My desire to learn is being matched equally by my lack of comprehension.
@woodlefoof24 жыл бұрын
Try Duolingo it has a Latin course
@a.a.hamblen56544 жыл бұрын
Memento Mori Recte dicit!
@theonefreeman33754 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the wisest KZbin comment I have ever seen
@whiteboymike39993 жыл бұрын
Retatardicia es loi keq tei paizuh, par mijoniz di aniz el humbre varonil blancus escondidus nustro idiomi piro nustra furza numaz a crecende eztua le origini de lenguaje qui azido pachado purla buca de cadai varonil kei en esperetus estara presentus kendo nuztra jente vuelva e reignar y pasar vajo un nevo rex pacha todi le planeka
@Morpheux13 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@zADIA50253 жыл бұрын
Even one year after I first heard this, I still cannot get over how well-pronounced this is compared to the other versions I've heard. Bravo!
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Grātiās reddō tibi māximās.
@LukeRanieri5 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best pronunciation in a recording of the Aeneid ever attempting. Macte!!
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Much thanks, Luke. It's been a brilliant exercise.
@iberius99375 жыл бұрын
Both of the recordings you gentleman have made are excellent!
@1982spqr4 жыл бұрын
I find this to be a great tool for normalisation of pronunciation... I listen to it over and over... thank you.
@bobbyweirddick65564 жыл бұрын
The only problem is the r pronouncation and the s. The s is said to be as k. And for the r. You can tell a Romance language is not his mother tongue so the r is heighten.
@ronhoover54903 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@henripentant11202 жыл бұрын
I just came here from a recitation of odyseia in homeric greek it is just amazing me this stuff was once the purview of a very small class of people now I can hear a considerately reconstructed aeneid whenever little I want to, just amazing. Thanks!
@chloeccg64044 жыл бұрын
I’m taking Latin 1 this year. I’ve had a total of 2 shortened classes (half days) and I’m absolutely obsessed with it. It’s fascinating on so many levels, and I hope to one day reach this level of proficiency. Thank you for making this!
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Nīl est. Proficiency is not as hard, nor does it take as long, as you might think. Are you aware of Lingua Latīna per sē Illūstrāta?
@chloeccg64044 жыл бұрын
Menelmacar I just looked at it. I’m ordering a copy asap! Thank you.
@l25163 жыл бұрын
1 year later, how is it going? Fluent yet? :D
@MA-ck4wu2 жыл бұрын
@@chloeccg6404 You're hot.
@enzop1775 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of good things here, like the nasalization, ellision, and even the circumflex accent in words like “prīmus”. The biggest thing is that ō was probably raised from short o, more like the o in “go” but monophthongized. Also, l’s in most environments other than before “i” was l-pinguis like in “law”. Also, this is a less definite feature but since ellision occurs, Latin probably did not use the glottal stop, so a sequence of two i’s was probably realized with an approximant in between like “ih-yee”. Otherwise, the fact that this recording even exists is great.
@jackray25104 жыл бұрын
could you point me to a comprehensive pronunciation guide that outlines everything you're talking about here? I'm currently working through Wheelock's 6th ed. which is greatly simplified. But I have studied IPA and would like to take a more detailed approach.
@enzop1774 жыл бұрын
Jack Ray I’d say Allen’s “Vox Latina”. Not so much IPA since it’s a little older but I think it’s the most thorough.
@jackray25104 жыл бұрын
@@enzop177 thank you!
@Zavendea4 жыл бұрын
Jack Ray Just FYI, some of the stuff in Vox Latina is somewhat controversial. Not saying not to read it, but the use of [ɪ] and [ʊ] as short [iː] [uː] is not totally accepted.
@quamne3 жыл бұрын
@@Zavendea because it’s probably not correct
@juniusrabbinius2115 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is terrific! The best I’ve heard since Musa illa Pedestris!
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Thanks indeed for your high praise.
@MusaPedestris5 жыл бұрын
What am I reading here? 😀 Thanks very much. This one is much more correct than mine - I like it!
@Mary-eo7ir3 жыл бұрын
i put this on in the background when im studying and having listened to it (subliminally?) many, many times i really think it has helped a lot with my accent and the flow of the language. thank you so much for making this available! it can be hard to find latin audio.
