Age of Sigmar: The BEST and WORST Armies for Beginners (2023)

[@6dragondaddy913]

Dawi enthusiasts after watching this: "That's going in the book!"

[@danielowen9284]

As someone who is brand new to Warhammer, Warcry and TTG’s in general, I’m very happy to hear the two armies I purchased (Maggotkin of Nurgle and Slaves to Darkness) are great for beginners. The more I read, the more synergies I find out about the two. Very excited to start painting and playing next week! Thanks for this video!

[@ericdeskiewicz1427]

I thought this video was really cool. What might be a good little series would be like a "Where to Start" with each faction, like a brief overview of their ideal play style and some examples of what would be some good purchases to make to start a 1K army with that faction (also a good place to have some product links to the store site in the description/pinned comments). Another one that would be good would be a similar style video with suggested paint/ hobby supplies. I see lots of posts online about people interested in the hobby with absolutely no idea where to start, so that could be a good niche to explore, at least at first.

[@warpfireminis]

I was thinking something along the same lines! We'll get on it!

[@rslabute4099]

About to look to see if you’ve done this already but if not, absolutely seconded. I really want to get into it but I just don’t know like …what to BUY for each army I’m interested in. Maybe like a 500-1000pt guide for starting out for each faction.

[@Rukdug]

That first point is absolutely the most important. It's why I eneded up going with Deepkin as my first army, because I just love my big turtle. Do I win a whole lot of games? Not really, I'm honestly not the best player when it comes to remembering about objectives. But it doesn't really matter as long as my big turtle gets to be on the table and chomp down on a few enemies as a treat.

[@SSquirrel1976]

If you like randomness and painting lots of rats, Skaven are great. Of course these days you can paint a LOT less than back in WHFB and have a great army w/Stormfiends and such.

[@zwenkwiel816]

Yeah I split the introductory set with a friend. I have 20 models to paint, he has 5 😂 Also love the randomness and variation in characters. Have 25 clanrats and they're all unique. Meanwhile the stormcast are nearly identical and all have a hammer and shield.

[@BlareWolfgang]

I’ve been thinking about getting into AOS and this video helped more than all the more, “meme themed” vids out there combined lol. Thanks!

[@dfw_sleepypillz1007]

Great video - as a newer player who is only 1 box away from 2k points of Orruks, it's good to see I made good choices lol. Rock on!

[@_Fabien_B]

I wasn't sure what to expect from a FLGS video but man I'm impressed! The quality is really good and you can tell there is AoS expertise, I wouldn't recommend anything different. I'm glad I'm ordering through your shop already (I discovered you thanks to Season of War)

[@warpfireminis]

Love Season of War! They're the best battle reports in the game for sure. Thanks and hope you keep killing it with Sylvaneth! (They're my second favorite army)

[@ILikeDeathGuardWH40k]

I love this list, especially as me and two friends began playing a little while ago and I took Slaves to Darkness, one friend took Stormcast and the other friend took Lumineth and the Lumineth friend takes an entire hour each turn which me and the Stormcast friend HATE with a fiery passion

[@JMedic88-]

Super awesome advice. This should help a ton of people getting into their first sigmar army.

[@BuffShamansplz]

Love OBR but 100% agree, don't recommend new players pick them up until the new book because it's just a way different experience from AoS 3 and misses out on all the new fun stuff.

[@warpfireminis]

The new rules team has been knocking it out of the park on battletomes lately, so I've really got my hopes high for Bonereapers.

[@JanBongoO]

Basicly play what you like. Just have fun and make new friends. I am new to Warhammer and last week visited first board games room at my local store. They were very friendly and took time and effort to explain basic of basics. Can wait for another one.

[@wolfarmageddon]

Great pics, love these kinds of vids, keep them coming!

[@matthewrumpke1125]

Great advice, great video! Thanks.

[@jeffnagle2131]

Great video with some nice models! Do you plan to do any videos on list building? Both what's required and also what are some good things to always have in general.

