Agency 2.0 - The "Crowdfunding Scam" PR Firm!!

[@LouiesLog]

You can't introduce Kittens to a video and then just take them away. The Kittens stay for the rest of the video . You are as bad as the scammers.

[@catlord9]

I agree.

[@StopDropRetro]

I'll use my scammer immunity card to get out of this one.

[@ongakuwotabeta]

What is that a reference of?

[@alfredozambrano7641]

He thinks different.

[@LouiesLog]

@@alfredozambrano7641 He not only removed the kittens he also removed himself from KZbin :( Comeback Retro!

[@VulpesHilarianus]

Oh shit, the Tomahawk. I remember that piece of shit. People who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about were saying that it was going to kill Faraday Future and then go after Tesla. Bunch of talk around the automotive enthusiast community about it. We started tearing into the bullshit almost as soon as it showed up. That electric motor is actually a speaker, the cutaway is actually a Photoshopped promotional image of the Fisker Karma roadster prototype that died in development, and the "footage" of the car is actually a series of 3D renders of a generic supercar model they bought (or might've stolen) from a 3D model website.

[@malcolmtoney9342]

VulpesHilarianus That's where the design is from! Everytime I saw that thing I always had this odd feeling like I had seen it in some box art for a old monitor, or as a gineric car in the back round of a commercial. (this probably explains some of the complete disregard in some areas for basic design proportions, as it was never meant to be an actual vehicle.)

[@StopDropRetro]

I don't know if they're right, the Fisker Karma roadster would make sense to me but the proportions look all wrong, the nose seems a little too short to be that. Also, the door handles still don't match. Also, while I have seen the CGI promo shots, the video footage is definitely from a running car, even if it's not under electric power.

[@zzcolby27]

Also, there's a concept car called the srt tomahalk, so the name isn't original.

[@WalcomS7]

How do you fail to waterproof a watch? It's like, a piece of rubber. Come on.

[@StopDropRetro]

a lot of mistakes come from failure to use a rubber

[@WalcomS7]

God DAMNED.

[@0xbenedikt]

It's actually not that easy from an engineering standpoint to fully waterproof a product.

[@carlosandleon]

Benedikt Müssig O-rings

[@matthewferraro8020]

WalcomS7 again

[@MudanTV]

Gotta admit, the ad videos that they make sure do look good even if they don't have any substance

[@StopDropRetro]

I'll agree there. The pitch videos are very alluring to the average person. If you look up the Tomahawk video on its own it's actually kinda cringey with all their fluffy marketing speak but that's the stuff most people like to hear.

[@aidanmco]

StopDrop&Retro The car actually looked relatively impressive... I mean, the prototype is impressive, it's just a lie though.

[@Summit900]

I think I'd be more impressed if they dropped a turbo 4 or 6 cyl in it instead of full electric and I bet they'd be more successful too. Plus the car actually looks pretty good.

[@aidanmco]

Summit900 they're just jumping aboard the electric hype train. I like electric, but your average Joe can't afford one yet.

[@ApolloMcrib]

They look great to morons that don't have two brain cells to rub together. Like the electric car that takes recharging from coal powered electrical outlets. Good going idiots, you now own a car that's twice as bad for the environment, especially when you lump in lithium mining for the batteries that can't be recycled. Keep sniffing your own farts liberals its paying off in the long run.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Dubuc motors? ~ dubious motors!!

[@jakublulek3261]

And his logo is fucking Bentley ripoff (Or Austin but who remembers Austin these days). And I don't have problem with of the shelf parts but man, he is then in the field of guys like Lotus or TWR, who have way more merrit and credibility than this asshole.

[@Traingender]

How about the manual transmission on a "all electric" car, doesn't make sense because I thought electric cars were direct drive or atleast did not require gearing

[@StopDropRetro]

Oh shit! I didn't even catch that! You are correct, electric cars don't have more than one gear, it's unnecessary because they have so much torque on tap.

[@i-never-look-at-replies-lol]

Manual transmissions would be blown left & right due to the torque and the general populations inability to understand what a clutch & tranny actually does.

