Goes to show mangonel balance was actually nicely done
Ай бұрын
the 4 trebuchets was insane a game-ending blunder if I've ever seen one
@sandycheeksyaboi9906Ай бұрын
Shoulda gone for mangos
@Ryan-vn7deАй бұрын
I think he was cooked either way?
Ай бұрын
@@Ryan-vn7de If he hadn't over-extended so much and didn't over-invest in trebs he had a good chance These two mistakes compounded into a defeat
@Machoman50taАй бұрын
This was super even match up perfect 🤩
@arkloppiolaАй бұрын
always a delight to see Bee
@sionbarzad5371Ай бұрын
25:30 peak aussi drongo hahaha
@TheAppo1988Ай бұрын
Before i watch this, is he sick in this one too? XD
@jeffbrowngraphicsАй бұрын
Is he ever healthy?
@pcs322Ай бұрын
thanks for letting me have twisted fate drongo
@ChatPro88Ай бұрын
The firing at the back targets doesnt make sense - just gotta have it thrash people regardless of it being the front or back target
@mrsupa444Ай бұрын
Everyone is saying mango nerf, siege nerf bla bla bla. but they all forget, They have taken out every single ranged siege counter. Only way to beat siege is to break through the enemy's front line and hit em with your cavalry or melee infantry. Thats a bigger buff to mangos than any nerf they did to em. here's the real question; how does one defeat GBB or sushi's legacy splashbards now? you basically must win the battle first, then kill the siege, but you cant win the battles with such a siege advantage. Basically ottoman gets to GBB with a decent eco and GG unless its sushi's legacy, whos splashbards hard counter GBB.
@TypeErrorDubsАй бұрын
Ranged units can kill most siege now, with the mango having the least ranged defense. You’ll see when this patch goes live that a longbow mass can basically 2-shot a mangonel. It will be a dance of micro vs micro, which is awesome for the game.
@TypeErrorDubsАй бұрын
In fact, if you watched the video this exact thing happened at the end of this game. Myriad snipes all the mangos with his archers.
@ashtonmayfield9217Ай бұрын
You shred the front line with spingalds and then shit on their back line/mangonels. I think springalds are actually going to be better than mangos now.
@mrsupa444Ай бұрын
@@ashtonmayfield9217 yes, but i never said they were OP, just buffed, what i called OP was ottoman GBB and zushi splashbombards. With proper life formation battles, springs are much less effective than splashbards and GBB, as well as archers and other ranged units still do terrible against them. interested to see how people beat that, though to be fair 99% of games dont go to late imp where large enough numbers of them come out so i guess who cares?
@dannyflynn1912Ай бұрын
They have less health and cavalry got buffed too. The battles will be better with more microing rather than just building siege mass.
@musashigundohАй бұрын
Why is it called a man-gonel? You shoot it and man is gone
@FrostyBud777Ай бұрын
bro i been using mangonles in my main build since beta. I hope this new PUP update goes to main branch soon.
@kameli_1880Ай бұрын
casted games so good
@kadiroalditore3754Ай бұрын
when is new update coming ?
@mohamadnadar9745Ай бұрын
In Arabic we call them MAN - JA - NEEQ !
@teakodoАй бұрын
4 trebs ? whyy
@Mody9513Ай бұрын
plural of manjaniq is majaniq drongo
@dominikstasiak6233Ай бұрын
Maybe they changed only mangonels and mandiqs (not sure how it should be write) are still the same 😂
@hojohn._3822Ай бұрын
dislike this patch. that mass archers with little micro wins the 5 mangos and cav. Aoe4 was known as decision making master pieces. But this patch online it becomes the shot and dodge game. every one just mass archers and do the dodge and shot dance. who get hit will lose. no civ different at all, no decision making at all. Since archer is too powerful now with heavy infantry are nerfed, and mango cant shot probally now.
@GeneralTurtle82Ай бұрын
ISNT 3DBEE A CHEATER?
@chrisnewtownnswАй бұрын
no. It's a grey area. He exploited a bug. Kinda like using mangoes this season.