Aggravation on Purpose?

More than once or twice I've upset one of my KZbin viewers and contributors! I'm pretty sure I'm about to do it again. Shared cycle and pedestrian areas cause conflict this time.
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[@andrewnorris5415]

Let's also not over-react to this cyclist and give a little slack. This will allow him space to see he was wrong on this occasion. If we go all aggressive on him here, we are being just as bad as he was in over-reacting to this one location? He may well be a decent bloke who is safe in many other ways.

[@samcerulean1412]

No he seems like a twat, pretty obvious.

[@ayymao1017]

I see cyclists are also a "protected class" now, joining the other special people.

[@trainman665]

If this is how he behaves on a bicycle, just imagine what he is like in a car!

[@neiltill7414]

He may well also be a really nice bloke when not on a cycle or driving a car ( if he does) I know people who are nice as pie when not driving but everyone is wrong as soon as they get behind the wheel or in this case on a bike. People like this very rarely learn, but that's why Ashley has highlighted it just on the chance he may learn.

[@ADAMLFC92]

Are you the bloke who submitted these videos? Lol

[@Larry]

Drivers can't stop at the lines painted as they've be completely blind to traffic coming in either direction. Terrible road markings from the council there.

[@derekheeps1244]

That really is dreadful design for a shared space ; here in Scotland , at least , the cycle lanes have give way lines across them where they meet side roads ; that would be much safer on that road too . Just as pedestrians should stop , look and listen before stepping out into a roadway , so should cyclists on pavement bound cycle lanes .

[@The-D33J]

Hello you!

[@Pfooh]

@@derekheeps1244 Or take the dutch approach: Narrow the main motorway, swerve the cycle path into the space that has just become available, and move the give way lines well past the wall/hedge

[@PeterBee911]

Bad design indeed, but most of them should slow down more and even stop before going to the cycle lane.

[@markberry3494]

Lets face it councils put these 2nd rate junctions in and leave us to argue amongst ourselves ,pathetic.

[@chilli_Tea]

People are prepared to give their lives to prove they have right of way 😂

[@celticconlanger6401]

I hate how true this is...

[@saied121]

People would genuinely crash just to say they had the right of way

[@markwright3161]

@@saied121 People have and sent dashcam footage of it into those UK compilation channels. I've watched one clip where someone drove head-on into someone else taking a right turn over a mini roundabout, perhaps even on the wrong side of it, and accelerated into it with a child in the car who understandably starts screaming after the crash, severe enough to throw the camera up on it's mount (so it ended up looking at the sky). It appears they believed the oncoming car going straight ahead should have gave way to them turning right. Utterly insane.

[@SGuy889]

Correct. It's called self absorbed idiot syndrome. IE . The human condition

[@SGuy889]

@@saied121 idiot's I say

[@rickyslater5244]

My driving instructor always told me to "creep and peep" when emerging with a restricted view. One of those little phrases that I always remember even 20 years later

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

Spot on - the drivers are creeping out to aid their visibility. He'd maybe prefer that they just took a chance when joining the road.

[@sillybait1329]

My driving Instructor always told me the same and to always be aware that a drunken Irishman or cyclist could appear from anywhere

[@Son-Of-Gillean]

Also works for peeping Tom's

[@OldQueer]

Mine told me that too, but he's currently in HMP Belmarsh for voyeurism.

[@grahamlive]

@@sillybait1329 That's a strange thing to say. Are drunken Irishmen more dangerous than inebriated people of other nationalities?

[@konradc12]

As a person who cycles quite a lot, you gained a subscriber. Your rant is about being safe is very valid.

[@paulreed5077]

That has to be one of the most ridiculous & stupid bit of road planning I have seen. The give way lines are too far back for anyone approaching that junction to see left and right, so drivers are automatically in most cases just going to travel past the give way line so they can see both ways.

[@gordon861]

I was thinking the same, and was wondering if they Council ever had a Safety Audit done on the junction/crossing.

[@jfletcher1029]

Stupid road planning happens all over the place in the uk. It’s a miracle those people are still employed and not held accountable.

