Age of Empires 4 - The Perfect French Base Layout

[@TheSergentChaotix]

22:10 la pièce de résistance is indeed french

[@TakedownO44]

"GiveYouAnxiety" is the perfect name for a pro player of this game hahaha

[@DarthLeon2]

The influence discount for the French is still only 20%, so the tooltip is wrong, although it's correct on the Red Palace landmark, oddly enough. The tech that increases the discount also only increases it by 5% as opposed to 10%. It also straight up doesn't work at all if you research it at the Royal Institute landmark.

[@davidpereira5969]

a solid amount of tooltips are broken then, like HRE double handed weapons for their maa also gives +15 hp

[@hybralisk]

Wow. So many bugs and false tooltips. :(

[@priceless3020]

@@davidpereira5969 Does the mace also give HP?

[@turnspender7651]

Wow thanks, I like this game but I'd be lying if I say I'm not disappointed at all...

[@turnspender7651]

@@priceless3020 No, Heavy Mace doesn't. But their +6 vs Heavy effect is reduced to +3 by Two Handed Weapons tech.

[@stephenmccarthy4257]

feels like most matches desperately need walls earlier

[@oosgarragsoo3675]

The Fresh are really overpowered !

[@Silverlance988]

"That's a lot of walking time. That's a lot of...everything time." Love this.

[@adn17]

Thanks for the cast Aussie. Really good explanation! Love it.

[@jonathankelly4222]

G’day to you too Aussie_Drongo! And cheers to the algorithm!

[@QronoZ713]

Wow, that res spawn is insane for yhe french . Also vrry protected food in the back

[@AndiSamiKnoll]

Darn! I got to know of your name by wachting competitive aoe2 tournaments. But I never imagined how entertaining you are moderating games. Great content!

[@dimitrisoikonomou3568]

Even though i concider GuA a very good player and the French, one if not the best civ in the game... I found unfair the amount of resources he spawned with compared to his enemy... Its too early to talk about civ balance, but the unfairness of resource spawn isn't debatable imo... You can be the best player but you loose because the map was rigged against you... (And 12000 extra gold isn't a small advantage)...

[@davidpereira5969]

yeah 4x as much gold is no joke, GUA map was so much better its unfair, hopefuly they adress this in next patch

[@jayyrod1]

I dont think its a problem. It adds a womderful dynamic where sometimes you gotta take map control for those resources. Just like any empire would have done ages before us!!!

[@Kaiimei]

@@jayyrod1 Yeah, except then it's not that you are a bad player, it's that the enemy player has less travel time, more available resources, and can tech up/build and gain map control before you, because they can outproduce you. RNG in an RTS is not a good thing for high-level gameplay. Low-level gameplay sure, it's probably not going to make a world of difference, but when the difference of a few seconds of travel time for a worker can mean the difference between producing a unit or finishing a structure early enough or not, if your opponent outright has way better resource spawns, that's really not good.

[@jayyrod1]

@@Kaiimei yeah this becomes clear when im playing someone at or above my skill level. If tjey get a heavy resource advantage they beat me 4/5 times. Id like to see a little balancing in this regard but not much. Starting resources within a radius to starting towncenter would be a good place to start. That way everyone has a relatively equal chamce to fight for those resources spawming a little further away

[@kaleidoscope3234]

@@jayyrod1 you assuming the other player also gonna sit around and let you take map control instead of advancing the advantage they already have.

[@viktorvlad4388]

Keep up the great work bro

[@user0001]

You know what.. A little bit of Drongo and a dash of Castle lager goes a long way!

[@mairuzo]

"Copse": a small forest or outcropping of trees amid a field.

[@Danidurga]

yeah, the maps need a big fix for the balance of resources

[@c0mmanderKeen]

Mate these casts are so good. Thanks!

[@steretsjaaj2368]

Today I was deciding to either buy AoE 4 or a gram of heroin. I'm happy I did the right choice

[@savagerancor]

You can always get AoE later when it fits into your budget better.