[@WyattFredaCowie]

Well theoretically you could have one, but it’d be completely unnecessary

[@alisdairherd9501]

Electric motors don't have more torque than gasoline or diesel (or steam) it's that they can produce that torque almost instantaneously (0 rpm) a gasoline engine generates more torque as the rpm rises. This is why they still if you drop the clutch without slipping it with a little gas.

[@Larry]

How did you not want to cover the AtariBox and get a million views from its current relevancy? :D

[@StopDropRetro]

You gotta know when to hold your cards, Larry. Sure, I could make a video now and rake in some views (but might get drowned out by so many other vids out there) or I can wait for their campaign to launch and release it at the right strategic moment to wreak havoc. Check this out: www.kicktraq.com/projects/717828519/gameband-the-first-smartwatch-for-gamers/#chart-daily My Gameband video went out on March 10th. Look how it tanked their daily pledge. They really didn't even have a strong rush of pledges at the end like most campaigns can expect. So have patience my friend! I lie in wait...

[@luisgonzalez5482]

I appreciate the evil well-doer thought process involved here. Helping the consumers, and completely annihilating scam artists.

[@luisgonzalez5482]

Larry Bundy Jr I should do that mate. As my first ever video. :x Huehuehue.

[@DijaVlogsGames]

StopDrop&Retro Wait, it's going to be crowdsourced? Do companies not know how to invest their own money anymore?

[@DijaVlogsGames]

DoomMan899 Yes, but they're still a well known name. If their project was really that great they wouldn't have problems finding investors.

[@Elias___]

You're the type of channel I could rewatch old videos of yours but I'll never get bored of them. Not a lot of channels hold that assest.

[@uzaiyaro]

>Car approved by nature. >Uses one of the crappiest GM engines ever made. If we're gonna go off on this tangent, then my car is even more approved by nature because it's got the Buick 3800, so it'll still be working when the sun goes out. Less is more?

[@StopDropRetro]

durability is eco-friendly

[@uzaiyaro]

StopDrop&Retro dude, I was given 15,000km at best from every mechanic I spoke to about an engine knock. That was nearly 80,000km and over a year ago, still hasn’t gotten any worse. No contaminated oil, no other symptoms, it’s just a faint knock accompanied by a check engine light, other than that it runs like a clock. That Buick lump of iron ore is damn near bulletproof.

[@noahmaxwell4263]

Moon Moon

[@dashcamandy2242]

SOOO right about the Ecotec. Absolute junk engine. Those 3800s though, got 215k miles on a '99 Olds Intrigue before the plastic intake gaskets let go, and since the body was rotted out, decided not to put the effort into fixing it.

[@alisdairherd9501]

We have the same motor in Australia in our commodores, usually the o-rings go due to age and dump coolant in the oil. around 15-20 years. So rack up the kilometres while you can.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Lol look at that mini electric engine.... looks like something from a dodgy milk float from the 80s.

[@StopDropRetro]

It's the sportscar of Segways

[@SianaGearz]

Go-to for functional, well rolling mockups, not fast ones, are washing machine motors. Junkyard has plenty.

[@THELATINOWILLIAM]

Please never stop doing what you’re doing

[@StopDropRetro]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@RyanFoxboi]

My boss sent me home because I'm ill and first thing I see is a new video from you. My day is better now.

[@StopDropRetro]

Aww, cool! And now you just made MY day!

[@jimv8957]

Dude this video was superb, your comedic timing and everything was just top notch in this one.

[@sonnyjimbod]

The probable reason why they have 'scam' in their title and URL (and in their keywords as well) is so that when Google indexes the site, it associates 'Agency 2.0' and 'scam' together. When people search for these terms together it'll push their 'Hey look, we do great things and totally aren't a scam' page up the results.

[@StopDropRetro]

ah! I didn't consider that! So it may in fact be intentional!

