good points on the 3 phase and VFD. Most people don't understand the benefits of a 3 phase motor and VFD. besides being a longer lasting motor, the ability to "soft start" the motor, (the VFD is programed invariably to start the motor a bit softer and can usually be adjusted to be more or less delay) is very important for small shops that are close to their limit in power. The soft start makes the surge (inrush) power MUCH smaller and much less likely to trip breakers.
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
It's true, most collectors are just a hard start with a capacitor and require a bigger breaker than they otherwise should just to handle start load.
@thanhnhanhuynhnguyen36523 ай бұрын
Man this deserves more view
@MaxMut.9 ай бұрын
Very thankful for this information “
@pixelwoodworks9 ай бұрын
Great to hear some feedback on this. Were you/are you/did you consider one?
@MaxMut.9 ай бұрын
@@pixelwoodworks for sure in the future I will be looking up, Thanks again “
@pkwoodworking10 ай бұрын
Great video with some real information. I would like to see how the Felder RL160 would stack up. Pricing is similar and the specs are close.
@pixelwoodworks10 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the feedback. There are a lot of options out there, I thought most people would be looking at the short and long cone cyclones. Before I purchased the G800 and when I had a 3HP short cone, I looked wide and deep, including the RL160. Its been two years now so I can't remember exactly the issues, but it probably had something to do with size, pressure, and cleaning (or what I read people saying about filters clogging since its a manual bag system). So I had narrowed it down to a Cyclone of some sort because filter cleaning is no bueno. I was also enamored at the time with the AL-KO. I saw them at IWF as well, gorgeous units, but at the time I couldn't even get someone to respond. They are repped by Martin USA who has since gotten a new sales manager.
@SteveKuznetsov9 ай бұрын
Cleaning the filter stack on the Felder is definitely a pain. If you fill up the catchment bin more than 80% you're basically guaranteed a filter clog.
@pixelwoodworks9 ай бұрын
@@SteveKuznetsovi can only imagine the pain.
@jcwoodshop7 ай бұрын
Very informative video ... Thank you
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@samirvanjani7 ай бұрын
Solid review. How did you get the ivac to work with the Harvey? When I turn off the ivac it shuts the power to the Harvey and then when it comes back on it doesn’t turn on the motor just the control panel. Is there some way to work around the power/control panel issue?
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
I don't use the IVAC with the Harvey. They have their own system, its too limited though. I just manage them separately, its not a big deal.
@gharel3965 ай бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on the ramp-up time for the Harveys? I've heard that it can be irritating
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
I heard that too, and it somewhat true, but every motor with an impeller will have spin up time. G800 is just a bit longer. I usually wear headphones and just let it run while I'm working so I'm not turning it on and off constantly.
@B-WalnutАй бұрын
Would you say the g800 will be sufficient with no ducting, just a 15' flex hose being moved machine to machine?
@leevee858 ай бұрын
Super helpful! Thank you. I think this is the best video I've found comparing the G800 with relevant Oneida options. For some reason, there's almost nothing on YT about the G800. Yeah, the Harvey marketing scheme is pretty annoying.
@pixelwoodworks8 ай бұрын
So glad someone found it helpful! Are you in the market for a new dust collector? Curious to know what you end up buying and why.
@leevee858 ай бұрын
@@pixelwoodworks Yes! I have been stuck b/w Harvey's Gyro Options (G700 & G800) vs Oneida's Supercell Turbo or Dust Gorilla Pro. I've been finishing up my building, so I'll have to decide this summer. The issues that have prevented me from pulling the trigger on the Supercell Turbo so far are the noise and the limitations on future expansion.
@pixelwoodworks8 ай бұрын
@@leevee85 Sounds like you have all the information. I'd be curious what you end up doing in the end and how it works out.
@ironchefboyardeee4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I have the floor space for this versus the Oneida mini gorilla, but I am curious about the filter ratings. If HEPA requires removing "from the air that passes through-at least 99.97% of particles whose diameter is equal to 0.3 μm, with the filtration efficiency increasing for particle diameters both less than and greater than 0.3 μm." wouldn't that mean the Harvey meets HEPA? Or is it possible that it has lower filtration smaller and larger than 0.3 μm. Then again Oneida specs "HEPA-Grade Filter Media with an E12 minimum efficiency rating" and per Wikipedia E12 is not quite HEPA. This is confusing. Having said all that, I'm not sure how much that small difference, if any, in filtration would matter. Especially if you are running a separate air cleaner in a small shop. Anyway I may not have a choice based upon floor space. Thanks for the great video!
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
I think your looking at shades of gray. More fine particles will escape and fill the air regardless of the filter, you just can't get everything at the tool. Harvey now has a new version of the G800, the Pro which is even larger. Sad IMHO.
@NewTestamentDocАй бұрын
seeing my pro woodworker grandfather die from lung damage due to smoking and woodworking in days when the business shop didn't have much dust collection, something like this is a life and death buy....
@flemingsiron15 ай бұрын
Im getting Napoleon Dynamite flashbacks
@pixelwoodworks3 ай бұрын
Vote for Pedro!
@ChrisMongeon10 ай бұрын
@4:16 like this comment if you have high static pressure
@pixelwoodworks10 ай бұрын
The only thing that's high is my blood pressure :o
@troelsnielsen284810 ай бұрын
Feels so discriminating how he talks about stuff being chinese. Shame on you
@pixelwoodworks10 ай бұрын
Your finding bias where there is none.. American made woodworking equipment has historically been of the highest quality and as American manufacturers have moved oversees, the quality has gone downhill. I'm sure this has nothing to do with ability but competing on cost. This is the reality of todays environment, and, my point is, Harvey is a Chinese company making woodworking equipment that is of the highest quality.
@oliver299d8 ай бұрын
@@pixelwoodworks I have a shop full of old American made and some newer European made machinery, there is a huge difference, people think the stuff made in asia these days is good, its not, it's lightweight and the castings are not the same they don't season them anymore over there
@paulkramer41766 ай бұрын
@@pixelwoodworks Perhaps that is what you do feel, and good for you, but you do say that "it is not what you'd expect from a Chinese company". I understand that you don't feel biased, but, just trying to convince others that their bias should be changed... but you see the point. Words matter. I've worked for 30 years, (retired now) in Chinese companies. Started in 1980. They were used to making very poor quality. But the market DEMANDED that they make poor quality! Why? because most American (and other) companies went to them and asked for "CHEAPER". I wanted quality from them, and after a couple of years of work, got it. They certainly CAN produce high quality products. (your IPhones are likely built there, as well as many other tech components. The best battery makers, PV panels, etc are made there.) I remember when "made in Japan" was an indication of "cheap junk". Just saying that it is NOT the Chinese that are the reason that products from China are poor quality. It is Consumers and customers, (companies) in the rest of the world that are demanding it be cheap!