Aerothan Inner Tubes by Schwalbe - tested and reviewed

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Always Another Adventure

Always Another Adventure

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@samuelkmaina
@samuelkmaina 3 жыл бұрын
What an honest review. If more cycling vloggers were as honest about products, the industry would definitely raise its game and provide cyclist with better products.
@davelewis753
@davelewis753 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I've had several of these tubes, and was pleased enough with them at first. However, two have now failed. The first failure was in the rear tube, immediately after refitting it in a new tyre. On close inspection in water, it had several (around a dozen!) tiny holes, all on the rim side of the tube! The rim and rim strip are both sound, so I don't believe that was the issue, and there was no debris or grit inside the tyre, either. Schwalbe replaced the tube and that one has recently failed as well, after around 1500 miles. Both failures were when the bike was parked up, luckily. Like the reviewer, I found them impossible to repair, too, despite following the instructions for the Schwalbe glueless patches. The recent failure was worse than the first one, as the seal where the valve joins the tube had split, as well as again having multiple tiny holes on the rim side! There was no damage to the tyre (Energiser Plus 622-50) in either case. I've now switched back to a Vittoria latex tube in the rear, and I'll replace the front Aerothan (which has covered around 2500 miles without issue, so far) with a latex one, as soon as it arrives. The plus points of Aerothans are: they do roll well compared to butyl tubes (but still not as well as latex!), and due to holding their shape, they can be run well down into the tubeless tyre pressure range. I found they felt rock hard at 40psi, so I ran them at 28 front and rear. I run the latex tubes at 42/40 front and rear, and they are both faster than the Aerothans, and noticeably more comfortable, too. They're also £14 each, so a good saving, plus you can actually repair them. They lose up to 15% air in 24 hours, but I pump my tyres before every ride, so I don't find this an issue, to be honest. I suspect the Aerothans may vary in build quality? I also noticed that the Aerothan tubes for my 50mm tyres were under 1" in diameter once they'd had a little air put in for fitting(!), so they had to stretch to twice that to fill the tyre carcass once installed. Not sure if that might be an issue, as the unstretched material is very thin to start with(?), but as I ride mainly at night, I'm definitely through with Aerothan inner tubes :( I just don't trust them anymore, and at £50 a pair they're not cheap! As long as you're careful fitting them, I think latex tubes are a better option as far as performance upgrades go. In my experience, they offer similar comfort and speed to a tubeless setup, too.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Dave. I’m going to try some Tubolitos soon
@sventice
@sventice 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brutally honest review. I was considering these tubes despite my concerns about the questionable valve stems, but now I'll definitely stick to lightweight butyl tubes and good tires for puncture protection and decent rolling resistance. As mentioned already, weight is not of ultimate importance past a reasonable point. It's a bit futile to obsess over a 60-100g difference between inner tubes, or 2-5w of rolling resistance for that matter, while riding around on a 10kg gravel bike with a rucksack that has 2-3kg of stuff in it, especially after eating a giant omelet and drinking four cups of coffee.
@moobaz8675
@moobaz8675 3 жыл бұрын
Credibility is based on honesty. Great write up. I’ll stick to tubeless and my conti inner tubes.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
EDIT: Updated video here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbPZWl-edpqnMk I hesitated before publishing this video because I like Schwalbe tyres and, in particular, because some successful, well known cyclists are saying great things about these inner tubes. I even sent a copy of the video to Schwalbe's distributor several weeks ago to check whether I was doing anything wrong, but received no response. However, it seems I'm not alone in my findings - Road CC also tested the tubes: road.cc/content/review/schwalbe-aerothan-inner-tube-277797
@SJ-tk4ri
@SJ-tk4ri 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of Schwalbe tyres and have run them tubeless on a couple of wheelsets with no issues. I only carry tubes for emergencies and I’m certainly not tempted to fork out that kind of money purely for that purpose (regardless of reliability or otherwise). Good, honest review.
@VictorElGreco
@VictorElGreco 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the puncture protection we need (or rather *get*) comes from the tires and not from the inner tubes. A sturdy set of Conti Gatorskins or Bontrager AW is the better deal, I think.