[@cerealbobkiller]

Hey! Nice video Car enthusiast here. Needed to clear something up. Dubuc is a french Canadian last name. This car is from Quebec, Canada. The Tomahawk war first revealed as a kit car at the 2014 Montréal Auto Show. This is why you saw a picture of a tomahawk with a gas engine.

[@michael1234252]

2:54 yeah they stole that slogan from Apple's Late 90's/Early 2000s campaign ads. Also look at Tesla, BMW, and GM. When they debut a prototype of an all electric car those prototypes are truly battery powered.

[@StopDropRetro]

Exactly. In many ways it's even easier to run a proto off of battery power. I remember a story about Jerry Seinfeld driving one of the first New Beetles and he was disappointed that it just had an electric motor.

[@vladnex1052]

agency 2.1 RELEASED! NEW SCAMMING METHODS !

[@StopDropRetro]

no more blue screen of bankruptcy!

[@derniemand7139]

NOW WITH 800% BATRETRY LIFE !!!!!!

[@duncanbug]

I can't believe he couldn't even make an original SLOGAN.

[@fogboundcleric1]

Does the Tomahawk prototype have literally no vents? None going to the brakes to cool them down?

[@zackschilling4376]

Whats your opinion on RETRO magazine being sold? After watching this video, the autoplay went down the Coleco Chameleon rabbit hole and when I checked, it was on Pat''s video about Mike Kennedy's Patreon. I checked out the link just for shits n giggles and found out Mike sold Retro.

[@StopDropRetro]

I don't think there's much to say about RETRO's closure. It was a magazine Mike K ran into the ground through his own hubris and I doubt the name "Retro" has a lot of value on the face of it. Any appeal to its history would only be relying on its infamy.

[@TheSanco26]

5:24 What does he mean with Euro trash?

[@saramations]

Trash that comes from Europe.

[@JewishMusicToronto]

It's crazy. I just launched a Kickstarter campaign less than 6 hours ago, and I've already been hit by that number of spam messages from "people" promising that they are definitely NOT bots, and that they definitely CAN boost the number of backers my campaign gets. Any tips on promo companies if I did want to get into that?

[@sindafella408]

Tortillas 🐈

[@joannamorgan5151]

5:44 I can't stop laughing at how this hilarious, thrown-in comment about how the backseat capacity was questioned 😂😂😂😂 you're hilarious, and thanks for this bc I just saved a small piece of my life potentially. Looking for networking events online, this company popped up and told me to visit their KZbin channel, and your video was first. You're the real 2.0 MVP 🤣

[@jovaniromo8481]

"Crowd funding scam review" oh good lord.

[@StopDropRetro]

I can only imagine their company offices being located in a hollowed out volcano with casual titles like that.

[@nathan-qcueparsons268]

Omq! Where have you been?! Your absence made me cry haha good to see you're back.I had to go back and watch Oton Ayr waiting for you 😂😂😂

[@StopDropRetro]

lol, yeah when I have busy weeks at work it disrupts my whole flow. I'm trying to get back though with more uploads! I hope I can deliver more often!

[@frido15]

The sketch of the car shows all wheel drive (with two sets of unequal length driveshafts which brings alot of problems already), but they plan on using a corvette front axle? Also, they claim to have a "prototype", but it's a rear wheel drive mid engine car, which behaves completely different from an AWD car, so the prototype is nothing more than a rolling styling concept. I would understand if they just figured out the layout and the drivetrain with a petrol engine and later put an electric motor in it's place, but this is pretty much different car.

[@Samqdf]

I would be interested to how as to why does unequal length driveshafts pose a problem? I thought it was the norm on front wheel drive cars? You make a really good point about the front axle though, you can't just convert something like that to have a drive system through it.

[@frido15]

Sam Quad it introduces "torque steer", meaning the car will pull to the side of the longer shaft. It is really common on powerful FWD cars with this setup. On a front wheel drive car you just hold on tight to the steering wheel when you are flooring it and the car will go straight, but on the rear axle you can't do that, which is why you wont find rear diffs that aren't centered under the car. Furthermore, as the name "torque steer" implies, the effect increases as more torque is applied to the shafts. So you can imagine what it would be like in combination with electric motors.

