they won yeah

[@Adam-xg1ch]

Michael Bay is one of the biggest jokes in Hollywood and all of his movies make a shit ton of money. My guess is that D&D will be just fine.

[@kitpalmer1583]

@@ancaira3595 current politics has always inspired Star Wars, genius

[@JD-mz1rl]

I'd like to see D&D produce an episode where they play themselves, and meet a gruesome death like the characters on GoT.

[@Saxinful]

Seasons 7/8 definitely felt like 4 seasons crammed into two

[@Bobby.B619]

Saxinful crammed into 1

[@Vincisomething]

The plot, especially Dany's, felt like they went, "oh shit, we still need to add that." Especially who they chose for king felt so rushed and they just went, "I guess"

[@akshayp4777]

they had a total of 13 episodes man. It could've worked as a single season tbh

[@ring7234]

Season 7 was pointless, they spent the whole second half of the season trying to get cerise’s help for the white walkers but we all know how that turned out

[@drzitbag06]

yes that's reason people don't like the ending. there is no progression to the ending.

[@TheGreatGodPan]

HBO: "We can give you ten seasons if you want" D&D: "No thanks, we've got this covered, 6 episodes are all we need" *After writing 2/3 of the season* D&D: "Damn, we need to kill some characters fast so we can end this"

[@Alic4444]

This is definitely canon.

[@viktoroo]

I was actually surprised when they managed to close some character arcs without killing them

[@LeuanLegoev]

Episode 5... dragon.setagility 100000 dragon.setsrength 100000 dragon.setluck 100000 Toggle God Mode

[@MrZxcvbnm22]

They could have said: "look, we have other projects, if you want 10 seasons you will have to sign other writers" I'm sure that there are hundreds of more talented writers who could continue with the series with pride. I still think that D&D are good writers, they wrote some of the best episodes in the history of TV, but they lost interest in the most important season and It would have been two times better if the season were 13 episodes... 6 episodes dealing with the Night King and 7 dealing with the political mess of westeros. It's a shame 😔

[@98loud]

Honestly, the more I watch GRRM the more I love the man, you can just tell how much he loves GoT, and loves the people who helped bring it to life, esp the cast. It really must be one of the best feelings there can be, to see your creation be brought to life and people love it

[@TheReaLcatniP]

If he really cared he'd finish the story, though. He cashed out. "See you suckers ! I'm off to play with my train".

[@gagaqgij]

I rather wait 5 years for a new season with book adaptation than the shitty work D&D did.

[@sujimayne]

The problem is that actors age and you expect all of them to stick around for 13+ years? And D&D probably also want to get on other project and have a life, like GRRM said himself.

[@stephendelong5656]

Exactly. Do a proper job and not half ass it because you want out of work early.

[@germanvisitor2]

@@sujimayne They could have switched actors every season or every other season. That would have been confusing but... 1. they had to switch some actors anyway and so there was some confusion already. 2. more actors would have gotten the GoT spotlight for their career. 3. The aging would be less of a problem. Well by the time the books come to an end Arya might still be younger than Maisie was in the first episode of season one.

[@go_rilla262]

Did you like the early seasons? Do you know the difference between the early seasons and later seasons? Here's a hint, it's not D&D. They had books to go with then but not now. Who writes the books and failed to provide the last rwo? Here's another hint, also not D&D. Who craped out two books that weren't the ending to ASOIAF? Last Hint, once again not D&D

[@gagaqgij]

@@go_rilla262 That is why I said that I rather wait till the books are out so that they could adapt instead of doing the writing themselves

[@sk8wolvosk8]

If the guy who knows how this all plays out is telling you that you need 10 seasons, then you need 10 seasons. Sure enough trying to cram all that plot into 2 (not even full) seasons felt disjointed and rushed compared to the pacing of the previous seasons. Who'd have guessed that would happen ey?

[@Jorie921]

He doesn't even know how it all plays out lol. He never finished the books. He did supposedly gives them his ideas of where he wanted it to go and how he was thinking of ending it but he's criticised all of their decisions and while I'm not a fan of how they did it at all(very lazy and rushed), he has no one to blame but himself for not writing the books.

