Aftershock Vapor 15/MAG-15 Review - My New Favorite Laptop?

The Eluktronics MAG-15 has received a lot of hype in the US, I've got the Australian version of that here, the Vapor 15 Pro from Aftershock which uses the same Intel designed chassis, so let’s check it out and find out why this is such an interesting laptop that you should consider.
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[@JarrodsTech]

Check out the newer late 2021 model here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLQpXeqrJeLqrM

[@JarrodsTech]

This review covers the GTX 1660 Ti model, the RTX 2070 Max-Q version arrived a couple of days ago and I'm working on a comparison. Update: compared them here kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3mqYouonbiCec0

[@triple9_]

Cool 😌

[@triple9_]

Anyways this or the helios 300?

[@savp2293]

Looking forward to it, thanks.

[@youshouldbewatching9745]

Hello. Think you can do a vid about best gaming laptop under $1500?

[@HumbleRonin]

Can't wait, I've been considering that model and would love to see more reviews, thank you for doing these

[@PTieno]

This channel is a goldmine. How do you afford to get your hands on so many laptops and so quickly? Do you own a computer store?

[@davidmartinek5257]

Companies send him review units.

[@bradhaines3142]

he calls people, gets review units and ships them back out

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! Yeah 98% are borrowed review units that get sent back when I'm done. Others I buy just to review, but that only happens if they are very heavily requested and I can't otherwise get it.

[@JarrodsTech]

If you're in Australia you can get $50 AUD off when ordering through Aftershock with code 'jarrodstech'

[@michaeljohnston9405]

Hey mate would you rate this over the new asus g14?

[@JarrodsTech]

@@michaeljohnston9405 this will win in GPU performance / games as it's higher wattage, also more features like Thunderbolt, mech keyboard, better battery life, SD slot and ethernet. G14 if you really need slightly smaller but with killer CPU performance

[@maxsharkey5622]

Are you planning on doing a review of the new vapor 15x? Do you think the 10thgen +2060 is work the extra money over the vapor 15 pro?

[@SP-ct3pd]

@@maxsharkey5622 Looking forward to the rv of this because I'm tossing up between this and the 15x

[@JarrodsTech]

@@maxsharkey5622 Not at the moment, but only because they haven't offered it to me yet and I'm pretty flat out to ask for it at the moment haha.

[@yak141freestyle2]

This channel deserves a lot more subs. You helped me source out the laptop i wanted for cheap you are a god to me.

[@JarrodsTech]

Cheers, happy to help!

[@pancakes1983]

.... and i've got the Australian version of it, the "Aussie bush tucker dingo boomerang gwiz 15"

[@JarrodsTech]

It comes with a free harness for you to tie it down to your desk, wouldn't want it to fall away from the earth and into space while you're upside down.

[@biggusdickus2907]

@@JarrodsTech Bruh 😂

[@ExcedereInInfinitum]

it's burnt

[@mrselenio]

"and this is what it sounds like when you set the fan speed to maximum" *Proceeds to turn the hair dryer on*

[@temporaldeicide9558]

Holy crap!!! Thank you man!!! Great videos and helpful :) Main feature I like is in the description

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem at all, cheers!

[@60DollarCodger]

Thanks for another comprehensive review. Had a friend asking about this laptop, so now I can give him this info and take credit.

[@JarrodsTech]

haha

[@rapjardin]

Finally. Thank you for this review. Looking forward to the RTX 2070 comparison and full review too!

[@JarrodsTech]

I'm testing games out on it right now!

[@jymloke]

@@JarrodsTech is the fan very loud in the rtx2070?

[@Milky4Skin]

thank you for the detailed review as I was going to get the mag 15 shipped to Australia from the eluktronic store. just saved $400.

[@JarrodsTech]

Nice!

[@sudipkc6185]

Cant still find how you saved 400$

[@QuyNguyen-mv1gl]

Thanks for the review! It’s great that this model is available in Australia.

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem! Yeah good to see it available 👍

[@sethusn3523]

this channel is just awsome 😍 your reviews and testing really helped in selecting my device....U even replied to all my doubts I asked in the comment section...thanks a lot sir. U deserve more suscribers...keep going ....🤗

[@exoticcars7248]

He makes very useful reviews, I bought my loptop based on His Review and I'm happy with my purchase .

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@floatyseagull9472]

i wanna loptop

[@sethusn3523]

💯...I bought my strix scar 2 based on his reviews and testing. he will also clear our doubts through replying the comments....this guy desersves more suscribers...one of the most underrateed channels in youtube...

[@matrihamiltonjr2230]

@@sethusn3523 yeah its probably the main downside that comes with a channel like this for products people expect to have for a long while they'll most likely buy then wont come back for a 2 or 3+years. compared to like game reviews where you'll look every daily to monthly

[@TAJARIBSAUD]

Thank you for the information I know it's hard work Thanks a lot Waiting for more

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem, cheers!