[@warpfireminis]

Yeah that's the plan! Gotta figure out if I should just go into general list building, or just go do a deep dive on each faction since lists can be pretty specific to the army. Any preference?

[@GrngoMandngogaming]

Both a a list build for new players and then comp?

[@schmlondaysxd9504]

​@@warpfireminis faction deep dives are always a good time

[@SirVampyr]

As someone just getting into Warhammer and decided Lumineth looks the best to me - thanks for saying at the end that "go with whatever you think looks cool". Will start to build and paint some models and get around the rules at some point :D

[@GFNGaming]

Great video!

[@leebosley5984]

This was very helpful. I am considering trying AoS after a long absence.

[@warpfireminis]

The game's in the best place it's ever been, get in there!

[@c.9900]

Same. In fact the thought of starting from the very bottom again is what is putting me off.

[@MLiskindagay]

This is really helpful, thanks!

[@jvint33]

Great video. Just started looking for a hobby to start and my friend recommended Warhammer AoS. I'm really looking on where to start and this video was a big help!

[@mathieu9789]

Awesome advice Mate! Thank you from Australia

[@stephaniesilvan3526]

Cool! I just started with AoS and what did I choose, of course? TZEENTCH! :D

[@josephskiles]

I knew when I saw my first night goblin model in the 90's that if I ever started collecting they would be my main army. I've probably got about over 3k points in my collection now and still love them. I just need to get them on the table to play though.

[@warpfireminis]

Now's the time! The new Gitz book is great!

[@josephskiles]

@@warpfireminis yeah, I have the last edition, is it really worth another $60 when it only has like 2 new units in it? If they woulda brought back the doom diver I would have had no qualms about it, but it kinda feels like Gdubs is playing us for suckers for nolonger than these rules are good for anymore.

[@warpfireminis]

@@josephskilesOh man, for Gitz your whole world just changed. You went from one of the worst armies in the game to one of the best; only a couple of new units, but almost everything in your book got significantly better. This one should be good for 3 years-ish in theory!

[@josephskiles]

@@warpfireminis well I was on the fence but you definitely got me interested. I do know the whole bad moon got revamped. Thanks for the advice!

[@vvirga5176]

Really great video!!! Must watch if you are new and thinking of getting into Age of Sigmar. Especially the part about playing what excites you and you love looking at! #BeastOfChaos

[@RidgeHanna]

Great video, Jordan! I fully agree with your recommendations. Loving these new videos, keep up the great work!

[@DwightOfTheDead]

Good stuff!

[@foreverfornever1124]

ah ok I see what you were going for here. I thought before the video this was going be a general beginner army vid as to what would be considered beginner friendly as far as building, painting, collecting, and playing. So this is more specifically in regards to playing. Very informative nonetheless

[@Phoenixillusion18]

My advice is go with whatever looks cool for you and you enjoy the playstyle/ If you like Lumineth go with them but keep in mind that they have a bit more rules than other armies ... so that learning curve may be a bit steeper.

[@warpfireminis]

Absolutely!

[@piotrjeske4599]

Well l did that and ended up with a ton of wasted money on a bad stormcast eternal infantry army.

[@Phoenixillusion18]

@@piotrjeske4599 in this game armies change constantly, with a new GHB every 6 months don't worry about it. maybe those infantry will be a must have next GHB. Thats why i say to collect whatever you enjoy the look and playstyle.

[@Killcupidsaaki17]

We just recently were gifted with a half of stormcast eternals and I was worried they may be too advanced for a total beginner whos never played before (and admittedly a bad strategist which is why Im trying to play and learn) I was worried Id be in over my head. Im super happy to hear its a recvommended class that sounds right up my alley! My boyfriend was interested in the maggotkin so Im glad they made the suggested starter list too! Thank you!

[@durthdiabeto]

I just picked up a Vanguard box for the Kharadron Overlords, as well as an extra frigate to hit the point cap, as my starting army. Dug around online to make my decision on which army to pick up based off this and some experience with a few games I’ve played with friends (super casual, we haven’t dug into the grand strategies or anything). Was wondering if you had any tips for someone new to the hobby for when I start playing them on the tabletop?

