Agatha All Along makes way more sense now (Episode 6 Spoilers)

[@thegamingknight2096]

IMO the people of Westview know Agatha's a witch, they just don't care. In their perspective, she's a superpowered person who tried to save them from Wanda but got whammied by her. They spent 3 years getting her groceries and playing along with her "delusions", i'm sure they feel a mixture of gratitude/pity for her.

[@endor8witch]

i was thinking this. they seem to know she's not "all there" but she seems to be in a healthy shape and not working so no money to buy groceries etc. so i suspect the whole town kinda chipped in to look after her and entertain her delusions. but i was hoping they explore that more. her naighbour seemed to sort of know what's up and not really care so much too

[@peterjonesdelacruz]

I have a different take. Remember Wanda turned her back into the nosy neighbor Agnes at the end of WandaVision. The spell remained, though distorted, even after Wanda's apparent death, so they continue to see her as Agnes and basically forgot about her being a witch named Agatha Harkness. That's why everyone in Westview still calls her Agnes in Agatha All Along Episode 1. Even when the spell was lifted with the help of Rio, John Collins/Herb still called her Agnes. Agatha corrects him, but he doesn't seem to recall anything about the witch named Agatha.

[@brynniefresh9746]

didn’t they all see her get her powers taken?

[@brynniefresh9746]

also agatha was just a regular nosy neighbor until a few days before, he said she wasn’t acting like herself so i think they JUST started helping her out

[@aliciacasborne2414]

This very plausible

[@Heimal]

The reveal that the end credits are a tour around Billy's room was great.

[@pashpashe]

Wow i didn't notice this. I'll check it again.

[@slack__]

also, the empty space over the hex/westview was filled with Evan Peters' name, instead of being a blank slot, mid-cast, like the previous episodes. maybe he could be in another episode?

[@WheatDos]

​@@slack__the Bohner is back?

[@luckas221a]

​@@slack__ i think he just appears for a moment

[@CINEMAZE]

Really was the perfect way to adapt the messy, convoluted Billy Kaplan story into a more streamlined way that kept the essence and emotional weight of both characters, and still having an element of mystery even if we all saw it coming

[@EveryThing-z6k]

The thing I don't like is that they sort of De-legitimize the Billy KAPLAN identity by making them two separate souls and killing the Kaplan soul off. I'm really hoping by the end of this they have him accept that the family who has raised and cared for him for the last 3 years (by his count, 16 by theirs) is real family and he claims the Billy Kaplan identity for real.

[@CINEMAZE]

@@EveryThing-z6kI think that’s why they had him live with them for 3 years, that way they still raised him for a time and he can still see them as his parents and his life as Billy Kaplan. But they can also make it clear he is Wanda’s child

[@EveryThing-z6k]

​@CINEMAZE Yeah. So far he's been referred to was William Kaplan or Billy Maximoff. I'm sort of hoping by the end he calls himself Billy Kaplan as a way of accepting his identity as a fusion of both.

[@Lisa_Flowers]

​@@EveryThing-z6k well when Agatha asked who he was (when the sigil was still in effect) he said both 'I'm Willian Kaplan' and 'I'm Billy Maximoff'. So maybe that indicates that he embraces both these identities?

[@Taurusus]

Personally I would have liked a more... _definite_ event? Like if the crash took them through the Event Horizon of The Hex as it shrank, or if we're just accepting that Wanda's powers are Mind Stone based at this point and that's how Billy got over there, a power signature or something would have been nice (maybe a flair causing the crash itself?). As it stands, "Some kid was vaguely nearby at the time, yeah that'll do" doesn't feel entirely earned. That said, it's not super important, I'm enjoying my time with the series, I'm certainly not gonna switch off over it.

[@davescrams]

I think tying Agatha to the Hindenburg and Titanic could be less about her causing disasters and more about her escaping death. This is the same sequence in which Billy discovers that Agatha survived the Witches' Road. And she underscores this with her speech to Billy about not feeling guilty for surviving.

[@TrueRomancer04]

This also helps explain why Rio (most likely Lady Death) is obsessed with Agatha.

[@endor8witch]

i never thought of that. but i suspect that is how she survived the witches road, instead of actually having the abilities too. she just can't die cause of rio

[@davescrams]

@TrueRomancer04 Absolutely. There would be parallels with the comics where Death is obsessed with Deadpool and (to a lesser degree) Ben Reilly.

[@freddyfleal]

also it ties up with what she says to Billy later, "and you survived" (or something like that). I think Agatha is someone that does anything to survive and I SUSPECT in the end she will have to let this survival mode go to help the other witches.

[@Rebelscreed]

That or because her and death had some sort of relationship, she was safe while the humans perished. She just happened to be there with death, kind of like a vacation for the two, but the demise of everyone else

[@OverlordZenith]

Houdini was not only a skeptic, he made it his life's mission to prove that mediums and psychics were scam artists after a medium held a seance for his dead mother and claimed to be possessed by her. The medium called him Harry, which was only his stage name. His given name that his mother used exclusively for him was Erich.

