Agetec HKT-7300 Sanwa Mod (Guide) - Sega Dreamcast Fightstick

[@AtelierGokujou]

Hey all. Just went through the stick replacement on my DC Agetec Stick, using this video as the main reference. To everyone on the channel, you've got my sincere thanks for making this tool of reference for making this modification. That being said i'de like to leave make light of two problems I ran into. First, when removing the mounting plate of the Sanwa, from the body of the stick itself, I had great difficulty, and ended up stripping a screw. Sanwa seems to have put a type of glue on the bottom of the screw and into the slot after the plate was secured. This led to difficulties unscrewing. Maybe it was my tools, maybe its something they do with certain model sticks, either way I found that heating the bases up just a bit let loose the screws and made for easy removal, just a heads up. The second problem has to do not only with this video but most reference videos I found. When saudering the wires from the old harness to the new stick I found that the Diagram is incorrect. The Agetec wiring harness order is Y,O,R,Br,B, (orange and red are flipped in the diagram), however when matching up the colors the Diagram is correct (Red goes to Green & Orange goes to Red). Just a heads up I figured I would follow the top to bottom order for the diagram instead of matching up the colors, which just led to a quick test, de-sauder and re-sauder. Anyways! Stick feels great, dremeling the plastic case to fit the stick, drilling and saudering all went off without a hitch. I highly suggest the stick modification, especially if you are passionate about keeping you dreamcast setup up to date and feeling the best it can. Keep dreaming and thanks BNG for all the videos!

[@BNGamesYT]

Thanks for the comment dude, this vid is pretty old so I dont remember much about the wiring to be honest but I hope your comment helps anyone else that might run into any issues. We definitely never had problems unscrewing the panel but I bought it used so someone might have done it before we did this mod too. Ill pin this comment so everyone can see it!

[@rikrok7098]

Thanks for this guide, just did the mod, really useful! About the confusion with the stick wiring, it depends what rotation you put the circuit in. I kept mine to the same as the original board (so the wires come out around 8 o'clock, near the main board). Like this the correct wiring to the Sanwa is: black to black yellow to green orange to orange red to yellow brown to red unless different Agetecs are using different coloured wires. A way to make sure is follow on the circuit from the pin to the up/down/left/right switch on both boards and writing down which goes to which.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

Do not use a dremel to do this mod. All you need is a metal cutting stepper bit in 30mm. It will make a perfect 30mm hole.

[@MartinIrwin]

what about mounting a new stick?

[@bmmcwhirt]

@@MartinIrwin Not much you can do different there if you want to go with a Sanwa stick. Keep in mind they grabbed some Sanwa parts and did this with what they had on hand. Planned out this is how I would do it. I would probably cut a metal plate that fits in that recess on the top with counter sunk holes. I'd like to prolong the plastic as long as possible and that would go a long way. I would also not splice wires like that I would just put a new JST(I think that's a JST, I would have to look it up to be sure) end on. Same thing with the buttons.small bit on hot glue on the pin connector and JST connectors so they don't come lose. I would also add a small bit of hoe glue on each button just to help keep them from spinning. With out proper holes they will eventually spin. What wasn't around when this video was made is the Paradise Arcade OBS-MX. I would be using those in my Sanwa buttons but I'd be replacing the switches with filmed and lubed Glorious Panda switches. I also have a Link Quick Release JLF Shaft that I would use.

[@louisdominquez5535]

Just found this! My agetec is acting up, might have the courage to do this. Great vid. that Wii shop music is calming. Thanks, gents.

[@vincentp98]

hi, well i will do this mod soon, as i don't have a dremel, will use cuting peper bit for the buttons, and probably fibreglass for the stick, i think, by forcing the screws you can probably go through the plastic...for the easy wiring i bought harness for this stick, easyer, no soldering.

[@GreigaBeast]

I love the dreamcast vids !

[@GDLenter]

Please call them arcade sticks :) They were around long before mad catz :)

[@auralynn3862]

THANK YOU These beauties are the *only* thing we can use for retro titles and modern 2D games that don't *require* analog input. D-pad feels gross and keyboard is just a complete MESS of spaghetti input.

[@Lemagicdude]

After performing this mod on my personal stick, I've realized that you really don't need to buy new wires outside of the ground Daisy chain and JLF harness. if anything, save yourself ~$5 and buy .110" quick disconnects and crimp them onto the wires from the original 6 button harness. Easily saves 10 minutes in the process.