[@jackbentley2201]

You cant really go wrong with the current KO book, i would say in every list take at least 1 Admiral and 1 Navigator, the navigators read the winds ability is incredible.

[@hondo1650]

This would make a great series. Each army fleshed out

[@Snesokk]

Where would you put Skaven? I love the little A-holes but they still have metal model and horde fatigue can set in pretty hard when you're painting 60+ Clanrats.

[@warpfireminis]

Skaven are okay for a beginner; not the best, but not the worst. They're my favorite army by a mile, but they're also pretty frail and swingy; you have to put them in the right place at the right time and pick your fights carefully (as well as not blow yourself up). Running 40 Clanrats is the popular move in most lists and metal models don't bother me at all, I actually like a lot of the old sculpts, they've got character! Fingers crossed they're next on the range refresh list though, seeing GW kill it on all these new Seraphon sculpts gave me high hopes for the future!

[@alexcastrejoncm]

I agree with everything you said except one thing, the big army I dont recommend for a beginner is Cities of Sigmar, its expensive, its going to have a big overhaul soon, and eventhough I love them, they are hard as hell to play right

[@warpfireminis]

I actually totally agree with you! I put a list with all the factions in the description of the video to cover the ones I didn't mention and have Cities slated in the bad section. With Dawnbringer on the way LOTS stands to change and we may even end up losing models from the line which is the worst.

[@toon4788]

@@warpfireminis autch, i just bought some free cities dwarfs, they and the freeguild are my favorites, but freeguild models look very old i think. When would the new book come out?

[@warpfireminis]

@@toon4788 We don't know for sure yet, but my best guess would be towards the end of this year. Dwarves should be safe though! The rumors are saying the Wood Elf and Shadow Warriors will be the ones getting removed, but we don't even know that that's true. Throw a Gotrek in there for now and have some fun!

[@azmiraclegirl441]

Thank you!

[@martinwinther6013]

Probs best "beginners dos and donts" ever short, concise.. as it should be for entry-lvls..

[@hobbithubby5076]

Simple answer: Flesh Eater Courts or Ork Warclans. Easy to paint and simple to play.

[@warpfireminis]

Can't argue with the facts!

[@roguedm6523]

I'm not a beginner but I recently have been having a bit of a new experience in AoS. I started with Legions of Nagash, Daughters of Khaine and then Slaves to darkness but once I started painting skaven I found I love them and I can't stop painting more. There is something to be said about an army you love. I can look past any flaws and I want to make things work and try to optimize because I just love my little rats. My normal philosophy with gaming is the more simple and straight forward my army is, the better I can focus on the objective and board. Skaven are not like that at all but my love for them is so great I might end up changing the way I play to something much more cunning with teleporting, spells and risky maneuvers.

[@warpfireminis]

Skaven have a very cool tool kit, but definitely aren't straightforward haha. Playing what you love is always the best!

[@efoxneo]

I want to get a Nurgle Army as my gateway to AOS from 40K. Sylvaneth looks so good, but harder to play. I hope to eventually play both.

[@AaronVgoat]

Dude straight forgot about nighthaunt. Favorite army to play. Last week I double turned a kragnos with harridans. 40 harridans with 5 attacks hitting on 3+ wounding on 3+ with no ward saves.

[@warpfireminis]

Check the description! Didn't mention all the armies in the video, but have Nighthaunt firmly listed in the normal category for just starting out. The different effects stacking and technical play of Nighthaunt doesn't lend itself 100% to being super beginner friendly, but in the grand scheme it's not too too bad!

[@thewhitehotd1172]

where would you rate Nagesh? im a 40k player but when i chose to play 40k i saw the Nagesh model and fell in love and almost started making an army for him without knowing anything

[@brib9716]

Ah, so you're the guy who likes that model

[@warpfireminis]

Nagash can throw out a ton of Arcane Bolts like a machine gun and has a pretty decent melee profile to boot BUT at 900 points it can be tough to get enough other stuff around him. For regular games he's playable and fun, but you don't usually see him on the top tables at tournaments.