@blacksheep63652 жыл бұрын
The year 2021 is nearly over. To escape modernity I have begun studying allegedly dead languages. Now, having searched YT for "Latin audiobook," I am delighted to discover this recording and somewhat surprised at the number of people who have apparently also chosen to revive this exquisite ancestor of so many modern languages.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Quōmodo discis Latīnē? Quōs legis librōs?
@abhinavchauhan78642 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG ego latium non loquor. Ego sanscritam scio. Latinum et sanscritam sunt similis.
@abhinavchauhan78642 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG ☹
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavchauhan7864 Egō volō Sānscritam discere!
@abhinavchauhan78642 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG wow. Can i help you?
@aaron38905 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I LOVE not only the excellent pronunciation but the energy and passion in the reading.
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Grātiās tibi dēbeō.
@simonm24234 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these! This was exactly what I needed. Subscribed!
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it served you well, and much thanks for the subscription. I plan to finish the Aeneid and also branch out into some other stuff, both classical and mediaeval.
@VoidLantadd9 ай бұрын
@@MenelmacarLGPlease do! (It's been five years)
@MenelmacarLG9 ай бұрын
Ālātum tempus.@@VoidLantadd
@MusaPedestris5 жыл бұрын
Hoc perbene factum est, et quod ad metrum, et quod ad pronuntiationem pertinet - laudo!
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Grātiās māximās tibi agō.
@Muck-qy2oo4 жыл бұрын
Moretum bonum gustibus.
@ThatsShowbizBabyy Жыл бұрын
I was looking for something like this. I am taking an introductory class on the Romans and my professor speaks and reads Latin like this. We are reading the translation of this novel but I find myself captivated by the language. I could listen to it for ages.
@chris10hi2 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the closest rendition of restored pronunciation, I have listened to others, especially native Italians or Greeks trying to do renditions of ancient languages and they seem to shorten the vowel quality or the syllables the way the current languages are. Its like listening to a Latino or Russian speaking English, they rush through the syllables shorting vowels or lateral and nasal finals. This is great, because its pronounced by a speaker whose native language has more similar lengths of syllables to the latin.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. What do you think is my native language?
@MatW1lson Жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG What is your mother tongue? And would you please make more recitations and put them up for sale! :) Chris is correct; you have the best pronunciation!
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
@@MatW1lson I'm an American, but I try to hide my native accent when I speak another language. Thank you for your praise and your interest. I am working on another big project now. It will hopefully be available pretty soon.
@MatW1lson Жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLGHow’s the progress so far? I commented on Christmas Eve 2022 and it’s now June 13th 2023. Just start publishing small stuff. You can refine later. I would like to hear you recite all of Vergil’s poems like Georgics and Eclogues. You and Daniel Pettersson have the best classical Latin voices. I do believe that eventually there will be a wave of market demand in people wanting to learn Latin... Within 5-10 years. Right now though... there is not much of a market but there will be. I’m also from the USA btw (Ohio).
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
@@MatW1lson Thanks for your encouragement, and for your praise. Slow going over here, but I won't deny I agree that I should be doing small stuff.
@magicmulder4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch, I’ve been looking for a longer text to listen to for quite some time. And I’d pay $$$ to know how an ancient Roman would rate our attempts to restore pronunciation. ;)
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I intend to finish the Aeneid as well as read some other stuff. If you have a request I'd gladly consider it.
@magicmulder3 жыл бұрын
@@annterashita1770 Not as close as Ecclesiastical Latin does (which is more like medieval Latin which is (at least) as removed from original Latin as medieval English is from ours).
@alessiorancani5482 Жыл бұрын
can you continue to publish the remaining books of the Aeneid? Please, Virgil is my favorite Latin poet in fact I'm reading The Aeneid and I just finished the eighth book, I'm passionate about the Latin language and culture and your pronunciation is sensational! 🥺❤
@lexxshot88944 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This sounds perfect. I am currently taking latin and I was trying to hear the pronunciations in a more fluent manner.
@yunasimanuishmausha4547 Жыл бұрын
Such experthood is rare among Latinists.
@jamesreubenhaney45045 жыл бұрын
Dilectissime, Logane! Numquam melior recitationem Vergilii audivi. Audiam iterum iterumque.
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Grātiās tibi māximās agō.