[@blueberrysavers3547]

Why not just make it a zebra crossing so that drivers, cyclists and pedestrians know that there is a road coming up and make sure that drivers give pedestrians priority

[@broadsword6650]

It looks like there’s been an attempt to make this into a ‘continuous pavement’ of the type typical in the Netherlands, but with those high hedges at either side left in place the planners have created a potential death trap. Done on the cheap. Half a job. I’d like to see the junction from the car drivers’ point of view, and it’s odd that the Cammer chose to ride his motorbike up to a different junction,, without the pedestrian crossing and without the high hedges (and still managed to mess it up).

[@brianocampo7981]

​@@blueberrysavers3547 The zebra crossing would make little difference anyway. The real problem is the poor visibility. Even with a zebra crossing, there is no opportunity for an emerging driver to respond to another cyclist's presence. The only way to see past the line and (give way) is to: - bob one's head over the steering wheel and beyond the A-pillars, assuming your seat belt allows you to lean that far forward - peep and creep past the line as the other drivers do The law does say that 'giving way' should not force the other road user to change course or direction, but to do that TO THE LETTER in this situation would need supernatural psychic skills. The alternative is to launch straight out of the junction, hoping that you don't crash to a cyclist.

[@MrJibble]

The submitter can easily avoid that incident 7 minutes into the video by not going for a bike ride on 19 October 2025.

[@20shourya]

brilliant!

[@SGuy889]

Is his surname Conner?

[@blueberrysavers3547]

Or just waiting behind as the driver wont be expecting a cyclist

[@jackw7714]

This comment actually made me rofl

[@thorin4406]

He's going 23mph, up to 88mph in a bit!

[@benedictearlson9044]

10:32 Agree with all your points on this one, too far over to the right so the van driver was correct to beep him and the pedestrian was already on the pavement and has priority as a more vulnerable highway user. Extremely poor cycling followed by shameful behaviour with the pedestrian.

[@marka2520]

It's taken me a few years but I've also developed a stoical view to other road users. I let the aggressive go by with a resigned, "carry on" but the real reward has been the grateful looks from those who err and the acceptance from those who give me a warm smile when I apologise for being the one at fault. Thank you. Driving is a skill but so is courtesy.

[@whophd]

Defensive driving really involves accounting for others’ mistakes. It’s not about enforcing rights of way!

[@SGuy889]

These drivers and cyclist who drive like knobs will only realise this when they have a massive crash . Until then .

[@forresten]

That is exactly my point also. You fix what you can, and you stay clear of things you may get worse. Getting worked up will only irritate the other road users.

[@DevonDashcam]

Absolutely 👍🏼

[@welshlogic6320]

My driving teacher would say "my right of way leads right to the grave" that having the mindset of my right of way and charging ahead (like on many dash cam videos) leads to people being killed on the road when you need to account for the poor driving of others

[@Kavlor1]

Parked cars can be the culprits where they've created a blind spot so you end up having to give way where normally you have right of way.

[@pirateadam3686]

What about the maniac woman with the buggy? If she had been 4 feet to the right and going 30 mph faster she could have hit the poor cyclist

[@ciankiwi7753]

absolute madness, right?

[@ldarm]

This got me 😂

[@feanor5037]

🤣🤣🤣

[@grahamwicks9970]

But she wasn't so

[@feanor5037]

@@grahamwicks9970 That's the joke.

[@bradleystannard3492]

2 Things: 1. You’re the softest thing on a road, just let them go 2. All it’ll take is a teenager in a shitbox for this guy to understand point 1

[@jiayojames]

Which is why the authorities need to take VASTLY greater punitive measures against drivers who disregard the safety of vulnerable road users. The van driver at 8 minutes, for instance... just straight up revoke his licence. It wouldn't take long for the roads to be a much safer place.

[@nonegone7170]

@@jiayojames Meh, the cyclist is constantly looking for confrontation, he'll bite off more than he can chew one day soon. Road rash form asphalt isn't nice, guess some cyclist have to learn it the hard way...

[@jiayojames]

@@nonegone7170 unfortunately it is not only confrontational cyclists who have to endure dangerous drivers on the roads who rather than taking extra care around vulnerable road users instead do the exact opposite and use it as an opportunity to throw their weight around. These people need to be banned from driving, without hesitation. The current lax attitude is killing people.

[@CalumOH]

@@jiayojames The cyclist cut lanes. If that was a motorist and the van was a police car, he'd have been stopped, fined and possible get given points on his license. From my point of view its a good job the van got infront of him as the cyclists as seen from these clips is a danger to himself and others.

