companions react to you telling yurgir to kill himself | baldur's gate 3

[@kiamaria331]

*Astarion:* Can we kill him? We ARE going to kill him, right? Why aren't we killing him? Can we fcking KILL him?!" *Gale:* Can we leave? I think we should just leave. Did you hear that, Tav? He sounds reaally dangerous. Let's leave!" Poetic cinema lol.

[@Vida7354]

And later during the Convo Astarion is propably like " oh ok you talked him in to killing His 2 minions...*2 seconds later* ",ok he offed the cat Dmon thing...* At the end after demon offed himself* ".....I think I'm in love"

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

I love Gale he’s so real for that. Queen of “Hey this looks scary, let’s dip.”

[@tobak952]

@@Miles_Phantasmagoria this is legitemately why his int is higher than anyone else... he is the only reasonable person at camp lol

[@uwu-uv4mg]

​@@Vida7354Yurgir can easily turn Gale into paste, so I can't blame the wizard man

[@jimmymeridian5174]

That bit was kinda weird for me. Like, geez Astarion, wanna say that any fucking louder? I don't think you he heard you clearly enough.

[@bogdantanasescu3527]

I love Karlach's reaction. Simple. Think, you're a soldier in the blood war, you probably sustained quite a few serious injuries over the last decade but they taught you how to survive(what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger) and here comes a person you barely know and basically convinces a devil you wouldn't want to fuck with , to kill himself. No fight, nothing, just a few well placed words and a LOT of confidence. Of course you wouldn't know what else to say. And i think the "brutal" line is more for her self esteem than the dead devil.

[@Fuer64]

Putting it into perspective like that makes this scene terrifying Like, with just the right words, the pc just convinced a wardevil to kill themselves, even if they probably did get help from probably a lack of sanity and a lot of desperation, that's still terrifying

[@bogdantanasescu3527]

@@Fuer64 Right? If I was Karlach , I would have said to myself: " Gods, I should have bit my tongue when I told him I was really good at killing devils."

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

I was imagining it from a “holy shit who am I travelling with who actually, successfully used KYS in an argument”, but the perspective of her self-esteem just getting crushed BC some bard stopped a fight w a war devil before it even slightly began is delightful to me! Like, “Well. Huh. I guess I should have beefed up my charisma a little.”

[@radraccoon9489]

It's the first reaction I got and so far it's my favourite Personally I interprated the "brutal" as she's seen a lot of fucked up shit in her life but this one was a unique kind of fucked up

[@jasminesidney8174]

@@Miles_Phantasmagoriamy Durge did it as a monk

[@IDontNeedAHandleIfIDontCreateC]

Fun Fact: If you don’t know about Astarian’s scars, he will say something along the lines of “I’m impressed! Genuinely impressed! That was incredible!”

[@godoflemmings17]

That smug smile on Tav's face after Yurgir kills himself slays me lmao

[@thelostone7512]

The hands on the hips adds a lot.

[@-bielle2985]

The face they make when they tell him "kys" is comedy gold 😂

[@nyanyazuchan]

God i love gale's honest reaction 😂

[@kalimyre]

Right? Gale is like "well mark me down as scared AND horny"

[@EasySqueezy1]

@@kalimyreGale: I’m scaroused

[@TheMeta141]

we just convinced a Wardevil to kill his men. kill his pet. then himself. with WORDS. by far the most brutal and most D&D moment

[@Miles_Phantasmagoria]

Wyll’s reaction is SO delightful. He is SO on board for the toxic gamer chat tactic if it’s for a devil. I love him

[@seesaweffect8095]

I love how u put that lmao

[@jamesvivian2855]

Gales’ reaction is the best but they’re all so good. Being able to talk a powerful creature into killing itself is so good, such classic DnD

[@rettbull9100]

Gale being impressed is a feat in it's self.

[@williamred937]

My Astarion reaction was different? He said something like "By the Gods, you actually did it! Wow, I'm impressed"

[@awitchx]

you'll get that version if he didn't get the chance to talk to raphael! I also posted that one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6vchoR_psh3aq8si=6bRQw0bBLPEGki44

[@thenameiswater2921]

I'm still in love with how Gale reacts. I've gotten it to happen so many times in my own saves. I know it's platonic, but at the same time I just imagine him being simultaneously turned on and turned off (bc of fear) by that.