[@kevinphonetic]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE LATENCYMON RESULTS. I've been trying for weeks to get the results from owners, the eluktronics website and eluktronics' social media with no luck. You have finally ended my quest, and I can feel comfortable purchasing this laptop.

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad I could help!

[@x9x9x9x9]

one thing that i really appreciate on your videos is that u bothered to put up closed captions, thanks man

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem!

[@UnrequitedLove23]

Finally found a good laptop reviewer without exaggerations and same synthetic tests under 5 mins videos lol. Subbed!

[@JarrodsTech]

Welcome to the channel!

[@The_Trojan]

Best Laptop review channel on KZbin. Nuff said.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks Mark!

[@JoloNavarro]

One of my favorite laptop as well. Specs are balanced but powerful imo for its form factor with really great battery life ❤️ great and informative video as always Jarrod! ❤️

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@joeMAMAAA88]

nice work Jarrod

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@tarcoolkingsoft1014]

Yeah it is mine too i chose the vapor 15 cause of the battery life over the helios 300, so wanted better performance good budget and decent battery life Thank you

[@JarrodsTech]

Nice!

[@gmbproducer9617]

Tarcool Kingsoft that’s pretty much myself now. Trying to decide between Helios 300 and mag-15 A difference of about 500 bucks for those perks . May stick with mag cuz laptops at the end is a longtime investment and feeling good changes a lot your experience ofx

[@PasserbyP]

Hi friend how is it faring 7 months later :)

[@tarcoolkingsoft1014]

@@PasserbyP pretty good actually a day of my light work on avg its 7 to 8 hrs

[@chunqg]

Damn ! This laptop looks so good

[@JarrodsTech]

🤩

[@utubekullanicisi]

Agreed

[@jordiplavic5533]

Great video.. As usual! 💕

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@grahamjones4539]

THANK YOU FOR THIS! :)

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem 😊

[@BRAINSPLATTER16]

I love Dave2D but he lackin RN. Youre my new laptop guy.

[@JarrodsTech]

I know what you mean, I watched today's video on the Dell laptop and it ended and I was like "what even happened here" 🤔

[@BRAINSPLATTER16]

@@JarrodsTech I just mean he doesn't do nearly as many videos as you do.

[@felixmontanez4090]

@@JarrodsTech his reviews are getting shorter

[@contactkelvinsim]

What is the voice over app u used?

[@timrogers8709]

Ditto. Dave2D is a very nice guy but his videos are so short I don’t even have time to work up an opinion. His voice is just like Valium for your ears and he makes good use of lighting and editing... but the actual content is pretty weak lately. This channel is my new favorite for actually learning something... quite useful when you’re looking to spend thousands of dollars!

[@kerabyte9592]

That plant cover...looks like a 9900k box:) 0:09

[@JarrodsTech]

They stole the idea off me!

[@williamdoyon6242]

Dude, your temperature graphs are top notch.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@bena.7896]

Great review! Would love to see a review on the new Aftershock APEX 15 lite release in May/June 2020.

[@exveniuz]

The Malaysia version is Level 51 Vapor 15 Pro

[@JarrodsTech]

Oh is that a different company, or just slightly different model name, because I know Aftershock sell there too.

[@exveniuz]

@@JarrodsTech I think it is the same company because in their website it says 'level 51 pc by aftershock'

[@TsurugiMatsuda]

@@JarrodsTech It IS the Malaysian branch of Aftershock PC. And the VAPOR 15 Pro sold there does NOT have the Intel AX200 Wi-Fi-6 chip unlike the Australian and Singaporean Editions (it uses the Intel Dual-Band 9560 2x2 Wi-Fi chip instead!). Malaysia have THREE main custom notebook builders headquartered in Selangor State / Kuala Lumpur area: Level 51, Illegear and ArmoryX (formerly Tech Armory), with the latter two homegrown in Malaysia.

[@yewzhiyuan1050]

I can't find it on the Level 51 website and have asked if they're selling it but they said no

[@Itzhennessy]

0:26 when u list out the specs specified to the laptop can u kindly add the Battery mAh as well it comes with will be really useful thank u so much ;)

[@JarrodsTech]

Hmm maybe, I mention that when I discuss the battery.

[@Prophet650]

You can see it when he does the opened-up pan shot. 8000mAh typical. 8200mAh max.

[@sleepy857]

You and Dave2D are the gods of gaming laptops review! I love your videos!!