[@BNGamesYT]

I agree, we just had never done it before though

[@davidmagdaleno]

@@BNGamesYT Hello, just wanted to ask, just to be sure. Does it matter if the wiring isn't the rainbow color, pretty hard to find those (probably due to your mod suggestions) does it matter if I use the white ones, they have the same description and everything. Only difference is they're solid white. Thanks in advance.

[@BNGamesYT]

@@davidmagdaleno Do you mean on the stick harness itself?

[@davidmagdaleno]

@@BNGamesYT I meant for the button connection, do they have to be multi color, or can I get get them all the same color, ie. Blue, Grey, White, etc..

[@BNGamesYT]

@@davidmagdaleno They call be the same color if you want, but that might make it difficult if you are troubleshooting. A multimeter might be better to onow which signal is coming from and going to which specific button.

[@auralynn3862]

Back away from the Dremel! Focus Attack has plexis for this puppy now. As for octagon gates vs. square gates? Why not both? You know, in the *same gate*. Check out Seimitsu's LSX-NOBI-01.. Standard has a bubbled square gate and Pro has an N64-inspired gate.. Plus in our case we actually modeled up a lovely little solution for Seimitsu's LS-32. Tried doing a Sanwa GT but got the measurements off so bad it just... does *not* fit correctly at all. Can force it, but it's pretty awful.

[@retrobutton]

Thanks for the guide! My trusty Dreamcast Arcade Stick works better than ever. Good work!

[@BNGamesYT]

Thank you sir, glad to be of help

[@studioAGL]

Late comment but agetech is *A*SCII *G*ame *E*ntertainment *Tech*nology, so you guys were right. Thanks for the in depth video and cheers!

[@BEATSofDevil]

Sorry you lost me at the drilling for the stick. Why didn't you drill to fit the screws for the new jlf? And then what happened when you ran into a problem? It wasn't clear to me what problem you came across and what you did to address it (it sounded like you just still used the screws that were on the stock agetec stick?)

[@justinhennigar3830]

Octagonal gates are terrible. Just use a square gate.

[@BNGamesYT]

Hard disagree, chief.

[@justinhennigar3830]

BNGamesReviews well you and the 7 other people that prefer octagonal gates should just keep on using them even though they suck.

[@BNGamesYT]

@@justinhennigar3830 lol ok buddy, thats' why they sell them by the boatload.

[@ZBR_ProXP]

this looks so much harder than i thought it would be

[@dondraper3898]

I want to cry watching this video. I appreciate the effort but that arcade stick was the best one ever made in my opinion. I don't give a f*ck if it came with Sanwa, Semitsu, Happ or Zippy parts embedded.

[@DenkyManner]

The original joystick get bad really fast to the point games become unplayable. It's good when it's in like-new condition but it wears out very easily.

[@odeowastaken]

dont cry bro

[@dondraper3898]

@@odeowastaken Thank you! It never hurts to have some encouragement from time to time.

[@jakegaydos3325]

used a wire harness from focus attack, and it seems very incompatible with this set up. left and right directions are switched. the wiring diagram pdf isn't working. broken link or something. do you have another way to view the wiring diagram? do you know which wires i need to switch to get left and right back to normal?

[@justinsane1335]

Cool mod. The biggest flaw in the design of the DC stick, is the fact that the console recognises it as a stick, and not a standard controller. This means that games have to actually support it, in order to use it. An additional mod, would be to use an MC Cthulhu, or DC pad hack, so that the console would recognise it as a controller instead, so you could use it on all DC games. Bubble bobble doesn't even support the arcade stick.

[@BNGamesYT]

+Justin Sane I would have been really into that idea had I not actually bought a few Candy Cabs and have arcade accurate hardware now lol

[@JasonDuckett1]

Wow, just tested this on Bubble bobble. That's dissapointing. I would love to use a DC pad to mod the agetec and still have VMU compatibility.

[@arcadedbeast]

18:09 I got a little bit triggered :) Just because there are 8 possible directions on a joystick and an octagonal gate has 8 directional guides doesn't mean it's superior to a square gate. It's the other way around. A square gate is all about freedom of accessing the microswitches. An octagonal gate will restrict the possibilities and give you 8 annoying notches. If you press right on a square gate you have the possibility to also tap/press the down direction freely. On an octagonal gate you have to ride the gate back and down to access the down/forward direction. And Japanese sticks are designed so that you play with the microswitches with muscle memory and the gate is there only to keep the movement not going too far and to guide into the corners but it doesn't restrick any movement. I grew up with American Happ arcade parts too where there was a bat top and 8 directions so the way to use Japanese and American joysticks is a lot different. Octagonal gates were only installed in less than 0.05% of cabinets because they were almost never needed. They have only gained popularity through American youtubers who had no knowledge of how a Japanese arcade stick with a square gate works. However everyone should use whatever they prefer using.

