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[@seandollery7392]

I love how Arteta ended his press conference by saying to all the reporters that not one of them asked him a tactical question and all they did was try to get him to talk about certain moments in the game that went against us and his thought on that which completely ruined the beautiful game. Also, a great performance from the team and so proud of the boys for putting in a crazy defensive shift in the second half. Feels like a win stolen in the end, but we take the draw, and we move. Love for the love to you guys. COYG!!

[@jefffalloon]

He also said, tongue in cheek, that he expected 100 games to be played this season 10 v 11 or 9 v 10.

[@MerilP71]

Jesus costed us with that corner. 😢😊

[@86chilu]

Seeing Arsenal return to being a contender has been worth the wait. Been a Gooner in Kenya since 1998. LFG!

[@LeechyPlatinum]

A week ago the narrative was “grandad Partey” or “he’s lost his legs” yesterday against Manchester City Thomas Partey was absolutely outstanding! Energy levels, when to press and when to drop, calm amongst the chaotic moments and covering for his team mates yards. Lads I was absolutely thrilled with Partey yesterday as you can probably tell. Easy motm for me but I will also give honorary mentions to EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! IMMENSE!!!

[@jonnyteejonnytee889]

James, if you listened to the audio, throughout the second half, Jorginho was the one shouting instructions to the players because the half was played on the edge of our box. So, to your point, he was the extension of Arteta's mouth throughout the second half. Talking about unsung heroes.

[@jeffbeasley8283]

Saying Martinelli wasn't good yesterday proves Jordan just watches highlights. He was constantly burning Walker 1st half creating chances and got an assist. Shut up Jordan

[@qualik2538]

He always watches the highlights then comes out with these STUPID takes trying to come across as smart insight. 🤡

[@lewismartin4306]

Jordan talks too much crap

[@qualik2538]

@@lewismartin4306 He does, trying to sound “insightful” but comes off as a 🤡

[@juwansome441]

Didn't he have an assist? WTF Jordan?

[@danielhaerle3898]

That was the best performance Martinelli put in forever. He was consistently beating Walker and made the right decisions in the final third, was nice seeing he still has it.

[@ikeman9784]

If i hear 1 more arsenal fan talk rubbish about Partey again I'll lose my mind. He was an absolute monster yesterday. One of the best players on that field. His quick thinking got us the first goal..And he was up and down that field putting his body on the line..

[@salvasquaredmusic9997]

Thank you! Why the disrespect on him all the time? He's been an excellent player and who else could do that job in midfield for these tough games.

[@goals27]

So true, people dissed him because they had to glorify new shiny toy 'rice' since last season so dissing him was necessary according to them but Partey is a different class. way better than jorghnio and even rice.

[@alexdowley9723]

Jordan actually says stuff for the sake of being opposed to the rest of the panel

[@Eizengoldt]

He's like a teenager who thinks being a contrarian is the sign of high intellect 🤓

[@Eric1Cartman]

I totally agree with you.

[@samati353]

That’s his role 😅

[@CrowzEye]

He made a good point about martinelli though

[@rahmanibraheem6467]

😂😂

[@ZR47EDC]

Best panel around. Seeing everyone together in person was awesome. More episodes like this please. COYG

[@ericp9614]

I agree with James with Trossard; when you look at the incident, Trossard was already in the process of kicking the ball when the whistle went, he actually holds back which changes the kick but as a referee he had a choice to call Trossard over with the captains and say to him “ look it’s seconds from half time, calm down.. Everyone would have no complaints. He would be showing his authority but at the same time understanding the game at hand.

[@ikeman9784]

Bro I couldn't have said it better. It's exactly what happened. One of the worse refereeing decisions I've seen in a game of that magnitude..

[@dansmithnodq6854]

Think anyone celebrates an stoppage time equaliser

[@ericjudges7856]

@@ikeman9784exactly ! He was completing the play. He didn’t kick it away to waste time !

[@amishjt6347]

Very well said. The most apt assessment of the situation

[@AdamAldridge-sk2fx]

Did he not make a foul before ?

[@deecunningham9719]

James with spot on analysis about the game. Turkish speaking in 2nd person. Lee giving stadium report. Jordan watching highlights.

[@Ondago24]

When we win the league, make sure to tell these City fans, if there is any, that we knew they were lacking when we saw them celebrate a draw against us in the Etihad. That's when we knew they lacked the mentality.

[@Paul_CTID]

same team who celebrated a 3-2 win over Bournemouth after a 90+7 minute winner

[@ArsenalReels]

@@Paul_CTIDatleast we won..