[@dlhorne42]

Thank you for all of your very detailed laptop reviews. I've finally decided to upgrade from my 7-year old laptop to an Eluktronics MAG-15! I'm really looking forward to better performance, quieter operation, and much more battery life for half the weight! (all without eye-blistering RGB) - Old laptop: 2012 Sager NP9170 17.3" (i7-3630QM, GTX 680M 4GB, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD+750GB HDD, 77Wh batt.(down to ~50Wh due to wear), 8.6 lbs.) - New laptop: 2019 Eluk. MAG-15 15.6" (i7-9750H, RTX 2070MQ 8GB, 32GB RAM, 2TB NVMe SSD, 94Wh batt., 4.2 lbs.)

[@JarrodsTech]

Sounds like a nice improvement, glad I could help!

[@ultradmx]

How are you liking it so far?

[@dlhorne42]

@@ultradmx It's great! Beats the pants off my old laptop while running cooler/quieter and at half the weight! Definitely my favorite laptop keyboard I've ever used as well with the mechanical switches.

[@xXTheXBestXGamerXx]

Can this review be taken as a review for the XMG Fusion 15?

[@JarrodsTech]

Yes.

[@xXTheXBestXGamerXx]

@@JarrodsTech Thank you! You are doing an amazing job, i love the fact that your videos are so detailed.

[@JarrodsTech]

@@xXTheXBestXGamerXx Cheers!

[@Dhairya_Dj]

What is 1% low performance ? & How much important it is ? PS: As always love your videos

[@JarrodsTech]

Cheers! It's a way of showing the dips in performance, this video explains it very well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ome6mJWcfMStY80

[@Dhairya_Dj]

@@JarrodsTech Thanks ... On Point & Precise 👌

[@elinavance3476]

I really like the port selection and placement! my msi laptop has the charging port, hdmi and ethernet port on the back of the device aswell. good indepth review!

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@creativeleo]

Wow very nice detailed review

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@x3ni487]

I'm still confused as how the prices are so low for the exact same product in the US compared to what they cost in France (almost 15-25% more sometimes)

[@Sagadiniz]

While in France (and all EU countries) the VAT is included in the price, In the US it is added on checkout. It ends up being about the same price.

[@x3ni487]

@@Sagadiniz wait what, so it is indeed the same price. Why lie about the price tag in almost every tech review youtube channel? Since the price announced is far from the one you end up paying? Why not have final prices written everywhere like in Europe? What kind of bs is this

[@Sagadiniz]

I believe it's because it changes from state to state. Still, it's very anoying.

[@notvio]

Gigabyte Aero 15 Classic XA (RTX 2070, 240Hz) vs. Fusion 15/Vapor 15/MAG-15 What's your opinion?

[@genexis_x9040]

Mag is much better

[@JarrodsTech]

I'd pick this.

[@FelixemmaHighway]

Great review... Keep to update

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@renzeldavid4568]

That lighting underneath, giving razer ideas

[@veyz2278]

Thanks for the great review Jarrod! Really like that this runs cool while performing well on AAA games. Well, loud fans can be a turn off for others but this is a gaming laptop, would rather have a properly cooled system than a quiet one. Maybe you could do an in depth review with it against the Helios 300 and applying the same tweaks if possible. Btw could you do also a review with it by connecting an external gpu? just curious how would it perform using the TB3..really excited for your review of the 2070 max q variant, well 1660 ti is still the sweet spot. Keep up the good work man!

[@TheAgentAssassin]

I like loud fans👍

[@JarrodsTech]

Cheers, yeah might compare with Helios 300, just a bit hard to do fairly as my data is with older drivers and doubt Acer will send me one just to refresh my data haha, but even with the old numbers maybe not too much difference and I could just caveat the results. I want to test it on eGPU but not sure I'll have time, there are 8 other machines here at the moment I need to get through :(

[@eutichusm4367]

You know, even though I already got a laptop (Dell G5 :P) I still love watching these kind of videos.

[@mdalabs]

Same, G7 7590 here

[@TheAgentAssassin]

My Dell g5 gets to 80c watching KZbin.

[@mdalabs]

@@TheAgentAssassin oof very weird, mine sits at 56° and fans can't be heard if I'm just doing that

[@eutichusm4367]

@@TheAgentAssassin lol wtf mine stays at 45c-50c watchin youtubes. Theres probably wrong with your fan, mate

[@JarrodsTech]

I watch a lot of stuff I never plan on buying too 😎

[@soumen08]

Jarrod, my man! Excellent review. There is a new version with a 10875H and a 2070 Super Max-P. Give that a whirl? It might be the best value for money laptop of all time.

[@TechFinds]

Great and detailed content as always! You're growing insanely fast now. ;) As for the laptop impressive performance, but runns kinda hot and it's pretty expensive for a GTX 1660Ti laptop. But just $100 difference between 1660Ti and 2070mq? That's strange.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! In Australia it's +$780 AUD for the 2070 Max-Q which I don't think is worth it, $100 sounds more reasonable.. However the differences I'm seeing are pretty small so far.