[@Samqdf]

That makes a lot of sense, thanks for the answer. I am pretty sure this would also explain why I have this much less in my later model Corolla that the one I used to have, I think they made significant improvements when the driveline design to held equalise the drive-shaft lengths. To me this very relevant point you made shows even further how limited the theory backing this concept car really is, looking at their vague diagram I see no reason why they couldn't of put the differential in the center and offset the motors to suit. They could of compensated for the offset weight with the placement of some of the battery packs. But no it looks like all they did is make a simplistic diagram with the least amount of effort to fool the majority.

[@RanFuRe]

I love it! The 'scam' descriptions left in the webside's code are wonderful :) It's just beautyful.

[@StopDropRetro]

Thanks! I still can't believe they did that. And that the site is still up like that!

[@EmeraldBlade98]

I haven't seen one of your videos in a while, so I thought you went on hiatus or something, so I searched you up. I'm still subscribed and I guess youtube just didn't put any of your videos in my sub box lol. Great video as always though.

[@salsaucy2547]

So Happy when I get a notification that u uploaded

[@StopDropRetro]

Thanks for watching! I've got more on the way!

[@Islandswamp]

Is it legal (or possible to do and still shirk any responsibility) to start an Indy go go campaign with no intent of actually making something or claiming to be attempting something that is unlikely to ever work? Maybe a time machine.

[@lentayotaysh]

Genius move putting the kittens in! I aint goin' nowhere, NO HOW!

[@scatfarmer]

"Ya if Pebble was a complete fucking dumpster fire." Subbed after that. The kittens didn't hurt either.

[@StopDropRetro]

lol, thanks!

[@luisgonzalez5482]

Well. He did think different. No other company will just use parts from older cars in a "new" car! That's pretty different!

[@StopDropRetro]

obviously you've never heard of Porsche...

[@luisgonzalez5482]

StopDrop&Retro Oh I know, I just disregard their existence.

[@MattG-mw7zi]

Wait, wouldn't tesla be the first all electric 2x2?

[@stm6910]

Hey StopDrop&retro what's your opinion on the seedi????

[@dsandoval9396]

this video is GOLD. it's like my 5th time watching it, not consecutively of course.

[@ahammer1838]

They added so much to it that they couldn't fit the clock function in.

[@michaelaranda5220]

Your video drew me in and the kittens kept me in my seat. What keeps me continually memorized is your sarcasm. Here, kitty, kitty, kitty...wait I want the other type of kitty.

[@Gambit771]

That's a North American sports car. No Eurotrash is going to want to drive that.

[@EWil313]

So, Saul Goodman doesn't work at a Cinnabon as Gene. He runs Agency 2.0

[@saraha180]

The only healthy way to think about crowdfunding is that you're making a donation. Said donation purchases you neither real property or equity. All you receive is a promise that you will receive a reward when the project completes successfully. Most likely, you will have no recourse if the project fails. There have been some successful lawsuits, but you should behave as if you have nothing more than the word of the project's leaders that they will do their best to do what they said. Despite these caveats, a crowdfunding pledge _can_ be a rational investment in some cases. You certainly shouldn't participate unless you've considered the probability of failure & the likelihood that the project would do just as well without the backing of people like you. Back the project if you won't be devastated if you get nothing and a success means you'll get something you value that you probably wouldn't get otherwise. Do *not* just think "yeah I want to buy this, so I'll give them the money before they've even made it." (PS: There are many different definitions of "investment," but a fairly general one is to give up money or effort with the expectation that it will, on average, reward you with something of greater utility in the future. That future utility doesn't have to be cash.)

[@StopDropRetro]

and what about when they don't do their best to do what they said? Your opinion seems to bar any type of recovery by backers who were swindled.

[@JN003]

why are they the number one agency recommended by KS ? (they are the first on the list) ... can yo recommend a legitimate alternative ?

[@naturevideoguy4525]

One of the best channels on YT.