@BC-wj8fx
@BC-wj8fx 3 жыл бұрын
I tried one of these. On my second ride I picked up the tiniest piece of steel wire which made a hole smaller than a pin-prick. The tube deflated in seconds. None of the claimed "the material itself prevents sudden air loss". However I simply used a cheap standard glueless patch to get me back home. I wiped the tube as clean as I could and used the sandpaper in the patch kit. I am not sure how long the patch would have lasted because the tube failed days later due to rim tape failure, blowing through one of the spoke holes. I believe surface prep is very important for repair. I would carry some cleaning solvent like alcohols or acetone and also rough the surface with sandpaper. The tubes are "100% recyclable" but without a marking showing the material, I can't imagine the recycling plant undergoing testing or research to reclaim 45 grams (minus valve) of unknown material. They will surely discard it. If Schwalbe could name the material we would have more chance of repairing and recycling.
@pavlovzdog
@pavlovzdog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty, my answer would be..... "Not on your nelly" I'll stick with normal tubes. Saying that my friend has just been experimenting with Muc-Off tubeless set up. Judging from from the experience, I think I will be trying that going forward. Ride and stay safe 👍🏻🚴🏼‍♀️🚴🏼‍♀️
@ianrobertson8514
@ianrobertson8514 3 жыл бұрын
I used Tubilotos over 4,000km last year inside GP5000s with one puncture. Unlike your experience with the Schwalbe the bespoke Tubolito patch went on without a problem and has held since. Interestingly, and very positively, when I did puncture at speed the tube didn't let go violently like a butyl despite being holed by an impregnated thorn. They are not cheap and they are a pain to fit but, on balance, I plan on continuing with them.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I need to get some to try. Thanks Ian.
@sandydennylives1392
@sandydennylives1392 Жыл бұрын
I wasted money on gp 5000's and they flatted every ride of a mile or more. Now rotting in my shed. Conti only for inner tubes now.
@marksmith566
@marksmith566 3 жыл бұрын
Good honest review and because of this I and I suspect others will trust you over many others 👍
@n22pdf
@n22pdf 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent honest review.. I use tubeless on my MTB but stick with Conti tubes for the road..
@therealdelboy
@therealdelboy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, Simon. Given the price, a natural assumption would be that they would be repairable with traditional patch kits, but as you’ve shown, that doesn’t look possible so they’re a dead duck as far as I’m concerned.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
It's not meant to be repairable with traditional kit, but the patches I used were supplied with the tubes as the correct means of mixing them.
@mikemcgrath6992
@mikemcgrath6992 3 жыл бұрын
Great review , I’m a big fan of Schwalbe tyres I run a set of Hans Dampf EVO TLE on my mtb and a set of Land Cruiser K Guard on my gravel bike both with Schwalbe inner tubes especially impressed with the Land Cruisers considering the lower price no punctures so far I agree £25 would be a none starter for me .
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I use Schwalbe tyres too - the Durano DD are great in winter, I took a pair of Ones off my road bike and I have their gravel tyre. I can't explain why these inners perform as they do.
@johnmcpake9587
@johnmcpake9587 3 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased Tannus Armour Inserts for my Gravel bike after some tubeless disasters in poor weather. So far I can't fault them. 🤞🤞
@paulhadfield8006
@paulhadfield8006 3 жыл бұрын
When i go bike touring i use the slime smart tube heavy but it gives you peace of mind
@Neohurricane
@Neohurricane 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review . TBH i would never consider spending that amount on an inner tube unless they were guaranteed puncture proof, clearly they are far from that.
@PatrickZasada
@PatrickZasada 2 жыл бұрын
I had four of them and all failed after half a year. The valve became leaky on all of them and on one of the tubes the welding seam has burst.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 2 жыл бұрын
Crikey Patrick - that's worse than my experience!
@Niloc1922
@Niloc1922 3 жыл бұрын
I use the old model as a backup inner tube for my MTB which is tubeless. Haven't had to use it yet so I don't know how it performs, it just makes me feel better.