[@thewhitehotd1172]

@@warpfireminis 900 pts??? 😯😯

[@Scarycrow89]

Yep, he's a 8 level wizard, he has a fun spell who says "put a dice in one of your hand, if the opponent chose the hand without dice, delete a model in close combat", but he cost almost half your army, and he is not very survivable, with 16 W, a 3+ save and 4+ ward against Mortal wounds ONLY, not a ward against normal wounds.

[@josephskiles]

​@@thewhitehotd1172 where you going to run him with Night Haunts, or one of the other death factions? 900 points is just ignorant, it makes even a 2k point list impossible to merit putting him in at that. I own a few death models just because I love them and wanted to paint them, grand alliance Death really needs to be a plausible thing again instead of having all of these little sub-factions!

[@L3GHO5T]

Another great thing for a beginner is: watch as many beginner painting tutorials, techniques, tips, ect before even buying your first model. That way when you do go in and decide what you want to buy you’ll have a good understanding of how painting working to better your chances of success and I can guarantee you if you have results that are up to or even surpass expectations, you’ll be immediately hooked!

[@warpfireminis]

Great tip!

[@sandmansleeps657]

"Here's what you shouldn't start with." 1: the army you want next 2: the army you bought to learn the game 3: *stares at old Lizardmen army*

[@mervincatarroja6665]

Great content indeed, specially fir the newbie like me... do you mind helping me in which army/ies do you think is better to hold objectives? Thank you in advance

[@thomasmonks5715]

Glad I play chaos daemons in 40k, half my army for sigmar is already there

[@warpfireminis]

New Khorne book on the way and they've already dropped some of the Daemon rules and it's looking nice!

[@redluke8119]

Im getting my 6 year old and I our first AoS armies Im going with the Dominion box tons of models and good starting armies.

[@grimb8kn748]

Once the Seraphon books and new models come out would they be on your good beginner list?

[@warpfireminis]

We'll have to see how the book looks when it comes out! New models look incredible though.

[@jamesodonnell2869]

I just got a Fyreslayers army. Haven’t played any AoS yet. Didn’t hear them mentioned. Did I make a good choice?

[@warpfireminis]

Fyreslayers are solid! Positioning is really big with them, need to make sure you keep your Fyreslayer heroes within range of the Hearthguard to keep that 4+ ward, but especially for this season you're in a great spot! I like running 2-3 Magmadroths, 2-3 heroes, and then a bunch of Hearthguard Berzerkers myself.

[@jamesodonnell2869]

Thanks, I have an active AoS community around me and have been playing 40K. Found a deal on them on EBay. They look cool and I’m hoping they will be fun to play. At least I know I will be able to find games.

[@TwilightOverheaven]

Are flesh eaters a good starting army?

[@warpfireminis]

Yeah they're pretty solid! I've seen people have some really good success running a Goul King on Terrorgheist and then 1-3 squads of 9 Horrors/Crypt Flayers as the big hammer guys, then just sneak in an Arch-Regent, some Ghouls, and whatever else you're a fan of and you should have a pretty solid list. Just make sure to have some heroes to get your Musters in!

[@MireskaSunbreeze-]

What about The Sons of Behemat? I really like the idea of Kragnos and some giants running around though I'm afraid that their playstyle is very different from the average AOS army

[@warpfireminis]

Sons of Behemat are a very good army right now in my opinion! You'll have a little bit tougher time with battle tactics since you can only achieve 4 of the regular ones; you'll have to build/plan for doing one of your book specific tactics, but they're so good at denying objective control and denying opponent's battle tactics that it's usually not a problem. You can definitely bring Kragnos in for the 3D6 charge and a little extra damage output, but to excel with Sons it's really all about staying out of combat, picking your fights, and maintaining control of the objectives for as long as you can; if you just charge in you're going to lose more games than you win.