[@MrAnonymous00100]

Wasn't Abbasid known for anti-cavalry from camel? Why not build even a single one?

[@parkriuny9551]

Camels are fairly expensive to make. Plus, the constant pressure from GUA and unfair layout of resources on this map is making it harder for Kasva to transit into Camel focused army. But I agree. If he had made at least camel archers instead of regular archers things could have been different.

[@vorvv]

I was just wondering if you could tag casted games either with the player names or just like [casted game] so its easy to differentiate from like guides or something Thank uou, enjoying gje content

[@jamieallan2859]

On the thumbnail it'll have a mic in the top right if it's a casted game, there is a mouse if the game is being played

[@IrishPlante]

Thank you so much Aussie for doing these kind of videos

[@charlin86]

The French are so broken! Not taking away from GuA, but wow do we need that Civ balanced!

[@iceman10129]

I would rather see some of the other B/C tier civs getting buffed up rather than them focusing on nerfing the 3 civs that are clearly ahead of the pack. We also need 4 new civs by the end of 2022.

[@hexor0846]

Whoa that hill map would be an insane dead valley strat

[@Joe-ij6of]

couldn't french cav explore dark map areas while healing? Sounds like you could double dip: heal + extra map

[@ksspang]

I know this isn't a Viper game but I honestly prefer to watch me some Drongo commentary videos instead of the players' actual casts/streams/videos. I feel like you're just much more engaging and enjoyable (esp vs the viper, in my opinion, based on recent stuff)

[@bogdanflorescu2355]

great work Drongo

[@zibitee]

That French keep cost reduction buff is better than the Chinese's tier 4 landmark Spirit Way (30%, but only for dynasty-locked units. Not all units), but shows up an entire age earlier. Lol.

[@kai-xuanyao4666]

Spirit Way is aweful, except when it's buffing up a bunch of grenadier production; but you can't even make grenadiers without putting down the Great Wall Gate too. And you can't get a good spot to put down the Gate without some decent map control; you can't get map control as Chinese because your army is not strong without grenadiers.

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

@@kai-xuanyao4666 Just throw the gate down in some random spot, don't actually use it as intended. I think you can still build grenadiers without it though, archery ranges need to be in influence of the spirit way.

[@kai-xuanyao4666]

@@myopiniondoesntmatter7068 No you have to have unlocked Ming to build grenadiers. I think it would be good if spirit way just gives you access to all the unique units straight away.

[@thrax9054]

The wood spawns on king of the hill can create rough games

[@kazual9206]

The french would not have been so opressive if he did build some outpost/wall. Yet, that last push in the end , i swear i could hear the french sweating.

[@Kameeho]

you know what givesmeanxiety? The rock formation in the center of the map

[@mugizoro47]

What don't the french have? It's like they out every civ bonus they can think of on to one civ and then didn't test it for balance. The map generation too. Like did they not play games and check replays for fair map generation? Hopefully I'm wrong and they've known about the issue for months and it's taking them awhile to fix it because it's difficult or they are understaffed.

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

This match is incredibly titling. Its exactly what happens in 99% of games vs French. Yes the knights "can" be countered. But you pretty much have to catch them asleep at the wheel or be a far better overall player to survive the stupidity that is feudal royal knights. The amount of idle time they force alone is pretty crazy, but then the bastards are sitting at home pumping out vills 15% faster without having to do a damn thing. Meanwhile every other civ has to make a pretty big decision to get any form of vill/eco boost. Mongols have to risk/defend trade without a wall, Chinese have to build 2 landmarks, English have to hit castle age to essentially get a free TC etc. Genesis is going to be a frog show, thankfully they've put that civ win rule in. But the bo1's are going to be endless French mirrors.

[@nanoboso3656]

French are OP in every single Age of Empire game, and I'm starting to believe that it's on purpose I mean they did great historically on these periods, but do they really have to always be broken as hell?