[@dacornholio123]

Dumb & dumber rushed the show into an early grave because they want that sweet Star Wars money

[@barkley8285]

wubba lubba dub dub moral of the story is always greed for money

[@RockSmithStudio]

It's sad that I don't care for Star Wars anymore. What a dark time...

[@allegedlyallegedly3183]

Well Fuck them.... With a Looong Dick

[@limits7082]

GimmeeSomeMo Disney ruined Star Wars

[@SoleNero21]

@@limits7082 but now dumb&dumber will fuck it bloody without mercy

[@kmartinino1158]

GRRM: Here is Nnedi. She wrote an amazing book.... Nnedi: hi... Reporter: *ignores her and kept asking about GOT... Nnedi: *awkwardly walks away.... Dude.. Srsly? I know GRRM is a big deal. But one "oh really? Looking forward to it!" doesn't hurt... I now just really wish Nnedi became a big deal and ignores this guy back in the future

[@Dude-dx5ns]

She's already a big deal in her country here, Nigeria

[@Wattsyy]

I felt really bad for her, George gave a her a really good intro but the reporter just wasn't interested at all. What a jerk

[@Herr.P]

Many writers dont even get that. So shes kind of lucky.

[@njux1871]

Well, at least he made me and many others buy her stuff.

[@willisix2554]

@@Dude-dx5ns I'm glad to hear that some Caucasians can be really rude and dismissive

[@faruokag7306]

George R.R. Martin: I killed main characters. D&D: Hold our Starbucks (Killed the entire show)

[@es279]

Hold our waterbottles*

[@Riddimsofcreation]

Ebrahim Eshaiyan *babybottles

[@fade9004]

@@Riddimsofcreation *soybottles

[@helliott2033]

Bottles.

[@kinggete]

*hold our creativity and talent

[@PhilipMller]

He doesn't really throw shade. He's pretty chill about it. As usual he makes some good points though.

[@MartialArtzz]

He is a man of genuinely good character it seems to me.

[@menotyu9576]

In a nice way he does. Basically points out that if you didnt like the pacing and trajectory, talk to D&D

[@sdfsdfs13]

HBO offered D&D more seasons, but they refused it, they are now "too good" for TV, they wanted to get that Start Wars deal, and rushed the end of GOT.

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

Oooo Star Wars! Shiny! Let's screw the most successful and epic TV show of all times!

[@aylix2137]

With any luck Star Wars will be the steaming pile of ashes it’s becoming by the time they get there

[@lokimultiverse6829]

They did well , the just had enough , overall it was the best show on tv , stop your crying or I’ll send tissues , You are no writer so shut your mouth , u probably couldn’t even write a script for a porno , just move on 🤬

[@coledarby665]

Thomas Kellner don’t understand why some people think that if you’re not a writer yourself you cant criticize or have an opinion on a shows writing lol.

[@marcusdyer2104]

Thomas Kellner They did well until the end... It was the best show on tv until the end... Breaking Bad sits on the TV Throne in my eyes Every season of Game Of Thrones has been reliant on the books and it wasn’t until they ran out of source material it showed they can’t write for jack shit

[@xxbigbangxx1]

My man Bobby B getting a shoutout from GRRM even after all that time... Mark Addy was truly a perfect casting

[@Strellock]

There we have it, there was no pressure to end the show, no budget cuts, no outside medling, no nothing. GOT could have been ended properly. RIP.

[@saynomas2362]

Could be the actors wanted to move on too though a lot of them are getting parts in movies now, I think everyone was ready to move on except for the network and the author

[@ancaira3595]

@@saynomas2362 The actors were making hundreds of thousands and the top 6 actors over a million each per episode. They would also star in movies, like Kitt, Masie, emilia etc while continuing game of thrones. Each season had at least $60 mill+, an established fanbase since it was the most popular show on earth and room to grow story wise, alot of writing material and the whole network behind them since GoT kept HBO in the streaming business while now, GoT was rushed by DnD because they got bored, HBO is facing millions of cancellations, westworld failed as a franchise and the actors are all out of work. This is all on the show runners.

[@Strellock]

@@saynomas2362 Please..., most of the actors will never work on a show of this magnitude or for the money they got on GOT; this was the role of their lives for the majority of them; It was the two assholes and their star wars bs, not the actors.

