AFC West Studs & Duds! | Reviewing Player Performance Around The NFL

[@ethanducharme2510]

I do feel bad for Gardner Minshew it seems like Antonio Pierce and Luke Getsy have broken him down mentally and physically Edit: One day after I commented this Luke Getsy got fired.

[@ChewsCarefully]

Or *maybe* it's more than one thing. I see in Minshew something I also see in Nix. Both seem to have not built up their side-muscles, laterals as much as they need & throw almost exclusively with their arms, not enough twist. As a result they throw too much like baseball & can't zip in their throws. This is what makes them inaccurate when they throw long. Davante was upset because he knew neither he nor AOC could throw deep. This is why.

[@grantmartin4773]

I mean not really he has just played terrible but the play calling hasn't been great either. When they throw consistently they are pretty decent but luke getsy has cooked the offense regardless of how gardner has played

[@ethanducharme2510]

TFG starting QB rankings (overall) 1. Patrick Mahomes (96) 2. Lamar Jackson (93) 3. Joe Burrow (90) 4. Justin Herbert (87) 5. Matthew Stafford (87) 6. Jared Goff (84) 7. Dak Prescott (84) 8. Jordan Love (83) 9. Kyler Murray (83) 10. Brock Purdy (82) 11. Kirk Cousins (81) 12. Geno Smith (81) 13. Jayden Daniels (80) 14. Jalen Hurts (80) 15. Baker Mayfield (79) 16. Russell Wilson (77) 17. Caleb Williams (77) 18. Derek Carr (77) 19. Sam Darnold (74) 20. Daniel Jones (74) 21. Bo Nix (73) 22. Jameis Winston (70) 23. Gardner Minshew (70) 24. Bryce Young (67) 25. Deshaun Watson (65)

[@chrisfish4788]

josh allen?

[@utahockey]

TFG Uploads, I watch. it's that simple. every video, every minute. realest one out there with the best content = epic KZbinr

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Appreciate you more than you know 💪

[@thatrandomguy3290]

Leo Chenel is a freaking beast! Watch him on the Falcons and Raiders 4th down plays just completely dominate the offense line and blow up the play 🤯

[@FallingSloths]

Vance Joseph deserves a massive shout-out. The way he has developed these players and created a unit that is greater than the sum of its parts is EXACTLY what you dream of seeing from your DC

[@JordanLotts]

Some of the Raiders players that I think are worth another look (positive and negative) Duds: Kolton Miller - mostly injury related but he's been struggling so hard this year (-6) Andre James - Similar drop off to Kolton, unsure what's been going on with him (-5) Thayer Munford - Not the franchise tackle we wanted, he was actually benched for Glaze straight up and then was awful when he had to step into left tackle for Kolton Miller this past weekend (-5) Tre Tucker - Has not had the separation we expected for a player with his speed + the flashes we saw last year (-2) John Jenkins - Expected drop off with age, can't hold against double teams, misses tackles (-1) Studs: Nate Hobbs - Insane against the run (for the second year running) we play him as a psuedo linebacker, slot and outside corner and he's been fantastic in all 3 phases. Our only corner that can tackle (+2) Special Teams - AJ Cole and Daniel Carlson are crushing it. Especially Cole, he's in the conversation for best punter Adam Butler - Much improved against the run and maintains those flashes of pass rush, our best DT now (+3) K'lavon Chaisson - Stepped right into the role we needed, much like charles snowden. Good against the run (+2)

[@realmcraftchronicles]

I agree with everything but Tucker. Look just in this video at 57:57 and 58:08. I dunno what the deal is, but even watching some games you see a half a second later and hes open. and when it is thrown to him its underthrown and he barely misses or makes some type of crazy catch. The flashes that we see from him are when hes given the chance to make a play. Then in the other plays you see two defenders on him because they are scared of his speed.

[@primeministermarci3387]

Thank you again for doing this series we love it!!!!

[@miles233]

lfg white corners

[@leftisbest7173]

😂😢😂😊😅😊🎉 48:48

[@colecaine.]