[@benslade9826]

Question is, why have they just given absolutely everything to the French. It’s not like they’ve just got one or two strong perks. It’s like every possible Avenue they’re the best

[@SoulTransient]

Yea. The econ bonuses are nice for the "hostorical tenacity aspect" but they can early harass and econ boom when resources are gone. Oui oui

[@Taylor-li7hp]

Look, someone had to make the French feel good about their military at some point, OK? It’s hard enough to endure centuries of losses, just let them have this game at least

[@davidpereira5969]

that or rus, rus also has some prety busted things

[@Muenni]

@@Taylor-li7hp Which centuries are those supposed to be?

[@AndrewMcFadzean]

@@Taylor-li7hp Ah, you mean the nation with statistically more victories than any other nation?

[@Astfresser]

I think kasva made two mistakes: - not building outposts to save his vills. This would habe made knight raids virtually ineffective as you can spot them earlier as well - not building camel units. Camel units are quite good, if i get some into my army i most often win against the french as they buf the rest of the army quite significantly

[@user-dd2gr5kt7y]

France is so broken I almost do not want to play the game anymore, I have not even been losing to them a lot or anything it is just so apparent that the civ is completely bonkers.

[@marconator9606]

What did they have 1 year ago? I started playing a few weeks ago and everyone thinks they're so weak, did they get nerfed?

[@FeyTheBin]

15:23 Ah yes, we should coin that term: The French Diamond.

[@tonnyncellist5910]

I like the commentary.

[@92Adzy]

Royal knight micro OP

[@Sadeyr]

This might be a dumb question but do they make it obvious in game what the influence area of a building is? I know there’s the yellow squares around buildings that connect them together- but I assumed that if you did that, your influence bonuses would spread to the entire area connected in the yellow. Is that not true?

[@pedroprass106]

that is true, each bulding you make also has their own small influence area meant to connect other buildings to the influence area, but they also need to be built inside the influence to exert their own influence

[@Pupum3]

the bonus 10% discount technology its bugged, doesnt work, at least if you research it in age 3 from the landmark

[@franciscomelendeze]

It doesn't work however if you get in from a castle (not from landmark) it will reduce 5% not 10% (base discount is 20%). Goes from 100 gold to 80 gold to 75 gold.

[@hybralisk]

I think the cav tech for all other civs is only +20% hp. French is 35%. I wonder how many of the techs are broken. Apparently the enlistment 10% tech is only 5%. I also saw in a comment here that it doesn't work if researched from the royal institute. I'll double check to confirm this!

[@valtech8967]

i always called it the french box or square but i guess diamond can work too

[@NickMart1985]

So the French are just OP AF...

[@sparta6776]

Объективно Француз делал ошибки. Француз спокойно развивался и не напрягался + карта сгенерировалась хорошо. Аббасид в поте лица нанимает пики + луки + строит всё что только можно, застраивает стены, еле еле поспевает за Франком в развитии и почти идеально играет по билду. Итог - Француз даже построил замок, а Аббасид проиграл... Дибаланс Франков напрягает(

[@Ruudjjuhh]

Wait, you can turn the camera?? How?!

[@NCG92]

I think the French knights are OP

[@Dynelegacy]

when used by a pro, yes.

[@justinlan7940]

When used by me? Nope. 😭

[@NCG92]

@@justinlan7940 😂 na is easy just spam them and have a few monks to help heal them faster

[@NCG92]

@@Dynelegacy you don't need to be a pro ive had around 50 matches and only lost about 3-5 of them and that's mainly by being out numbered because my allies don't seem to help

[@justinlan7940]

@@NCG92 na man I just prefer infantry I don’t take advantage of mobility or raiding tactics properly lol

[@jerrybuck9236]

This video made me want to main the French....which goes against everything I believe in..

[@JackJackKcajify]

that last battle could have been won but the kasva didnt micro as good as he could have. if spears jumped on archers instead of chasing knights he would have wiped him, anxiety is in a super tough spot against spearman because he has to either move his archers or defend with knights, if spearmen just attacked archers.... then whenever the knights attack the spearmen, the spears just turn around, constantly pushing the knights off and the archers forced to run. i think kasva could have won it if he put more pressure on archers

[@Ri-on4qr]

yeaah, really not much sense to build archers against french, just build more spears, knights wont have anything to attack

[@chrisnewtownnsw]

How do you charge with knights?