[@aldenpond6467]

I just saw Rachel Bloom’s new show on Netflix, where she takes a good 5 minutes just to talk about this! It’s so weird when the same info comes from 2 totally unrelated sources at the same time!😂

[@jacliffh9221]

I mean it’s kinda hinted in the Eternals credits that sprite served as the assistant of Houdini? Which may or may not affect his beliefs in the MCU

[@redcurrantart]

Fun fact… Houdini also got his name from Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin who he basically idolized and stole many of his elements of his act from… And when the man was very old and sick, Houdini appeared on the man’s doorstep insisting that he be introduced. When the family said no that’s when he threw a holy, arrogant fit. Houdini was a 🍆.

[@shanon4768]

@@jacliffh9221 that's a great point, Irl Houdini did not believe in magic, but when in universe magic IS out there even if its not super well known to everyone he could have been a believer especially if he had an assistant who was literally immortal, though that could have been a secret who knows.

[@brasswirebrush]

The " poke the bear?" scene was hilarious. I don't know if the actors were improvising, but it kind of felt like it, and it felt like Joe Locke at least was almost breaking. Made for a really fun scene.

[@5050clown]

it was great!

[@starberry_lemonade]

Joe Locke and Jac Schaefer confirmed that a lot of the interrogation scene was improv. Joe also said he was almost breaking a the “poke the bear” line, which was also improved.

[@jonbodhi]

@@starberry_lemonade look at his face! He’s trying REALLY hard to hold it together!!!😀

[@Wurmze]

It was fantastic i NEEED bloopers

[@Officialhenryalexander]

I think the people of Westview probably saw Agnes as a good witch since she fought against Wanda. I think they knew Agatha was under Wanda’s spell because she put it in her in broad daylight while there were people around. That’s why they did their best to help her out by bringing groceries, etc. Ralph is really the only one who would see her as a villain.

[@LiAkahi]

I saw people online calling this a filler episode before I watched it and when I was done I had to question if we had seen the same episode?!

[@Heimal]

People don't know what that means anymore.

[@LiAkahi]

@@Heimal ah yes, the episode that provides context to all of the episodes prior to it and fleshes out a character that has been one of the central mysteries of the series is “filler” because it doesn’t EXPLICITLY move the plot forward. Media literacy is dead

[@OG_Agrivar]

@@LiAkahi you could've just said "literacy is dead." It's not just movies that far too many people fail to comprehend... sadly.

[@LiAkahi]

@@OG_Agrivar this is tragically true

[@OceanBoi09]

If any episode has been filler this season, it'd be episode 4. BUT IN NO WAY IS THAT A BAD EPISODE!!! Either that episode or 5 is my favourite right now!

[@dominomasked]

As the mom of a teenager, I got a kick out of Agatha’s gritty prestige cop show being really cringe seen from the outside by a teenager. Very relatable 😄

[@LM11116]

I think it makes sense for Billy to be the black heart - she couldn't write his actual name because he was under a sigil. But Agatha assumed it was Rio, which is why she hid the list.

[@Pit_Wizard]

My guess is that Strange made an effort to tell everyone that Wanda died in an attempt to rehabilitate her image. "She died saving the multiverse" or something.

[@sillyskater2]

@@Pit_Wizard nah that’s not how’d he go about it, he would be like “that bitch was crazy and killed herself. I saved the girl and now will teach her magic” you’re welcome multiverse 😂

[@TheEvilCheesecake]

If Captain America gets a museum wing, I'm sure there's a website that has biographies of the Avengers and memorialises the ones who died.

[@ryank4955]

Yeah him or Wong

[@bergamt]

@@ryank4955Neither one of them really have any motivation to rehabilitate her image

[@ODimiGabriel]

​@@bergamt except the fact that she did the right thing at the end and the fact they know about it? seems a bit more douchy than what Strange actually is to go "Oh, well, let everyone think she died a villain, I don't have time for that" I don't think he would personally go around making her a shrine or something, but tell sword, shield or whatever "just a heads up, she died doing a right thing" is just decency

[@ProdCritic]

“I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude” -Billy Maximoff AKA William Kaplan AKA Teen

[@kidalex77]

How people know Wanda is dead: Wong told Madisynn, who told everybody else...

[@swyxTV]

If people wanted to know why, it’s not where you thiiiiink

[@Matopath9]

🤣🤣🤣🎯

[@jesse1086]

👏👏👏​@@swyxTV

[@MrJerks93]

Brilliant

[@janedoe6704]

I love that you spelled it correctly.

[@ryanadams1549]

3 black hearts, 3 people at 3 different stages of their life -- all representing *1* spot in the coven. The Maiden, the Mother and the Crone -- 3 in one. Hugely significant in 'witch lore,' including on the show. I don't know how huge a deal the show will make of this, but I don't think it's a coincidence.

[@OverlordZenith]

My headcannon is that Wong told Madissyn Wamda died and she tweeted about it

[@magicalgirllaurie]

This is my new headcanon that’s hilarious

[@emoclowngirl]

Nando i’m pretty sure the implications of the crash scene is that William Kaplan died, and Billy’s soul had been leaving the hex and found a place in the newly dead body right outside of the hex

[@Horopter]

If you hear carefully, there's a heartbeat bgm that just stops and restarts.

[@patax144]

And he happened to be named William and have an interest in magic, Billy hit the Jackpot with that body.

[@hallopino]

Yeah, that hit and the injuries and the car accident trope. Original William Kaplan is super dead.