[@tommybro5313]

Jarrod: *My favorite laptop* Fans: I thought we were your favorites.. (envy)

[@JarrodsTech]

😍

[@yahyaehsan1164]

We aren't laptops though

[@michaelmcl1406]

Haaa I fecken wish i had the budget for this laptop 🤣😂😭

[@JarrodsTech]

Same 😎

[@HamuelPter]

michaelmcl it's still cheaper than most gaming laptops with the same specs

[@johnkastner4437]

@@HamuelPter Naw I got a legion Y740 for cheaper with better specs. $1500 for a 17" laptop with an I7 9750h, RTX 2070 MAXQ, 16gb Ram, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 144hz G-Sync, Thunderbolt 3, and RGB keyboard.

[@chocchip4172]

@@HamuelPter It's not cheaper than most ("than some" makes more sense) but I think you pay like a 100-250 dollar extra for the BIIIG battery, mechanical keyboard and metallic chassis, which I would happily pay for.

[@HamuelPter]

@@johnkastner4437 yeah those are some noice specs but, with this laptop, you're paying for everything Choc Chip said + a thin and extremely light chassis.

[@TechWithSean]

Looks like a really nice system 👍 I just got a new favorite too, but I prefer the 17 inchers (size queen lol)

[@JarrodsTech]

Haha fair enough! Too big for my camera bag 😓

[@daudprambudi]

first time i download a video youtube beside shows for my kids.. keep it up.. cheers..!! kinda misses thing you said like "as it consistently giving the best result for benchmarking" ? 😁 p.s. hope you get 500k subs sooner..!!

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! Sorry which time stamp in the video are you referring to? I can try and explain better.

[@daudprambudi]

@@JarrodsTech no i mean, i remember commenting on your old videos about how you pronounce "consistently" and it does sound good, so i kinda want to hear it again 😁 but it just IMHO, i dont ask anything just keep what are you doing and i am sure people will keep subbing..

[@ArvindSinghA]

Wow that's what we call a review.

[@JarrodsTech]

😁👍👍

[@waifuhunter9815]

Wow the intake has no filter, the dust will pile up quickly

[@JarrodsTech]

Maybe, also means air can get in easily without restriction, most laptops have no filter over the intake, they just have smaller holes so doubt there will be much change. Either way, it's easy to take the bottom panel off and clean, and you can visually see if there is dust build up without even having to take off the cover 😛

[@blueboots]

Great Review Jarrod. I know you've answered similar questions in regards to the difference between this and the Aero 15 OLED, and I'm trying to decide between the two. My main concern is fan noise. While I understand in performance mode this machine can be quite loud, which one of the two machines is the quieter version.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! The results are all in the videos, so all I can really do is go back and listen to the fan noise like you would 😛 after checking the results, at max the Aero was a little louder, but that's assuming you stick the fan at max speed, with the Aero for instance if you have a custom fan curve it won't necessarily hit that, whereas there is very minimal fan control with this one.

[@blueboots]

Thanks For confirming that! Think I’ll go with the Vapor as it’s all about fan noise for me. Currently on a surface book1, and while it’s great, I’m finding I’m needed more grunt. Keep up the good work. Subscribed!

[@TravisLohmannMusic]

seriously considering this with the 1660ti , 2 tb and 32gb of ram as a replacement for my 2009 macbook pro; not really a gamer- but I want to use it as a secondary machine, and possibly for music projects! Thank you for this in depth review.

[@JarrodsTech]

Sounds good! No problem at all!

[@slasher8091]

This or acer helios 300 2019

[@JarrodsTech]

I discuss this towards the end of the video, but basically this if you need/want the extras like mech keyboard, thunderbolt 3, sd card slot and big battery. Helios if you just want better gaming performance per dollar.

[@dushyantk]

Not available in Canada! And Acer"s quality check is a hit or mis.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I think you spelled favourite wrong ;)

[@JarrodsTech]

I did it on purpose and literally wondered if anyone would say that 😊

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@JarrodsTech I would. I definitely push hard to get our spelling included in software here in Taiwan. It's getting added to the NAS as well soon...probably because they're gettin tired of me bringing it up all the time.

[@Saigonas]

spelt*

[@pie725]

Will you be reviewing the gt76 anytime in the future? Your review of the gt75 was a master piece!

[@JarrodsTech]

Yes, I have it here, just need to work through a few other laptops before I can get to it.

[@nikolina872]

Great laptop but very hard to find 😢 Great review again btw 👍

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@ericmooreology]

Hey Jarrod your videos are top notch! Do you know if this laptop is available in Canada under another manufacturer name?

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! So far I'm only aware of Eluktronics selling it as the MAG-15 in the US, and the XMG Fusion 15 in Europe, I don't currently know anyone else selling it.