[@leyrua]

After Gale reacted, I really wanted to say something to the effect of: "As much as I would like to take credit for that working, I think he's just been down here WAY too long. Otherwise he would have realized that WE have ears too." 😅

[@tropicturtle9021]

I think it was specifically ‘anyone who heard Raphael’s song’, or at least that’s how we twisted the contract. Not just ‘anyone with ears’.

[@leyrua]

@@tropicturtle9021 But he sang it to us. That's HOW we know the terms.

[@start9799]

Making Yurgir kill himself is absolutely justified. He’s doing awful things to that displacer beast…

[@RoosSkywalker]

What does he do?

[@start9799]

@@RoosSkywalker drugs it into being romantically attracted to him

[@valengo9468]

I dont think charm makes it romantically attracted, just more like amicable. Makes it not want to kill him@@start9799

[@GlitchyPixExtra]

​@@start9799wait what

[@NoLifeButMyOwn]

@@start9799 Aaaaaaaaah I always wondered what that suspicious spider corpse was there for. I just thought Yurgir was into weird shit. I’m still not wrong about that.

[@presidenttogekiss635]

I fuckinhg love Gale. "I´m awed, impressed and alittle bit scared right now"

[@emergencyfood7135]

I love Gales reaction. Nothing beats being admired and feared at the same time.

[@thecheck968]

I am so devastated I missed out on this while playing as my sadistic bard. But dang is it still satisfying to see.

[@SUNC_]

Cherries, musk and sulfur sounds like a banger cologne

[@16Vagabond]

she's so damn proud of herself haha

[@piripimpi2823]

Dont. Mess. With. The. Bard

[@Tydorstus]

Yurgir is lucky there is no college of eloquence.

[@ZeroTheOtter]

I played bard my first play through, I’m amazed at how many battles you can win/avoid by conversing the enemies to just kill themselves. All that time in Xbox live have finally paid off.

[@raistlin3462]

Did Tav just pull a Constantine on a war devil?

[@ryanmcleish1498]

Yes yes she did 😂

[@animathehallowed1380]

Minthara and Halsin: Hey we’re just here for the show, man.

[@victorianoelle9043]

Winners are Shadowheart Gale and Wyll I love their reactions 😂

[@ByrandOfficial]

It's also hilarious that doing this won't break your oath if you are a Paladin of Vengeance (this is how I dealt with Yurgir [granted it took a few tries] as a Paladin of Vengeance).

[@kevindolan9]

Ngl kind of a big missed opportunity for Halsin to react to this. Given he’s a devout Druid he believes in the preservation of all life but at the same time this is a powerful demon so wonder how he’d react to seeing the tav convince him to do suicide.

[@legouchque]

Well demons can't really die while outside of Hells so it doesn't really count as sewering life🤔🤔

[@kevindolan9]

@@legouchque true but he did convince yurgir to end his own life in a way.

[@emeralddragon2980]

It's too bad they didn't have any dialogue for Halsin, because I could imagine some right now, off the top of my head. "First you tame the beasts, then the devils themselves. Will you try gods next, I wonder?"

[@cabbagyboi9129]

This and the spider thing are why Gale is one of my favorite companions.

[@RunKnitCoffee]

I love a good Lore Bard Tav and Gale's reaction to the end of this is my very favorite!

[@hiarus8850]

Harnassed their inner lowtiergod

[@willow6549]

This is what I did in my first play through and I felt so content with myself loll

[@M12GProductions]

Tongue of purest silver. Gale is right to fear me.

[@tripslord9029]

Wyll: Balduran's beard Subtitles: Balduran's bones

[@TheIgdrasil1]

Art of eloquency 😂😂❤

[@Tydorstus]

Too bad we cant have the college if eloqunce. Would be too op

[@heallyos4309]

This is just an average day for Minthara and Halsin I guess

[@Juna067]

The gale one 😂

[@elenalizabeth]

“I am equally terrified and aroused by you” 😂

[@Juna067]

@@elenalizabeth exactly!! 😭

[@elenalizabeth]

@@Juna067 there was another time earlier on in act 2, right after a big fight and my Tav is covered in blood, and Gale the weirdo basically tells Tav he is horny from watching Tav fight and that even in the poor lighting of the Shadows Tav looks sexy 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Time and place Gale. Time and place.