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 3 жыл бұрын
I did buy 3 of these tubes and yes the cost did hurt a bit. I installed one on my road bike front wheel because that is where the less weight and forces are in comparison to what a rear wheel gets. I pumped both wheels up to 90 psi and I noticed right away that the front tire was harder than my rear tire was. I am using latex tubes in the rear. I use the Bontrager R3 25C road tires. I rode these for quite a few miles and kept stopping to let air out of the front because it just felt harsh. I ended up going with 100 psi in the rear and 80 psi in the front which seems to have evened thing out. I also carry one of the Aerothan tubes in my bag to use as a spare if I happened to flat. Overall using two Aerothans saves some weight and if the front wheel seems to be pretty durable I may stick the other Areothan tube in the rear wheel. I got burned on the new Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless tires because they had a road buzz at high speed on smooth surfaces that drove me crazy. Schwalbe sent me two new tires when I complained about it but those tires did the same thing. I went back to the Bontrager. I don't know why I decided to get these Aerothan tubes but I thought I'd give Schwable one more chance since the marketing hype was so good. I was kind of sad about your review but I'm happy you're telling the truth.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sad about it too. Have you tried sticking a patch on an aerothan tube, even if you don't need to, just so you know whether it could be repaired? I'd be delighted to hear my experience was the exception, but I fear not.
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure I have some of the glueless patches from Lezyne I could try. I have not purchased the type you used, thank goodness. You would think that the Folks at Schwalbe would have tested their own patches on the tubes and figured this out already. The fact that they continue to sell the patches doesn't give me much faith in their other products either.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
@@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 The instructions said regular glueless patches won't work, so best not. I still struggle to believe that Schwalbe haven't full tested and sorted this before release. I can hardly comprehend that me and the reviewer at Road.CC found something that a big business like Schwalbe did not! I wrote tot heir importer and had the link to this video hidden since January so they could see and respond to my findings, fully expecting them to say, "you did that wrong". I like Schwalbe stuff - their Durano DD winter tyres are on my road bike, I have Schwalbe on my gravel bike too, and I am utterly baffled as to why this isn't working. I'd love to post a follow-up to this video saying 'I was wrong'.
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure If they respond I'd be interested in what they say also. Like I said earlier, when I had a problem with the new road tires they took care of me quickly and without problem. That is why I decided to give another chance. If these tubes turn out to be a disaster for Schwalbe it will be a shame because they do seem like a good company. One other thing I thought about and wanted to mention, I came from mainly a mountainbike background. When tubeless tires punctured and I patched the inside of the tire patches did not stick well there either. What I used to do was apply a coating of RTV black Silicone over top of the patch. Of coarse it needs a day to dry thoroughly but it never failed to work and never peeled off. Maybe this might work on these tubes.
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Schwalbe may have stopped producing these tubes because they show no inventory on their website. Also they show a higher price than what I paid at the time of my purchase approximately 6 months ago. They are about $40 US dollars now. Who in their right mind would consider paying that much. Most people would barely pay that much for a tire. What is Schwalbe thinking? I did have the one Aerothan tube I was using in the front go flat from a pinch flat and the damage was to large to even attempt a repair. I am using the latex tubes again and just carrying the Aerothan tube for the side of the road fixes.
@alanhill7965
@alanhill7965 3 жыл бұрын
I have the tubolito inner tubes,the repair patches are a glue on job and work very well
@hendriksiering9077
@hendriksiering9077 3 жыл бұрын
same here...Got really fast puncture, even with brand new tires... Tried to patch them, but after 1h, the patch got loose again... Doesn´t roll better than extralight tubes... Doesn´t resist punctures better...but therefore you can´t patch it! For the 3 aerothan tubes, i would have get 9 extra light tubes, patch able and reuse able!
@AdamBikepacking
@AdamBikepacking 7 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for the review. I have been gravel riding the 10,550km Iron Curtain Trail and after about 6,000 km (on Schwalbe Marathon tires with regular tubes) had not experienced any problems. I switched to a different equipped with Pirelli tires and Aerothan tubes - had a first flat (rear wheel) after about 800 km. I could not find any meaningful reason - I just got off the trail and rode 100 meters on plain grass. I am not sure if the tires or the tubes are to blame. In any case.. I fixed the flat with a regular patch but continued my ride on a regular inner tube. Watching this makes me question if this whole experiment makes sense. The ride is surely smooth but at what price? Am a bit nervous riding with only this Aerothan as a spare... Otherwise I have always been extremely satisfied with my Schwalbe tires. Luckily, on the next 2,500km I have been OK so far.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 6 күн бұрын
I hope they’ve improved since I made this old video. There are lots of good (better?) plastic tubes around now.