[@pdiditn]

Thank you for the in-depth review! Now all I need is whether this or the RTX is worth the money.

[@JarrodsTech]

No problem! I'm testing the RTX version out now, comparison video coming soon!

[@mjasax]

Is it the same screen as the mag-15? I've seen other reviews of the mag saying the screen brightness goes to 351 nits. Nice review, thanks!

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah it's the same chassis.

[@zoltanlaky8593]

I have been using my XMG Fusion 15 for half a year now, I bought it based on this review among others. It's an excellent laptop. The battery life is a bit shorter than expected and I have used better trackpads. But the screen is vibrant and fast (this is my first computer screen with anything more than 60%), I absolutely love to type on the mechanical keyboard, and the performance is what you would expect from this hardver. The best thing, however, is thermal performance. XMG probably uses different power limits than Aftershock, becuase I get playable FPS in Silent mode as well (the lowest setting), only about 15-20% less than in Balanced. That means 100+ FPS in Doom Eternal, for instance, at 39-40 decibels! And if I ever need more juice, I put on Balanced, which is still quiet for a gaming laptop (44-45 decibels).

[@Fighting-Egg]

is the bottom also metal? Cheers and keep up the great work!

[@heric.d3]

Obrigado pelo video, eu provavelmente vou esperar até 2020 pra comprar um notebook

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks, fair enough!

[@tanzackary1300]

Hi, I was wondering if you will be doing a review of the Aftershock Vapor15x?

[@alalala100]

Great review as always. One question, what cooling pad do you use?

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks, this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKmVdqGLeZJ3pa8

[@alalala100]

@@JarrodsTech thanks!

[@rayster025]

Hi Jarrod, what do you think if I plug this on a G-sync compatible monitor, would nvidia allow g-sync on that monitor instead? Considering its also 144hz and all. Thanks! Loved your reviews so far!

[@2011Kestrel]

Great review - I really like this laptop. If you do a review of the 2070 version I would love to see how it compares to the 1660. The price difference between the two may be worth the upgrade. One possible fault I want to point out is that this laptop apparently does NOT support charging over the USB-C port. So if you’re travelling you cannot use a power pack to top up the laptop’s battery - unless you happen to be carrying a power pack that has an ac outlet which will also support the laptop power brick’s needs.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks, I do too! I'm testing the 2070 version right now and will hopefully have the comparison done next week. So far though it does not seem like it's worth the extra money.

[@greenvortex7]

Great review and showcasing this laptop. Very interesting. As I work with music and also do video editing I was wondering how it does on Video Editing? One great point as it seems so many laptops are taking this out having an "mic jack" AND "headphone jack." Using audio sometimes there are mixers that have software and you can use USB-A, but there are times one needs to use the "mic jack" when wanting to record audio. For this reason this is a great interest of mine. Don't really do any gaming but Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, Music Editing (Presonus Studio One) and also dj'ing (Traktor, Rekordbox, VDJ) are the main things I would be using. Would you have any insight on how it handle Graphics heavy and rendering video 1080p and 4k videos? Again great channel and great review!

[@JarrodsTech]

With these specs it would do just fine, I edit 4K video in Premiere on a lower specced 8750H/1070 Max-Q laptop and that's just fine too. No hard data to provide otherwise as I didn't explicitly install editing software on this machine to test it out, but let's just say I'd happily pick this for myself if I was after one today, kind of considering upgrading my 15x to it.

[@greenvortex7]

@@JarrodsTech Excellence thanks for the reply and review and now adding this higher up on my list of possible laptops in the near late year or early new year. Top 3 : Asus Zenbook Duo or now tied is the MAG-15 or coming close in 2nd/3rd Lenovo P1 or X1 Extreme. Though this review showing it possible to have 2 SSDs, Full SD card reader, 3 year warranty and Gigabit Ethernet! Currently on Macbook Pro Mid-2012 looking to shift back to Windows as a main laptop after a good 10 years on Mac now. Though will keep the mac for certain apps needed in certain situations and software. This has given me great insight your video and truly grateful for your time and expertise!

[@greenvortex7]

@@JarrodsTech And yes also have the HP Omen 8750H/1070 Max-Q in around 4th place on my list.

[@MatthewRigbyViolin]

First I want to say thank you for putting out amazing videos, I think I have spent about 20 of the last 48 hours watching your reviews haha. I am still struggling to decide between the vapor 15 or the apex 15 2019 version from aftershock, I know that the vapor 15 has better battery life and slightly better build quality etc. but for a similar price to the 1660 ti in the vapor I can get the apex with 2060, do you think that for my workload (premiere pro 4k editing and some gaming) that the 2060 would give the expected 10-15% boost to performance, or will it make very little difference compared to the 1660 ti in the vapor due to high thermals/throttling etc? Perhaps you will be getting to review the updated apex 15 with the 9th gen cpu? Thanks again!