[@elenalizabeth]

@@Juna067 also he says he "doesnt mind your musk" after you tease him about you secretly being a nymph in disguise (he says you can't be as you don't bathe enough) 😂😳🤦‍♀️

[@kevinc62]

Gale is such a horny nerd. Love him

[@zwiebeldogs]

Oh. Astarion warned me that someone lurked in the shadows so I turned heel and sneaked up on them. Then had Balthazars Flesh tank everything for quite a while and then killed them. Still such a hard fight, even with Flesh (who also died). This wouldve been much funnier

[@calebadam2576]

My own fight against Yurgir went very nearly lethally bad on honour difficulty; his extra actions are decidedly no joke.

[@XellosDarkSlayer]

Playing the game for the first time, I backpedaled at the last moment and killed Yurgir in a fight. Because the developers put SO MANY unique interactions in the game, I was honestly not sure if telling him to kill himself will count. And it would be completely in character for Raphael to pull "Technically HE killed HIMSELF and not you killed him, so I own you nothing" card.

[@flakdampler11]

Man I had NO IDEA you could do this! Bravo!

[@lastassassin4443]

It really makes you think is Tav really that persuasive that he could convince a devil to kill himself or is a devil this stupid

[@nathanlamberth7631]

He’s been trying to find out why he hasn’t fulfilled the contract yet after hundreds? of years. He’s desperate, and he knows death will just send him home.

[@lastassassin4443]

And he is going to listen to some random stranger that says he knows the way to break his contract by killing himself dooming him to the very thing he didn’t want to happen dude clearly went crazy or he was just that stupid

[@HeadDetectiveLassie]

Seeing how bard Tav can talk four different bosses in Act 2 into killing themselves one way or the other, they're just that persuasive.

[@lastassassin4443]

That isn’t specific to just Bard Tav every Tav from every class can get the boss’s to kill themselves

[@HeadDetectiveLassie]

@@lastassassin4443 Yeah. I just use Bard Tav since they are most likely to have a really high Charisma score along with Warlock Tav, so successfully pulling all four off is a bit easier AND in character (based on class). So, any high Charisma or lucky Tav (or Durge) really.

[@MrDoot-hj2ir]

WAIT, there is a CUTSCENE????? When my character said it's an ambush, the camera spotted the demon and I said "oop, there he is", so I sent invisible Astarion to their level and sneak attack him so they get Surprised and I have an advantage.

[@captain_hardcog]

There are at least 4 different ways to approach this 1) Sneak up on the devils and counter-ambush them (which you did) 2) Talk to Yurgir and convince him to kill himself 3) Talk to Yurgir and fight it out 4) Either talk to Yurgir or don't, and free Yurgir from his contract by killing the last Justiciar hiding in the temple. Yurgir automatically joins your side in Act III when you invade Raphael's home

[@ToxicSoul03]

KHORNE KHORNE KHORNE KHORNE BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD

[@jordannng7180]

I’m curious. When you go into act 3 and fight Raphael, do you still have a chance of persuading Yurgir to join you if you go this route of convincing him to kill himself? I would think no because he didn’t approve of this

[@singeddryad]

yeah you do, the persuasion dc is just very high

[@FrostyFyre]

Yup. Just makes the DC 30

[@jomag9430]

He also mentions that we bested him in battle... yeah, we totally battled. I guess battle of the tongues... that sounds more romantic than intended

[@chillax319]

@@singeddryad You can? Great. So Astarion will be pleased after all in my playthrough. I wanted Yurgir as my ally during that fight but I also wanted to make him off himself and take that sweet hand crossbow which will be really usefull for my ranged Astarion.

[@chillax319]

@@jomag9430 I mean he is not going to tell anyone that he got convinced to finish himself.

[@magicman25103]

well that clinches it. im absolutely romancing Gale on my Bard run.