[@pixelcount350]

@@ancaira3595 WestWorld is getting a third season though...

[@Adam-xg1ch]

ya no pressure at all other than trying to finish up the most popular television series of all time without the source material because George wrote himself into a bind and doesn't even know how to finish the series himself. funny enough they are moving from one toxic fanbase to another one in Star Wars.

[@tom9300]

I was pretty disapointed we didnt get a bran flashback of rhaegar and roberts battle on the trident.

[@smokeythagamer8521]

Thats most likely going to be one of the prequels, a lot of people want to see Roberts rebellion, and George did say one of the prequels will take place before the events of GOT

[@kkyyee]

@@smokeythagamer8521 I think they confirmed that won't be in any of the prequels. From what we know, one is set 100 years before and another 5,000 years.

[@ACook94]

The 100 year one will be Dunk and Egg, the 5000 year with be the long night

[@osmosis6603]

Smokey 316 ‘One of the PREQUELS will take place before the events of GOT’. Read that again please.

[@tom9300]

@@smokeythagamer8521 that would be pretty good to have a whole series on roberts rebellion but from what i hear the first spin off is gonna be based on the long night and the white walkers so a roberts rebellion spin off is probably gonna take years to make unless each spin off is only 1 season long.

[@lfgoodvideosfm2885]

So George RR Martin wanted it to go up to 10 seasons but DnD wanted less and made a horrible rushed season finale... that made me more angry to DnD.

[@PoxyBear]

George needs to finish the books but he didn't.

[@abdulkadirali96]

@@PoxyBear Apologize to both Georges

[@PoxyBear]

Hell no! Finish the damn books or shut up!

[@albertjohnston1026]

The higher ups at HBO wanted it to be 10 seasons too. It was on the table, offered to them. Not even a maybe, a definitely. And they turned it down. As GRRM said, it was originally slated for just 7 seasons but they all pushed them into 8.

[@filanime03]

LFgoodVideosFM both D & D got hired to write for Star Wars HBO was willing to spend and pay even asking to do at least 10 episodes this season. D & D turn them down. You can tell by their writing they are tired of the show.

[@zacknewton1064]

“What do we say to the fans who want more books?” George: “Not today.”

[@zlimoon]

I wanted 10 seasons with 10 episodes in each season...60mins per episode.

[@jernie9384]

Or just 10 Seasons with normal length episodes because those were enough for the earlier seasons to tell great stories. Everything but what they gave us essentially.

[@theshizknit]

I mean if shitty General Hospital can run for 30 years why not GOT?

[@sukisyo7]

It's called procrastination.

[@slitebg]

Not if they were the quality of the Season 8 we got

[@seedye]

Season 8 had longer run time than 7.

[@vitolucci636]

0:43 “working on other projects” BRO FINISH THE BOOKS

[@Lolomatikus333]

If he gives us a prequel with the quality of the first 4 GoT seasons i dont care when he finish the books lmao. So lets hope

[@mysecondchannelable]

He owes no one anything

[@Jorie921]

@@mysecondchannelable he started it and he himself is unhappy with the ending so I feel he owes it to his work and reputation to finish the books.

[@Tobosaku]

@@Jorie921 He started it and can take his time finishing it. Hollywood wanted to cash in and did a bad job with the ending so blame the writers and D&D rushing it.

[@mysecondchannelable]

Jorie Thomas If he’s not ready to complete it or the inspiration isn’t there or he just doesn’t feel like writing, he doesn’t have to do it. so just drop it and hope that he’ll complete the books when he wants to complete the books he’s not making an omelette. He is writing a book for fucks sake

[@wolfk3893]

D&D= Plotslayer, Writer without honor, Showbreaker

[@Vario69]

Dan Wiseau and David Fuckoff

[@treehugger2397]

Lol, Love!

[@yuchamita5958]

if you have signed with Star Wars would you keep you Show then?

[@user-ws2tq9fj3r]

Dumb & Dumber

[@NJglorifiedcrew]

@@yuchamita5958 Ummm I would hire another writer who actually knows wtf they're doing instead of putting my ego first. Hard to do for a lot of people in Hollywood obsessed with their own status.