@jamesreubenhaney45045 жыл бұрын
No matter how much time I spend revising before I post, I always seem to notice mistakes after the fact. Arrgh! (meliorem)
@calunthomas27163 жыл бұрын
Incredibile dictu est, hoc est luce sole ipso clarius!
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! Beautiful and very impressive!! A few suggestions to make subsequent recordings even better: 1) pause a bit when there’s a comma or period, or at the end of a grammatical chunk to make it easier for the reader to understand. 2) try to match your intonation to the meaning...for example, in line 11, it’s a question, but you don’t really read it like a question. 3) maintain the natural word stress/accent of each word...sometimes it sounds like you’re stressing the wrong syllable in order to make a long vowel long: cano, Troiae, iram, urbem, patres, etc. I know that there are some who disregard the natural stress in poetry, so I guess it’s a matter of taste, but I find it much nicer when there’s both the meter AND and the normal stress.
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
@@Thelaretus Thanks! I have read that article and am aware of the different approaches. I listened to the recording many times and based my comments on that, but it’s not a big deal at all, and I can certainly be wrong. I listened to the reading of Book 2, and it’s excellent. The accents seemed to me, with rare exceptions, to be perfectly fine.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidAmster Thank you, sir, for your praise and critique.
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Thank YOU for all the work you’ve put into this project. It’s wonderful! I have listened to some of your Book 2 as well and it’s great. It seems that you’re paying a lot more attention there to the meaning of each sentence or phrase, which makes it much more pleasant to listen to. I am very sorry for some of the brutal comments some people have left. I hope that doesn’t discourage you. I’m working on little videos of Catullus poems, and sometimes the “feedback” is quite harsh! A good exercise in Stoicism :)
@RamismTamoid3 жыл бұрын
It is too much performance, trying for perfection of which we know little; I feel I will deliver a recitation based more on the dactylic hexameters than rolling r’s (aristocratic speech) we know this was another language from the commons meant to elevate the Latin language. I was a Bronx boy who thirsted for Homer & Virgil. My first encounter as a high school student was at Bronx Community College & Fordham College where I first read the Loeb Library of Classical Latin & Greek. That is 50 years ago. I still have a copy of Catullus always at hand. Also Amo, Amas, Amat & More by by Eugene Ehrlich (Introduction by William F. Buckley) cites many incorrect pronunciation. The stresses are not falling in poetical place here. Give me a chance for an honest hearing of an amateur. It is not curriculum vitae (it should sound like kuu-RIH-kuu-luum WEE-ti). Well long vowel weetay. I will welcome your honest opinion in any case. I have waited years to do this. I don’t think I should do so terrible; this is not only an academic pursuit.
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
@@RamismTamoid Hi Thomas, are you referring to a recitation you’ve done or are going to do?
@CowMaster90014 жыл бұрын
Was the rolled R part of how Latin was typically spoken?
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
It was rolled in certain positions, yes. At the beginning of words and phrases and also when doubled. So it's tapped in "serō" but rolled in "serrō".
@tylermills-sm9nb5 күн бұрын
I know this is an older post, but I think this is an impressive reading. You may work on your delivery of your interpretation of the characters thoughts, volition, and feelings throughout the narrative, but It's obvious you'll deliver something transformative once you fully grasp the depths of the Aeneid's themes with this penetrating sound of classical latin. I hope you don't feel discouraged by any of the negative comments because there's latin learners who appreciate any effort, even if it's not the best you feel you could give until you reach full mastery. It's all in good practice.
@MenelmacarLG5 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot, Tyler, for your encouragement and praise. Don't worry, I still mean to finish: other things have gotten in the way for a while, but the goal hasn't changed.
@tylermills-sm9nb2 күн бұрын
Awesome, I truly understand. It's pretty strange times in the social/economic sphere, so I'm sure that hasn't helped. I'm excited to hear what you have next, so I'm subscribed!
@brucewren46054 жыл бұрын
Beginning at 15:02 is my favorite passage.
@ShaareiZoharDaas5 жыл бұрын
I shared this with my group because it is so stunning..
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Much thanks for sharing, but what kind of group do you mean?
@ShaareiZoharDaas5 жыл бұрын
Not" Group" per se on my LinkedIn account where I try to expose the world to the beauty of languages. I am Chasidah "Chaz"Fried on LinkedIn.