[@hughgardiner7069]

Well you have a new subscriber now. What sets you apart as far as I’m concerned is just how fair you are in calling out bad practice, wherever it may be, while acknowledging prior good practice. The fact you acknowledged a time where you were at fault (in a different video about turning left and hitting a cyclist alongside you, was the last selling point. Excellent work!

[@J-Stoic]

The Cyclist just comes across like he wants an incident and is going out of his way to get someone to hit him. Stupid junction regardless.

[@THISISLolesh]

Sad thing is he’s on a bicycle, if that incident he wants so badly actually happens it aint gonna be pretty for him.

[@horrgakx]

Totally agree. Proving a point on a bad road layout instead of a bit of give and take to make everyone safer.

[@woutervanr]

Totally, blind junctions are just unsafe even with the best drivers.

[@BenosTDG]

7:00 It's alright, he's got 4 and a half years to learn from his mistake before he commits it.

[@musicalSpearman]

An anonymous time traveller! Maybe he uses a bicycle instead of a Delorean...

[@markwright3161]

@@musicalSpearman At 25mph he can only take a quarter of the material with him Edit; That might explain the 'going up to 25 mph' comment, he was about to jump forward 4 years so the van wouldn't have needed to overtake :)

[@RollingHousesUK]

hahahah 🤣 👍🏼

[@mattsmith1849]

Great unbiased analysis Ashley. I spent 25 years as an HGV driver, fixing other drivers mistakes multiple times daily. My wife used to ask me how many lives I’ve saved today, most days it was in double figures. If a subscriber cancels subscription because he’s arrogant and entitled, that’s his problem, I can only see your subscribers going up mate, well done for standing by your morals. It’s such a rare thing these days 👍

[@mikeh2006]

I'm still driving them. 10 years so far. So many mistakes from drivers, I don't get annoyed with it. I expect it. I do get a bit annoyed when the occasional driver is purposefully driving like a complete tool and aiming it at me, but I don't react. Just makes it worse, but that's rare. Some drivers just don't seem to like hgvs. And some don't like anyone at all.

[@villarule06]

Came across your channel from the UK Dash Cameras channel. I like to watch these as a way to either try and predict whats going to go wrong or work out fault/what could've been done to avoid. I spent 10 years driving delivery vans and training drivers so like to think I at least had a good level of driving knowledge and ability so I like to try and keep some of that level up in my current driving. It's great to see someone like yourself going through the time and effort to spread awareness and knowledge of common every day faults.

[@GilesWendes]

What a terrible bit of infrastructure. People will be hit there.

[@maff1975]

I agree, awful design.

[@magdapiotrowska9451]

This is Bournemouth 😂 there's a lot more spots like that around unfortunately.

[@GilesWendes]

@@magdapiotrowska9451 yeah, I've cycled there. I live in London and we have excellent routes that have incredibly dangerous spots. A van drove into my path last year and I hit him at 25 mph 😭

[@laurencebutcher696]

@@GilesWendes ouch! Hope you weren't too badly injured!

[@GilesWendes]

@@laurencebutcher696 bit of a bruised shoulder. He was very sorry. His wing mirror didn't survive. Hope that taught him the lesson he needed!

[@woutervanr]

What kind of person looks at the clip at 10:10 and thinks "yes, this is a normal position to ride in before turning right"? Surely every sane person would ride approximately where the right wheel of a car would be, at about 70% of the lanewidth? Do you really think you'll win in a headon collision, honestly? And then you turn without any handsignal and almost ram, what looks to be, a 60-year-old man and then send it in, presumeably thinking you're in the right?

[@KyonXyclone]

Come on give the pedestrian a break, he doesn't look that old!! 🤣

[@Eismensch386]

"look how dangerous it is on the roads for a cyclist!" - Yeah, it's dangerous because you don't use your brain. One of the most useful things my parents told me as a kid: "You may be right, but it's you who will end up in a wheelchair. The car driver has a crush-collapsible zone, you don't"

[@AndrewEbling]

Yes and that's exactly why drivers think they can get away with bullying cyclists off the road.

