Why isn't the fishy guy winning? Rating 8 might not be great, but atleast it's more than Alpha's zero.
@dicemaster65186 жыл бұрын
pu tum ptzz.
@philipr15676 жыл бұрын
Brilliant comment. Best laugh I've had all week (including last week!)
@Envengerx6 жыл бұрын
Haha
@pastortroy4life5 жыл бұрын
This took me way too long to get.
@wompastompa36925 жыл бұрын
Elder god tier joke.
@ninjocswtf58336 жыл бұрын
If you were able to see that the light is shining on his hair congratulations you are a great moth
@ultrainstinctshaggy6696 жыл бұрын
Bröther... pass me the lämp
@rajdatta74546 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dominicpozzo29916 жыл бұрын
You forget. IF he speaks as a hypothesis, THEN he must finish as a hypothesis
@TheTinnin6 жыл бұрын
Hi agadmator I think you are missing the point of the AlphaZero vs Stockfish series as well. AlphaZero is basically using the Google super computer and Stockfish doesn't run on that hardware; Stockfish was basically running on what would be my laptop. If you wanna have a match that's comparable you have to have Stockfish running on a super computer as well. AlphaZero would not have been able to reach the advantageous positions here in many cases if Stockfish was running on a super-computer.
@sharang78586 жыл бұрын
@@TheTinnin boy you are so wrong...
@ulissemini54925 жыл бұрын
tal: *sacs queen and 3 rooks then wins* everyone: its just normal tal play computer: *sacs pawn* everyone: *faints*
@sujatasharma85605 жыл бұрын
Yes.... That's the actuality.....
@slamalamadingdangdongdiggy52684 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see any human sac a pawn to stockfish and win
@anilakhan12034 жыл бұрын
@@slamalamadingdangdongdiggy5268 yup alpha sac 2 pawns in position where stock fish had seemingly invincible pawn push on queen side and alpha wins
@wesleychen44084 жыл бұрын
Nowadays chess is much more solid and people believe that many of Tals sacrifices wouldn’t work. Alpha Zero proving that sacrifices still have potential is very interesting.
@knightofchess69004 жыл бұрын
@@slamalamadingdangdongdiggy5268 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@HasiburRahman3605 жыл бұрын
I always like to imagine Stockfish as a demigod of chess who laughs at peasant humans for not playing machine moves to win and there comes literal god Alpha Zero smirking and obliterates Stockfish with a human move.
@cadespaulding38375 жыл бұрын
who is Lc0
@taufiqal-kahfi86055 жыл бұрын
Well said
@InattentiveADHB4 жыл бұрын
The prophet has spoken. That'd make a sick film.
@ArchanaSingh-wj5bd3 жыл бұрын
@@cadespaulding3837 Lc0 is leela chess zero
@jtolam3 жыл бұрын
Lc0/Leela is actually open source and based on alpha
@vasilismavroudis42116 жыл бұрын
Just the hearing of the word ''Tal'' is enough to brighten your day
@piguy31446 жыл бұрын
i think you meant to say word but the sentence makes sense nonetheless
@Jay0neDE6 жыл бұрын
eh, Tal runes aren't that great
@mubaraksenju75216 жыл бұрын
I agree on what others say "show us a game where Stockfish wins", but I couldnt agree more when you said that it's not about who won the match, but how creative both players play their game and refute each other's plan. LOVE U AGAD!!
@DezDav46 жыл бұрын
The one that people want to see is the one where Stockfish kept sacrificing pieces and won. It was pretty creative and entertaining. Here's Suren showing the game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXvKg2efhcqsrrM
@Maharani19915 жыл бұрын
@@DezDav4 +
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
@@DezDav4 The only way SF sacs pieces is if it is not a true sac. ie. if it can calculate a mate or later regaining material achieving a won position.
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Nope there are two different types of sacs and I didn't invent the idea. btw Just because a sac can't be determined 100% to be sound does not mean that it is a blunder.
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Rudolf Spielmann for one.
@DVal-bl7hm6 жыл бұрын
With all the imbalances that Alpha Zero makes, I would be really interested to see how Alpha Zero would play against itself.
@MineCraftrules175 жыл бұрын
I mean.... That is how it learns
@V8SupersQirreL5 жыл бұрын
@@MineCraftrules17 It is amazing that alpha zero got so good just by playing - don't know - millions of games against irself. I did not get better by playing against myself, the only thing was - i won nearly all the games exept some draws...