@pompshuffle5622 жыл бұрын
Trying to teach myself Latin. I have no idea any of what was said. I will understand. Not now but eventually... I will comprehend this.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Get a hold of Lingua Latîna per sê Illûstrâta. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGjLlWpvbq6tpLc
@carlosviloria14085 жыл бұрын
Optime! Bene recitatum est. Valeas plurimum!
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Gaudeō et tibi grātiās agō.
@janusgates2589 Жыл бұрын
Tua pronuntiatio est lenis, me place multissimo, debo gratias tibi, hoc auxiliat
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Libenter.
@dionysiussidorius46153 жыл бұрын
I have been listening to this video from time to time since 2019. I really love your pronunciation, Especially your long and nasalized vowels and r's. Who are you, magister, habesne to Instagramma , Telegramma, Librum Faciei? Quid est nomen tibi?
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Grātiās tibi agō for your kind words. I'll get book 3 out one of these days, and eventually the whole poem. As for myself, I try to keep him away from this channel if I can help it.
@dexchaos92224 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Your pronunciation is so awesome!
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
libenter, amīce
@koalalunaris12272 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these!!!!
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Pārēbō. Et grātiās tibi agō.
@joelkelly41542 жыл бұрын
Bene recitavisti. Vale
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Grātiās prō grātiā.
@simoncivilengineering15844 жыл бұрын
this is fantastic, very well done!
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Grâtiâs tibi agô.
@nagili4 Жыл бұрын
While this is good, especially in comparison to other 'spoken Latin' on KZbin, it sounds quite artificial to me for over-emphasising features like vowel length, nasalisation etc. This is what a lot of my fellow classicists do, so I still give you high kudos for this version, but keep in mind that there's vowel length in English too and the difference really isn't a lot. Nevertheless, keep going!
@nikolamatijasevic22812 ай бұрын
This. I appreciate the effort, but it just grinds my gears so much when I listen to stuff like this. And I can't believe people think this is what Latin sounded like.
@Dashuyan889 ай бұрын
Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam, fātō profugus, Lāvīniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō vī superum saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram; multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem, inferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum, Albānīque patrēs, atque altae moenia Rōmae. Mūsa, mihī causās memorā, quō nūmine laesō, quidve dolēns, rēgīna deum tot volvere cāsūs īnsīgnem pietāte virum, tot adīre labōrēs impulerit. Tantaene animīs caelestibus īrae? Urbs antīqua fuit, Tyriī tenuēre colōnī, Karthāgō, Ītaliam contrā Tiberīnaque longē ōstia, dīves opum studiīsque asperrima bellī, quam Iūnō fertur terrīs magis omnibus ūnam posthabitā coluisse Samō; hīc illius arma, hīc currus fuit; hōc rēgnum dea gentibus esse, sī quā Fāta sinant, iam tum tenditque fovetque. Prōgeniem sed enim Trōiānō ā sanguine dūcī audierat, Tyriās olim quae verteret arcēs; hinc populum lātē regem bellōque superbum ventūrum excidiō Libyae: sīc volvere Parcās. Id metuēns, veterisque memor Sāturnia bellī, prīma quod ad Trōiam prō cārīs gesserat Argīs-necdum etiam causae īrārum saevīque dolōrēs exciderant animō: manet altā mente repostum iūdicium Paridis sprētaeque iniūria fōrmae, et genus invīsum, et raptī Ganymēdis honōrēs. Hīs accēnsa super, iactātōs aequore tōtō Trōas, rēliquiās Danaum atque immītis Achillī, arcēbat longē Latiō, multōsque per annōs errābant, āctī Fātīs, maria omnia circum. Tantae mōlis erat Rōmānam condere gentem!
@saintburnsy24683 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the historicity of retracted s for Classical Latin? Seeing that you use a fronted (non-retracted) s. Great video, great Latin!
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
I just didn't know about it back when I made this. I use it now. Lots of fun.
@LuizCarlos-pr2re Жыл бұрын
Por favor, se possível, continue a postar o restante dos livros com esta pronúncia, é excepcionalmente boa e única
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Grātiās prō laude tuā. Velim, et habeō prōpositum ut cēterōs faciam librōs, sed tam negōtiōsus sum nunc temporis ut nesciam quandō... Sed tandem! Volō.