[@Tuaron]

I actually dislike that part. Was kind of hoping that instead of possessing the body, he'd at least become a blend of the two, having some of William Kaplan's memories affecting him (not just trying to learn it to essentially continue being undercover)

[@nguyenquoctoan6354]

I think William Kaplan's soul had merged with Billy's soul, which created a new soul that does not have memories of William Kaplan and Wanda Maximoff, except for the name of the twins. Because of that, the sigil redacted both of their names when he tried to tell Agatha his name in episode 2.

[@sillyskater2]

Billy had to come out to the Kaplans and they’ve seem to have taken the news really well, Billy won the- Resurrect into a body with accepting parents lottery.

[@davescrams]

@sillyskater2 Good point. Makes you wonder about coming out to your "parents" while not telling them that you believe you're an unknown telepathic soul inhabiting their dead son's body. That's a lot for a 3-year-old soul to process.

[@Seriestalkswithus]

@@davescramsI mean just coming out as gay is also a lot easier than telling them their actual son dead and you are inhabiting his body so ..

[@Robin-be1zm]

What makes you think he came out?

[@Seriestalkswithus]

@@Robin-be1zm he said he didn’t want to go back in the closet when Agatha shoved him in closet.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

​@@davescramsfr 😂

[@bluesdjben]

I thought this was by far the best episode. Getting Billy's backstory was really interesting and well done. Loved Evan Peters in the Ralph Bohner scene. The way they showed Billy and his boyfriend's relationship was really good too.

[@bifflechips-t5r]

Maybe Lilia wrote the black heart on the list because she couldn't remember Billy as a part of the coven, and so drew a black heart?

[@j.j.herrick6871]

That is what I came up with.

[@johnmorgans]

I figured she was at those disasters because she was with someone who was “just doing her job”

[@OG_Agrivar]

Yeah, that's what I thought as well.

[@j.j.herrick6871]

Same.

[@nephtys369]

I think one thing that people forget is that from the perspective of the citizens of Westview Agatha is a hero. They know she fought Wanda. They know they were free after that. They know she was cursed.

[@jacobd1984]

I’m surprised they aren’t at least at little suspicious of her though. Not enough to not want to help her, but enough to be wary. They know Agatha waited an unclear amount of time before intervening, for unknown reasons. They know she didn’t help them when Wanda briefly attacked the people in the town square. They know she did something that pissed Wanda off enough to curse her specifically despite releasing everyone else.

[@jonbodhi]

@@jacobd1984she fought Wanda, wouldn’t that be enough to be cursed? If it were me, I’d assume she needed time to investigate and prepare, which still wasn’t enough.

[@Cornberry]

Did you notice how Rio is nowhere to be found in Billy’s POV? And why isn’t she there with them anymore at the Witch’s Road?

[@CravingPain]

She is clearly collecting the souls and bodies so it makes sense, also she is not after the wish in the witch's road she is after Agatha although we don't know what exactly, does she want to claim her soul? Does she want to see her get her powers and then kill her? But all we know Rio was summoned and is just there in the ride with them

[@mamatthews78]

Tommy and Billy aren't identical twins in the MCU, so it's not an issue. (You're totally right that the twins are identical in the comics). Teddy isn't just a Skrull, though. He's half-Skrull/half-Kree, and royalty on both sides.

[@execuwutie_YT]

I meannnn in the comics them looking the same as each other is a significant plot point in children's crusade. Not that I think they NEED to be identical, but yes they look alike in the comics

[@mamatthews78]

@@execuwutie_YT Yeah, Billy also used the fact that they looked identical to convince Tommy. I doubt there will be as much of an issue here, as it seems unlikely that Billy's going to find Tommy in a teen detention center.

[@buddywahlquist2467]

​@mamatthews78 also, in the comics, when they find each other, they don't know about the existence of a twin until they meet, so being identical is important to that revelation. Here, Billy is actively looking for Tommy (and additionally knows Wanda is their mother), so they don't need to look alike

[@jemmellpyron2527]

oh shoot, Teddy is a Kree AND a Skrull?

[@mamatthews78]

@jemmellpyron2527 Yeah, he's the son of the Princess Anele of the Skrull Empire, and Mar-Vel, the original Captain Marvel. All of the original Young Avengers but Iron Lad and Hawkeye (who both choose to emulate Avengers, but aren't exactly related. Cap gives Kate the name Hawkeye, the original was dead at the time, and Iron Lad is distantly related to the Fantastic Four and much, much more closely related to a classic Avengers enemy) are directly related to Avengers in some fashion. Patriot is the grandson of the first (and black) Captain America, Stature the daughter of Ant-Man, Billy and Tommy are Wanda and the Vision's kids, and Teddy is the son of Captain Marvel.

[@carpevinum8645]

Love watching the events of the first episode side by side. Joe and Kathryn did so well.

[@trace9021]

I assumed Lilia put the sigil on Billy because she saw that Wanda was going to claim the Darkhold, by the time she found him she'd already be corrupted by it, which would put Billy in danger.