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 2 жыл бұрын
I have Revoloop tubes in my fatbike. They gave a huge weight reduction on a bike that would have needed new rims to run tubeless. I'm happy with them but they do seem sensitive to grit left in the tire, something that doesn't cause an issue for butyl tubes. The patches are not the best solution to punctures, a drop of cyanoacrylate seems to be a more permanent solution. That's not going to work on bigger holes though, maybe crazy-glueing a patch on would work?
@geoffreyking7189
@geoffreyking7189 3 жыл бұрын
I paid 31.00 (USD) for my aerothans -- four times what I have paid for Schwable's standard tubes. I have used schwable's Marathon tires for 15 years. I do some 80% of my riding in Brooklyn and Queens -- the DOD could use this area as an industrial testing ground for inner tubes. Having said that, I have had precisely *one flat tire* in the last 10 years. Three weeks after installing my Aerothans, I got a flat tire. I was and am a pissed monkey. You decide. I have: Schwable is over-hyping the aerothans. Sometimes new isn't better, and I'm back to the standard inner tubes.
@drsus0
@drsus0 3 жыл бұрын
I run tubeless and carrying a bulky ( not so much the weight for me) inner tube in the saddle bag when I’d rather have the spare room for tubeless stuff, is where there’s super light but more importantly super small Inner tubes come in for me. With tubeless i only carry an inner tube for the worst case scenario, when ill have to use one if all else fails on my tubeless, so I really only need to finish my ride or just get me home. For this purpose, a $25 inner tune that takes up 1/3 the space and makes it much easier to let me get to all the other stuff i actually need in my bag when running tubeless, the tubolito or aerothan are the perfect answer. Basically, I don’t need the best puncture protection, I need the space and back up plan.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@brianduff5446
@brianduff5446 3 жыл бұрын
Love all this trying to save a few grams when what I need really need to do is lose some weight 😢love the honest reviews on your channel
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I know, it's hilarious really. It's the big bag of water astride the frame from which most weight could go 😁
@carina_e2003
@carina_e2003 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using tubolitos since last year. So far I only punctured one tube. Used the official tubolito patch kit which, unfortunately, only lasted me a few rides. After that the succeeding patches I installed failed completely. My advice: if you plan to buy either tubolitos or the ones from schwalbe, make it a point to use the most puncture resistant tyres you can get. Or you can kiss your expensive tubes goodbye
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but it defeats the object of having light inner tubes if your tyres are really heavy.
@carina_e2003
@carina_e2003 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure sad, but true. The puncture happened when I was using my Vittoria tyres. Switched back to my GP4000s and have been puncture- free so far (knock on wood)
@orestissophocleous8846
@orestissophocleous8846 3 жыл бұрын
Great honest video! Could you do a review of the new 35g Pirelli Smart Tube next?
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really review tyres / tubes - these just happened to come my way. However, if I get any Pirelli I'll happily give it a go.
@SimonCurrey
@SimonCurrey Жыл бұрын
I saw somewhere they are repairable but its essential to clean with alchol. I am running challenge tyres notorious for difficult set up. The minimal size simplifies the install. XP pro elite. It's a 4 season tyre so my untested theory is to avoid punctures! The overall weight and rolling resistance being better than a race with butyl tube.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure Жыл бұрын
Hi Simon - I tried that in the updated test, linked in the video description kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbPZWl-edpqnMk
@SimonCurrey
@SimonCurrey Жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure thank you so much. I like your delivery. I am not an expert but I recently posted this on my folding bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6WwopRuoZ6VZq8
@user-ow1jh8yb5j
@user-ow1jh8yb5j 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an honest review
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Always!
@jaspreetsidhu5708
@jaspreetsidhu5708 3 жыл бұрын
My question with these tubes is did you still do the same procedure you would with a normal tube (use something abrasive), and then apply the contact cement/patch?
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jaspreet - no I didn't follow the procedure as I would with a normal tube. Instead I followed the instructions which came with the aerothan which say not to use abrasive. Check the follow-up video to see how I did finally manage to make them work.