[@bradpriest1840]

There aren’t any fans over the age of 8 mate and the overweight hooligans that pretend each week probably being sent a cheque each week from city corruption board to fill the seats, soulless club

[@TrentYNWA]

Bro win “something” first

[@superflyjimmysnucka9068]

You lot never learn 😂😂

[@khavan25]

Jordans point of view is always of someone that hasn't really played at any sort of level. Not his fault just your view of football is formed from just watching. If you've never really been in that situation at any level of football grassroots or pro its hard to understand that fight of playing with 10 men against a better team, its undervalued from the media.

[@Eric1Cartman]

You are right brother 💯

[@ikeman9784]

​@@Eric1CartmanAbsolutely undervalued. What's even makes it more punishing for arsenal players is we've had a tough away game 2 days prior and had to travel back to London and then travel up to Manchester. All those take a toll on you so it wasn't a coincidence we started the game so sluggish smh

[@joemadeira1993]

trossard kicks the ball the way he did because we were in the 52nd min of the game and stoppage time was 6mins... so should have ended at 51mins.. trossard was booting the ball to END THE HALF.... he kicked it 0.84 seconds after the referees whistle. there's a shot of trossard kicking the ball whilst oliver still has the whistle in his mouth...... how is that delaying a restart especially when bernardo silva was down? You can't expect players to react immediately all the time... there needs to be common sense applied to the law where the word "delaying" is down to interpretation...

[@MJR.99]

Michael Oliver had no choice but to send Trossard off. It was a clear and obvious opportunity to earn that 20k he got from Mansour in Saudi.

[@victorsomosu123]

​@@MJR.99🤣🤣🤣

[@christopherhooper-callcut2090]

Saying that means they can apply common sense when not sending city players off and can still send our players off 😂😂😂

[@Ashutosh-ahhkgdo]

Same ref Michael Oliver didn’t give Slobozlai second yellow 2 weeks back. Same ref didn’t give Kovacic a red card twice in last game

[@banksy6462]

Jordan didn't watch the game, he never does. He caught the highlights as always.

[@Eizengoldt]

Why do they even have this guy on? This guy's actively lowering the quality of discussion every single time

[@butteryslugz]

He either pays to be on the show, or has some dirt on aftv and blackmails them to put him on. Weird to think he only watches highlights

[@curtis_wdrw]

2:42 The pure strength Lee showed not saying “I’ll be really honest” 😂

[@tc1510]

When haarland threw the ball at Gabriel's head I thought oliver was going to give Gabriel a yellow card for delaying the restart

[@emz_187]

🎯

[@MorryFauday]

Turkish is a great facilitator!

[@williams8152]

Turkish is absolutely right when rivals fans wanna take advantage that saying it’s red card etc they should know it gonna happen to them sooner or later 💪🏾

[@darrenmac5819]

Oliver was also the ref in Man City vs Chelsea FA cup semifinals. Jack Grielish had a hand ball in the box and no penalty

[@ToxicMuscularity.]

Gabi & Ricardo getting the plaudits for the equaliser and rightly so, but can we talk about Thomas? That goal would never happen without his intelligence and quick thinking, carbon copy of the goal we scored against man cheaty last season at our place. the guy is quality and we're lucky to have him in our team. Love you guys

[@patob8885]

It was 0.84 seconds between blowing the whistle and trossard kicking the ball.

[@trentmadagua215]

Big up you guys🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Plus, really appreciate this view. Felt way closer to the show and for that, I thank you🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@daveprin8954]

Great to see you all together, it was just missing Jordan's missus walking through the studio 😂

[@daveprin8954]

Thanks for the shout out Jordan

[@maxymax32]

“The Michael Oliver rap sheet does not look good” might be the best thing Jordan’s ever said on the pod

[@acediamond7524]

Why does everyone keep saying Calafiori is not a fullback? He's played more career games at Left Back than Centre Back, he can play both positions exceptionally well! So proud of the team though, they really gave it everything they had!

[@reecea5432]

Whilst that's correct, he emerged last season as a better player at LCB. He's not quite hit the heights at LB yet hence the comments.

[@565656gooner]

​@@reecea5432pretty sure he hit the heights yesterday

[@acediamond7524]

@@reecea5432 he did a great job at centre back and if the partnership between Gabriel and Saliba wasn’t as good as it was I’d love to see him there but just like Ben White adapted to play right back superbly I think for the balance of the team if we had a back 4 which included Calafiori at left back with Timber/White right back that’s the best back 4 in the league. That should be our starting lineup.