@tehjokur70415 жыл бұрын
@@V8SupersQirreL I would assume that Alpha Zero doesn't really play against itself. At least for Deepmind's Alpha Star (the Starcraft 2 "AI") it's the case that there exist different versions of the "AI", called agents, playing against each other. Also the learning process doesn't really resemble human behavior. The engine starts playing by just knowing the rules of chess and then two randomized versions (regarding the decisions) start playing against each other without being biased by knowing any strategies.
@V8SupersQirreL5 жыл бұрын
@@tehjokur7041 I guess, i don't really understand what you mean - so you must be right! My english is not the best, what i told was the version i heard, i believed, and it was kind of realistic. Btw - my computer-knowledge is as good as my english!
@joshuaspector81825 жыл бұрын
@@V8SupersQirreL I found it was very difficult to play against myself in chess, so long as I was making an honest attempt with both pieces.
@patricksalhany87876 жыл бұрын
Alpha He protec He attac But most importantly He pawn sac
@simslaurs5 жыл бұрын
I chuckled!
@ernestopanza41945 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@bustarogers99905 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me where the hell that "he protec , he attac , but" line came from????. It's every freaking where.
@simslaurs5 жыл бұрын
@@bustarogers9990 It's a meme.
@Dante203215 жыл бұрын
Patrick Salhany underrated comment 😂
@JJ-kl7eq6 жыл бұрын
8:56 - Stockfish’s most powerful piece on h6 = A queen in prison Riker’s Island Correctional Facility = a prison in Queens
@emsnewssupkis64536 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA. Yup. And there are sometimes queens in that prison for rolling customers...
@takatotakasui83076 жыл бұрын
J J good one
@lEe-sc1rd6 жыл бұрын
I legit live 2 blocks away from rikers island in queens NY.. Where can i find this queen ;)
@sufferationist4 жыл бұрын
Only problem is that Rikers is in the Bronx, hahaha...
@cadulino833 жыл бұрын
"Playing basketball in Pelican Bay!!!"
@aliteomandemir59726 жыл бұрын
Only dislike is from stockfish 8
@viski-6 жыл бұрын
Alpha deleted that dislike
@SenorQuichotte6 жыл бұрын
Right... Only a moron would play against SF 8. SF 10 will crush you in half the moves
@RuudJH6 жыл бұрын
These games were from early 2018. By now, analyses by SF9 and SF10 have discarded quite a few of SF8's choices. Looks like the programmers have made SF wiser too. AZ will still crush the newer versions, but not by this margin.
@1345-v2e6 жыл бұрын
Stockfish is reigning world champion. AZ refuses to play Stockfish on even terms(like TCEC). Stockfish crushes everyone(including Leela) they put in front of it. Connect the dots folks.
@EebstertheGreat6 жыл бұрын
@Brad Heilman That's the anarchy symbol, bro, not atheism. If you're going to be an asshole, at least don't be a stupid asshole.
@Sasha12345755 жыл бұрын
I found the move Rook c7, wasn`t so hard..... after i watched this vid 3 times.
@gioser30216 жыл бұрын
TALpha
@John_II5 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was being clever Tal-pha Zero... :P
@gioser30215 жыл бұрын
@@John_II TALpha requieres no zero because it has Tal's left hemisphere which adds so much elo not to permit a numerical quantification in any field 😂
@isawicameiconqueredandcame37085 жыл бұрын
@@gioser3021 science, bitch!
@andrujo4 жыл бұрын
Alpha ZeTal
@detlefschmidt67894 жыл бұрын
I think that this all is propaganda. In do not believe that Stockfisch is so weak against alpha z.
@MrSJL726 жыл бұрын
Honor of this e5-sacrifice, followed by f5, belongs to late Kaarle Ojanen. It is even named after him; every chessplayer in Finland knows the thing called "Ojasen oivallus" (=Ojanen's epiphany). This idea has been played in some number of occasions, but he was the one who found it first.
@dannygjk4 жыл бұрын
You are speaking of an idea a strategical motif. No one can say who saw this idea first it may have been first played in 1485. (Unless you mean in that exact position?)
@trevorrogers953 жыл бұрын
You know, the thing!