[@natiquinn830]

I love that when he got the opportunity, he shifted the focus away from him and to an underappreciated writer. He just really loves the craft and its artists

[@tucker3601]

Why, WHYYYY did HBO not get someone else to run the show if D and D didn't want to do it anymore?? Surely HBO and George would of had that final call.

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

I think D&D had the ownership to the show as part of their contract with GRRM and with HBO when they pitched in the show. They get to decide when and how it ends.

[@vemonguy686]

Because GRRM never wanted to make his stories into shows unless he found the right people to do it with and do it through to the end. So D&D got locked in from the very beginning. Not Georges fault they gave up to focus more on star wars. Maybe that was the twist for the show?

[@csharp57]

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a great example. Another director could have messed up the enitre show. Just end it and move on

[@stormrage3708]

I think they already had Goerge's copyrights since season 1. I'm sure George is pissed about it but he's being cordial.

[@Alex.551]

Would have*

[@Mattkayina]

when he introduced that lady and her work and the interviewer was just like "uhh yeahhh but WHAT ABOUT GAME OF THRONES"

[@lc1477]

Yeah, that was so rude. I mean I get it but you could have tossed in a "that's great" before completely disregarding her or something.

[@timanderson6344]

I find it a really odd time to be introducing unrelated material. Getting interviewed about GoT but hey look over here at this person who made this thing you never heard of. And really george if you have time to executive produce her show ''which i'm sure will be the next breaking bad'' you have time to finish a damn book this decade.

[@WhatDoesEvilMean]

She’s another failed comic book writer who they’re lifting up for, uh, “reasons unknown”.

[@gringochucha]

@@WhatDoesEvilMean Have you read the book?

[@WhatDoesEvilMean]

gringochucha That would imply that her books are readable. lol

[@kekistanihelpdesk8508]

I understand people get tired of doing the same thing BUT WHY NOT HAND IT OVER TO SOMEONE ELSE TO CONTINUE IT!!!!!????????

[@go_rilla262]

Who is good enough to finish GRRM'S work when even he can't?

[@TraphikHD]

Because no one gives a fuck. It’s a t.v show ffs. Get over it.

[@farrel6788]

@@TraphikHD i do :)

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

GRRM only let them do it because they had read the books. He didn't want anyone else doing it, unfortunately. Then D&D delivered this travesty of a season.

[@Brotection_]

@@TraphikHD *watches video crying* *comes to comments entitled and intentionally insensitive*

[@ROCKGURL30001]

Should had been 10 Seasons with 10 Episodes Each, and each Episode being a hour long 😡.

[@sirius9108]

I like how Jon saved everyone so many times and then he saves them again and they're like... nah you can leave

[@adrianaramirez7383]

Jon saved who? I'm sorry couldn't think of anyone other than people saving jon. Daenerys save him twice btw and what did she get?

[@sirius9108]

@@adrianaramirez7383 my bad dude I forgot that Daenerys wanted to help the north on her own

[@adrianaramirez7383]

@@sirius9108 really? I don't remember that being on top of her list for like 6 seasons. Maybe I watched the wrong show Idk.

[@sirius9108]

@@adrianaramirez7383 that's the point hot stuff... Jon got her to come to the north

[@kcmac9298]

Jon saved the night watch by hinding with mances group and warning them, then all the wildlings and got murdered by the nights watch for it for it. Then he also saved the north from the Boltons, and would have done so easily if Sansa didn't lie about the nights of the Vale being there. And he saved countless innocents from Danny's future wrath. Jon always does the right thing even if it costs him.

[@grayson243]

George rr marin: im the excutive producer for "Who fears death?". A song of fire and ice books: Am i a joke to you?

[@lipeprusch]

Quite fitting that he is working on something called "who fears death" as his fans are fearing for his death for decades and he doesn't seem to be bothered by the thought of it lol

[@11221jomey]

Who fears death novel is SO GOOD though

[@mayssounkalboussi1393]

We do. We fear death. His.

[@7moody771]

A song of ice and fire*

[@whoaitstiger]

@@lipeprusch You think he isn't bothered by the thought of dying? I don't know where you're getting that from.

[@isaacsilva3981]

Drogon went to Skyrim and Changed his name to Alduin

[@CybermanKing]

Isaac Silva hey you’re finally awake.