[@reecea5432]

@@acediamond7524 yeah I'm just giving the context as to why they say he's not a LB until there is a bigger sample size at this level.

[@amishjt6347]

I see Calafiori being the best fit for the Shaka role, he would explode in that role and provide additional cover to the left side of the field.

[@joebraun8696]

In person podcast was great, you guys should do this more!

[@TheeChronicle]

So much better when they are in the studio

[@davdm9116]

Lee. I love that shirt but I don’t think I can pull it off. You DO. Turkish is always fly and I am happy to see him wearing merch again. I know he has a collection. But Jordan looks like he is from outer space and James. James. Why are you wearing that color blue? Also it washes you out. Cmon. Big Ups. You all are and always have been brilliant. Love this pod.

[@Bharani20]

Jordan trying his best to bring the rival perspective regarding the corrupt refs but his acting needs to get better.

[@P.T18]

You can take the man out of talk sport, but you can’t take the talk sport out the man

[@Eizengoldt]

​@@P.T18oh he's a talksport guy ? Yeeesh that explains everything

[@chheelomama]

This is by far my favourite pod on the planet. It's so good that you guys are in the same room when doing this, it's so wholesome and a totally different vibe. Although i thought it would eliminate Jordan turning off his screen or being distracted it looks like he has the same attention span problems as ramsdale. Man is watching highlights while the pod is live bloody shameless! Atleast Lee can't search for comments of the day while the pod is going on. Much love all the way from New Zealand!

[@mannyxander4456]

Turkish i actually saw it on skysports, Trossard kicked the ball 0.84 secs after the ref whistle. Less than a freaking sec. Shambles

[@martinoyens712]

Just a bit of extra insight about the whole Jorginho on the sideline and Lewis-Skelly yellow. I was watching the brazilian broadcast of the game and one of the reporters was behind raya’s goal. He said that Jorginho was screaming for Raya to go down and fake an injury when we were under pressure, but because he was far Raya didn’t listen, so he told Lewis-Skelly to go behind the goal to tell raya that. That’s why he got a yellow.😅

[@an55el]

Lot of great points brought up, Rice’s unique role for this game, a clear game plan for the first half and having a backup plan for the red card whether it was instructions during halftime or a set plan for red card situations, etc. Amazing show again lads love the banter and I always look forward to the Fourever . Love from Texas

[@acediamond7524]

Great point Jordan made about referees using common sense, it does open up a whole can of words! As my mum use to say to me "common sense ain't all that common"

[@oladayofabunmi690]

Jordan, Martinelli had a choice of passing the ball to Calafiori or cross into the box. It is an assist.

[@punchingsnow]

Jordan's an energy vampire. I don't think he even likes football, he's just here to feed on all of us.

[@deadlypalms]

Very excited at seeing the development of Calafiori and Martinelli - to replicate something akin to the White/Saka dynamic would be magnificent. We might be seeing something special develop here.

[@katlehomofokeng_47]

I thoroughly enjoyed this live pod with all the guys together. Best of them all

[@keesspek8419]

Trossard didn’t want to kick the ball away. He even hold back when he heard the whistle

[@Cheezy-Gunner]

Absolutely love the show guys, I'm in such a good mood after that arsenal performance and the week we had.

[@abdulali4809]

I missed the live, I would’ve sent this as a super chat. Rice 2nd Yellow at Brighton. We were all told VAR don’t get involved with Yellows but all you hear from the VAR team is “he’s left you no choice” “keep yourself safe”

[@samuelphilp7947]

I'm sure in the audio it's the the linesman or 4th official. Anyways the problem is that they all sound so desperate to send rice off

[@ekyei]

As a Chelsea fan, I watch this Arsenal team, and they remind me of a Mourinho team. They are hard to beat, and they have the nastiness. If they had a striker, they would have won this league easily. I don't like it at all.

[@tris87don16]

That’s the only area City edge us out & out Striker, know how & winning aside.

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

You need a good defence to win the Premier. Simples

[@lgs888]

city are rattled lol.

[@MerilP71]

Im loving seeing 👀 brodda T enjoying and loving wearing merchs !!😅😂👍😆😁🙃😉

[@stillwave_kw9691]

Good show today much brighter and grounded than last week. COYG.

[@Kay-p123]

Turkish did the Jose Mourinho "3 for me and 2 for them" for his prediction league stars lmao

[@JayPatel-sz5vo]

Turkish with the Mourinho press conf moment, RESPECT respect man, 2 stars for me, 2 for the rest combined. LOL

[@cyd4rk]

Thanking James for mentioning multiple times and everywhere that Trossard wasn't at fault here. He was genuinely attempting a pass to Martinelli who had lots of space in front of him. It was a perfect opportunity to counter. But most of our fans are fixated on the point that he booted it away which is simply wrong.