[@huepix]

My dad said " you may be dead right"

[@ashwayn]

You dont use cycle paths

[@tazmanrehman]

Good upbringing count yer blessings 👍

[@AtomicShrimp]

Here lies the body of Thomas Grey, Who died defending his right of way. He was perfectly right as he sped along, But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong

[@craigrigby]

Love the videos - always a balanced view in my opinion. I think watching quite a few of your videos does from time to time make me reflect on my own driving. I think there's a lot of aggression, proving a point, one-upmanship etc. on the roads. The better road users definitely need to anticipate and rise above it all where possible.

[@steamhammer2k]

Are road planners able to see though trees and fences. This is a stupid design for a junction. what`s the point of a give way line in a place you cannot see from it just going to cause problems like this.

[@derekp2674]

Sometimes I wonder whether road planners actually drive or ride themselves.

[@davidellis8141]

As in so called smart motorways.

[@ColinMill1]

@@davidellis8141 Indeed. I think the OED needs a new entry - Smart (adj.) prefixing an extremely dumb idea executed with software.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@davidellis8141, in fairness, the original set up for a smart motorway works. The current set up lacks the main safety features: refuges every 800m, (now every 1 1/2 miles), auto-signalling run from detection cameras. The first stretch was set up right, all the rest done on the cheap. No more until reviewed, but current contracts to be completed. Stay alert, keep your spacings, allow for others Not doing that & you should be fairly safe. On another note, I Have seen one idiot changing a tyre (ns) in an active lane 4 of the M25 with concrete K-rail style central reservation.... no HiViz even. Don’t think they Got a Darwin Award, but Were a nominee

[@keithnorman3519]

Apparently the planner was savaged by his guid dog.

[@stationcolossus]

Imagine how deluded you'd have to be to edit this together and send it to another person thinking that they'd agree with you

[@elcamionero1200]

That’s the modern entitled cyclist for you!

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@elcamionero1200 Oh please, the entitled moton is by far a bigger problem!

[@elcamionero1200]

@@ynotnilknarf39 ‘moton’?

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@elcamionero1200 A slur term for a motorist, sort of based around the word automaton, as in not deviating from their pre determined thinking/actions, so just a mechanical unemotional/uncaring thing. It sums up a significant number of people driving motor vehicles.

[@WRXMK]

@@ynotnilknarf39 Both are as bad as each other

[@kennethjor]

Your videos are excellent, please keep doing them. I consider myself a pretty safe driver, but I also make mistakes and poor decisions in the moment. Seeing detailed breakdowns of exactly what people are doing wrong is very helpful.

[@jray9786]

Love your stuff Ashley..I’m a London cabbie and spent 4 years on a scooter learning the knowledge and it improved my road craft and awareness.I think a year on a motorcycle should be part of the driving test curriculum as it would teach new drivers to anticipate quickly what fellow road users are about to do

[@kevint3845]

You can always tell a deluded individual when they turn sounds on and off to favour their own views, could do with reading the Highway Code, that’s all of it not just points that they believe helps them when they deliberately cause arguments.

[@louise6395]

This is a result of really poorly planned infastructure.

[@mrglide7078]

For me, the dead giveaway of a deluded road user is where they feel the need to prefix their footage with a screen full of large font narrative - y'know, just in case you get the 'wrong' idea of what's about to unfold.

[@thebeast12333]

@@louise6395 Nah it's the result of a clown on a bike

[@highpath4776]

the PAVEMENT riding in front of TWO pedestrians is clearly dangerous (and not in accordance with present hightway code )

[@pwilkinsonliverpool]

I'm impressed that he's living in 2025 while the rest of us are stuck in 2021

[@jfletcher1029]

He come from the future

[@xhogun8578]

Can he let us know what a post covid world looks like. Did Trump run for president again? If so did he win and are we all doomed 🙃

[@aaron-by4vz]

Yeh i did notice that he must be a time traveller 🤣

[@capnskiddies]

It hasn't done him any good. You'd think he'd know what's around every corner if he's lived it before.

[@woutervanr]

With this kind of riding he's not going to survive that long, surely ;)

[@How-2-drive]

Great content Ashley, I'm a fan of your work. I can see why you get so many views. Spot on

[@peterkemp8633]

Spot on as always, not naming and shaming, we all do things wrong sometimes, and if we don't realise that we are doing something wrong we can't adjust for the better how we use our roads, sometimes we all need someone to tell us straight so we can improve for all of our benefit. Brilliant channel Ash, massive respect to you, all the best to all

[@christopherdooley9324]

Thank you Neil. I have been driving for over 45 years and have lately become the type of driver who seems to need to point out other driver's mistakes. Since watching your videos I have changed my attitude for the better, as a result my journeys have become much less stressful. You are doing a superb job and I hope that your videos continue to spread the word.