[@MireskaSunbreeze-]

@@warpfireminis thank you:)

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

I don't know much about their tactics. But you could be spending a lot of money on them since each model is at least $120. And they are big models. But you are only painting a few rather than tens and tens of models. So could be easier to field.

[@jansuchy2643]

This helped a lot but how do you feel about fyreslayers?

[@warpfireminis]

Fyreslayers are okay game-play wise, but the lack of diversity in the models really keeps a lot of people away. The foot guys can feel really slow, but the Magmadroths make up for it!

[@seadav0183]

How do you feel about Sylvaneth? I've had my eye on the since I decided Lumineth may be a bit much for a beginner

[@warpfireminis]

Skaven is my #1, but Sylvaneth is my #2 army. They're in a great place, super fun to play with lots of movement shenanigans and some real power-house units like a block of 6 Kurnoth Scythes. Only slight bummer is that you really want to have two sets of the Wyldwood trees to play at a high level, but you can get away with one to just get started.

[@seadav0183]

@@warpfireminis Sweet man, thank you for getting back to me. Do you have a wargrove you'd recommend?

[@warpfireminis]

@@seadav0183 for the Glades I'm a big fan of Heartwood. In my opinion you're going to want 6 Kurnoth Scythes in every list, so making them battleline (to fill a slot for you) and giving your whole army +1 to hit vs. three units is just too good to pass up. For the Seasons I like Burgeoning for the 6+ ward, or if you want to go spellcast-y then Dwindling.

[@seadav0183]

@@warpfireminis Thank you again for all of the help. It's really appreciated

[@lordsnow1411]

New to game got a slaanesh starter and dominion box " my wife is playing stormcast" so opinions are welcome kruel boyz or slaanesh? And can i mix kruel boyz and iron jaws effectively? Ty in advance

[@warpfireminis]

Right now I'd say Kruleboyz. Mixing them with Ironjawz is the best right now to make a Big Waaagh army, lots of variety, easy battle tactics, and fun pieces too like the Wurrgog Prophet/Gobsprakk/Ironjawz your heart out.

[@MrMoondoor]

I just have two questions 1. Are soulblight gravelords, sons of behemat or daughters of khaine difficult for beginners? 2. Right now, are seraphon difficult?

[@warpfireminis]

1. Soulblight and Daughters are solid for beginners. Sons of Behemat are a weird one; you can do really well holding primary objectives and outscoring opponents, but you aren't the most killy. Then there are some matchups for them that can end up feeling hopeless, so it's not somewhere I normally steer people for their first army. 2. New Seraphon book is going up for pre-order this coming Saturday, so we'll find out soon!

[@3sbon]

Update they now use command abilities.

[@clayandros2038]

Hey its 2024 qould you guys do an updated version if this video?

[@warpfireminis]

I'll make a new one when the new Battlescroll drops!

[@ShinNefzen]

So I am coming from 40k looking to get my first AoS army. I play chaos knights, death guard, world eaters mainly. For my first AoS army as a noob, I am considering either beastclaw raiders or sons of behemat. Price aside, which should an AoS noob get between the two?

[@Shimmering_rain]

Hi. I know this comment is quite old, but I would like to put my two cents in. I, personally, would say go Beastclaw Raiders. Sons of Behemat play quite differently than the the other armies, so if you want to get another army you will need to get used to a different style, if only because of the likely drastic difference in army size. I do, however, see that you play Knights. I don't know how similar they are, but you should have some experience playing a low model count army. In short. I would say go Beastclaw. But if they jump out to you, then Sons would still be a good choice.

[@ShinNefzen]

I appreciate the reply! Sooo my lgs had a sale for Xmas on AoS so I ended up going sons since he didn’t have much for beastclaw. I have a kraken eater and king Brody built but beastclaw will definitely be my second army at some point.@@Shimmering_rain

[@kylelewis3096]

If I am just starting now, and haven't got much seraphon, would they still be a good option? I already purchased the new starter box.