[@JarrodsTech]

Cheers! For Premiere, at least in the videos I make, I find the GPU to make not that much of a difference once you've already got something fairly good, diminishing returns I guess. I'd expect a 1660 Ti to be pretty good for it, as for gaming I guess you've seen my video comparing the 2060? Personally I prefer the build quality and features of this one so it'd be what I go for. I've covered the same tongfang chassis as the apex 15 9th gen on the channel already I think, just do a search through my videos for 'infinity', just another brand here in Australia that sell what I believe is essentially the same machine.

[@MatthewRigbyViolin]

@@JarrodsTech thanks! I just bought the vapor I went in and fell in love with the quality feel of it. Yes I think the 1660 ti will do just fine. Thanks again for the great reviews keep up the great work!

[@ctrlswift]

Hey Jarrod, I'm a new subscriber, really appreciate your content and dedication! I'm a designer trying to upgrade from my SB1 (won't be using a desktop) and I was considering the Acer ConceptD 7 Laptop (I use Adobe CC heavily but also use 3D software in my work flow) after your recent videos about the Mag 15, I'm thinking about getting this - any thoughts on the better choice? Thermal control and power are important to me, but I'd like to know if I can also save money either way! Thanks!

[@JarrodsTech]

Hey, welcome to the channel! I think this would be a decent option for those sorts of workloads, I haven't yet had a chance to test any of the concept D stuff but I should be able to get it in future

[@ctrlswift]

@@JarrodsTech awesome, appreciate the response!

[@liezleboshoff3881]

this channel is awesome.

[@JarrodsTech]

I appreciate that!

[@janjankovicjahoda]

Hi Jarrod. I need an advice. First of all you are my new favourite tech channel. So I cannot imagine myself buying 15 inch gaming laptop. I can imagine it is useful for people, who want to game in train or at school, but all I need is to move to different town and game there. So I want 17 inch. Am I unfair to 15 inches? Or shall I buy 17 if I dont need mobility.

[@M.Z1777]

Hello jarrod thank you for your great videos ,its a question about your benchmarks of overwatch. are you bencharking them with renderscale set to 100% or to auto (141%)?

[@JarrodsTech]

I always use 100% render scale, it should be listed at the top of the graph.

[@traicetea]

If it had been released sooner, I'd have bought this instead of the MSI GS65 (i7 9750h, gtx 1660ti). This laptop is powerful, portable, and easy to upgrade (no inverted motherboard!!!). It's hard to complain. Great review!

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@essebrunoo]

Amazing Review! :) In my country (Brazil) the model name is a60muv but it's literally the same pc. Is it safe to use it for gaming (for a few hours a day) sitting from 85-90 celcius? I`ve tried using throttlestop and undervolted the CPU to -125 and the temps went down a bit but after 1 week it started giving random blue screens of death :( Thank you!

[@Michael_NL]

The Asus GA502DU @ 5:16 is shown as having a 3750H CPU. Small type, great content!

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah it uses the lower powered Ryzen CPU.

[@Michael_NL]

@@JarrodsTech My bad, I thought it looked like an old ivy bridge cpu! Haha!

[@siddj08]

Hey Jarrod, did you find that the idling temps were a little warm on your hands/fingers? Mid 30's is a bit high no?

[@jorgiewtf]

I was really considering this laptop but the only thing that kept me away was the lack of a thunderbolt 3 which I use for my audio production. I ended up going with the 17” g-sync display Lenovo Y740 which also came with a 2080 max-q, 16 gigs of ram, 1tb pcie ssd. With my military discount, I got it for just over $1600 (American). It’s been shipped but hasn’t arrived. I can’t wait!

[@JarrodsTech]

This laptop has Thunderbolt 3, anyway the 740 is decent too so should go well!

[@jorgiewtf]

Jarrod'sTech oh, they totally didn’t mention that on amazon! Oh well, maybe next time.

[@RecklessTurtle]

Quick recommendation... When going over the screen, you may give some reference points as comparison. For instance, 304 nits of brightness is meaningless to regular Joe but if you say "it is brighter than the 2018 MacBookPro or lower than the Dell XPS 15" that'd make an impression... Good job on the review as always...

[@JarrodsTech]

I will probably show it as a comparison graph against others like I recently started doing with the battery life results soon, thanks.