@unmitigateddisaster37934 ай бұрын
Rome framing it's origin myth around their ancestor pump n' dumping The Queen of Carthage is one of the most savage and hilarious burns in antiquity.
@ludwigfernweh5402 жыл бұрын
2 years that I’m listening that and I still don’t know who is the one reciting this poem, please help me amici
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
I'm the one reciting the poem. Hello. It's gratifying to know you've been using this for two years, thank you.
@ludwigfernweh5402 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Hello. Thank to you ! I think you recite extremely well, I even like listening so much that I am able to recite the beginning 😭 congrats from France
@louesorg3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Instant subscribtion earned.
@joaocabral35415 жыл бұрын
It seems very realistic, thanjyou for ehelping em with my oral test Also, do you mind uf i ask waht is your mother language?
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Thank you indeed, I'm glad it was helpful. My mother-tongue is English.
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
And what's your mother-tongue?
@joaocabral35415 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Portuguese, that's why i asked, you sounded really mediterraniam
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
An excellent compliment, thank you.
@iberius99374 жыл бұрын
@@joaocabral3541 That's the idea. Americans and British and Germans and such STRIP Latin and Ancient Greek of their Mediterranean flavor with their bad pronunciations and accents.
@Jimserac Жыл бұрын
There was an old Latin textbook my junior high used in the early 1960's - it was beginner level but was based on the Aeneid. Does anyone know title and author ?
@wade35583 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and very impressive! Great work on this!
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Grâtiam tibi habeô.
@Nico_00-q3 жыл бұрын
Omg those rolled R's sound really hard to pronounce and i speak spanish. Congratulations
@kornet_853 жыл бұрын
Bueno soy hablante nativo de español y se entiende bastante...bueno tengo la ventaja de saber muchos sinónimos en castellano mínimo 2 por palabras entonces me.resulta un poco las fácil captar algunas palabras y frases del latín
@Sara-zk7ni3 жыл бұрын
why the narrator doesn't pronounce"M" as the last letter?
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Romans of Vergil's time really did that. Weird stuff. Compare French and Japanese for something similar (with -N).
@TheUnseenRapper4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Work!
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Thank you indeed.
@openlatin60874 жыл бұрын
Hi there, would you be willing to release this as Creative Commons so it can be added to Wikipedia / Vicipaedia?
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Sure. What does releasing it require?
@openlatin60874 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Hi there, there are two options: (1) Edit the video here and change the licence to "Creative Commons cc-by" (Edit video » Video details » More options » Licence panel) - this is easiest, we will do the rest. (2) Upload the video to Wiki Commons. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (this is a bit more fiddly).
@humester9 ай бұрын
Mortuus es? Duae rēs tantum? Ubi es?
@MenelmacarLG9 ай бұрын
Bene monēs.
@samanthagupta4 жыл бұрын
This is very impressive
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Grātiās tibi agō.
@charleskimbrell9040 Жыл бұрын
Play it a few times over. Get a copy of the text and alternate between reading and listening. Review your grammar.
@soulfulserenity4032 жыл бұрын
Estne Luke Ranieri? Sounds like his beautiful lilts especially in certain poetic parts. And of course the rest of the amazing he has which perfects lingua Latina.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
I'm not Luke, but I have imitated his pronunciation ever since I started speaking Latin. Grātiās tibi agō prō verbīs dulcibus.
@soulfulserenity4032 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG grātiās beyond words. Your audiobooks are the only ones I've found on YT worth listening to repeatedly (for classical latin) and you've done an incredible job at learning from Luke and all your other sources. If I could donate I would - perhaps you could put an option on your links for people to give :) or maybe option to buy offline version to keep? I appreciate all your time and care. You and Luke are exceptional 🙏❤️
@janusroland Жыл бұрын
Euge! Gratias!
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Libenter.
@janusroland Жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Alias recitationes mox facies? Pronuntiatio tua placet.
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
@@janusroland Tertium parô.
@janusroland Жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG optime! cupide expecto
@ilikedinosaurs392 Жыл бұрын
I know next to nothing about latin, grammar or languages and I don't know why I'm here, listening to the aeneid in, apparently, a near perfect restoration of classical Latin but it sounds cool👍 keep it up and good luck to the people learning this weird language
@NoctesWratislavienses5 жыл бұрын
Macte! Perplacet recitatio.