[@danieldarks3721]

This is true for me also. I am learning a lot and enjoying it at the same time

[@mynewcolour]

100% my biggest takeaway from discovering this channel. There will always be risks (and poor drivers). How we deal with these is as much to with attitude as it is skill or experience.

[@angel22893]

@@mynewcolour I’ve often got Ashley’s voice in my head saying ‘make it a non-event’. He’s a great help

[@mynewcolour]

@@angel22893 ha! Yeah, that’s a pretty healthy mantra.

[@zaink7037]

Same here. I feel also my dashcam has helped me stay calm. Any dangerous or inconsiderate drivers who purposely are driving in that way I report

[@barnabydrives3834]

this is exactly why drivers hate cyclists. as a cyclist myself i see exactly what he did wrong and all road users should learn from this

[@alastairward2774]

Drivers take the hump with everything, needlessly so.

[@woutervanr]

Yeah, I now finally know who cyclist haters are basing their hate on. The clip from the 10 minute mark is pretty jarring to watch as a cyclist and a driver.

[@tjfSIM]

@@woutervanr Yeh. I think it's this kind of self-righteous, deluded entitlement that really grates on drivers. Most cyclists are not like this, but some are. He's on the offensive as soon as he sets off, and is preoccupied with trying to spot other people's mistakes or catch other people out, rather than focusing on his own road use. But if he spent more time on the latter, he wouldn't have any clips to upload.

[@woutervanr]

@@tjfSIM "Most cyclists are not like this, but some are." The same can be said about drivers or any group of people. Nothing new, nothing special. It's just pretty long ago (maybe even never) that I saw someone cycle this bad. Thank fuck that he's doing it on a bike though and not with a car.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Bollocks, drivers hate people on bikes because they're arseholes, typical thinking that because one/few make errors or act like a dick this should extend to everyone. I see you used the "as a cyclist myself", sorry but your words are typical moton bullshit. The driver made the first error, the person on the bike got irate and should have left it at the driver made an error and just go on their way. Maybe if this was a child or a person on a mobility scooter or a pregnant women cycling you'd change your tune, or maybe not!

[@frostycab]

I love this video so much. You've done a great job of highlighting what I consider to be one of the biggest problems on the roads: An intense desire by many road users to WANT to be wronged and have something to complain about. I'm not singling out any one group with that statement. We see it all the time in videos like this, whether it be car drivers, lorry drivers, motorcyclists or regular cyclists. Some will go out of their way to create situations and conflict where it simply isn't needed, critical of everyone else buy unable to recognise their own flaws. I truly believe that while the main reason for having the Highway Code is to prevent accidents and injuries, its second most important purpose is to facilitate traffic *flow* so that people can complete their journey safely and in good time. Backing off almost imperceptibly when approaching a car pulling out of a junction can create the space they need to safely move off' without affecting your journey time or safety, but so many people will try to close the gap because its their "right of way." Its childish and selfish. As for the cyclist thinking vehicles must stop at the give way lines, what can I say. This is not the US. "Give way" means what it says on the tin. It is not a STOP sign. He made very good observations at the junction when he was on the motorbike, but then ignored what those observations told him. It was plainly obvious that, given the time he takes to move forward, he would not be able to safely pull out before the vehicles approaching from the right got there, yet decided to pull into the shared cycle lane and block it. Ashley also points out another trend that's far too common these days: Redacted audio. We're presented with so many clips that for some reason have audio for parts of them yet we never get to hear the whole thing. It just leaves us to conclude that the creator of the video has something to hide, an issue I've had with many road rage clips that cut in or out in such a way as to skew the situation in the cammer's favour. There are a few where I've thought it would be nice to see the preceeding 30 seconds to know what triggered things.

[@0778mike]

“I think I’ve probably lost a subscriber” lmao. I enjoyed this, there is always something to learn from these videos. Love your take on it.