[@slack__]

i kinda thought the opposite, that she saw what was going to happen and placed the sigil on him, but it ended up being a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy because she intervened... like, if she didn't put the sigil on him and just kept it to herself, maybe things would have happened differently? i guess a bit like reverse time travel - because she acted, it happens, and if she didn't, maybe it wouldn't have? honestly idfk, and i'm totally here for it either way

[@ElizaHamilton1780]

I assumed Lilia put the sigil on Billy because he broke the rules, as Agatha pointed out. She did it to protect herself and William Caplan and Billy. Maybe Lilia would also be breaking rules of some kind for not doing whatever a witch is supposed to do when one of their own breaks rules. Would a witch be obligated to bind the rule breaker to a stake and execute them, the way Agatha’s original coven did to her? Because if that’s what a witch is supposed to do, then I understand Lilia being stricken and in tears as she tells William he’s a good egg, then makes the sigil. With the sigil, she can claim plausible deniability: How was she supposed to know what he is?

[@MaybeAnnatar]

I dunno, if I was in Westview and I knew Wanda effectively brainwashed us, then one day I see another witch fighting her and then it's all over, I'm probably going "wow Agatha must have been the good guy and Wanda punished her for that."

[@alonsogonzalez7539]

I think that by end we won't actually get Tommy outright (maybe a hint or a lead) but what Billy will gain will be his memories of both William and Billy, finally consolidating both parts of himself.

[@tomp8215]

Like... The Tower, reversed???

[@stephendaniels2213]

@@tomp8215 and The Sun

[@GlennHideaki]

"He's the one that's kinda...more, I dunno, 'jocky'--isn't the right way to describe it--I mean, it--it kind of is in the comics, but **breathes in** he's like the, you know, 'taller one.'" I died. I've been getting your videos recommended a lot, and now I'm subscribed.

[@faemaiden8577]

I started cackling. Not sure if he was trying to say "top" or "masc"

[@jonbodhi]

@@faemaiden8577he was trying to AVOID saying it. Billy’s not effeminate in the comics, but it’s pretty obvious who’s the ‘assertive’ one.

[@elephant4053]

​@@jonbodhiyou never know maybe teddy is a power bottom 💪

[@faemaiden8577]

@@jonbodhi assertive or insertive lmfao

[@jonbodhi]

@@elephant4053 He could very well be. I’ve never really speculated, because real-life gay relationships are rarely so cut-and-dry, plus, they’re teenagers, so I prefer to imagine lots of spooning… ….but let’s get real: Teddy’s a SHAPE-SHIFTER!! The kink possibilities are ENDLESS!

[@PrinceValmont]

I really appreciate that you also pronounce M3GAN as "Muh-three-gan". I've always done the same.

[@tory3288]

I believe the black heart was for Billy. Eddie called Billy “my 🖤”. I think Rio’s black heart was a misdirection, bc if she is Death, then I presume she couldn’t truly be part of a coven. But since she is technically the original green witch, it makes sense that the spell pulled her up (plus she was already there for Sharon).

[@lostmonkey]

Plus at that point Billy was still under the sigil so Lilia wouldn't know or be able to say his name

[@gwarfreeq]

He even wears a black heart shaped stud in his left ear

[@sillyskater2]

You’re right Nando, this episode was art and I enjoyed seeing William Kaplan’s Bar Mitzvah, death, and Billy’s revival because now Wiccan is in the MCU baby! They did a good job streamlining his origin from the comics.

[@EatSleepEmpire]

13:11 I think Agatha was under a spell and was basically rendered harmless. And the people of the town got used to her over the three years and just accepted it. They might even have known that she was de-powered by Wanda. She was essentially one of them because she had also been affected by Wanda.

[@angrylittlenobody6379]

All the ways Nando is trying to say Teddy is the top without saying it are priceless and adorable

[@kylecarter1599]

My theory is Billy got the coven together via Agatha to bypass the sigil. His boyfriend texted him "youre my 🖤" making him the final piece of the coven, and the emtrance to The Road appeared when he needed to escape Death.

[@jholmes553]

I think the Westview residents know that Agatha is a witch. It is hinted in Episode 1 - where Agatha is a police officer who is "suspended without pay" for punching a suspect. They know she is a witch but they see Wanda as the villain which puts Agatha in their good graces. Add the fact that Agatha is still under Wanda's spell and they knew what being under Wanda's spell feels like, they have sympathy for her. As for Sharon Davis, maybe she still thinks that Agatha is still under Wanda's spell? Or maybe she just trusts her because of the abovementioned reason. And with her still yearning for connection after her husband's passing, I see why she would agree with joining Agatha's party. Then when the road opened for them, she sort of have no other choice but to follow the road... unfortunately, to her death.

[@lostmonkey]

This was my assumption. The entire town was subject to Wanda's spell, they likely all empathize with Agatha knowing she's still going through the same thing

[@racool911]

And that Agatha was pretty much the reason they got freed lol, even if she didn't really care about them

[@jholmes553]

@@racool911 That is true. Never thought of it that way. But yes. Some of the Westview residents must believe that Agatha helped free them.

[@jonbodhi]

@@racool911superheroes save people; doesn’t mean they want to have you over for dinner afterwards. ‘She saved us from Wanda’ is enough for them.

[@davescrams]

During the events of WandaVision, Ralph Bohner was in witness protection, so he probably fled as soon as he was able to leave, which means that the neighbors wouldn't have had an opportunity to do anything for him after the hex ended.

[@endor8witch]

he wasnt. it's just fan theory. he has his own stand up show and using his real name.