[@walteralvarez1408]

Hey dude, I've got a couple of things i have wanted to say to you: -How should i/we call you, gaming gems or Stop&drop retro -Thanls for putting this type of content , not that I was a minless guy who would give do anything for anyone, but you did helped me realizr to thinl twice, analize and that many people are just scammers, and torilla lovers -where are those cartoon shorts you use from? they seem interesting and fun

[@StopDropRetro]

You can call me StopDrop&Retro or Nico. GamingGems is what my channel used to be called and I just use the name at the end still to look professional. The cartoons are all public domain and can be found in public archives. Most were made by John Sutherland who used to work for Disney.

[@bishopworks3203]

What happened to the GPD Win review?

[@StopDropRetro]

coming soon! there were a lot of requsts

[@luman1109]

How good to see that your channel is doing so good

[@matheusleandro219]

every day is a day before christmas after all

[@RobertBlow]

Love you man... Cutting wit rules. Greets from the UK.

[@StopDropRetro]

HEY BRO!! Always good to see you here. I'm glad you liked the video! More on the way

[@NonstopRam]

If there was no crowdfunding scams, it be necessary to create it

[@Aquelll]

That car company even copied their emblem from Bentley :D

[@hbarudi]

People are unhappy with cars and electronics built by the regular companies who have been raising prices and taking away features and now those kickstarters try to make false promises.

[@KarIgnishaYumi]

im sure by law you have to have side mirrors on a car or no?

[@nousername2932]

2+2 is for 2 upfront and 2 double amputees in the back... I almost pissed myself.

[@StopDropRetro]

My first car was one! I can confirm.

[@TonyExists]

Wait a second, when they said the car was "All Electric and Green". They weren't referring to being waste free, they meant the COLOR GREEN, THEY KNEW IT WAS THE HOMER CAR THE WHOLE TIME (lol)

[@ADDISON396]

9:36 WTF... WHO designed this website?!?!?!! Lmao!

[@mathewbissell199]

You sir do excellent work. Becoming one my fav channels

[@SkeetSeinfeld]

How did I not see this in my subscription box?

[@jamesflames6987]

I think they put "scam" in the title of their page so when users search for "Agency 2.0 scam" they end up on a page with all positive information.

[@angelocolantonio4254]

the ecosex man. what a legendary engine.

[@TheGreatestDownfall]

Nearly 3 months later and it's still there.

[@craiger0069]

Electric cars don't burn out that much, they just have crazy fast acceleration with very little grip issue.

[@StopDropRetro]

they also don't have air intakes near the rear wheel wells.

[@operator8014]

"The Pebl imitator, if Pebl was a complete fuckin' dumpster fire" God damn, laughed my ass of at that.

[@Qinti101]

And you have earned my rare subscription. Thumbs up!

[@StopDropRetro]

and you've earned a not-rare-at-all response from me!

[@DankBoyy00]

04:45 In that case, they used the Pontiac Solstice as a donor car.... So that's a big fuck you to everyone

[@BrianClem]

Wow. Scary shit here. What nerve these companies or scammers have.

[@theeternalsheep4800]

I can has think different?

[@StopDropRetro]

I really comments different

[@stevemclovin1566]

Why didn't they use the chevy volt engine. They took everything else from GM.

[@StopDropRetro]

that would require too much different think

[@1garrett2100]

How do they expect the sell it without mirrors? or other obvious ways they have failed safety regulations

[@IAmStefanNixdorf]

Totally in love with your videos!

[@StopDropRetro]

Thanks for watching! I'm working on more!

[@zer0ne83]

Stumbled across your stuff by chance. Damn dude, right mix of scepticism, hardcore investigation/research and dry humour. I think I will stay, kthnx. Da faq you no have 1 mil subscribers >_< yet?! I predict that by end of 2018 you will. But I reserve the right to amend and extend said prediction per universal crowdfunding T&C's.

[@mahiru20ten]

Are you going to cover crowdfunding projects that are actually successful (and not scam)?