@gladJonas6 жыл бұрын
Is stockfish never on white?
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
All the matches were 50/50 proportion white and black.
@reverently4 жыл бұрын
Lol weird seeing a channel like this on a channel like this
@FourOneNineOneFourOne3 жыл бұрын
I think stockfish managed to draw most (all?) of the games it played as white, so perhaps it's not as interesting to review :)
@ericmol56983 жыл бұрын
The creator of Stock fish is a proud sponsor of Woke and black lives matter and does not appreciate your racist inspired comment. White men have gone first just too many times in chess and that's going to stop.
@hiimemily3 жыл бұрын
@@ericmol5698 the right can't meme
@kilimanjarno6 жыл бұрын
Exactly a Tal move; we've seen him make moves just like that. Thank you for finding that move in the huge release of Alpha Zero games.
@elginngzhing40266 жыл бұрын
Watching a video overseas on holiday in China, so I had to buy data and get a VPN just to watch you, almost 1 min in when u uploaded, at 1am after a long flight and a long day, because your content is that great. Thanks and keep it up Adgamator! :) Also #suggestion apparently there was a game that Stockfish won against A0 where Stockfish was super aggressive and won brilliantly. Please:)
@mylifematters8586 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the game . It’s because they set up an opening book that wasn’t real
@archibaldhaddock52776 жыл бұрын
That‘s some dedication there! Well done!
@rahulmalhan22626 жыл бұрын
Isn't using KZbin illegal there.. Or it's allowed for foreigners??
@elginngzhing40266 жыл бұрын
@@rahulmalhan2262 it's not illegal but most Google related things and things like Instagram are blocked. They have a country wide firewall that prevents this
@basilecandelon2926 жыл бұрын
@@rahulmalhan2262 There is a firewall but when you are a foreigner (and even for Chinese but they do not really need it and they face harder reprimands) it is easy to get a VPN and access to any website
@geckomaniac38016 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I was scared you wouldnt upload today. I need this daily content hahaha
@kagankuscu1086 жыл бұрын
(Nervous laughter)*
@zwischendurundmoll39686 жыл бұрын
jea basicly, its like drugs for me 😂
@KeepHimAtBay6 жыл бұрын
ITS EVERYDAY BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@paranchoy60776 жыл бұрын
You should watch videos from IMs or GMs. These shallow vids by this 2000 guy who barely speaks English don't add much to chess. He doesn't understand the games he shows on any level
@geckomaniac38016 жыл бұрын
@@paranchoy6077 I don't only watch the videos to get mind blown by the interpretation of the chess moves. I watch him because he is funny, wholehearted and entertaining. And I think his subscriber count speaks for itself. If you look for a deep analysis of these games you might be right, but most people don't. We just want to be entertained. There's nothing wrong with that. :)
@gurtejgill6 жыл бұрын
Great game. At first I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch a game between engines, but after seeing these moves and your brilliant explanation of the ideas behind them I'm looking forward to watching more!
@vrebds24846 жыл бұрын
14:29 you can even blunder, blunder , mate in 1❓❓#️⃣ *Always my style to get checkmate* 😎😎😎
@shirishsharma83726 жыл бұрын
Tal's spirit is in alpha.
@arthurnorcome39676 жыл бұрын
The anime is coming soon
@arthurnorcome39675 жыл бұрын
@@bustarogers9990 it was a joke and I can't tell if you are upset or joking also. sheesh I should probably add a, (joke) to all my terrible joking comments to clarify
@bobbwc70113 жыл бұрын
It's so not so much Tal, but clearly Kasparow.
@kulkidspin76916 жыл бұрын
yay Finally we have the Evan's gambit on board !
@elijahm16364 жыл бұрын
Imagine in 30 years, GMs who grew up learning chess by Alpha Zero
@bobbwc70113 жыл бұрын
Alpha0 plays like Kasparow and Iwantschuk.