[@davescrams]

@endor8witch I suppose so, but there is a deleted scene in which Ralph removes his ankle monitor and evades the FBI. It doesn't appear in the series, though. Not sure if it was intentionally filmed as a joke, a discarded idea, or an accurate reflection of the intention that was deleted for other reasons.

[@Byronic19134]

Agatha did know it was Billy, so when RIo told her “That boy is not yours.” Agatha reacted that way because she does care about Billy and had just realized she was going to collect Billy because he cheated Death and broke the rules by body jumping.

[@CravingPain]

Both, Rio is both there to collect Billy who broke the rule and Agatha by either waiting for her to get her powers and have a proper death dual, or the seven whatevers that are chasing her down in the road kill her and than claiming her.

[@literaltruth]

With the Wanda thing - the Avengers are public figures and the Avengers are a known organisation who hold press conferences (e.g. the one Tony was holding for Peter in Far From Home). That room where the press conference was being held looked like it was an area specifically built as a press room. That means that they likely have a Public Relations office. It's fairly safe to assume that they announce to the press if a known Avenger dies - though they likely didn't give the details of her death, probably just a "killed in the line of duty" type announcement to dissuade conspiracists from starting to investigate and theorise after they noticed that Wanda hadn't been seen in months.

[@literaltruth]

Also, I'm not sure how recently you've watched Wandavision - but there's nothing really to say that anyone in the town knew anything about witches. From their point of view, they were mind controlled by an Avenger who was known to have mind control powers. They live in a world where everyone knows superheroes are real but nobody knows witches exist - so they would have just blamed all the weird stuff that happened on superhero stuff rather than witchcraft. And what Wanda did was to curse Agatha to "fill the role she'd picked for herself". She used her reality altering powers to literally change Agatha from a Witch into a normal "nosey neighbour" who had always lived there. It's likely that part of that spell was that everyone in Westview now just viewed her as Agnes who had always lived there but was driven crazy because of what Wanda did. They likely just viewed her as one of the victims of the Hex that had a mental break because of what Wanda did. Even if they did remember Agatha from the finale, they could just assume that was one of the plotlines that Wanda had created for poor Agnes - turning her into the villain of the show in the same way she had turned all of them into characters. None of them saw the "Agatha All Along" song, none of them (apart from Ralph who ran away without talking to anyone) knew that Agnes was anything other than a victirm. In the first episode of Agatha All Along, Sharon / Mrs Hart certainly speaks to Agatha like she thinks they were both victims of Wanda. Because, despite the song - remember that Agatha really didn't do anything all that bad in Wandavision. She showed up after Wanda had cast the Hex to investigate, she took control of Ralph - but Wanda had already been controlling him - and she was using him in effect to break Wanda's control of the rest of the town. She wanted Wanda's power - and wanted to take it from her, potentially killing her in the process - but from her point of view that probably wasn't a bad thing since Wanda was doing something really, really evil with her power at the time. If this show told me that Agatha really can't control her ability to absorb other witches power (and so she wasn't actually responsible for Alice's death) and, for example, has been trying to get all the power she can from people like Wanda in order to, say, rescue her son from hell/Mephisto then I'd fully consider her an anti-hero. People have been assuming she's evil since she was a little girl - including her own mother - so she's started to act the part. But we really haven't seen her do anything uniquivocably evil. Like the worst thing she did was kill the dog - but we find out in this episode that it was actually Ralph who killed the dog and for all we know, that wasn't a really dog anyway, but just a creation of Wanda's magic.

[@TacticusPrime]

It's great how this even makes WandaVision better for me.

[@beexcellenttoeachother1763]

I genuinely believe that the town of Westview doesn't really know what Agatha's deal is (I don't even think they know she's a witch. Like, for all they know if they'd seen the witch stuff, Wanda could have been essentially "playing dolls" with her like she had with them) but that they think that Wanda's chaos magic just messed with her brain permanently so they kind of look out for her. If I remember right, "Herb" was still calling her Agnes, right? They really could just think "Oh poor woman. Ralf left her after the Wanda incident. And how it messed with her too... We'll look out for her." I'm probably wrong but I just like the idea of the town coming together to protect this strange lady who people might not even remember from before Wanda still talking like she's a sitcom character.

[@slack__]

"Wanda could have been essentially "playing dolls" with her like she had with them" i'm totally on board with this idea

[@Yanaba79]

Ralph Bhooner was the person Jimmy Woo was watching over in witness protection. I'm pretty sure in that situation the person is supposed to keep a low profile and not draw attention to themselves, so it is quite possible that other than a casual hello he was not forming any ties in the community. So no, his neighbors might not have cared at all that he disappeared after the events. Especially since the town's population shrank immediately afterwards because of people leaving. There are likely a LOT of houses sitting empty, so Agatha just existing in one was likely not really a problem for them.

[@Aliziun]

I was thinking about this after episode 6; Agatha All Along is probably my favorite MCU show so far!

[@TheDevos1]

What is it with people and thinking wanting Tommy at the end of the road is weird. Tommy is also her kid, they BOTH are drawn to each other and then find Wanda after they find each other. It makes perfect sense. Also theyre twin brothers???