@czeckson74
@czeckson74 3 жыл бұрын
I´ve only done 1 ride (with 50km) on my pair, but no troubles so far.
@babyrabies
@babyrabies 2 жыл бұрын
try revoloop patches, they stick on instantly, super durable and very very hard to peel off. However u must get it right the first time due to its sticky nature, else u risk tearing the tube if u decided to peel it out and restick. It works across all brands of TPU tubes. Tested on revoloops, tubolitos and the chinese version called RideNow. Works like a charm
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@kevinrowe456
@kevinrowe456 3 жыл бұрын
That’s serious money for an inner tube, I think I’ll stick with Continental Race or Race Light, although I think they are enough money for what they are. Thanks for the honest review, great vlog once again...
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 3 жыл бұрын
Been running Vittoria Latex for two years now. Touch wood, no punctures, supple ride.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I tried latex tubes and they're good but remember they can't be inflated with CO2 cartridges. Well, they can, but they deflate quickly because the CO2 molecules escape through the latex. (Unless the tubes have changed since I used them).
@normanzielke6108
@normanzielke6108 3 жыл бұрын
Have ever run latex tubes? Would love to know how they compare. Latex tubes are around 10 quid, but quite tricky to install. After all, I would pay triple the price if they are less of a hassle as I would only use them in my race wheels.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I have used them briefly Norman. They tend to be faster but they don't hold air as well and need topping up more regularly. Plus if you use a CO2 inflator for punctures, they don't stay inflated because the gas molecules penetrate the latex. Sean might know more as they tend to be a race thing.
@RohanTheBT
@RohanTheBT 3 жыл бұрын
£25 for an inner tube! That’s what I pay for my Schwalbe Marathon tyres for my chair. Loved the view up the Great Glen when you were sitting outside the Ardgour Hotel
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Those Marathon tyres are everyone's favourites for long distance, tough use
@AndrewWebber66
@AndrewWebber66 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting one as a 'get home' option if my tubeless failed. Maybe it would just get me a bit further...
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
That would be the best way to use it Andrew - as a light weight get-home tube.
@TheWeardale1
@TheWeardale1 3 жыл бұрын
good video, and good timing... as I'm awaiting delivery of my new canyon neuron e-mtb, and was investigating going tubeless with it. and i emailed Canyon and it turns out they supplied Iridium 30 rims aren't tubeless compatible, whereas the fitted tyres are (Schwalbe Nobby Nic SuperTrail Speedgrip, 29x2.6". Super Trail version, Tubeless Easy version)... so, looking at a decent tube version now...thinking of some kind of inner tube protector like - Panaracer Flataway Kevlar Puncture Protection, Zefal Z-Liner Tyre Liner, mr tuffy tire liner (hard to get a hold of), and a Slime Smart MTB Inner Tube... or even the tannus armor solution... any ideas?
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I don't. In fact I haven't heard of most of those! Sounds like more stuff to try out...
@TheWeardale1
@TheWeardale1 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure yes, the slime smart inner tube does seem a very good deal at around £6-7 each and guarantee'd for 2 years...but would like some kind of protection like Panaracer Flataway Kevlar Puncture Protection, Zefal Z-Liner Tyre Liner, mr tuffy tire liner to support it.. :)
@detmer87
@detmer87 3 жыл бұрын
Tried plastic inner tubes but found them too fragile. I stick with latex tubes with some sealant in them. My new bike is tubeless but time will tell how I like it.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan - remember latex tubes can't be inflated with CO2 cartridges. Well, they can, but they deflate quickly because the CO2 molecules escape through the latex. (Unless the tubes have changed since I used them).
@ChristopheMICLO
@ChristopheMICLO 3 жыл бұрын
moreover, only available with a length of 41 mm .... so for high carbon wheels, you have to install a valve extender, something even more risky given the fragility of the valve ...
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. They'd never fit into my summer wheels without an extender. I didn't look to see if the core could come out...
@ChristopheMICLO
@ChristopheMICLO 3 жыл бұрын
​@@alwaysanotheradventure yes the same problem as me, and i don't want to take the risk to use a valve extender...