[@kamilosam]

Just click on the enemy

[@alinmeleandra3175]

Yeah, resource generation is a big issue... the random generation of number and position and value for resources should not be a "thing" in any competitive RTS...

[@krushnaallam9690]

I wish of no no no I dream of watching red palace with 15 people inside destroying sothing

[@richardblabla]

French op.

[@haris17510]

His name gives me anxiety

[@clapz1710]

Them Aoe 2 players can't micro like us Aoe 3 players :p

[@bellidrael7457]

Uhm... you realize I hope, that by your own logic, ALL economic bonuses are military bonuses. Yes the upgrade you talked about supports more military by giving you more villagers... but this is a war game, everything does that xD An Economic bonus is itself, a military bonus in this game. There is no sense arguing the difference of whether something is an 'economic' bonus or a 'military' bonus. Because they are the same thing.

[@ZedsDeadXO]

It's not really the same thing, direct military bonuses to your units will dictate your playstyle in a different way than an economic bonus. Yes, the overarching idea is to supplement your military might either way but this is on a macro-scale. The caster is referring to finer details of the game.

[@bellidrael7457]

@@ZedsDeadXO Right, but he pooled 'more villagers' as a military bonus, meaning in his mind it's the SAME as those bonuses that dictate your playstyle. That's the point I was trying to make, is that something that is on such a larger scale as 'more villagers' which is basically the very start of everything you do in the game, if THAT is a military bonus, then so is everything else.

[@ZedsDeadXO]

@@bellidrael7457 No idea why he qualifies villagers as a military bonus then, there must be a good reason to it. My first instinct as someone who doesn't play this game is to categorize villagers as a production and logistics unit.

[@sambryant11]

@@bellidrael7457 that wasn't his point though. Cheaper villagers only equals more villagers if you consider not producing villagers a viable option. In the early game, which is when you would take that bonus, you will be relying on your capital TC alone. With our without the bonus, you're going to be constantly producing vils, this just frees up food for military production

[@aalbasse]

apparently dev's are mostly french

[@joema7284]

French are OP

[@MrOzzy281]

05:49 - this game is not ready for release, what a joke that kill from half a mile away, but they know suckers will buy it.

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

That happens in all AoE games. If the unit starts its attack animation the attack connects, regardless of how far they move during it. Unless you change it so the damage is done right as the animation starts it will never be able to change.

[@MrOzzy281]

@@myopiniondoesntmatter7068 ha, I think I know what happens in AOE games, this is 2021 and it is time this was fixed, this issue if far less pronounced in aoe2 too

[@HeloisGevit]

I like the sometimes imbalanced maps, keeps things spicy. I don't want to see perfect symmetry like in SC, it's boring and gamey.

[@caseylee8439]

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[@DAVYYOS]

Your videos are great but just an opinion, maybe tone down the bait like thumbnails? The title is fine but that giant red arrow is kinda obnoxious. Just a suggestion, maybe thats how you attract more viewers. In that case you can just ignore this comment.

[@redfondant4726]

Having a click bait title significantly improves how well a video does on KZbin.

[@DAVYYOS]

@@redfondant4726 suprisingly Im fine with the clickbait title, it is the red arrow that is bothering me. Had a friend point that out to me years ago and since then I always feel abit reluctant to click on videos with giant red arrows.

[@SoulTransient]

@@DAVYYOS couldve pucked a better effect for sure

[@Makofueled]

@@DAVYYOS ⬆️

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

@@redfondant4726 It also pisses off the people who already watch it though.

[@alexmarchand1183]

Oh no, the map generation is pretty messed up, given the *almost* swastika in the middle...

[@NickMart1985]

Ohh, that's your concern. Not the resource distribution. Good lord you people are special.

[@karl337]

fifth like

[@conorkelly947]

I like to watch your vids on mute, love your output rate but can't stand your commentary

[@delta720728]

吵死