[@malmercury]

Right?? So many people are just completely disregarding Tommy’s importance as if Wanda is the only thing Billy would care about

[@Angelareadsalot]

Every pair of twins I’ve ever met are super tight. Ofc Billy would want to find Tommy first!

[@TheDevos1]

@@Angelareadsalot I’m a twin this is why I’m passionate about it LOLLL

[@flavsdepadua8516]

agatha was at great disasters because she was dating rio, who had to be at this places to collect the bodies

[@ewewewewewewewewgross]

17:30 i can totally imagine agatha saying something like “unsinkable huh? let’s test that theory shall we?” and conjuring up a huge fucking iceberg out of nowhere

[@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617]

*patiently waits for the episode 7 vid*

[@mikaylaeager7942]

I hope this is Teddy because this actor is perfect! We has the charm and innocent smile that Teddy should have.

[@fabiomiyashiro2408]

18:02 Please writers, please make agatha “Becky with the good hair”

[@OG_Agrivar]

Who?

[@subtlegong2817]

I loved the part where Billy said both that he was William and Billy to Agatha not just to check the effects of the sigal but also who he was. He went by the name everyone called him first, but then he checked see if he was still Wanda’s son.

[@igiveupfine]

......3 years later and multiverse of madness. oh my gosh. i did not even think of that. it blocked wanda from knowing her kid was alive IN this universe. she would not have walked and caused terror all over again. that sigil. oh my gosh.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

We know like one third of Westview immediately moved out, so maybe people just assumed Ralph moved out

[@rwicks1746]

I think making Agatha sometimes the catalyst to horrific events in our past might be because she was doing this to please death. And perhaps Agatha's been doing this all this time to get Rio to bring back her son. But that's not how it works especially when you're an agent of mephisto.

[@sofiasoderstrand3094]

1. I think the magic Wanda put on Agnes was equivalent to a sigil, so the Westview citizens wouldn't throw her out and wake her. 2. I think the last name on the list came out as a black heart because on the sigil on Billy. They couldn't acknowledge who was their last member because they weren't allowed to understand who Billy was

[@TheMrAman]

5:18 my guy they showed billy in the first episode getting a call from eddie and his contact name is "boyf"

[@garyprime6983]

I like the acting between Billy and Detective Agatha this episode and allows enjoy being introduced to a new dilf, daddy Kaplan😘

[@Miirorman]

Calling it now, Tommy had his soul going into the body of a teenage westview boy, or someone way way further away (because Tommy has super-speed or something) who was out for a jog and got killed in a hit and run accident, similar to how William was killed in a car accident accident.

[@Daxsymbiote]

Billy's boyfriend was named Eddie in the subtitles. Great video, thank you Nando.

[@EveryThing-z6k]

Billy likely isn't Roma in the comics either. The only thing that's been canonized about the Kaplans is that they are Reform Jewish. Billy was not adopted by them he was born into that family. So even though Wanda is Roma Billy is not (until such a time as the comics decide to give the Kaplans a Roma background which has never happened, as yet.)

[@Glennstevenson822]

Teddy doesn’t shapeshift to look human, that’s how he really looks - he’s part Pink-kree. This was a plot point because super Skrull used a beam to nullify his shapeshifting to prove he was really a Skrull, but he didn’t change. It did change his mom, tho. Writers seem to forget this too, at times.

[@MattHorton]

Could be neat if white Vision ended up being the mentor for the Young Avengers instead of having Iron Lad. Especially considering we've had a Vision on that team.

[@malmercury]

01:30 It actually *wasn’t* anything intentional on Wanda’s part. In the 2015 Scarlet Witch series by James Robinson (which is really good I totally recommend it!) Wanda admits to her therapist that even she doesn’t know how her sons were reincarnated. It seems to have just been a happy twist of fate

[@jordanlove4717]

Amandla Stenberg played twins in the Acolyte and she gave a great performance the scene where the twins fought was epic

[@endless_del]

houdini was known as a death-defying escape artist. that's the easter egg there-- billy should have died with the hex, but he made a great escape into a recently dead kid and defied death essentially 2 ways lol. it's not necessarily a reference to his connection to magic and mysticism bc you're right, he was staunchly skeptic and went at mediums numerous times

[@gvarrr]

The show might be called Agatha but it’s Billy’s show and that answers the question why does it exist. Does Agatha need a show, probably not but does Billy Maximoff - this proves yeah

[@P4trickSt4rmie]

The show is still about Agatha 😂

[@daneroberts1996]

Idk I’d still call it Agatha’s show. I compare it to Monica in WandaVision, she’s a major character with some initial mystery about her, who gets fleshed out as the series goes on, doesn’t make the show ABOUT her

[@faemaiden8577]

It's Agatha's show, she's the lead character. This episode Billy is the main character, but Agatha is the maincharacter of the show make sense?

[@gvarrr]

@@daneroberts1996 the difference is we explored a lot more of Wanda and Vision before we learnt more about Monica. Things about Agatha have only really been implied so far and we haven’t actually had that much time with her to develop. Sure she is the lead character but is the show about her? I think it’s as much about Billy

[@all-in9365]

This is agathas show yes, but everything in this show has showed up prior to the road, billy might be making a mind hex for agatha billys running agathas show​@@faemaiden8577

[@gavino299]

Regarding Young Avengers, I think they'll likely put Ironheart in the Ironlad slot. Makes sense with her age and no more Kang. Plus, it's a great way to limit having too many "Iron" characters at the same time in a movie universe.