[@robinkarlsten863]

Two years late to the party here but it's on a very good sale in Sweden right now: Looking at the average TDP reaching about 90 watts for performance mode. Would a smaller 120-180 W charger do the job keeping it fueled? I think that the charger is a bit unproportionally heavy. I have found alternatives from the XMG Core that's about half the weight, bringing the total weight down to the low 2 kg rather than the high ones. Also: Thanks for these videos. They have really helped a geek like me who likes to know EXACTLY what I'm buying in my hunt for a new laptop

[@parkerritter3151]

Do you prefer this or the omen? Looking for good power and battery for some light gaming. Going to be an engineering student and would love your opinion!

[@EmperorFooble]

I'm truly looking forward to the 1660ti Vs 2070 Max-Q comparison vid, as after that I intend on buying one of these beasts, just havent been able to decide if the reduced power 2070 is worth the money.

[@JarrodsTech]

I'm working on it right now!

[@nobody5197]

Hey jarrod deciding to pick this or a MSI gs65 (8th gen i7 and 1070 about $100 less) refurbished off eBay. Which one would u recommended?

[@JarrodsTech]

Personally I'd go for this due to larger battery, thunderbolt 3, SD card slot and mech keyboard. That said, the 1070 does slightly outperform the 2060 in most games, so should do a bit better in games.

[@lumpen87]

Hi Jarrod, would you still recomend this product? It's on sale im my country for aprox $800 usd. Good deal? Great channel! Take care, stay safe

[@ritchiemohad6949]

Hi Jarrod, love your content! I just received my Vapor 15 after long wait due to Covid19. I have question about connecting this laptop to monitor. What is the best cable to use to get the best performance out of it. USB-C to Displayport or HDMI? I have monitor with 144 refresh rate with DP and Hdmi connection.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! Probably DisplayPort, depends, if it's just 1080p doubt it will matter, but at the same time DisplayPort probably needed if you want G-Sync compatible mode, don't think Nvidia support variable refresh rate over HDMI.

[@1percentbyjlim]

Hi Ritchie, try the USB-C port while it is under warranty. There is issues with XMG or Fusion model. Check out reddit www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/f4u7s4/usbc_port_dead_after_thunderbolt_firmware_update/?

[@ianlek8595]

Hi! how does this compare to the MAX 15? I’m really torn when it comes to battery life vs performance

[@Cabolt44]

Hey there do you know if the MAG 15 and like builds will be coming to NZ anytime soon? Honestly looks like the laptop for me, with solid specs and features across the board.

[@JarrodsTech]

Honestly no clue, depends whether any companies in the country want to sell it. Might be worth contacting Aftershock/Eluktronics and seeing how much the shipping would be.

[@grocerylist]

Love your laptop reviews. I'm wondering which way you would sway me towards the Eluktronics Mag-15 vs the MSI Prestige 15? I'm not really a gamer and if I gamed I'd use my desktop. Eluktronics obviously is more powerful but for some reason the Prestige 15 seems like it might more polished on fit and finish but I've never seen either in person. I'm upgrading from an old Asus zenbook and appreciate lightweight and slim but I don't think there's a huge difference between Eluktronics and MSI in that regard.

[@JarrodsTech]

MAG-15 for me, much more powerful GPU, not all that much thicker, but yeah if you don't need that power then the Prestige wins for portability.

[@tobiogunleye8379]

@@JarrodsTech I was wondering the same thing. But I'm a bit concerned buying this because I suspect there would be bad customer support after my purchase. Also I was wondering if it can charge through USB C

[@lizzalkula376]

After about five months of research and then waiting I'm thinking seriously about Eluktronic's new gamer line but my only question is about the "mouse". I'm used to ones with a click-button, even though I don't always use the button sometimes it's nice to have that *extra* tactile feedback so I would love to know how much of a difference is it with a "mouse" that doesn't have that button? Is it weird? Does it bother those that are used to it to not have it? (I primarily use my laptop in my living room... on my lap. So, though I am aware I could just attach an actual mouse for that click button, it is rare that I am able to use one).

[@RuzlB]

Hey Jarrod, how do you think the 2070 maxq version would stack up against the MSI P65?

[@chachacamel]

I just received my MAG-15, I also have newest Dell XPS 15 and MSI PS65 Stealth. I am comparing all of them together after doing all the updates on all of them, 9750H and 1660Ti on the MAG and the MSI, and GTX1650 on the Dell. I love when I can use the Fn function keys without having to press the Fn key and you cannot do that on either the MSI or the MAG but at least on the MSI the screen brightness and volume buttons are on the arrow keys so it is a one hand operation. That is a huge deal to me because it is something you touch everyday. I don't like how the MSI doesn't have Windows Hello or fingerprint that the other two have. But those are design choices the companies made. One thing that I cannot understand with the laptops is their battery life. While they all have large battery sizes (approx KWh MSI 84, MAG 93, Dell 94). Running all of them undervolted at the same -.145V. I turned on a full screen 1080p KZbin video in the most battery conscious setting (Fan Off as well), according to BatteryMon the Dell is discharging at 8000mW while both the MSI and MAG discharge at 12000mW....THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE How does Dell do that? Even when I force the CPU clocks of the other two laptops to stay at 800Mhz the power drain is the same. Anyone know?