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Grātiās laudis auscultandīque tuī causā agō.
@lukeprizer4 жыл бұрын
How different is ecclesiastical latin from Classical Latin? Is this Classical Latin?
@TheEuphrosyne12163 жыл бұрын
It is Classical Latin. Ecclesiastical Latin is much the same language, but pronounced quite differently. The sounds of Eccl. Latin begin to approach what we hear in modern day Italian, and something like it might have been similar to the speech of the common people of Ancient Rome.
@mr.osamabingaming26333 жыл бұрын
@@TheEuphrosyne1216 for example the v in Ecc. sounds like a normal /v/ like in Italian, but in Classical Latin it's a /w/. Classical Latin is technically correct, but either pronunciation is fine.
@samisiddiqi54113 жыл бұрын
That's strange, I never knew Latin had some nasal sounds. I hear a bit of French. Nevertheless, this is great.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Thank you much. The nasal vowels occur in two places: firstly, at the end of words that end in M (jam, puellam, quem, &c.), and secondly, in words where an N precedes an S or F (īnfāns).
@Jakethegoodman3 жыл бұрын
I tell myself i should learn a new language. I come up with the one no one speaks.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Sī nēminem putārēs Latīnē loquī posse, errārēs. If you thought no one speaks Latin, you'd be wrong.
@MrHunglikemule4 жыл бұрын
That is some clean latin. magnifico
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Grātiās tibi habeō.
@albertkundrat17342 жыл бұрын
if CYDONIA on MARS is something that's covered up, how did these MARTIANS talk with Each Other? For the ROMANS always claimed ancestry from FATHER MARS.
@alcinado20722 жыл бұрын
I believe this is Hans Örberg speaking. Imagine the difficulty of learning to understand and speak latin this good when you are Danish.
@amandagambino9136 Жыл бұрын
Totally engrossing is he
@VoidLantadd9 ай бұрын
Impressive that he recorded it from the grave.
@classicalliberalarts2 жыл бұрын
You honestly believe that this what the Aeneid sounded like? There's almost no perceptible rhythm/meter in this reading.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean. How should the metre sound, in your opinion?
@tudormardare665 жыл бұрын
Pronuntiatione Circeronis est? Audio "e" et "o" apertos, et longis vocalibus. Felicitationes pro lectura!
Rēctē monēs Cicerōnem "nōn vastē, nōn rūstice, nōn hiulcē, sed pressē et aequābiliter et lēniter" locūtum esse.
@TheGhostOperative4 жыл бұрын
it's imprtant to mini pause between words to make it sounds more natural. great work btw. "just the other day, (*pause*) Bob told me he went to 7/11 (*pause*) to grab a pack of beer. (*pause*) "
@fraternitas51174 жыл бұрын
that is not exactly how Latin dactylic hexameter works, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/opDOcotuep16e9U
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
I agree, if you mean between the syntactic chunks.
@fraternitas5117 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would read this in a casual reading tempo instead of strict meter.
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Fair.
@MM-li4sp Жыл бұрын
The lines will be metrical by default even in a casual reading. Metre isn't something imposed on the verbs. But yes, it is a bit monotone and strained.
@yunasimanuishmausha4547 Жыл бұрын
The o and e sgould be the values of Castilian Spanish. Not open e and o.
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that? I'm not familiar.
@larbaud Жыл бұрын
Is it just my impression or is ther a little Carthaginian accent in his pronunciation?😮
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
No idea what a Carthaginian accent sounds like, so I'd say it's in your head.
@teachandfunnstuff31272 жыл бұрын
This guys latin is fluent enough to make a conversation with ancient romans
@paolodesiato9497 Жыл бұрын
Is it latin from Mars?
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
You mean because I sound like an alien.
@BrandonBoardman5 күн бұрын
This is the Restored Classical pronunciation of Latin (la pronuncia restituta). You're probably used to the Ecclesiastical pronunciation.
@keegster71674 жыл бұрын
Diligo quomodo tu quidem recitaveris nasis adlatis vocalis. Hoce autem tale conorum paenitet. Sed id tamquam est, opus praeclare factum sit.