[@marthamydear5869]

This was an epic shows guys, much appreciated ❤

[@wayneford1981]

Lee is right Oliver is crooked no doubt

[@jonpapworth5360]

Loved the show, nice to see Jordan being part time journalist and part time jockey 🏇 😂

[@curtis_wdrw]

You forgot the David Luis red against wolves

[@davidorlebar3942]

16:12 OMG. Forever Arsenal on top form. James should represent the case against Michael Oliver in a courtroom. Lee should be the star witness, Turkish can provide Hennessy for refreshments, and Jordan can represent the defence by agreeing with them and adding the inevitable... But your honour Zelda was a great series. Keep up the amazing work. Such fun

[@sem8028]

😂😂

[@clipped6963]

How the F*CK are we gonna win this league when the refs are against us. Don’t wanna be a beg but the same ref that gave Trossard a yellow didn’t give sabozli one for the same thing last week. 2 reds in 5 PL games resulting in 4 points dropped. No one will remember how unfair they were but that’s already enough to not being the ACTUAL GAP over city we should have. They never get bad decisions I need their karma to come asap 🙏

[@brandonG4442]

Stop acting like victims. Refs are not against you. It was a second yellow clearly

[@seanbentley1737]

Gotta agree with Jordan (first time ever), putting gabi on the half way line would have pushed 2 to 3 players back with him giving an outlet and removing a few players from our box and making defending easier

[@husseindjumida6568]

Love the show change i would love to stay like this.

[@sonsofaarau]

Great Pod! But guys please sort out the noise the mics pick up when you touch the table... much love! ❤

[@IDHANYT]

Haven't even finished the intro and I already know Jordan is gonna be defending the ref.

[@katlego8539]

Big Gabi’s expressions and body language after the game gave me the confidence I needed to think this team finally believe in themselves

[@CharlieHammondx]

The performance gave me positivity we are winning the league. Watching Pep kick the chair, Haaland lose his rag, Stones and Bernardo cry to the media. That confirmed to me we are winning it.

[@andiewalsh6887]

Jordan the last few weeks has been fire keep it up 👌🏻👌🏻

[@nishantbhatia4031]

Guys you should do this more often, brilliant stuff 👏

[@Kyle-ev4cx]

0.8 seconds after the whistle is crazy. I'm sure the sending off didn't take away more time than gathering the ball from where Trossard kicked it to.

[@grtalex16]

Calafiori shot was David Luiz-esque.

[@johannmartin520]

Oh, shut up. An assist is an assist 26:23

[@mohammedkuranga3469]

James do you know the chef? I was about to ask do you know head of Security lol

[@mkRowland]

Here's an interesting angle to look a trossard's booking that I haven't heard people consider, it was already seconds past the stoppage time that was added, from that point onwards the ref should have applied a lil bit of context knowing that any whistle heard outside the opposition area could easily be interpreted as signaling the end of the half. It's possible that trossard thought the whistle was for half time and as we would normally see some players do, booted the ball away. This imo shows how poor and incompetent the referees have now become and it's sad that a beautiful game of football was ruined in just a split second.

[@austinomondi284]

Ok, we are calling in the firemen. The podcast is sizzlin' and the studio is on fire! I love these studio sessions. No Lee in a spa in Dubai No cute girlfriends in the background No one boasting a priceless jersey collection (hate him for that) And no geniuses showing off silly lamps and pets Just kidding. Love you all

[@paulfranklin6780]

Great pod, brilliant discussion. Turkish has made a major point. The game is being ruined, we need the Rugby union model. VAR officials need to watch the game alongside the ref, and make decisions with all the officials. Not just the person in the middle.

[@amishjt6347]

I see Calafiori being a better fit in the Xhaka role. He would explode in that position and provide better cover to tge left side of the field. Arteta should try him there with Timber & Martenneli in support.

[@knicksworldwide4011]

Ronaldinho perfected that technique, Ask David Seaman lol

[@KDepz]

James is the best arsenal pundits/youtuber With Bhavs a close second

[@TheGoonerverse]

❤️

[@musaadeyemi8231]

David Luiz uses that technique in shooting

[@JayPatel-sz5vo]

Mikel said it- we better see 50-100 games follow this letter of the law bs and there better be 20-30 players sent off. Keep following the law and ruin the spirit of game, crazy the whole point of having laws is to preserve the spirit and make sure no one team gets an unfair advantage over the other. Great show!!