@thetntsheep40756 жыл бұрын
12:08 "And it will be a very nice draw." Perfect 😁
@dominicdo27196 жыл бұрын
The foresight of that rook to c7 move is brilliant. On the surface it seems like a harmless repositioning of the rook, but after a few moves and the exchange of the queens, it becomes a positional monster. It's beautiful
@yonigolombek33356 жыл бұрын
Ahhh it's so satisfying to hear in that position stockfish resigned the game
@mightyquinn51355 жыл бұрын
I have to say i was away from xhess for about 6 months and in that time it seems your analysis which was excellent has gotten even better
@rockybhagat6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful maneuver in the centre... Loving Alpha's tactics against stockfish... you are right, future is bright for chess 👍
@sevendayoptions67046 жыл бұрын
wow! that is crazy!!! mind blown, think i replayed that c7 move like 10 times. Beautiful game, one of my favorites thus far.
@EmmEmmE7776 жыл бұрын
Tal understood everything
@ratel.miodozer6 жыл бұрын
felt *
@tristanperrow85186 жыл бұрын
is dead*
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
@@tristanperrow8518 Is English your first language? The OP used the past tense.
@rohangeorge7122 жыл бұрын
@@dannygjk lol
@worldsbiggestjosh6 жыл бұрын
These games have really been a treat. The primary themes seem to be stifling development, opening files and diagonals, and cutting pieces out of the game.
@dyBBelyBTASTIC6 жыл бұрын
1.) Go to 11:35 2.) Close your eyes 3.) Imagine Agadmator doing a impression of kermit the frog, doing a chess video 4.) Unpause the video 5.) ... Enjoy :DD
@philipr15676 жыл бұрын
I closed my eyes and imagined Kermit analysing a chess game between Beaker and Animal. How long will it take before I can get that idea out of my head?
@rmendeljacobs28326 жыл бұрын
I hate you lol
@ClearReception6 жыл бұрын
It's not easy being blacks queen.
@abdellahoummohamedhoussem38206 жыл бұрын
hhhhhhhhhh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😝😝😝
@philipr15676 жыл бұрын
@@ClearReception - brilliant! Also (courtesy of Kermit's little nephew Robin - original by A A Milne): Half way up the squares is the square where I sit
@Truthsker3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! Am getting better when I can’t play any longer I just watch:) thanks!!
@elirome69786 жыл бұрын
In some videos, like in this one, the only info in the info corner is stating that the respective corner is the info corner
@CommissionerSleer6 жыл бұрын
Stockfish 8 on i5 given a couple of minutes to think: 7:18 Stockfish only looks deeply into 26.a3 but e5, f5 feature in most of the lines. 3 moves later, it takes half a minute before it begins to score Alpha Zero's line better. 12:20 Stockfish does find and prefer 35.Rc7 straight away.
@m.peroneus48536 жыл бұрын
Commenting about a 20 minute long video after just 10 minutes. Watching level: AlphaZero
@elevengiant6 жыл бұрын
USE 2X SPEED
@m.peroneus48536 жыл бұрын
@@elevengiant thats something Stockfish would do
@Eric-xt3os6 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned some unusual move, I immediately considered e5. That's a very common thematic pawn sac against the benoni and the like. f5 alone leaves black a gaping hole for counter play, e5 forces black to plug the hole and usually with white's e4 control, black is going to have to give back the pawn to create counter-play (like Stockfish eventually did)
@moonboy58516 жыл бұрын
Please do all the games!! AlphaZero is amazing, this is a new paradigm for chess. Question - is A0 getting better with every game? Or is it at its peak?
@jestice756 жыл бұрын
I agree with the "pleasant to the human eye" part. I watched some of the engine championship matches and many were not pleasant. Like 180 moves with 30 consecutive moves just constantly adjusting 2 or 3 different pieces slightly without 3 repeats. Those games were not pleasant to the human eye.
@sungod97974 жыл бұрын
I found 4 moves in a row by Alpha, including Rc7 It made me happy
@yogi300519723 жыл бұрын
ur a god
@ritikbhimkar41222 жыл бұрын
Don't lie, rook to c7 is not possible to find for human
@sungod97972 жыл бұрын
@@ritikbhimkar4122 It is if you’re lucky
@rohangeorge7122 жыл бұрын
@@sungod9797 fax bro, i mean u can find it and dhope u are right
@inturnetexplorer80056 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for the words Alphazero and Tal
@uberneanderthal3 жыл бұрын
the rook c7 move was preparing for a position 13 moves ahead. against a ~3400 elo opponent. incredible.
@dude1576 жыл бұрын
really great that we can see these games. Thanks for your commentary /analysis, very much appreciated.