[@oddsmile1234]

Another person on here pointed out that the sigil was probably put on him to protect him from Wanda, not Agatha. Without the sigil Wanda would have the Darkhold and her son's, meaning without the one thing keeping her destruction in check would be gone and we'd potentially have 2 very powerful reality warping witches corrupted by the Darkhold.

[@Vor567tez]

It will be better if become real in AAA. Otherwise whole MoM movie will make no sense. Why she wasn't able to sense her own kids in the same universe. But that will only explain for Billy. Not for Tommy, if he too got reincarnated like Billy.

[@oddsmile1234]

@@Vor567tez And who's to say he did? Sure the comics that's how it works, but in the show Agatha implied that Billy was able to jump into William's body with magic by saying it was against the rules. Billy is on the road to find Tommy, maybe that just means his soul that Billy could then send forth into an recentally empty vessel.

[@FlynnTheRedhead]

17:59 Press conferences. Remember in the movie you’re literally describing, Doctor Strange died and they built him a statue to preserve his legacy? You can assume they did something similar for the Scarlet Witch, she was an Avenger yk?

[@drewforchic9083]

Gonna be honest, I still think that Agatha's kid Nick Stratch got turned into her pet bunny, which she still has in the first episode. That was a theory back from Wandavision, where her rabbit was named Señor Scratchy, before her son was even a relevant detail. I'm sticking with that theory until I find a more compelling one.

[@fredlazarus1088]

awesome review as always. loving this show; especially Jac’s take on Billy. Him and Eddy have great chemistry; i’d totally be down if he were Hulkling/skrull-kree empire king. i’m also hyped to see what they do with Speed. they dropped the ball on quicksilver in this universe; speed now has license to occupy that role

[@Rebelscreed]

To me the parts of agatha being at the hindenberg and titanic wasn't that she caused them, but more so that she was most likely dating death and just so happened to be there when death was going to take a large amount of people.

[@5050clown]

evan peters was brilliant in this ep. the comedy between Joe and Kathryn during the living room interrogation was incredible.

[@jomichealnelson8355]

Agatha has such a high body count from people attacking her. She has no problem telling people the flaw in her power

[@a-world-view]

Haven't you seen HOT FUZZ? Alice is a Police- Officer. :)

[@OzTheGuy8224]

She's squatting and the neighbors at least know that she’s still under the spell, so they sympathize and beyond that they don't care because Ralph ran away before he could tell them more about her. Only Ralph and the people outside know about Agatha but that’s Wongs jurisdiction and she's harmless as a dead person’s spell is pretty hard to break. Ralph was on house arrest and being investigated by the FBI as shown in deleted scenes so his neighbors probably didn’t know or like him.

[@RediscoveringDavid]

I didn't even know about Alices' magic guns until 30 seconds ago and I'm already FURIOUS that we did not see that

[@ThePonderer]

Loved this episode. Eager to rewatch the show with the added context now.

[@sladestumbo4117]

I think they haven’t decided whether Eddie is Teddy. I think the names rhymes intentionally so that they can go either way with it once they decide what to do with Hulking. PersonaIly, think it would be a mistake to have Wiccan already hooked up because it would rob us of the romance arc.

[@kezzajam]

The original origin was a messy mix of reincarnation and time travel. All they've done is ditch the time travel to simplify it

[@laceisaverb]

Remember in WandaVision that Wanda opened up the hex briefly and told the townspeople of Westview to run, so no one was actually around during her final fight with Agatha. Even if they had seen Agatha and knew she was a witch or at least had superpowers, a) to their minds she was saving them from Wanda, b) Wanda put a hex on Agatha at the end to turn her into Agnes, and I think within that spell was something to allow Agnes/Agatha to remain hidden and secret, because when Wanda puts the spell on her she says something like "You'll be safe here" or "No one will come for you here" which shielded her from Rio and the Salem Seven (until Wanda died or whatever happened to her at the end of MoM).

[@trajer1535]

The theme of the Bar Mitzvah was something about magic - I'm guessing he was just a huge magic fan in general, not just Houdini

[@AntiKaiMatic]

The parents won't react the same as comics because this isn’t a reincarnation their real son actually died and they’ve been raising a puppet

[@lukemalone22]

New Nando episode = a great day ahead

[@amaranthia0320]

21:57 the last name was most likely Rio. Green witch. Completes her coven. But Agatha doesn't want to involve Rio, and then she has to later on

[@LunykStormdragon]

that’s the implication at first watch, but i think Nando is saying that Rio being associated with a black heart is a red herring, and the fourth member of the coven being “🖤” was meant to be Billy, but with the sigil she couldn’t write his name.

[@Timewarpiaman]

My counter to Joe Locke not being Jewish or Romani would be that Bucky isn't Romani and is played by Sebastian Stan and Scott Lang isn't jewish and is played by Paul Rudd so it's clear Marvel's ok with hiring Jewish and Romani actors in non-jewish and romani roles.

[@SD-zz4ov]

sebastian is romanian not roma

[@Timewarpiaman]

@@SD-zz4ov And Bucky isn't so the point still stands that if they cast a romani actor they wouldn't limit them to romani roles but yeah is a little bad they don't have any roma actors given how many roma roles they have in the MCU. Also Sebastian comes up when you search actors with roma heritage so not sure what that's about.