[@spynix0718]

Gale just said he was terrified of me.

[@christophercarey165]

I love how you can actually convince someone to kill themselves to avoid a difficult encounter. I failed the final one of the three rolls so I had to kill yurgir myself

[@Fairyhell]

I got to this part as a bard, rolled everything first try lol. They finally good for something

[@RazielTheUnborn]

Archer bard is a nasty damage dealer, watchu mean "finally good for something" 🤣 put more respeck on your bard

[@Kamon181]

My bard hard carried my first playthrough via zone control and heavy armor proficiency. Passing nearly every persuasion/performance check in the game was just a juicy extra.

[@KryptSol]

collage of swords bard works amazingly with pact of the blade warlock and is what I'm currently playing. so far, it's gotten me through so much more than my other two playthroughs did with a different class setup

[@MrStrangeUsername]

act 2 is bard's paradise. you can talk almost all of the major bosses into suicide it's amazing.

[@elenalizabeth]

@@MrStrangeUsername lmao IKR 😂😂 Toll collector: “you just need to KYS” Creepy surgeon: “yeah so I need you to tell your creepy nurses to KYS and then you need to also KYS” Barkeep guy: “yeah so you should drink so much that you KYS” I wasn’t playing a bard, but I had Astarion using his persuasion proficiency to talk them all in to doing it. And he gets inspiration points 😂

[@ShmeengusDingus]

I feel bad for doing this. Wish I could go back and help him

[@ZachariusStorkanus]

Theres another line by astarion not included in this complilation. If hes not present when you see raphael outside of the temple so he never gets to make a deal, his reaction to your actions is positive, amazed.

[@Darth-_-Maul]

There was bug before that make Astarion say that regardless if he made deal or not and i am glad that they fix it

[@llanzabrantcristianruhnebo1213]

So... On my 1st playthrough i decided to explore the area and found this guy but was hostile to me because i went through the back door (the big crack to the right) and just killed everyone. Didnt even know he had a dialogue.

[@kingrobertii231]

Tav’s satisfied reaction is worth the entire video 😂

[@bosunbill9059]

As much as it seems like manipulation on Yugir, this is sorta not. As if Yugir killed us, he will be stuck with Rapheal's contract song playing 24/7 in his head rent free. In the House of Hope while he did returned back to Rapheal's fold by force, the song did stop. At least it is better than being stuck in Shar's temple listening to Rapheal on loop.

[@firefly5677]

I love Gale so much 😂

[@larsbohmer6319]

I got Gale's reaction, which according with my Character I played out, was more fitting given him

[@jettx123]

poor kitty :(

[@ozone4959]

Bruh I got him out of his contract only for him to bargain a better deal with Raphael after 🙄 I was like did bro not learn his lesson the first time???

[@ErzengelDesLichtes]

Since he never clawed his way out of avernus to kill us, I guess we were right?

[@AngryBudgieNoises]

Poor Nessa

[@HorrorTuuletin]

I hate how we don't even have a chance to let HIM kill the last sharran.

[@chabot4006]

Your character should look like low tier god during this dialogue.

[@Pavi132]

Wait, you can TALK TO HIM?!

[@doomtooth74]

I mean, would the contract still not be fulfilled if the group didnt die. They heard the song, so wouldnt the way to fulfill the contract be to kill the party, then kill himself?

[@shovelenthusiast7389]

When my Tav romanced Shadowheart, I had some dirty innuendos scratching my tongue after her remark about my dangerous silver tongue.

[@firestorm165]

Yep, my paladin/cleric of Selune was like "That's not the only thing this silver tongue can do"

[@WhomerlockwoodsChannel]

There's also a different Astarion reaction if you don't make a deal with Raphael ^^

[@awitchx]

yep I forgot to include that one but it's here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6vchoR_psh3aq8si=XO9IGELWZIGVeIGi

[@alanarunmavath6005]

Why would anyone kill him. As soon as i heard rapheal was a little scared. I searched everywhere but that room to see if i could befriend him. Saw some weird rats killed them with spirit guardians and then came a suit of armour killed that too. I thought i failed and went into the room after finding nothing. Dide was rude but thanked me for silencing the song. Then i went a read the wiki on what happened lol.