[@Jake-vd8os]

The only channel I’ve seen on KZbin that speaks the truth. 👏🏻

[@andrewnorris5415]

You watch, they will be flagging it soon for missinfo lol. (A joke, I hope!)

[@grahamlive]

Are you sure? There are literally millions of KZbin channels. Are you suggesting that every single one of those that you've seen, apart from Ashley's, is lying? You can't have seen many.

[@pussinboots1145]

Oh dear he's got one of those big chips on his shoulder.

[@Sarge084]

Oh no, he's well balanced, he's got a chip on *both* shoulders!

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

Why are so many cyclists angry? I thought exercise released endorphines or something...

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

@@winstonmohammed3261 There are obviously a lot of bad drivers on the road, but there are also a lot of bad cyclists - a lot of "all the gear, no idea" cyclists, who do dangerous and bewildering things on the road. I say this as someone who used a bike as their primary mode of transport for 25 years, and knocked up plenty of big mileages, so I've got nothing against cyclists, but there are a lot of cyclists who could improve their skills.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

@@winstonmohammed3261 I didn't quote you as saying anything......did I? I was just pointing something out as you'd made an assumption about another commenter who'd asked a perfectly reasonable question.

[@exsandgrounder]

@@michaelsteffensen6844 Much of the time cyclists aren't angry. But when there's moments of conflict between cyclists and other road users, then some will get angry, yet angry reactions aren't restricted to cyclists (you've probably felt annoyance at other road users at times, yes?)

[@LakesGeek]

Some joggers and cyclists seem to have this mindset of "I must go maximum at all times, I cannot slow down or stop for anything" and that's what seems to be on display a lot here. Is it maybe a determination to show that it's possible (if you go flat out under certain circumstances) to go faster than in a car?

[@neddyseagoon9601]

It does appear endemic in many road users in all vehicles, that percieved rights of way means they have no personal responsibility for what happens next. A bicycle or motor vehicle cannot cause a collision if it's left in a garage. Ergo, if it's moving it's wholly or partly both of the the human's responsibility for what happens in a collision. Cyclists seldom come off best regardless of who's at fault.

[@JonathanMartin-df2ee]

The problem with this particular cyclist, and I’m not hating on cyclists as there are plenty of cyclists and car/van drivers who are both guilty of displaying an almost arrogant disregard for other road users then try to blame others for causing a situation that, with some plain old common sense, could and should have already been avoided. People like this particular person really make my blood boil.

[@brionreece4221]

Love your videos surprised you dont have more followers. I bet you are a very patient and good driving instructor

[@chrishartley1210]

It's almost as if this cyclist has a persecution complex and thinks that everyone is out to get him. On the other hand, since we can only guess at the type of phrases used he's probably upset quite a lot of people, so maybe...

[@devononair]

It's hard not to feel that way when you're cycling, because it's either that or everyone is incredibly careless, because cycling on British roads is hell.

[@DEAR7340]

It's a human thing. In the US, we see motorists "punishing" people that linger in the passing lane by tailgating, or whenever they are cutoff. The best I can tell, they want to transfer the irritation to the other motorist because they think it will act as a deterrent. Same with some of these cycling videos; some would rather close the distance to confront a motorist than back off to maintain safety.

[@R0swell5104]

I have ridden a bike many many years and irrespective of highway code and other laws giving you some form of priority, you are still incredibly vulnerable on the road. You just have to have the sense to acknowledge that and get to live another day. I'm not sure if this behaviour by some cyclists is just pure arrogance, stupidly worthy of a Darwin award or both.

[@Eggyk95]

The bike path is awfully designed. In the netherlands, the bike path would be raised, and the driver would have to go over a bump before emerging. Bad road design all round.

[@Ribeirasacra]

totally agree. The road sight lines are not up to standards. If you want to understand more there is a lot of information on line.

[@woutervanr]

Not only that, you would be able to see what was coming from both sides wayyy before arriving at the junction. It's blocked on either side here by greenery, more on the side the cammer comes from than the other side.

[@AgataLib]

@@woutervanr exactly, you could have a stop line there and all the bumps you want, but the driver still would still have to go over those to actually be able to see if anyone is approaching

[@aliray1165]

Agreed. We need more shared pavement sections and cyclists should be licensed and insured to prevent injury to pedestrians.