[@warpfireminis]

Seraphon are in a pretty decent spot. The Kroak + Troglodon combo is the obvious pretty powerful choice, but I'm hoping to see some more Coalesced lists pop up here soon. We'll see some tournaments here in the next few weeks and see how things shake out.

[@goodchapp]

Hi guys, with the OBR and SBGL releasing this weekend. I wanted to start my Warhammer journey with one of them. I need some advice on which to pick up. I like how both looks, but SBGL just require to many 'zombies, I don't know if I'd have the patience to paint them. Also OBR I don't like how they are counteree by high rend / mortal would units. Any help/advice? I thought of going more elite SBGL units with the battleforce, and focus on either bloodknights. Is that better then OBR?

[@warpfireminis]

We'll have to see how both books pan out! I'll do an update on those when they launch.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

No way! Throw them into the deep end. Tzeentch all the way. Hahaha! I am disappointed they no longer sell the Daemons of Tzeentch Start Collecting Here box.

[@Erikjust]

Question where would you place Daughters of Khaine?

[@warpfireminis]

DoK are a little tricky, but not one that I would steer a beginner away from if those are the models they like. Morathi is incredible; her staying power and damage can really keep you in a lot of games; outside of her though the army is very much a glass cannon, so positioning and making sure you get the first hit in are key!

[@bjrnbjerregaard-andreassen1026]

Yo dude i know its late but what about the soulblight gravelords? I think they look very cool!

[@warpfireminis]

Soulblight are in a GREAT spot right now, they may even be a little too good haha.

[@krlecool8445]

what happened to the wood Elfs? I didn't play Fantasy nor AoS but I heard they were a faction and I wanted to puck some up for D&D.

[@warpfireminis]

They still exist right now in Cities of Sigmar; you have things like Sisters of the Watch, the Nomad Prince, Wild Riders, Eternal Guard, Wildwood Rangers, and so on, but they may get discontinued in the next book.

[@kiltman1961]

which model did you say to add to the Stormcast Dominion box set?

[@stevenmaybrier9676]

He said you can get the Stormcast half of the dominion box for around 50-60 dollars USD (saves you from having to buy the orruks, buuut you may miss out on the rulebook that comes in the starter set). Generally, the starter box is an awesome way to start because you get two starter armies you can play, which means you get to use friends as target practice and maybe get them into the game too!

[@warpfireminis]

If you already have a Stormcast half of Dominion built and are looking to add to it, here are a few of the Stormcast staples: - Stormdrake Guard - Fulminators/Tempestors - Longstrikes - More Annihilators - Knight Castellant - Protectors - Celestant Prime

[@kiltman1961]

@@warpfireminis Thanks for the information. I actually have a few of these items on the list.

[@kiltman1961]

@@stevenmaybrier9676 Thanks Steven. I have 2 dominion boxes. its hard to turn down a few good deals.

[@w0197]

Well. I have a Seraphon army (no experience playing) and was thinking about going into Bonereapers 😂 ah well. I also like Deepkin, Fyreslayer, Sylvaneth, and Gloomspite. Every army is pretty cool in AoS.

[@warpfireminis]

New Bonereapers book came out last week and is in a much better place! Still towards the more difficult side with a lot of timing things to keep track of, but at least they're playing the same game now.

[@ivanfalcon6731]

would you recommend D'Ratz (Skaven) to new players?

[@Lodorn]

Depending on your list, they can draw from many tricks. It's also not the easiest army to play, because of how fragile most of them are. But the army as a whole is not weak by all means. So if you like them, go for it and try to make informed decisions on where to take them.

[@warpfireminis]

Skaven are the focus of the next video going up now! They're a super fun army to play, but you have to be extra careful when it comes to positioning and can be on the trickier side for beginners. If you love them though, I'd 100% start there and feel good about the decision.

[@GionisTheWanderer]

What about Night Haunts? I have two teenage nephews who are getting into the game and they both had a bad time with them. It is a complicated army and not all that punchy.