[@ikmkr]

did this stunt with my CLERIC. god above was that moment so, so very worth it heehoo

[@ajzekind]

I played a Knowledge Domain cleric, which makes conversations fantastic, and I can say it was hilarious for the cleric to walk away, hands clean, from this encounter. Channel Divinity is a godsend.

[@ikmkr]

@@ajzekind i may or may not have just rawdogged it with a proficiency in persuasion, 14 cha, and one very very lucky tempest cleric

[@ajzekind]

@@ikmkr Dang. That's intense. Knowledge is kind of a cheese for most of the conversation-heavy encounters (if you have enough Channel points). The only encounter I didn't use my cleric for was the Gold-laden boss in Act 2, where I had Wyll go sniper with Eldritch Blast and knock them several stories, multiple times.

[@ikmkr]

@@ajzekind may or may have not talked that one to death, too, i hoarded so many inspirations

[@ajzekind]

@@ikmkr I didn't have to hoard much on the inspiration front. With Karlach and Astarion in tow, those two were a fount of inspiration by doing wacky crap and talking my way through things.

[@frogimon]

Wait you can talk to him 😭😭😭 I’ve ALWAYS just ambushed him lmfao

[@legit6353]

LowTierAdventure be like:

[@kevin11dolla]

Idk why when i entered the temple and in the room i didnt get any cutscene and it just started a fight

[@Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia]

Low Tier Tav

[@cakeyeater7392]

I never got dialogue with him. then again, I didn't realize he was related to Raphael. I just wanted the jewel

[@morsalo123]

If I convinced Yurgir to kill his company, but fought against him myself, does he return in act 3 during the boss fight against Raphael? Because that's how I handled this situation.

[@theravenlordmasterofthevib8991]

He appears regardless of outcome

[@jack-boe8751]

I heard a bard is the best and easy choice

[@homicidalgeorge]

lowtiertav

[@darkcreatures]

Do you have to be a bard to do this or can it be done by a different dialogue option?

[@awitchx]

no need! but you need to pass a passive insight check after you hear the song to get this option (it's a free pass for bard)

[@АндрейГолодников-п4и]

Also warlock can do it too@@awitchx

[@hjblacdes61]

And I mean it with %100 with %1000

[@magicfoogieA]

What is that gorgeous outfit on Gale???

[@awitchx]

protecty sparkswall in grymforge!

[@gabagoooby]

He got LTG'd

[@schokomitnussen4289]

Why didnt the cutscene trigger on my playtru. I have a feeling I missed so much because of bugs.

[@AkaiCrimson]

I didn’t get it myself because I believe I killed the last Justiciar before meeting Yugir. It’s possible that you did the same as me.

[@elenalizabeth]

@@AkaiCrimson so then you just have to fight Yurgir? I’m wondering if killing the last justiciar means Astarion gets mad at you? 🤔

[@jericho620]

​@@elenalizabeth Astarion will only be screwed over if you kill the Justiciar before meeting Yurgir. Otherwise, if you want to progress Astarion's romance, and get the loot from the Justiciar, kill Yurgir first and then deal with the Justiciar afterwards. I accidentally did it the first way round on my first playthrough, and Raphael didn't end up telling Astarion anything about his scars when he came back to visit.

[@elenalizabeth]

@@jericho620 doesn’t he learn about the scars from the Necromancy of Thay book though?

[@AkaiCrimson]

@@elenalizabeth he gets mad at you if you tell Yurgir that you killed them because then Yurgir is free to go and Astarion can’t get what he wants from Raphael

[@tairrendaly5855]

Question, Did it count? 🤔😆

[@linksstruepower7443]

When i went through this scene, Astarion was in my party. My genuine reaction was "Who the fuck are you to question me, you albino poof?! Just shut up and let me do the talking!"

[@beng9661]

I want to like Astarion (that seems to be most people's opinion of him) but "shut the fuck up kid, the adults are talking" is my gut instinct reaction to virtually everything he says. Don't care that he's a vampire spawn. Don't care that he tries to ambush you 1st thing when you meet him or sneakily suck your blood at night; perfectly understandable character flaws. But every god damned time he backtalks my characters decision on some shit he's got no clue about, I reaaaally gotta resist staking the ungrateful little shit.