[@JarrodsTech]

Not sure but worth mentioning older bios for the mag had a known bug where battery would drain faster, I show it in my comparison video, so worth ensuring its all updated.

[@chachacamel]

@@JarrodsTech yes all the updates on all the laptops were performed including the BIOS on MAG15

[@IBuzz7]

For a content creator, would you recommend that model or the Aero 15 Oled?

[@JarrodsTech]

This model is good I'd prefer it myself but if you want OLED the Aero is definitely the way to go it does look nicer

[@lindisopaj]

Ive been looking at laptops non-stop for three days and I came across this channel thanks god... I rly need advice. I need a powerful laptop but with good battery as I do a lot of Marketing shit, so I attend meetings etc Which means I need a good battery and not a way to noisy laptop... but I also need power as I shoot and Edit footage for clients. I do some gaming now and then too but I have a desktop for that... I live in Sweden so we dont have a lot of options but we do have a Nordic version of the MAG15... and the Msi GS66. Basically Im leaning towards the MAG15 due to the battery (I dont need 240hz screen vs the 144hz on the mag unless the colors are wayyy better for editing).... My biggest issue now is if I should go for the MAG 15 with a 1660ti or 2070max-q? Ive asked around several places but cant get any help... would the 2070 be that Much better and would it drain more battery/produce heat? Im on a tight budget as I just graduated but I rly need a computer to work on. Thanks 🙏

[@JarrodsTech]

This sounds decent for that, check the XMG Fusion, they sell in Europe same model and from memory they might do custom keyboards. I compared 1660 Ti and 2070 Max-Q in this chassis here, the 2070 isn't really worth it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3mqYouonbiCec0

[@jean-sebastiendh1454]

Hi jarrod, what about the screen quality ? Am casual photo editor. There are promotion on the xmg fusion in Europe now. Best regards 👍

[@JarrodsTech]

Not sure if they sell it with a different or same panel, that said thought it was fine, details are from 1:33

[@joesharplin5443]

Have you tested or do you have thoughts on the new versions of the vapor that have the 3060 and 3070?

[@andrewwong829]

Hey Jarrod, thanky ou very mucn for the reviews and they are very helpful. I actually am choosing between Acer Nitro 5 and Aftershock. Given that the specs are the same, do you think that the Aftershock ones usually have better cooling system in place than Nitro 5? Does it matter?

[@JarrodsTech]

Which model? This one specifically? Yes, plus it's undervolted at stock and overall has much better features like big battery, mech keyboard, SD slot, and thunderbolt 3.

[@andrewwong829]

@@JarrodsTech Thanks Jarrod. I am actually using Nitro 5 AN515-54-77NT as the benchmark (your video helps!). But I have already bought it as I just realised that there is quite a good offer here. What can I do to help the Nitro 5 to cool down a bit while playing? Do I just need to put it on a stand, or a laptop cooling pad does help? Many thanks!

[@andrewwong829]

Speaking of Aftershock, it seems that the reputation locally is so so...

[@JarrodsTech]

Undervolt the CPU + use a stand will give the best improvement.

[@gRaffycs]

I’m really interested in this product. Would this be good for 3D sculpting/creations and large photo;editing as well, please?

[@fruggnuts]

Hi Jarrod, Can i inquire is the type-c Thunder-port / HDMI connected directly to the NVIDIA Graphics card or the internal graphic cards first ? How can i see this or test this out ?

[@jank.5163]

Great review, keep up the great work. I quiet like this machine. It's a pitty that they just didn't mange to put better speakers, like those from the g14, into it. I'm in the Market for an laptop right now. If it would have come with an ryzen 4000HS this would have been an instant buy. A colored or white version would also be an nice addition. Probably an unpopular opinion: They should have brought that one out as convertible. There is simply no product like this at this Pricepoint. With an Ryzen 4000 XMG/Eluktronics/Aftershock would probably be able to keep that price, so you would be in the price-class of an Surface Pro. It would probably be a nobrainer for engineering students, who want to take Notes in lectures, but also want powerfull hardware for CAD and Numbercrunching or people in illustration/design.

[@andreszhoutsang9645]

Low volume speakers were more of a software issue, after updates and the addition of sound blaster compatibility the speakers improved very much, although there are still better ones out there

[@TabalugaDragon]

Jarrod, you you think you could get the new Eluctronics Matrix RP for testing? I would really love to know how the eluctroboosted 2060 compares to the normal ones!

[@JarrodsTech]

twitter.com/patriciamae_jr/status/1261694635493097472 😎

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@JarrodsTech so do they want to? lol