[@jacobc2563]

We should be incredibly proud of the result. The wider football community knows that we were robbed by a disgraceful decision, and knows that City are NEVER going to be respected as a team. Too many question marks around their conduct and the bias of the officiating. COYG! Let’s be proud.

[@sofiankhan8286]

31 years ago almost to the day, 21st September 2003, the battle of old trafford. tense game, arsenal player sent off, we draw, our backs to the wall in the aftermath, we galvanise, and you know the rest. did we just have a battle at the etihad moment i wonder.

[@pratham014]

Sometimes I wonder if Jordan is really an Arsenal fan

[@markharrison3096]

More confident. Proud of the lads. Annoyed with refereeing inconsistencies. We bossed them again. We can do this. COYFG

[@IbbyB.]

Best podcast on the Internet bar none. Live shows are an absolute treat.

[@jaycee5750]

Big 6 then this for me

[@IbbyB.]

​@jaycee5750 for me this one above Big 6 because it's an all arsenal podcast and still has the banter. Big 6ix fantastic too, my 2nd favourite.

[@Wren_The_Ten]

I see Turkish in hackney on he’s way. 😂 I’m the ups guy

[@TurkishLDN]

I remember 👊🏼

[@MrVoicemailGuy]

Big up to the boys. Big up @TurkishLDN for plugging the Whisper it Loudly Podcast. I subbed immediately 🙌

[@adamjones90]

3 away games , 1 win & two draws against 3 massive teams with 1 days less rest travelling whilst city had 3 home games & had no travelling. Our boys done us proud.

[@14_Phoenix]

We have bernardo silva crying like a lil b*tch to every journalist that crosses his path shows that we are doing something right. They wanted us to open our legs like how liverpool did with 10 men and lost 5-0. They were crapping themselves at every corner.

[@mattthorogood1385]

For me, Trossard’s 1st yellow was never a yellow…. You’d have no players left if you dish cards out for that. The foul just prior to Trossard kicking the ball away was a Yellow all day long.

[@nicholasvarvaris2953]

Martinelli done the team thing the passed 4 games next few he can do whatever he likes to get his confidence up

[@MikiYork]

TY: I am the most deluded and blinded person on AFTV Julian: Hold my beer 🍻 Love the show boys

[@heehee4923]

Keep it up! COYG 💪

[@curtisparker2596]

Martinelli has been poor recently but he played the best he has in a while against city

[@waynenewman2950]

Versatile players 🔴💯💯👏

[@Adedayoaa]

Anyone noticed how Arteta gets someone to feign an injury so he can get the team together. Raya does it. Ramsdale did it too.

[@lewismartin4306]

Jordan really is annoying . A ref is meant to manage the game and use common sense. Not ruin it because they decide to apply the letter of the law on this occasion, but not others .

[@eaglevision09]

Right, If the ref is only there to enforce the rules of the game then they might as well just use Ai or a robot that can do a better job.

[@igam3r271]

I believe that the stance of 'Just get on with it' also contributes to the lingering stench of horrible decisions by the referees.

[@markharrison3096]

8mins in im now watching Turkish fancam 😂

[@tesfaharris7869]

I think ever since the Newcastle game where Arteta called the Ref's decision a "disgrace" alot of decisions have gone against us. With that being said Trossard should not have done what he did.

[@Stuo5353]

I still find it questionable that Michael Oliver was officiating this game or any game involving Man City given the fact of his association with the Middle East in Saudi Arabia etc. it should be that he never referees any City game or any Arab owned side in the epl! I’m not saying there is any impropriety involving money, however it must be questioned how he is allowed to continue in the epl given his obvious links to the Middle East !!

[@andreamanning1257]

Proud of the team but gutted we didn’t get the 3 points, I still haven’t recovered from the trauma of the equaliser

[@manni192]

Arsenal are clear favourites for the league. They have to win it this year and aim for period of 2-3 league titles in a row with a CL win included in that time.

[@theovibez724]

In uk arsenal fans should heavily come out and protest against referees

[@tt11138]

that’ll change when a decision goes your way won’t it?

[@sosa_8692]

Yeah its getting ridiculous now, especially when we see the opposite team do it first but we end up receiving the card first

[@katlego8539]

For my own sanity I need us to win the league I was so guttered we drew on Sunday because I was desperate for the win. Please Arsenal and please to God we have suffered for too long as fans and yet we’re still here supporting the team every week ❤️