@ekarin77785 жыл бұрын
They installed tal spirit into alpha zero.
@bobbwc70113 жыл бұрын
Actually no. Alpha0 plays as if they made a copy of Garri Kasparow and gave Garri unlimited calculation power. Tal was positionally often unsound but his opponents couldn't find counterplay at the board. Kasparow was the most dynamic player and the most crushing in complex dynamic positions, while actually being positionally supersound and often demonstrating an amazing understanding of those sharp lines any other player tried to avoid. That's why it was so surprising and kind of silly that he lost against Kramnik in 2000. Instead of playing to win the match no matter what, he started a theoretical dispute on the board over the Berlin defense ...as if this was an endless match versus Karpow from the 80s. He wanted to be right yet again and break the Berlin defense by going with his head through the wall. Kramnik said he hoped for this psychological momentum vs. Kasparow because it was the only way to win. And he pulled it off, despite Kasparow being the stronger player and remaining the stronger player after 2000.
@jonathanlindsey4634 жыл бұрын
Kings Indian Defense Saemisch variation is what i love to play.. it gets crazy like this... Tal, Fischer, Morphy would all be proud
@kamon93396 жыл бұрын
When you say "Stockfish immadiately captures" i imagine a fish playing against a brain, and the fish just blitzes out a move
@TheOriginalGankstar6 жыл бұрын
This is literally paradigm shifting. Chess will witness a paradigm shift in thought and action from anyone who is growing up and learning the game right now as a child. We'll only see the full impact of these revelations embedded into human intuition and trust with the next generation of players.
@himanshusharma-lt3zg6 жыл бұрын
Good Better Best and then Antonio does the rest!!!!
@joufaxerxes79666 жыл бұрын
Great idea for the video title. Tal's resurrection...sounds wonderful .
@WildThoughtsAI5 жыл бұрын
I want to see alphazero vs alphazero. Hopefully the world doesnt end by there game
@AboudSafar5 жыл бұрын
your wish came true
@Sunil-zd4iv6 жыл бұрын
You seek brilliant jewels & this one has a golden setting of imaginative richness & extravaganza!! Thanks!!
@level86956 жыл бұрын
-> Chess has a bright future -> Humanity does not
@minsungkim67925 жыл бұрын
The first step is amazon fire :(
@hmmodi90524 жыл бұрын
this aged well
@uberneanderthal3 жыл бұрын
actually AI and nanotechnology could be used to manipulate our biology on a molecular level, unlocking potential that could far outstrip anything in the world of machinery. humans building machines superior to humans, so that machines can build humans superior to machines.
@rohangeorge7122 жыл бұрын
@@uberneanderthal :00000
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Жыл бұрын
@@uberneanderthal probably not, if you'd ever worked with it you'd know those things are extremly unreliable, they woud bess you up more times than not,
@JustForComments6666 жыл бұрын
I really like these A0 vs Stockfish games. What I'd love to see is a A0 vs A0 game
@RichardRennes6 жыл бұрын
Bring back smiley pillow please.
@philipr15676 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping Medo killed it.
@NghiaTuanLe5 жыл бұрын
You can buy 10,000 smiley pillow and put them over your desktop and monitor
@nathancobb60506 жыл бұрын
It's really nice to see alpha zero!! It's just like the title says Chess is not dead because of theory. Bobby Fischer would smile.
@loveless63845 жыл бұрын
11:58 the Knight can still go out of harms way with g5. Black's rook still moves to protect the Knight. And then white Knight to e6. I don't understand the genius behind white rook from a7 to c7. Can anyone explain?
@santiagorodriguez29404 жыл бұрын
20 moves after Rc7, When the pawn comes to d7, the rook threatens Rc8 winning the black rook. Basically Rc7 gains a key tempo for free It also hits c5 but it's not like Alpha cares about grabbing pawns :)
@manticore55254 жыл бұрын
Its a waiting move.
@artlover99996 жыл бұрын
Need more games with Alpha Zero! Thanks.