[@warpfireminis]

Nighthaunt can be a little tricky for sure. There's a lot to keep track of, but that gets countered by most of the army moving 8", almost everything saving on 4+, 6's to hit auto-wounding, and so on. I wouldn't put them on the easy list by any means, but they counter a lot of what the meta armies can do so they can still compete in games without being super heavy hitters.

[@MrWaterfire279]

Started out sylvaneth both love and hate it

[@Almighty_Mage]

why do you hate it

[@bongiorno2550]

And what about skaven?

[@warpfireminis]

Skaven are a little bit tricky, but solid enough for a beginner! They're going to be the focus of the next video ideally going up next week!

[@KabutoRaija]

Where are the nighthaunts????

[@JoeFlamenco]

Hrm well, I’m still going to try Night Haunts :) I can’t lose more than I do in 40K :)

[@redjacc7581]

SOB rock!

[@hendrikmoons8218]

Been in the hoby since 1990. The only curent army (aug 2023) I DO NOT recomend AT ALL to a fresh beginner is "Sons of Behemat". All the rest, if you like it, you want it, I guess you gona run it? I personaly love Ossiarch Bonereapers and Sylvaneth, also Flesh Eater Coarts. Why not Sons of Behemat? 1. You are not learning the game, you learn big monsters stomp hard and are unkillable. 2. No fast, small battles available to you. (these are the battles you need WAY more than 2000pointers) 3. Good luck finding anyone that, on the regular wants to play versus your 3 titans AND up to 9 giants. 4. This IS a tournament army, so everybody that wants to play against you, WILL bring their A-list. Not caring you are a beginner. 5. Get a second army on the cheap... for learning the game and actualy playing it on the regular. Take an alied army of the 'grand aliance destruction', so you can sometimes get some giants in the thick of it. Then curbstomp them with your 'not SoB' big'onz.

[@acefinelli5847]

What is your opinion on the Deepkin and the Overlords?

[@warpfireminis]

Personally I prefer Deepkin! I like the aesthetic of the models more and then you have a variety of playstyles available where with KO you're pretty locked into just being a shooting army.

[@acefinelli5847]

Thank you very much.

[@maxgerrit]

Kruleboyz not even listed :(

[@warpfireminis]

They're right there in the middle! Great value to get started using the Dominion box, but can fall a little flat in the power-department aside from Boltboyz + Shaman and the Gnashtoof.

[@gem03103]

I started out with Disciples of Tzeentch. first game had no idea about the spells got my butt handed to me and had a bad time... But im not giving up I really want to be a wizard of the battlefield can anyone teach me how to play Tzeentch?

[@facelessman265]

so what about Kharadron Overlords?

[@warpfireminis]

They just got their new book so I need to get some more games in with/against them to give you a solid answer. They used to struggle a bit on objectives, but you had way more shooting than anyone else so you'd just try to blast your way to victory; the new book looks like there are some more melee options and overall balance so should be looking good!

[@tobyphillips991]

Are idoneth deepkin a good beginners army?

[@warpfireminis]

They can be! The tides take some getting used to and then you have to keep in mind that your entire army is pretty frail, so positioning and keeping units alive until that turn 3 sweet spot is key!

[@wensier1413]

What about Sylvaneth?

[@warpfireminis]

Right now I wouldn't call Sylvaneth a beginner friendly army. You normally have fewer units than your opponent so you need to be really careful about positioning; if you lose a unit it really hurts. Then on top of that the playstyle is just very technical, you need to make the right decisions on where to charge, where to teleport, where to fade away, and so on while also being light on bodies for holding objectives.

[@Gvaz]

no gitz?

[@warpfireminis]

I added a list of every faction in the description! Gitz are a fine army for beginners and are super poweful with the new Battletome!

[@billymitcham7765]

Not going to lie I thought the sons of Behemat were going to be on the recommended list since thee strong and use fewer models Than the other armies

[@Chill_guy______________9]

I would say sylthaneth there very good

[@viscounttudon68]

WHY DOES MAN-THING FORGET-IGNORE SKAVEN?