[@Wolfkyrie]

Isaac Silva I’m fucking done lol

[@isaacsilva3981]

@@CybermanKing goddammit 😩😭

[@Nani_M]

@@CybermanKing you were trying to cross the border right ?

[@lucifer-dr4ql]

Idk man, drogon was the father of alduin who created the language of a dova, on the other hand, paarthanux is the reincarnation of rheagal.

[@athirab6183]

When there was content laid out for them , Dan and David did an amazing job bringing GoT to life. They made the most amazing show. The first few seasons were just so so so good. When they had to develop the story on their own, they put their focus on grandeur and VFX, because they were probably incapable of coming up with great content on their own. What happened to show towards the end and how things ended - GoT will always be a painful memory.

[@TheBritishPeople]

Ahhh 10 seasons of GoT...tis nothing but a sweet distant summer dream now...winter has come.

[@angryo3448]

And gone ....

[@zorbahak11]

@@angryo3448 in like 20 mins top.

[@dorjjodvo1992]

@@zorbahak11 by super assassin Arya..

[@angryo3448]

@@dorjjodvo1992 super assassin ,,, she barely stayed in bravos for like 2years ,,she's quite an op character

[@MZeternally]

We'll see a great reboot of Game of Thrones in a couple decades

[@einar9350]

At least reboot of seasons 6-8.

[@Sporacle]

We're not going to be around in a couple decades. Television certainly not.

[@Leptyzz]

EI-nar!!!

[@REXAZOR]

no need the first 4 seasons are incredible and cannot be topped so waste of time. Season 5-6 are Okay to good so also dont need to be redone really bar certain parts.....7 and 8 are the only 2 seasons that wuld need to be redone

[@farmerkun1457]

Game of Thrones: Brotherhood

[@franky_saint]

First time I heard George's voice, I was like: "Damn. . . not as low-pitch as I expected." LOL

[@jacehackworth6413]

FrankySaint he sounds kind of like calm skeletor.

[@jagore1258]

@@jacehackworth6413 great now I can't unhear skeletor when he talks

[@jayluisesarmiento8558]

More like a high pitcher peter griffin

[@jacobschmidt8539]

I know! I was not expecting this voice from the dude

[@TLuu164]

now search for his laugh

[@albondigas9764]

Crazy, he’s working on so many things and not a single one of them is his book series

[@LX55408]

Sad, no wonder season 8 kind sucked. They didnt want to make it.

[@dannemannen18]

Kind? It was awful

[@Wenum32]

Kinda sucked? It sucked 100 percent cock in every way possible. Dipshit and Dumbass made sure of that

[@commelephenix4702]

You remind me of my friend Jay. Jay wish producers like d&d weren't so hungry for money.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@commelephenix4702 if they actually wanted money, they would've done a better job, and do 10+ seasons.

[@Risingofthephoenix]

He forgot to mention that D&D has a new contract with Star Wars so that's why they're moving on

[@OmniviumVelocity]

Even 9 seasons would have been enough. Season 8 for the long night, and season 9 for the war with cersei/conclusion would have been perfect. But no, they wanted that star wars money so they decided to shit out 6 episodes and call it a day

[@LucefieD]

even 10 episodes in season 8 would have made a huge difference in pacing, it wouldn't have been ideal but still better than what we got. The biggest issue is Dany going mad queen, you probably need at least 2 seasons to really show her change well, showing the shift the whole show would have been prime but meh. People say she went crazy in 2 episodes but honestly go watch season 8 again. She talks about how the northerners don't like her, she's clearly jealous/scared of jon. The signs are there, it's not great but they are there.

[@wckd4u]

I like your username. I just went on a hunt for the meaning of omnivium.

[@MayhemTyphone]

Let's not forget the tireless artists and crew behind the camera and in front, and how much work went into making this season. Those are the true heroes. If D&D somehow were able to tell a proper story with believable plot and a coherent narrative, then a 6 (long) EP season 8 could actually maybe work. Even though i would prefer a full season of 10 episodes. You could tell that everyone but D&D were actually trying their best.