@doesntMetter16 жыл бұрын
It truly says something when a chess engines take years of learning to make a Tal move for a win 😁
@Requinix176 жыл бұрын
AlphaZero always gets stockfish in the most passive defensive positions locking in his own pieces. that queen prison is beautiful
@TheTinnin6 жыл бұрын
"captures, captures"
@jonathanrodrigues17966 жыл бұрын
Esse Alphazero parece uma junção de dos melhores jogadores da história: sacrifícios de Tal, precisão de Fischer, aperta o adversário como Karpov, tem a frieza de Carlsen e faz tudo pela atividade das peças como Kasparov. Na minha opinião o melhor jogador de xadrez que pode existir! Cadê os Br?
@DeadFishFactory6 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that the 6 games that Alpha Zero lost, it's because humans forced it to play openings that humans would play.
@guepardiez6 жыл бұрын
Not true. The main 1000-game match where AlphaZero lost 6 games was played without opening books. Further matches were played with different kinds of opening configurations (human openings, TCEC openings and Stockfish with book versus AlphaZero with no book). In those matches, AlphaZero won by similar or slightly lower margins and also lost a few games.
@MichaelWBauer4 жыл бұрын
@Time Warp this isn't really how an AI like alpha zero learns. The entire idea behind neural network based approaches to machine learning is that the resulting network will generalize onto the entire distribution of data, even when only trained on a small subset of the distribution. Alpha knows enough about strategy to understand how to play, even when it's never seen the exact state of the board before. What you're describing is actually way more similar to how a chess engine would learn. Basic engines work by just creating a type of decision tree and assigning a score to each branch based on some heuristic.
@MichaelWBauer4 жыл бұрын
@Time Warp no not really. It's slightly more complicated than what I am describing, but essentially the purpose of neural network machine learning is to train the network to recognize complex patterns in some data set (all of the games that alpha zero played while training) while at the same time making sure that the algorithm can still make relevant predictions in more generalized scenarios. If AZ could only succeed on states it has already seen, it would not be successful in any chess game against a human or stockfish (this is what would be called overfitting: the AI is only good on the specific data it has already seen). It's easy to understand this intuitively, because most chess games reach a point where that exact state has never before been seen, yet AZ still will win the vast majority of those states against any human.
@PeterPan-uf9or4 жыл бұрын
The 6 games alpha lost were because they run the current version of stockfish on the same hardware as alpha. After losing 6 games google thought it would be bad PR if alpha loses even more games so they decided to use an old version of stockfish and let it run on a cheap pc while alpha runs on a supercomputer, and voila alpha won all the other games.. alpha is practically the Tal Baron of computerchess, only winning if cheating
@billmy22514 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPan-uf9or why do I choose tal baron when there are thousands of cheaters and dozens of GMs cought cheating. Also I would rather call a cheater to someone who cheats in real life tournament than in some online match
@hcgreier60373 жыл бұрын
14:04 "No longer the knight is pinned" - Yedi master allways right he is!
@donny121able5 жыл бұрын
Watching alphazero suffocate his opponent whilst expanding positioning is genius. When will Stockfish realise if Alphazero feeds him a pawn it's a trap... Many thanks for your time in analysing and presenting these amazing games...
@LotusPeddler934 жыл бұрын
You do a really great job reviewing the games. I'm glad I found you.
@julioandresgomez32016 жыл бұрын
So, there are no interesting victories of Stockfish. Are there interesting ("creative") moves from Stockfish?
@RandomPerson-yq1qk6 жыл бұрын
From what I have heard all victories of Stockfish come from Alpha being forced into a human opening so Stockfishes victories probably arent that much through great plays but because those openings are bad for Alphas Playstyle.
@evgiz0r6 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-yq1qk it still says something about not being a complete monster :)
@RandomPerson-yq1qk6 жыл бұрын
@@evgiz0r Yeah Alpha Zero is not invincible in chess (yet) like it is in go where the only AI that can hold a candle are other AlphaGo AIs and where humans are just helpless against AlphaGo exactly because Go is so complicated that any not neural network AI has no chance and humans have an immnse disadvantage in processing power. Chess is much more close to being solved which makes conventional algorithms really strong, but again those games where A0 loses probably arent too eciting because it is probably more Alpha playing bad than Stockfish playing really good because these openings dont have those weaknesses with other engines. This seems to be a special weakness for A0 hich is great for DeepMind because that means that A0 can still improve by a lot in chess.