@JohnMorawietz
@JohnMorawietz 2 жыл бұрын
you needed to clean the mold release agent of the inner tube before applying the patch, with rubbing alcohol.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, tried that in the follow-up video. It wasn't too successful, not something carried routinely in kit, not in the instructions, and the very opposite of convenient,
@oldskier695
@oldskier695 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and Thankyou!!!!
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@danhardisty1
@danhardisty1 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, I would not pay that for inner tubes. I have tried the peel and stick patches for regular old rubber inner tubes, and they did not work for me if I used my fingers to apply them. I finally read the instructions (I can't remember the brand) and used my pocket knife to peel them off and I did get one to work that way.
@milkdud3618
@milkdud3618 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@snorristurluson9679
@snorristurluson9679 3 жыл бұрын
i'm running Tubolitos for 8 Month now on my 650B Wheelset with no issues whatsoever, i was sceptical before but must say they do well even on Mtb Singletracks. Would i buy them again ? Probably not, too expensive for little better ride feel. I'm no Fan of tubeless because i switch tyres sometimes two times a week dependig of what i 'm going to ride. To much hassle... And i don't like Schwalbe at all...
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Hi - thanks for that. Have you tried patching the Tubolitos, not necessarily for a repair, but just to see if the patches would stick to the plastic surface?
@snorristurluson9679
@snorristurluson9679 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure not, yet, my last punkture was before the Tubolitos but i will try if the patches work. Some one said the Parktool patches are good also for plastic Tubes..
@bikepackingadventure7913
@bikepackingadventure7913 3 жыл бұрын
I use tubilito tubes as an emergency backup for my tubeless system. The reason I use them over rubber tubes is because of the space saving and low weight. I carry 2 tubilitos as backup. I would not buy them if I used them normally as everyday tubes. The tubes you have reviewed today, I’ll give those a miss I think 🤔😐
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Good strategy for tubeless backup
@johnpowell9174
@johnpowell9174 3 жыл бұрын
I have had Tubolitos on my road bike since last summer (don't use it in the winter) and so far, no punctures so have not tested the proprietary patches. On my off-road bike (running tubeless) I have been doing the same as you since last summer -Tubolito as a backup because they take up so little space.
@Dogsdoodas
@Dogsdoodas 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and honestly to boot.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@tommoreton1888
@tommoreton1888 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had seen this video before my local bike shop convinced me to change to these inner tubes because I ended up with a flat tyre after 1 bloody ride. My advice to anyone considering these…. Don’t bother
@872521
@872521 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded on the "honesty" quotient. IMHO, most self-adhering patches are dodgy and temporary as the patch is, afterall, a piece of tape... I have always used 2 patches for each puncture. The first is sacrificial and is meant to clean the tube of any 'parting' or molding compound of the tube AND the tire. The second, or occasionally the third, becomes the patch. Always carry a bit of tape, other than the "patch", to clean the tube. Don't trash the tube but use it as an emergency replacement in your seat bag. Enjoy! Your ride!
@LTSELIGIUS
@LTSELIGIUS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using them en repaird one without any problems :-)
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great! What am I doing wrong please???
@LTSELIGIUS
@LTSELIGIUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure I don't know. The first time it didn't hold (punctured by nail and mend it on the road, it did get me home) but the day after it lost air again, the patch become loose. I tried it a second time cleaned the tube, sand it, make sure it's dry and place the pad. it's already holding over a week.
@davidgallop654
@davidgallop654 3 жыл бұрын
If I was lighter I might be tempted to buy the tubes , but at £50 a wheel set it’s no way, and can’t be fixed when punctured ! I will save my money!
@deanryder4922
@deanryder4922 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with tubolito tubes.It seems that these new thermoplastic inner tubes all have the same issues when it comes to patching them up is they don’t work .Enough said don’t wast your money on these lightweight tubes.
@Oslohiker
@Oslohiker 3 жыл бұрын
You have to clean the area with alcohol before you put the patch on. Yes, I have bought them, and I'll never go back to anything else.
@Bikes-guitars
@Bikes-guitars 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the Tubolito’s and found them to be rather poor, it’s the first time I’ve punctured in 5 years, I could have been unlucky I suppose, but they were only 10 grams lighter than a Continental supersonic which I actually found to be more comfortable, and they are only 1/3 of the cost, also rolling resistance tests had the Continental supersonic slightly outperforming these thermoplastic tubes, hardly surprising really, the very nature of that thermoplastic material is hard and inflexible, I wouldn’t bother with them again, in my opinion there are no benefits to them.