[@saribeepo.o5111]

@@beng9661 What are you doing to have him mistrust your character so? I've only see him back talk my Durge this time, and like one other, both of which seemed reasonable to me, seeing as I didn't murder everyone. So, his experience on my runs has always lined up with the fact that IF my Durge didn't care for him that much (which Astarion is sure is the case even if he's being romanced), that there is a good chance that he will side against him, and with the Orthon/sacrifices. So... yeah, can't blame him that Laurien didnt' give the PC a chance to use the tadpole to reassure him (like it does with Wyll when you negotiate with Mizora on his behalf )

[@beng9661]

@@saribeepo.o5111 First some context stuff. I recently finished my first BG3 run taking Astarion as a consistent party member, and I did warm to him over the course of the game. He's not in my top three characters for various reasons, but in the end I liked him and was glad I finished a run with him. As far as the mistrust, it's not a thing my character did so much as a thing my character consistently does. I exclusively play CRPG's to be a big damn hero and save everyone I can. Nuance and flawed characters and etc is excellent and necessary in many media, but not in this kind of game for me. That's a personal hang up for me that I'm sure resonates with some, but prolly not most people. So Astarions constant complaints about my characters actions (such as when deaing with Yurgir) are suuuch an off putting wet blanked on everything. Oh, your character is here because he lives for this shit ? Not Astarion, Astarion believes in nothing, has aspirations for nothing but power, and can never see past the end of his point aristocratic nose. It's tiresome. But! I still believe he's a net positive to the game, he's an excellently acted and very well written character, and I'm glad he's in my game and overjoyed for all the players who feel a deep connection for him. I'd just like him to recognize when I do some cool shit, like talk a demon into killing itself, because that is baller. Ummm... I don't know about "using the tadpole to calm him down" though. That sounds pretty... well I don't want to offend you or overstep over some internet video game discussion so I won't comment further. But I think using tadpole powers on someone in the way you're describing is not consistent with the kind of character I'd play, especially directed against Astarion whose whole deal is that he's had his personal agency stolen for centuries. A dialogue option that's like "sush Astarion, I got this, *wink* would be cool. Using mind powers to make him... more compliant is not a direction I'd want to see except for a really-really evil run, and that sort of game isn't my bag anyway.

[@saribeepo.o5111]

@@beng9661 ah, I got you. He probably back sasses a bit less for me, because with Durge runs, I've mostly had him start somewhere in the middle/conflicted range of morality. That probably balances it out on my runs where he's come across a bit more like cheeky commentary. Plus with Durge there's the whole 'fellow monsters' angle that probably grants Astarion a bit more grace with such a character. I can definitely see how, on a full throttle hero run that it could hit different, depending on the hero's background. To clarify on one thing, I didn't mean to use it to like control him. I don't know if you've triggered it, but the Wyll thing, the tadpole was mostly just used to have a quick 'private chat', to reassure him that what the PC is doing isn't something that's going to screw him over. It's basically just a 'don't worry, I got you'. That's what I meant, just something to let Astarion know, the PC's fishing for information he/she might be able to use, not angling to save the devil.... Well you know, unless they are.

[@beng9661]

@@saribeepo.o5111 Yup, indeed it do! But after taking him along for a full campaign I can say that initial complaint comes down to more of a quibble, and I ended up valuing his personality and arc as Act 3 progressed. For your second point, I'm sorry! I totally misread your statement, I do remember now what you mean about the pseudo-telepathy speak between the PC and Wyll during the negotiations with Mizora questiline. Got ya now, and absolutely agree. THanks for the good discussion.

[@ChaoticUrges]

I thought this was a Palidan thing

[@Darth-_-Maul]

I thought it was dark urge thing

[@deezmo2022]

i never got this conversation everyone was immediately hostile towards me :C

[@Atmapalazzo]

I find it weird that the game implies that there's a trick in the song, only for there very much not to be.

[@joshbell1335]

Gales is the best 😂