@carrottoponcrak6 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-yq1qk About half of the loses I've seen from AlphaZero came from it not wanting to accept a three-fold draw so it pushed on even with it then being in a worse position
@RandomPerson-yq1qk6 жыл бұрын
@@carrottoponcrak Interesting. Is that from the current AlphaZero or from the old ones? I havent read the papers myself, but I have seen numerous comments stating that all losses came from the games where it had to do human openings. Maybe the evaluation/policy network is really inaccurate in those bord states because they are in the developed early game and therefor still quite complex and the neural network has almost zero experience with them because it discarded them quite quickly. This could mean that A0 thinks a board state to be much better than it really is which makes it logical to push for a win. Are those pushes still very early? Because a push that puts you into a worse position (in terms of material for example) can increase winning percentage and in difference to stockfishes programming A0s evaluation network is only predicting winning probabilities of a board state. maybe what I am speculating here is compltely false. No matter what the reason is I highly expect DeepMind to find that out and try to improve on that. There was a similar problem in AlphaGo Lee where it misjudged boardstates for many turns and therefore made really bad moves.
@jaimeduncan61676 жыл бұрын
It seems so simple, the way if finds counter play and opportunities.
@OriginalAimbot6 жыл бұрын
What's up with Google providing all the content creaters with alpha zero games? Whats the idea here?
@AstralS7orm6 жыл бұрын
Marketing, d'oh. They probably want to sell DeepMind's thingamabob for some other purpose, such as machine translation or phone calls.
@madgick36 жыл бұрын
Publicity for sure. But I'm sure they're also quite proud of their work and what it's producing. I'd be desperate to share them if I worked there
@yuza10326 жыл бұрын
A big part of research is getting financial and public support to keep doing what they do, and hopefully sell it. Lot of potential for this technology, Chess and Go are just one of the many areas that have benefited from it and the perfect place to showcase it.
@rohithegde17956 жыл бұрын
Hey agadmator, it'll be awesome if you make a video on Chess theories, and how some needs to be broken (like alpha does) and how with theory one can develop the openings without even knowing openings much. Thank you.
@TheHigherSpace6 жыл бұрын
The stockfish win against the french defense was spectacular come on ...
@carrottoponcrak6 жыл бұрын
It was a janky french lol. White had too much
@John-p7y7b6 жыл бұрын
To be honest I haven't enjoyed chess as much as this in quite a long time after watching the A0 matches. Im really looking forward to the day we can watch live matches between two creative AI`s with analysis from human grandmasters.Their passion for the game actually makes it even more enjoyable to watch.
@firhanstyle82716 жыл бұрын
HELLO EVERYONE!
@rilum976 жыл бұрын
HELLO EVERYONE! HELLO FIRHAN STYLE!
@Vivungisport6 жыл бұрын
Hello hello😊
@georgecalaunan24976 жыл бұрын
that's how a Tal move to brighten up my day.. thanks Agad.
@yiuqwfj5 жыл бұрын
@12:20 Instead of asking us to pause the video, he explains like for 20 seconds that he doesn't want to waste time?! 😂
@CleanTeamSolutions6 жыл бұрын
Love the video title! Love from.....London!
@sreepravan78466 жыл бұрын
so alpha zero also watches agadmator huh??
@vishnuvenkatesh75926 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the next generation of human chess that will follow this. It's really exciting. Thanks for sharing this Antonio!
@davidereale11836 жыл бұрын
Guys does someone know where to watch the london chess classic?
It would be interesting if you could display stockfish's evaluation of the position after each move. I'm curious to see whether stockfish ever thinks it's better and just how fast it loses its advantage.
@williamcarr17706 жыл бұрын
I liked the video, but I have to nitpick: you never really explained why Rc7 was such a good move -- even with the white rook on a7, ..Re8 could be met by Ng5, Rd8, Ne6, Re8, Nf4 etc. -- Im not sure if the point was strictly so that after Nf4 Ne5 d7 Rd8 can be met with Rc8 (which obviously if the rook was still on a7, it wouldn't be able to play Rc8) or if there was some other move/line that AlphaZero was actually parrying? It just wasn't very clear what exactly the point of Rc7 was from the video since you made it seem like Ng5 wouldn't be possible with the white rook on a7, but clearly it was still possible. Also, given how forcing all of these moves were, I could actually see any number of good grandmasters finding Rc7 pretty easily -- just my two cents.