@keegster71672 жыл бұрын
I don’t what I was trying to say with that second sentence lol. By the way, I had a thought after learning more about the phonetics of Latin: you sound like an Ancient Greek who’s learnt Latin but kept a bit of an accent! Which is very classical indeed. Two pieces of evidence: 1. you pronounce long vowels as open instead of closed like the long vowels in ancient varieties of Greek, 2. you sound almost like you’re using a pitch accent, and like Greek, you pay attention more to the poetic meter for intonation than individual stresses of words. This is not a criticism though! I just think it’s interesting
@majadirks3 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful! I'm looking for a Restored Pronunciation recording of Book XII - do you have that planned anytime soon?
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I doubt it will be any time soon, but I do plan to finish this. I'm not very happy with it, though, and will post the next book when my Latin is up to par. I'll think about doing 12 next, though, since you've requested it.
@luisapires29173 жыл бұрын
Nossa, adoraria saber falar latim.
@keegster71672 жыл бұрын
18:50 21:00 ‘togata’
@MSchmitz775 жыл бұрын
Corporibus nostris temporem vertere non possumus, sed possumus prō menitbus nostris ex hōc font vēris bibere
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Dulcia verba.
@poolschool55872 жыл бұрын
Wow
@jamesreubenhaney45045 жыл бұрын
I'm adding this as a second comment so it will be easier for you to delete if it becomes obsolete. I found two little issues with the video. Around the 14:20 mark, I thought I heard a repeated line. Maybe that's the thing you told us you were planning to edit out. Also, there's 1:15 of dead air at the end (starting at 56:58 or so). As I said, feel free to delete this comment. I would have sent this as a private message, but I don't think I have your contact info.
@MenelmacarLG5 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, thanks, good call on the repeated line: I thought I'd found the last one. The dead space at the end was an accident I just left in. Last time I tried to fix the video in the KZbin editor I deleted everything except what I was trying to delete: we'll see how I fare this time.
@aleksisiltala104 жыл бұрын
Sounds like me reading latin 😂
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Esne Finnicus?
@Ifritletsplay2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to roll latin R's that hard every time they appear...
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
I dare say you're right.
@PortingaleNightingaleАй бұрын
0:56
@anthapersephone7311Ай бұрын
Gnarly
@brandot71672 жыл бұрын
good pronunciation but this is not being recited as actual poetry, it's too robotic
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Fair point, I agree.
@jaybonn59732 жыл бұрын
Shit I'm doing this. Ok.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@jaybonn59732 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG I clicked in the video kind of not paying attention, thinking, oh cool the aneid in Latin. And then I saw the time... it was one of those moments where you're on a run away train and you can either jump off into the abyss and probably die or follow the journey into the shadows. Neither are the greatest but with the darkness there is the guarantee of something interesting happening, and honestly, if you've accidentally clicked on something, might as well smash it with gusto. You know that kind of shit I'm doing this.
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Do you know Latin?
@jaybonn59732 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG I know spanish. I can look st latin and read some words.
@annalysenko9180 Жыл бұрын
9:30 (124)
@annalysenko918011 ай бұрын
15:56
@subaqua389711 ай бұрын
caesuras deesse doleo
@beatoriche7301 Жыл бұрын
Maxime amo pronuntiatum tuum. Quamquam didici linguam Latinam quattro annis in schola, numquam cogitavi Latine loqui. Ignorans phonologiam sermonis, quaesivi exempla soni intra hebdomades recentes, ut percipiam linguam Latinam elocutam. Felix sum oratione tua inventa et carpam pro usu. Praeterea miror, quod ausus es innotescere pronuntiatum tuum - minime ausus essem orbi monstrare, quod nimis timida sum. (Scribere Latine etiam non consuesco, ergo condonas errata mea.)
@MenelmacarLG Жыл бұрын
Sed bene vidēris scrībere saltem didicisse Latīnum sermōnem. Quōmodo pergit disciplīna?