[@guillaumebouchard2750]

Dubuc is actually a last name .I dont know why it is named like that.The the company is based in Quebec close to where i live and the car had a lot of media coverage. (Excuse my bad english i normally speak french)

[@LC-2912]

The tomahawk is the most hilarious of them all, using a 4cyl engine from the saturn ion is new to me because most new supercar companies uses corvette engines like the zenvo st1

[@StopDropRetro]

true. But also the Ion did have the Ecotec but not this one with the turbo, the Ion only had the earlier supercharged engine. They most likely got this engine out of a Cobalt SS.

[@LC-2912]

StopDrop&Retro Or maybe from the soltice gxp because is also turbocharged. Also the car in the laptop of the pitch video is more likely to be a saturn sky because of the tail lights the soltice's ones are stretched and the sky ones don't

[@bakhotwheels]

You can tell if the car is electric or not because of the front grill electric cars don't have a big grill or not even have one

[@wrux]

It still has scam in their url

[@KaeYoss]

A car that's GREEN! No one else has that! They only have viridescent, emerald, jade, sage, or eau de nil. The "no bullshit" angle is kinda refreshing. Even though it's a shit colour for a car. Especially as the only option!

[@StopDropRetro]

smooth as a nerf ball...

[@dubsy1026]

Who is that guy in the intro(

[@YummyChiilli]

Love your scam videos! Can't wait for more

[@khandarwilliam5439]

I must admit, this Agency 2.0 is a pro

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Lol...i was just watching an old video here minutes ago.

[@StopDropRetro]

Keeping you guys hooked... the first hit's free...

[@justinschuyler]

"...and two double-amputees in the back." LMAO

[@randon_lummer]

You're one of my favorite people on the internet

[@StopDropRetro]

lol, thanks dude! I appreciate the support!

[@ikaikaikaika2419]

>making fun of young people >shows an image of an almost 30 year old man

[@FizzleFX]

6:03 Steel Coffin

[@robertnewman4854]

The Entertainment 720 of Kickstarter.

[@kyle857]

Based on the tail lights I would say it's a Saturn Sky, the Pontiacs better looking sibling.

[@TheWinnieston]

You're back!!!!

[@StopDropRetro]

trying to work on more vids! Thanks man

[@robertjusic9097]

05:27 somebody care to explain this joke?

[@StopDropRetro]

a lot of supercars are driven by rich kids. Funny that the parts that go into this one will be older than them

[@robertjusic9097]

StopDrop&Retro why the picture od rimac then?

[@nathan-qcueparsons268]

Congratulations, you made another flock of con artists disappear, a trick that never gets old, bravo.👏👏👏

[@StopDropRetro]

Thank you!

[@josephwodarczyk977]

4:30 BONUS PUPPER!

[@Benzinilinguine]

That chassis is the most hilarious thing ever. It looks like what a first year metal shop would slap together if they were trying to make a prototype car. Jesus christ. Straight lines and boxes. I'm sure that handles well in a crash.

[@viperRX]

I am a car guy too. Tomahawk is worse than shit. You can tell just by the outlook and the design of it. No need to see anything under the hood

[@gmcnewlook]

Didn’t apple used to use that think different line as a slogan? So yup, not even original........

[@sulaimaanchamda4501]

4:14 i swear i have the same paperweight.

[@miehz]

yay..new video! gonna grab me some popcorn!

[@StopDropRetro]

hope you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@MrBenMcLean]

I believe "Think different" is just short for, "Think in a way that is different" which would be correct English.

[@RetroPlus]

Hey watch out stop drop and retro, they could go after you for saying it's a scam.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

And then around 2020 he went missing for almost a year. 🤣

[@uzaiyaro]

And for what it’s worth, I saw a glimpse of the omnicharge in some of the slides. I have one. It’s fucking AWESOME. it took about a year to get to me but it was worth every day and every cent. I absolutely love it. Best battery bank I’ve ever bought.

[@TheSanco26]

They changed it to : "The #1 Crowdfunding Marketing Service Firm"

[@StopDropRetro]

URL still works for me