@gregorhunziker77316 жыл бұрын
Yeah I too want to know:) I think bc of Nxc5
@nickmoore33036 жыл бұрын
Same, please explain :)
@petermanning55016 жыл бұрын
13:44... although he didn't stress the point at this juncture, but emphasized it at 13:57
@jakeoandasan13046 жыл бұрын
I think the Rc7 move prevents the black knight on d7 from ever moving because it's kinda stuck on guarding the c5 pawn, as well as the black rook it's stuck on guarding the black knight, and because of those the white knight can freely capture the black pawn on the king's side.
@Orion-zq8jf6 жыл бұрын
Very human\blitz looking pawn moves there.. just to break open the center.. amazing the depth behind those moves.. great game and win by AZ
@lakinther71836 жыл бұрын
Last!
@julianrodela44246 жыл бұрын
glad to see you feeling better agadmator!!
@joak2446 жыл бұрын
Wow this game was seriously really awesome!! Feels super human, thank you for showing it
@dennisdonnelly44403 жыл бұрын
This was a great game! Both of those moves you highlighted were spectacular!
@andrewweirny6 жыл бұрын
Alpha is such a powerful AI it defeated Casablanca and Carlsen in a poll when it wasn’t even an option.
@SirWilliamification6 жыл бұрын
This new merchandise is so nice! Keep that style!
@L4rs_5 жыл бұрын
1:32 It has Zugzwang A German loves this
@Jodor--6 жыл бұрын
Alpha zero vs alpha zero would be fun to watch as it values positions in % on how it would be doing vs itself
@akmd1143793 жыл бұрын
Incredible! So that lateral rook move was just so the passed e pawn can defend it after all those exchanges.
@prismrevenue6 жыл бұрын
It seems as though Stockfish 8 repeatedly underestimates the power of pawn sacrifices to gain positional advantage. Stockfish 8 always seems to play a balanced game but cannot handle Alpha Zero’s masterful ability to obtain positional dominance. Simply brilliant!
@bruceli90942 жыл бұрын
Stockfish: I calculate to win. Alphazero: Prepare the amada. We shall use the old ways.
@samirm6 жыл бұрын
learning so much from alpha. loving these videos!
@kirtikojha43176 жыл бұрын
After the Tal move, I loved Alpha Zero even more!!!!
@irlporygon-z69296 жыл бұрын
9:26 Yeah black's bishop is hanging but just pushing b3 defends. Stockfish seems to think both that continuation and bishop b3 are equal (equally bad that is, white has like +1.2 or something in both of them) just because black's position is worse here, i don't see any major reason why it has much to do with whether black pushes a3 or tries bishop b3. Wouldn't be surprised if I'm missing something though but stockfish also doesn't seem to find a huge problem with pushing b3 either in the following move.
@nathanjxaxson6 жыл бұрын
AlphaZero seems to have perfected the art of _passivation_. It often chooses to passivate pieces instead of capturing them - meaning, it renders the opponents pieces so passive that they become useless. We see a lot of games where AlphaZero locks in Stockfish's pieces, completely removing their influence on the board.
@McNaireXstream6 жыл бұрын
So I'm never a fan of engines playing Chess as the human element of pressure and fun can never be captured to understand and address the aftermath of "what if...?" ... The more games we play just to wing it and try new moves, never before played or what we think has never before been played adds to the learning potential and beauty of the game of chess. I loved this video from the moment you shared why you decided to post this video - an engine played a move not among the top recommended moves by another engine...Now sure that's expected as things develop, and that still doesn't capture a human element but that does help with reminding players to try something new with this lovely game
@SharkBite556 жыл бұрын
White's 26.e5 followed by 27.f5 was known as the "Sweeper, Sealer" back in the day.
@TheMg492 жыл бұрын
Beautiful game. Thanks! Your question is a very tough one. It's almost certain, as you mention, that these chess programs/engines will improve human play. However, imho humans will never be able to attain the calculational ability to effectively emulate the best chess programs/engines such as AlphaZero and Stockfish. But who knows what human chess will be like 50 years from now. Anyway, your videos are very enjoyable, and I hope you keep doing them.
@jackutley15096 жыл бұрын
12:00 "And it will be a very nice draw."
@vancebocas76266 жыл бұрын
Even though this was a d4 opening I was still fully ready to hear “and in this position b4, the Evans Gambit, was not played.”