[@Neil-qg9cw]

@@MayhemTyphone Nah, 6 eps is not enough. You need the breathing space between the big eps to relieve tension. As this season had none of that, but 2 big eps and a finale, the pacing was completely fucked. Like going on a rollercoster backwards. Rhaegal's death is the biggest example of this. You just don't care because you haven't had the tension of the previous ep (Long Night) relieved yet.

[@ManOfScienceManOfFaith]

They shortened the seasons AND took two years to film the last one. 99% Staging, Acting, Costumes, Music, CGI, Special Effects, Wolf Squad (I was sometimes awed by Inside The Episode on how they filmed shit) 1% Writing 100s of people putting in their best effort in their respective areas, meanwhile D&D cum on each other's face in a sign of 'good job laddy' after 3 hours of hangover writing, then go on to smear their whole body in excrement in hope of fucking up another franchise for some little dosh. They must've had more issue with thinking shit up on the fly during their after episode interviews because, as every good accomplished writer knows, your story isn't complete by a meta explanation right after. THESE' FOOLS' BEST ACCOMPLISHMENT BEFORE GOT WAS WOLVERINE: ORIGINS FOR FOOK'S SAKE

[@TheUnionJake]

Pretty simple solution to getting 10 seasons. Hire new writers. These guys have proven that pretty much anyone else could do a better job at this point.

[@MayhemTyphone]

The problem is that HBO doesn't own the rights to GoT. D&D got the rights from G.R.R.M. So they can't be fired.

[@reanukeeves4436]

@@MayhemTyphone get "rid of them"?

[@MayhemTyphone]

@@reanukeeves4436 What, like bury them in a ditch? After this season, i think that there's a slight chance of that happening.

[@reanukeeves4436]

@@MayhemTyphone there is millions of angry fans and hundreds of millions of dollars involved into the series.. Someone should give Dumb&dumber good old Bolton treatment.

[@Lysigh]

Bro I’m sure a lot of actors would of been replaced. Not everyone wants to spend their whole lives doing 1 tv show

[@mohirender]

This clip has been living rent free in my head since I first saw it years ago

[@reubenyesplease5374]

this makes me irrationally upset :(

[@CarlMarxPunk]

No no, it's pretty reasonable to be mad about this.

[@TS111WASD]

Ive been dead inside since Season 6 tbh

[@robertdecourcey6400]

@@CarlMarxPunk Yes get mad over a show. Especially when it's not real.

[@robertdecourcey6400]

@@CarlMarxPunk Also the books were always better everyone was stupid for trusting the X-Men origins wolverine writer to end it.

[@cameronsingletary8941]

irrational is the key there

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

The damn writer is on our side! wtf dude. D&D are freakin asshats. God bless this man.

[@PetersaberHD]

If he was on our side he would've done his fucking job and delivered his books on the very generous schedule, so D&D wouldn't have to go off several vague notes when writing episodes.

[@HerrHoppenstedt]

@@PetersaberHD That's one point to make. Another point to make would be: get actual writers and not adopters...

[@liamfoote7164]

@@PetersaberHD it's not that easy to write a story. Wouldn't you say this last season has shown what happens when you try and rush it?

[@drspicy9789]

@@PetersaberHD George is not gonna rush his masterpieces for the sake of your convenience

[@eduardorodriguezvazquez5120]

@@PetersaberHD Are u crazy his books take long time to write that's what makes them good and theirs a shit ton more characters in the books how the fuck do you want him to kill over 40 characters for because you wanted the books faster....😑😑 As he said all d&d had to do was look at the lore and go off of that this is not George fault

[@myunderpants222]

The prequels don't sound that interesting anymore when we know that at the end nothing mattered. All the prophecies, visions. D&D just ruined everything.

[@zanseinofan01]

The original Long Night could be quite interesting, and the story of the Targaryen dynasty is quite engaging.

[@jameswhite3415]

+Žan Ujčič Atleast for me, I am not watching it due to how poorly the night king story was in GOT.

[@ahmetusta6196]

@@jameswhite3415 this is dd fault now no one want to see prequels

[@aboutmillions]

Raj Susai 1000% true. None of it mattered

[@davidreber7816]

What about the children of the forest vs the first men? That seems interesting, we would get more backstory on the “others”.

[@Sannoz]

Why didnt they just replace D&D years ago when they said max 7 season? Must been others that would have loved to take over their job ;)