[@BNGamesYT]

This like some Arcade copypasta

[@perfectshave85]

Can you please explain in a little more detail about the separate crimps for the ground method? Also did you guys use nuts on the bolt for the arcade stick to keep the bolts from getting loose? Or was just a bolt and washer enough? Please let me know. Thanks.

[@mixmasterp2k3]

How did the play dough hold up?

[@perfectshave85]

Great video. Looks like you guys had fun making this :D

[@SaminPK]

Great video thanks! Just wondering if you could do a video of modding this arcade stick with the the actual controller PCB of OG Xbox. Would be awesome to use this arcade stick modded at PCB level on OG Xbox without using laggy converters. Wish OG Xox had a "single" decent arcade stick.

[@BNGamesYT]

Sorry, this vid is nearly 10 years old now and I dont have another one of these sticks to mod. I wouldnt recommend ruining this stick to work on an OG Xbox either, better to build something purpose built.

[@jonathanthompson4296]

is it possible to install a mc cathulu into a stick like this and still keep the original dreamcast functionality including vmu

[@corehazard4709]

we got a lasercut machine at work. i just lasered a now cover. and painted it in green :D

[@Guitarmy32]

really good video! I'm going to do it a bit different, but good tutorial none the less! great job gentlemen

[@BNGamesYT]

lol tyvm

[@Superdimensional]

Sweet scratch over the X button 😒

[@BNGamesYT]

Dremel went crazy, learn from our experiment.

[@DingoYabuki]

Thanks for the help!

[@HarukaMorishima]

I got a question regarding the Dremel 932 bit, which 932 bit is it? The Dremel 932 1/8" Metal Grinding Stone Cylinder or the Dremel 932 3/8" Aluminum Oxide Grinding Stone?

[@BNGamesYT]

Metal Grinding Stone I think......the video is kind of old.

[@mikee920]

What song is playing in the background?

[@BNGamesYT]

Wii shop music

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Here are some parts that I recommend for an arcade stick: 1. Korean bat-top stick with built-in micro switches. And 2. Sanwa buttons and no turbo features. Turbo features are for cheaters.

[@Danny_Rux]

Dustin Nunn I used to swear by the bat-top until I picked this fightstick up (which was in 2017). Huge fan of the ball-top now.

[@Kevaughan]

What was the original stock stick?

[@kolasni13]

its a lower quality japanese style joystick probably made by sega themselves..

[@Kevaughan]

nck.masters Thanks I thought for a second it was an LS-40 when I saw the white actuator :/ then the PCB design threw me off lol

[@BNGamesYT]

***** It doesn't have any clear indicators on it, just checked.

[@vincentp98]

the originals stock stick and buttons are ALPS...didn't find a lot of informations on it.

[@ScanlineCity]

LOVE THE MOD DUDE! Im a big fan of the agetec - i stopped counting how many i own. Check out my new video on the agetec I think you will really dig it!

[@kolasni13]

whats sawna?

[@BNGamesYT]

It's me being tired at 4am posting this video up -_- Fixed it.

[@kolasni13]

BNGamesReviews No worries, nice mod keeping it Dreamcast original!

[@jdgjuggernaut]

I have that stick.

[@The_JP251]

funny background music

[@pierrevalentino6904]

It's real Easy.....Yah......Really easy

[@BNGamesYT]

Indeed it was :)

[@MinttuStoo]

Hey guys, really nice looking mod and gives me inspiration to change the stick/buttons to Sanwa. During your modding could anyone explain as to whether I could change the yellow start button to a traditional white player 1 button style instead? I don't like to advertise anyone's site but this is the example of the button (or similar) I'd like to replace the yellow one with. www.arcadeworlduk.com/products/IL-Arcade-Start-Button.html Basically I'm currently designing a Soul Calibur gaming coffee table where the stick and buttons will be housed/recessed onto the table. I'll create a housing for the VMU but the yellow button is horrible colour for what I plan in doing as my colour scheme. Any help in right direction would be great and apologies for the Web address.

[@MrBootydoo1]

Sad sad sad ..so rare ...so mutilated..so yours so I guess...lol nice vid

[@BNGamesYT]

Mutilated? with upgraded buttons? lol ok.

[@fuckin_uuuh9944]

"with octagonal gate" 😐

[@BNGamesYT]

Octo gate is best gate.