[@legendswarble2845]

​@Timewarpiaman Sebastian Stan isn't Romani. He's Romanian. Those are two different things fam. It's not just Wiccan who wasn't cast with a Roma actor. Wanda, Pietro, their parents, Lilia, and Doctor Doom have all been passed over. As far as Jewish characters, literally only Ben Grimm is played by an actor of the correct ethnicity. For a counter example, imagine there were black actors in the MCU but Black Panther, Rhodey, and Sam were white. It's like that.

[@TheDefaultMan543]

Paul Rudd is jewish

[@elephant4053]

Romanian means from romania. The roma are a race of people.​@@Timewarpiaman

[@DanHosler]

10:24 My knowledge is needed for once 😂 So background on the Houdini posters Billy and Harry have very similar stories. Harry became enveloped by the Occult studies after his mother passed away. He would then make a side career exposing fraudulent mediums, fortune tellers and so called magic men. This is where Harry met Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Sherlock Holmes creator) Mr. Doyles wife was a self proclaimed Medium who could put Harry in contact with his mother. 😅 Upon Harry's death his wife Bess would hold a séance on the anniversary of his death which was Oct. 31st Bess held the séance till the 10th anniversary, from that point on Bess entrusted my great-uncle Walter B Gibson to carry on the practice. Walter from a young age was a magician and around age 20 the two met for the first time (1915)

[@blackshard641]

8:11 PAY ATTENTION TO ME, HUMAN SERVANT

[@Marandahir]

I know Teddy Altman is supposed to he short for Theodore in the comics, but I’d mention it that both Eddy and Teddy are nicknames for related names - Edward, Edwin, etc. I don’t know if it works the other they way around, but that opens a clear door for Eddie = Hulkling, but is also just far enough to be a red herring!

[@redcurrantart]

During Covid a recorded addition dropped of someone reading lines that were pretty clearly Tommy who wanted to try to find Billy. I can’t find that now but it was the first clue they would be back. It fit pretty well with the events of Agatha all along. It seems like he didn’t know where his brother was, or who his brother may now be… but needed to find his brother

[@cisalzlman]

It's said in episode that it was 3 names and a Blackheart. It's was heavily implied that it meant Rio

[@lowkeyobsessedngl]

if Eddie does end up being Hulkling, i hope they keep his Kree-Skrull background. It works too, the Kree & Skrull are still at odds in the MCU and he might be the key to bringing an uneasy peace to to the two races.

[@juliansmoma]

I think the Westview residents were so traumatized by the events of Wandavision that they probably never wanted to think or talk about them again to anyone. When the neighbor saw the Salem 7 in the street, he was like "Im out!". 😆

[@HGPrime]

I think maybe when Wanda turned Agatha back into Agnes it had the effect of everyone else thinking of her as Agnes too and they forgot she was fighting Wanda at the end. Because regardless of how the town thought of her, someone would have shown up for her, like whatever agency took over while SWORD was dealing with their Director being arrested, etc.

[@jay.al9344]

Isn't Ralph supposed to be the guy in witness protection? In a Wanda Vision deleted scene he had an ankle monitor!

[@joshuawinchester9599]

Agatha was on the grassy knoll

[@mercurywoodrose]

Houdini a.k.a. Eric Weiss was skeptical of mediums because he wanted to talk to his dead mother, but he knew the tricks these people could do. He wanted it to be real but every single medium was a phony so it’s OK if Billy wants to believe that would fit with Houdini.

[@juansebastianconto9968]

Honestly I don't know why people in Westview would know that Agatha is a witch, no one really saw her directly doing witchy stuff like Ralph did. So in my mind people just thing she's a weird neighbor and put up with her

[@caitlinforster8189]

what about the whole agatha and wanda flying fight scene? that’s when wanda stole her power, so that’s why i think westview isn’t very scared of her

[@AntiKaiMatic]

They literally have a huge fight in the middle of the town with everybody watching in the final episode of wandavision.

[@endor8witch]

that makes no sense. agatha in reality didnt work, no source of income. she has no grasp of reality so it's hard for her to function on a dialy basis....either it's lazy writing and plot hole, or the town knew and takes care of her and probably saw her as a hero trying to break wanda's hex but was the collateral damage. how they see her may not be the same as what happened but they must've seen her as somewhat of a hero

[@juansebastianconto9968]

@@AntiKaiMatic yes but I don't think people can actually recognize that's Agnes/ Agatha cause they are flying and stuff but idk maybe they don't care cause now she's powerless

[@radiofriendlybox]

best episode of the season. makes rewatching the first ep more more too.

[@soltandvinegar]

I have to say, everyone who complained about them calling him Billy Maximoff in the trailer is probably feeling very silly now

[@bergamt]

On one hand I really liked this episode but on the other it does the annoying mystery box thing where we finally get the backstory for the mysterious character holding all the cards and it turns out they were way more clueless than we thought.

[@EvieOConnorxoxo]

Also if Billy was able to take a new body due to his powers, perhaps he is able to just do this repeatedly. This combined with the fact that witches already have a longer lifespan could make Billy borderline immortal