@beatoriche7301 Жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG Respōnsum tuum maximē dīligitur. Nōnnumquam post illam litteram adhūc Latīnē scrībēbam loquēbarque, et nunc cēnseō mē lentē sed incessanter prōgressam esse. Ut ōlim didicī aliōs sermōnēs, sīc nunc cōnor discere Latīnum. Rēgulāriter Latīnē legō et scrībō et audiō et loquor, saepe auxiliō librī Linguae Latīnae per sē Illūstrātae; nōn nōvī ūllum alium opus, ā quō scientia mea linguae hōc gradū aucta sit. Enim ūtor bibliothēcam digitālem nōmine Legentibus et eō modō quaerō contāctum audītīvum. Postrēmō coepī ipsa scrībere fābulās et poēmata nōtūra optiōnes auctōrum. Poēmata sunt praecipuē magnō ūsū; eōs semper ēloquor et ergō sentiō cōnsecūtiōnēs, prō exemplō, canendī versum multīs cum spondēīs. Haec sunt gradūs meī ad discendum linguam Latīnam - habēsne suāsiōnēs propriās prō novā discipulā?
@深夜-l9f4 жыл бұрын
it sounds a bit persian and that's kinda weird. anyway thanks
@DualAxer3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because of his pronunciation, in my opinion the melodic pronunciation makes it sound like several distinct languages at times.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
@@DualAxer I don't know what "melodic pronunciation" means. I'm not doing pitch-accent, if that's what you mean. I'm just inexperienced lol.
@Amazin110003 жыл бұрын
1:35 He says a Dookie Lol
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
Really...?
@Amazin110003 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG more like at 1:37 actually.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
@@Amazin11000 No, I mean "really?" as in, is that all you've got for this comment-section?
@Amazin110003 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG I think you take yourself too seriously. Sheesh.
@MenelmacarLG3 жыл бұрын
@@Amazin11000 Come now, that joke hasn't been clever since we were three years old.
@bbcblibberbroadcastingcorp26512 жыл бұрын
Rauci corvi vox est, non columbae,
@MenelmacarLG2 жыл бұрын
Hahae certê
@Minosabi2 жыл бұрын
When Romans got drunk...
@quasi-intellecual37903 жыл бұрын
It kind of sounds like persian to me. I dont know why.
@vladimirkravchenko639911 ай бұрын
CALLIDE!
@ezzovonachalm70385 жыл бұрын
Horribile auditu lexisti ! Hoc non latinum sed pessimum dialectum Italiae inferioooris est. Tántae molís erát románam cóndere géntem, __ scansionemque respectavisti. Vae tibi !
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
Tibi assentior, pessimē recitāvī, et nimium servī ictuum. Exercitium puerī est. Auscultēs recitātiōnem alteram meam et discrīmina, sī adsint, inveniat auris ācris tua.
@ihatecars73644 жыл бұрын
Pienso que el habla latino monumental. Latino es no supuesto estar perfecto.el punto es que el latino es comprehensible.
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
@@ihatecars7364 grātiās tibi agō
@ihatecars73644 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG perdoname puedes tu repitarlo por mi por favor. Te agradezco por su gratis.
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
@@ihatecars7364 Nōn bene intellegō. Quid vīs mē iterum dīcere?
@SamDiMento4 жыл бұрын
Only Protestants could dream up and recreate such an awful pronunciation. I refuse to believe that Julius Caesar said “weeny weedy weeky”!
@albertkundrat17344 жыл бұрын
Oh carissimus Discipulus Linguae Latinae, It's WAY-KNEE, rather than WEENY!
@SamDiMento4 жыл бұрын
@@albertkundrat1734 True...doesn't make it sound any better!
@albertkundrat17344 жыл бұрын
@@SamDiMento Would it sound better to JULIUS CAESAR Himself, who originally uttered It out to be recorded! Only He would know if the exact nuanced pronunciation is correct, whether pleasing or not to us of another age, but definitely pleasing to Him...
@DavidAmster3 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the V as a W sound in the 1st century? If so, I think there’s pretty good evidence that that’s how it was pronounced. Whether it’s awful or beautiful is really a matter of taste/habit :)
@mr.osamabingaming26333 жыл бұрын
@@DavidAmster personally I like it, it sounds strangely more authoritative.
@alexa.56014 жыл бұрын
What this crap reading is... lol
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
What do you think its worst aspect is?
@aleksisiltala104 жыл бұрын
@@MenelmacarLG It doesn't sound natural at all
@MenelmacarLG4 жыл бұрын
@@aleksisiltala10 Yes, it doesn't sound natural to me, either, but it's at least a beginning.
@iberius99374 жыл бұрын
And I bet you could do better? Read with a perfect Italianate accent and reconstructed pronunciation? With passion and a feel for the material? Doubtful.