Let’s not turn this into a rally, pal 🤨

[@ryanjohnson2994]

our Jackie Robinson 🥲

[@Георг-л5л]

@@colecaine.it’s football relax kid

[@philibusters23]

Three formers Maryland guy on the list for the Raiders in DJ Glaze, Jakorian Bennett, and DJ Turner. In Turner's case he is technically out of Pitt, but he played four out of his five years at Maryland before transferring and breaking out at Pitt. DJ Glaze was not a highly recruited player out of Florida. He redshirted. As a RS Freshman he didn't start but he must have established himself in practice because they gave him a lot of series in close games and he ended up playing like 30% of the reps. As a RS Sophomore they moved him into Guard and he was instantly a good starter there. In 2022 and 2023 they moved him out to Tackle. He was also a good starter never became that dominant guy but all three years as a starter he was good (PFF grade in the 70's). Bennett was a JUCO who was a three year starter (he took an extra covid year). Like Glaze he wasn't a big recruit. His last 2 years as a starter he had a ton of pass breakup which to be showed he had some ball skills. His hands were terrible as he dropped a number of potential picks, but he was getting his hands on the pass. Between him, Deontae Banks, and Tarheeb Still he made the most plays on the ball but was probably targeted the most. Banks wasn't targeted as much, but rarely made any plays on the ball, and Tarheeb Still was the nickelback. DJ Turner was a guy who was underutilized at Maryland. He was stuck behind guys like DJ Moore (understandable), Dontay Demus, Taivon Jacobs and though he spent four years at Maryland was never better than their fourth receiver. The 600 receiving yards he had at Pitt ended up exceeding his four year total at Maryland. Of the three he was the most highly rated recruit as he was a four star guy out of powerhouse Dematha (Turner was ranked 5th in the state and 145th nationally). He was part of the 2016 class which locally had a lot of hype as being a good class but when it was all said and done produced only 1 starting NFL player (Trevon Diggs) and a lot of college and NFL disappointments (such as Dwayne Haskins). Turner is unique among that group in that some of them had solid college careers but didn't do anything in the NFL, Turner was a big disappointment in college, but has stayed around in the NFL.

[@Zobster-nb7je]

Jakorian Bennett & Jordan Meredith love well deserved. Would also like to see an upgrade to Adam Butler

[@JeKramxel]

For the Chargers, I think it's pretty spot on! Only one I straight disagree is Zion. Think his pass pro has gone from bad to worse, and his run blocking while still ok, isn't enough to offset it. Regarding Dobbins it's tough. He seems to have lost a bit of a step, and he's in the good/not great category. Run blocking has also been a bit suspect (and part of why Herbert is throwing a lot more), but I think Dobbins is what he is, at this point. Good stop-gap, on the cheap, with ability to play at a high level. I wouldn't give him a bag, but he's done well enough to earn a paycheck elsewhere.

[@brett4948]

Bumping JPJ down one is ludicrous imo, he’s being one of the few positive forces for the Raiders right now. Check out his film vs Cincy, he was utterly dominant. >90 PFF grade!

[@jakeburriss9383]

Tarheeb still had a massive game against the browns, hopefully he keeps up his play. Interested in what you've seen as I know you didn't get to his tape for your draft review videos. Chargers having two rookie 5th round picks and former 6th putting on their best defensive showings the last few weeks. Coaching makes a difference!

[@lousanus8781]

Best content on KZbin 👌

[@mr.newvegas1704]

Wooo AFC West isn’t last in a video series for once! Lol

[@LuisGonzalez-tp1uy]

Riley Moss my Jackie Robinson

[@colewilliams9359]

The zamir white dropoff shouldve been forecasted. Hes already torn two acls i believe. One in high school senior year and another his freshman year at georgia. His body is probably giving up on him early

[@neonwhitea.1548]

Nazee Johnson won the cb 3 job and when he got a concussion last week Joshua Williams came in as the cb 3

[@SeraphStryker]

Joshua Williams looked a bit rough out there to start the pre/regular season and I think lost the cb3 role early on. Never heard anything on it either though.

[@philibusters23]

This is interesting, but the one I am looking forward to is the AFC South for the discussion on Levis and Richardson. Even the the discussion on the Jags and Texans should be interest,. The Jags cause they are so disappointing and the Texans because they have a good team, but did the lack of O-Line finally catch up with them (all the talk that the Shannahan system was immune to O-Line woes).