@jameshallworth8053
@jameshallworth8053 3 жыл бұрын
The only Schwalbe tyres I've every really been able to get along with were the amazing Marathon XR expedition tyres. Ever Schwalbe I've ever put on my race bike of mountainbike has been a disappointment. Continental have always proved to be a better choice both for performance and sustainability.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Their Marathon tyres are very popular! That said, I like the Schwalbe Durano DDs I have on my bike now fir winter. No punctures and great grip, albeit a little heavy.
@edmccall390
@edmccall390 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t say that I would pay that much for an inner tube. If my currency converter is correct, that is about $34.88 USD.
@HughDWallace
@HughDWallace 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a weight-weenie at the best of time but to save 100g (a pair) from the tubes I generally use (the same Conti heavyweight ones you feature in the video) at the cost of a £40 increase in price... that will be a no from me! And if they are not puncture proof or patchable then they are completely useless as far as I am concerned. Back to the drawing board, Schwalbe!
@grumpynerd
@grumpynerd 3 жыл бұрын
My repair experience with the similar but even more expensive Revoloops is better, but not by much. The revoloop patch kit comes with alcohol swabs (as does, I think tubolito's kit), and you use this to get the tube absolutely clean. I believe even the oils from your hand can compromise adhesion. The patches definitely stick, but at pressures over 40 PSI/4.75 bar the pressure of the leak channels under the patch to the patch's edge and the repair fails. Out of three patching attempts, only one was able to hold, and that one I kept clamped for 24 hours -- not practical for a road repair. I do not expect any TPU inner tube patch kit to work much better, since they all pretty much just give you the same kind of patch you use on other TPU items, like air mattresses. I think this technology is repairable in low pressure applications, like mountain bikes, but is essentially not reliably repairable for high pressure applications like road bike tires. Now for rubber tubes I have found glueless patch systems much less reliable than ones that use vulcanizing solution (essentially rubber cement with additives that form molecular bonds between the patch and tire). This presents a problem because increasingly LBS's are only stocking glueless patches. Possibly TPU might be reliably repairable with some kind of solution that works similarly on TPU to vulcanizing glue on on rubber.
@gcsScotland
@gcsScotland 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me £25 👍👍👍
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help Graham
@elchram
@elchram 3 жыл бұрын
I just went tubeless on my gravel wheelset and my road wheelset. I am very happy with it. Tubes for 5 pounds in my saddle bag if I would run into a unfixable puncture on the way.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Tubeless is a great system if you can make it work for you.
@elchram
@elchram 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysanotheradventure Btw, I really like your videos! Especially the beginner videos helped me out when I started cycling as a sport last September!
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
@@elchram Thank you - that's great to hear. Thanks for taking the time to write.
@mikejoseph425
@mikejoseph425 3 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of Schwalbe and swear by Marathon Plus and I have never experienced a puncture and I ride 7000 miles a year. I am waiting for a Marathon Plus Tubeless to be introduced Tried other tubeless tyres and they are OK until you get a larger puncture and even though one can seal with various plugs, they never last. It seems to me the big mistake is to think you can use rubber that is not resilient just because they are tubeless
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of Schwalbe tyres too Mike - those are Schwalbe DD on the bike and I use the gravel ones. Just a shame about these tubes.
@WanderingSword
@WanderingSword 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to give either these or the tubolito a go, but then your vid convinced me otherwise. thanks
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
There's a mix of opinion and experience in the Comments. People seem to like the Tubolito as a back-up to tubeless.
@ironphil69
@ironphil69 3 жыл бұрын
My dear vlogger, these inner tubes are NOT for RIM BRAKE wheels:-). Just saw this in another review.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Philipp - thanks very much for taking the time to comment. I do my best to check details like this before posting videos, and if you check Schwelbe's Aerothan FAQ you'll find the following: 'All Aerothan tubes are approved for rim brakes'. It's here if you'd like to check for yourself. Thanks again for commenting 😁 www.schwalbetires.com/aerothan/
@rsrnsrwds
@rsrnsrwds 3 жыл бұрын
No chance I'd pay that much for them. And at that price you better be able to patch them a time or two.