[@mitchellcleveland6182]

What I'm getting from this is that all The easiest to play are all evil as shit

[@frostytheram7490]

I was told stormcast aint for beginners desperate being the poster boys

[@warpfireminis]

Nope, they're pretty solid, just have to bring some decent units! We'll be doing a video specifically on them soon.

[@Zharusz]

I only care about 2 armies in Sigmar. Bonereaper and Tzentch. I burned my money. :(

[@warpfireminis]

Bonereapers have a new book going up for pre-order this coming Saturday! We'll see how that one pans out, but the new rules team has been killing it so I have high hopes. There's nothing wrong with Tzeentch either, they're one of the top armies; they'll just take a little extra time to master!

[@malakimphoros2164]

BEST: Idoneth Deepkin WORST: Everything Else (TM) PLAY IDONETH DEEPKIN

[@warpfireminis]

TURTLE TIME

[@thel1chking]

"For age of sigmar they do a really good job balancing the armies " 😂🤣

[@johnjafon2410]

For me its nighthaunt

[@thesamuel0107]

but that's the point of wargaming... you should choose what you like. if you like khorne... go for it... if you like elves... go for it. Rules will change every single day or hour even years and expect new player to stick with army that is just good for new player. and an argument that something has good damage and good armour save really sells to people that wanna be competetive, but many people just wanna play bollock and take like 17 spellcasters yeeting spells or when playing 40k just taking admech and bring only chicken walkers and raiders... just cause you can an want

[@warpfireminis]

Absolutely! Pointed that out a couple times in the video, at the end of the day follow your heart!

[@impermanence9053]

Best one is skaven

[@zwenkwiel816]

Please don't say skaven is the worst XD

[@larsrolfon7316]

I know this is about 6 months later but for my recommendation for new players and veterans is stay away from Stormcasts period I know alot of people like em but in reality they are by far the worst army GW has ever created, they die sooo easily; 90% of their armour saves are shit, only a few units an Characters have mortal saves, range attacks an damage suck 100% of the time, dragons are now worse then shit your lucky to have any of them at the end of the battle. Stormcasts need to be rewriten an beefed up more they became wayyyyyyy tooooo shitty to survive even against Daughters of Khaine im mean seriously everytime i play against them with my Blades of Khorne or Lumineth or my Slave to Darkness i cry for my opponent because they have no idea whats about to happen to them, so yeah stay away from Stormcast until their powered up better.

[@warpfireminis]

This new season definitely hasn't been kind to Stormcast!

[@jarlaxlebanere206]

Hey folks, Stormcasts are NOOB TRAPS.... don't believe Jordan on this one :p. Once you go deeper into the game, one will realize they've GLARING WEAKNESS. For transparency, I play Stormcasts lol

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Really? No mention of the Skaven, the Fyreslayers, the Kharadron Overlords, the Nighthaunt, the Soulblight Gravelords, the Flesh-Eater Courts, the Idoneth Deepkin or the Daughters of Khaine?

[@warpfireminis]

They're all in the description! Those are all okay starting armies, but not ones that I'd highly recommend for a true beginner.

[@piotrjeske4599]

Starting as stormcast was a very bad option l took. My friends started seraphon, DoS and LL . They are having fun, changing lists etc and my dudes are just bad. Die easy, cant hold objectives , can push stuff off objectives. Bad magic and top of that the models l initialy bought were the ones l liked. Imagine my suprise after spending 500$ and painting 1200 points of stormcast infantry to find out that sacrosancts and evocators are real bad. Wouldn't advice anyone to pick up stormcast eternals unless they don't care about fun playing . Double so , if they can't quickly rebuy an army.

[@heebieggs]

My GF and I are trying to get into age of sigmar, but she's pretty dead-set on "wood elves" being her choice; i know there used to be a wood elf army, but can't find them any more...did they get scrapped?

[@warpfireminis]

For Age of Sigmar the regular old Wood Elves got scrapped a while back. The closest thing we have is Sylvaneth which are the treefolk.