[@joshuaclarendon9829]

If i remember correctly last year before he tore his ACL the hype around nazeeh johnson made it seem like he was in the convo for CB2. So its not a huge shock that he's starting over Williams. Williams seem like a good dude so I don't think he's had a falling out i just think he's been kinda bad

[@etSp]

Yo TFG for the Rosters are they updated with Studs and Duds or is it only the original one.

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Roster should be up to date with all the Studs and Duds we've done so far. I'll double check that when I get home.

[@realcoleholland]

49:52 also keep in mind Marcus the NFL still has to suspend rice due to the multitude of charges he got last offseason because the investigation will complete by the time he gets healthy I think his rating should stay the same or go down because he’ll probably come off of that rusty, Deshaun Watson should be the precedent, as you very well know getting injured and having and having a significant legal case made him play awful, Rice will probably come out of the gates pretty rusty in the middle of next season. You want to keep that in mind when preparing your deep dive for next offseason or your next episode of studs and duds

[@DruiceBox]

I doubt his punishment will be as severe as watson. Public doesn't find it as bad.

[@vampahh1171]

Nazeeh is a lot like Chamarri that can go in the slot when McDuffie goes outside so i think spags favors that versatility over the handsy Josh who can't help himself with the penalties

[@ledgnr197gaming5]

I get why Mahomes has not been lowered but idk man he's been rough this year

[@ryanmohler3495]

watching this inside the browns stadium against the chargers

[@ethanducharme2510]

Surprised you didn’t drop Michael Mayer

[@ScamilyCapalot]

For the rosters, are there any ability changes? Or at least your suggestions ?

[@Awneel84]

Let’s goooo

[@tonys101]

Dobbins below Williams is a take

[@waylonfelter5260]

Why is his file not showing up downloadable?

[@sdhfgujk467]

not droppping mahomes is kinda insane lol

[@mattdrucker9077]

Not dropping Mahomes?

[@marcv9311]

To be fair he said in deep dives that his qb scale was flawed and mahomes should’ve been a 99 coming into the year. So doubt he’s gonna drop him further from the 96

[@noahlambert4176]

3 peat?

[@zod548]

Haven’t kept up with the raiders since my ravens lost to them, just curious what the talks are around them and AP at coach? So far is it a bad hire? Are things moving as they expected them to? Does he get another year probably after they draft a QB?

[@ethanducharme2510]

AP shouldn’t get another year he’s all talk no action. I don’t trust him to develop a rookie quarterback

[@zod548]

@ that development part was what I’ve been leaning towards just not sure he’s even the guy for a next qb

[@isaiah1065]

Luke Getsy is horrible. You were so right that you were wrong in predicting it wasn’t a dumpster fire inside a junkyard fire

[@grantmartin4773]

No dropping for kolton miller? He has been putrid this year and a large reason for the raiders offensive struggles!

[@Deathlord660]

If JPJ cleans up the penalties and locks in he’ll be fine. Also, thoughts on Hobbs? He’s been playing well.

[@bigbossmaster123]

When Afc east?

[@-Arvocado-]

Where is Nik Bonitto's upgrade? 6 sacks in a row!

[@alexallegood1040]

No on Zamire White You couldn't have paid me to take him

[@EggNoggin4789]

Let’s go! South and East next week right?

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Yes sir!

[@EggNoggin4789]

Hell yeah

[@ikefromsmashbros]

55:39- no clue what the issue is there. Nazeeh Johnson looks worse than Williams in every way, though he was supposedly about to win the NB position last year before his season-ending injury. It may just be a development thing.

[@Clxch224]

Agreed Nazeeh doesn’t look good at all but again he is coming off that acl injury and williams has had his struggles but has experience interested to see who steps up in that room. CRW looks good but hes a slot guy

[@isaiah1065]

Andre James remains untouched?

[@johnrichards2608]

Chargers definitely made the right pick with Alt. Can’t believe some wanted a receiver over keeping Herbert healthy

[@ShadH93]

Casual fans don’t know we got to keep our boy upright

[@nolanlight5386]

As a chargers fan I agree but if Ladd wasn’t there in the second for us to trade up to get and we drafted someone like Adonai Mitchell I am not sure I’m as happy or our record is as good

[@vinnieandhispizza6299]

Damn. The bots are out in force

[@Bigchangues]

Can’t lie Zion Johnson has been really bad this year. Think you missed on this.