@peva7945
@peva7945 3 жыл бұрын
Jings! As a cyclist with a more "traditional" approach to spending, I tend to buy tyres, not tubes, at £25 each😊
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@filipos7459
@filipos7459 3 жыл бұрын
No chance at 5times the price. Value pricing to capture early adopters and cash in early can only work if the product is 5times better
@PaulGreenVlog
@PaulGreenVlog 3 жыл бұрын
Nope ! That's the answer Simon !
@fisharefriends598
@fisharefriends598 3 жыл бұрын
£25. Hell no. Decathlon’s are £3.. I’d normal get continental like you but hard to get hold of
@Alf-Garnish
@Alf-Garnish 3 жыл бұрын
I def wouldn't use them, At £25 each, it's nothing short of legal mugging. I use maxxis ultralight 65g at £7 each, in comparison they are a bargain
@kjm-ch7jc
@kjm-ch7jc 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the cost is profit with raw material £1 per kilo. Manufactures should make it cheaper, sell more and recover the research and development quicker.
@adi.tjahjono
@adi.tjahjono 2 жыл бұрын
i bought 4 of this inner tube for my MTB. all were last only few ride before got problem ... flat tyre all ... seems from its valve. throw them all ... can risk my biking enjoyement with this tyre!
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a shame and surprising from Schwalbe.
@pc750-V4
@pc750-V4 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think any of these 'plastic' tubes seem to be repairable, or not a long lasting repair. I also cant really see the reason for their existence given the weight of ultra light 'normal' tubes, they seem to be a solution to a problem that didn't really exist, even more so in the tubeless era.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure Жыл бұрын
I think you're right. I managed to fix a Tubolito at home but on the road it would be a lot harder.
@mauriziovarini5752
@mauriziovarini5752 3 жыл бұрын
25£ for a tube is almost a scam...
@Graptos
@Graptos 3 жыл бұрын
Tubeless (albeit, when installing it can sometime be a bit 🤬).
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I think I put a slight bend in my rims when trying tubeless and I can't get it to stay airtight so went back to tubes. But not these. If you can get it to work for you then yes, it's the way for gravel.
@hayabusa27
@hayabusa27 3 жыл бұрын
Safe to say Schwalbes not cool with you anymore
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not expecting a Christmas card. Or anything else to review either - sadly.
@dalj4362
@dalj4362 Жыл бұрын
One good thing, they have black valves 😅
@keithmaclure9101
@keithmaclure9101 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... no way!
@Tbonstake.
@Tbonstake. 3 жыл бұрын
Definetelly not i think.Nothing special to spend more there.Anyway if tyre is always fresh nothing to worry.If it is to happen a puncture we all know no way to handle obviously.Its a no
@JFomo
@JFomo 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so don't buy it, gotcha. So the Continentals are a good middle ground?
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
I think I might have a way to make them work and an update video will happen soon, but it's a faff. I use Contis. If you're interested, we have a video coming at the weekend about the best all-round road tyres.
@angelomastrandrea4682
@angelomastrandrea4682 3 жыл бұрын
Soldi buttati al vento, una volta bucate e si bucano come normali camere le riparazioni non tengono si gonfiano ma dopo un giorno le trovi sgonfie, inutile le lamentele alla casa madre, spendere tanti soldi non vale la pena, poi non le puoi gonfiare a pressione se non nel copertoncino altrimenti si formano ernie, il solo pregio è il peso il resto sono soldi buttati, su 4 camere 3 sono fuori uso in quanto non si possono riparare alla perfezione.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 3 жыл бұрын
concordato
@davidbeagley4853
@davidbeagley4853 3 жыл бұрын
No way hose
@punkhiker389
@punkhiker389 3 жыл бұрын
Way to expensive for me.
@johnmorris3776
@johnmorris3776 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was going to get them for my daily commute but you popped them a few times I'll go the cheaper rout.
@alwaysanotheradventure
@alwaysanotheradventure 6 ай бұрын
There are lots of ‘plastic’ tubes out now and a lot cheaper, lighter and smaller. They’re worth it for touring for the space saving but won’t replace regular tubes for most things.
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