[@bazzacuda_]

@@aliray1165 Yes, because in 2018 there were 476 pedestrian deaths recorded in places "other than on the road". Only 475 of them involved motor vehicles, the rest was massacred by cyclist.

[@philipbassett5129]

You make a really good point about sharing responsibly to help each other on the roads. We can all make mistakes, hopefully just small ones that aren’t especially dangerous, but which can make another road user, especially cyclists feel they have been “wronged”. Too many cyclists seem to delight in abusing motorists for the tiniest mistake and love having an opportunity to hold them up. The new change in the Highway Code giving cyclists even more priority, is probably going make this even worse. I am a cyclist as well as a motorist, whenever I am cycling, I try to find opportunities to help drivers, by, for example finding somewhere to slow down and make room for them to overtake, or anticipate where they might have more trouble seeing me. As a consequence, it’s rare for me to have situations of conflict with drivers.

[@YourLocalTheriann27]

Well your honesty has just gained a new subscriber i thought you were bang on with everything you said I have been driving for 4 months now but I did cycle everywhere for 15 years so I know the deal on both sides of this story but yes I feel it was very fair and you made really good points.

[@harrislondon]

I feel like that junction would do well for having mirrors fitted either side to increase visibility to both approaches.

[@davidrobinson4118]

Honestly, a cyclist trying to muscle it out with van/truck. He's a drama queen and an idiot who will come a cropper if he continues like this. God knows what he gets up to on his motorcycle.

[@adammcallister2260]

This seems like the kind of person that would rather be right and dead instead of having to concede and stay alive.

[@mrglide7078]

...probably lots of hand gestures, head shaking, rev bombing, and other embarrassing shenanigans that makes us other bikers cringe

[@kougerat5388]

@@mrglide7078 Yep totally agree, I would guess he is fairly young and naive, not to mention highly irritating with his self righteous attitude.

[@jamesdewitt84]

I agree on all the other points but not this one. Why do people support bullys on the road, thats what the truck was doing.

[@saltney17]

@@jamesdewitt84 cry more?

[@thanosp.8140]

"The really good road users fix the mistakes of the poor ones." You are a wise man, dear sir.

[@jackjack2896]

Loved this. Really good video and analysis.

[@TheVanderfulLife]

11:11 if we're being pedantic, the shared cycle lane doesn't start until the sign and tactile paving after the lights...so no one should be cycling on the footpath until you pass that!

[@darren25061965]

Agreed, the shared cycle lane starts AFTER the pedestrian crossing, no doubt to protect pedestrians who need to use the crossing. Clearly designed with this in mind. The cyclist should have dismounted AT THE KERB, pushed his cycle past the crossing (as a pedestrian), before getting back on his cycle.

[@VideoNarstee]

He seeks here, he seeks there, he seeks trouble everywhere

[@Zeyr01]

The cycling Karen

[@derekheeps1244]

A dedicated follower of conflict .

[@robwalker4653]

Absolutely spot on this video. I took my cbt and rode bikes for a few years before learning to drive. I learnt quickly that the safest way to ride a bike is to always be on the lookout for dangers and if you spot any, react to take yourself out of the equation. I see so many videos of cyclists and bike riders trying to shame poor driving by being aggressive and putting themselves in dangerous situations just to prove a point. It's just a recipe for disaster. We all make mistakes.

[@edwardhugus2772]

I live in Pennsylvania, U.S. A. I have no plans of driving in the UK, but for some reason I love your videos. Even if you lose a subscriber, you ARE right to point out what is wrong in his video. Keep up the HONEST evaluations you provide. Most of your subs rivers will appreciate it and keep watching.

[@edwardlamb]

I'd be riding on the road along there to be honest. It's good to see the designers try and give peds/cyclists priority, but with visibility so poor it's asking for trouble/conflict. I don't think design like this confirms to recently updated standards. A good lesson for the chap that's uploaded all of this and good/fair analysis.

[@mrstanhope1516]

Exactly. Would cycle on the road or just go another way. Shared cycle/pedestrian paths rarely work.

[@Speedkam]

Same here. I rarely use bike infrastructure as it creates more collision points and is usually slower.

[@climatechangedoesntbargain9140]

agree, so many less problems

[@Mrhullsie2]

I have to confess in the past I have been a bit of an arsehole with traffic that I have felt impeded my way or I have felt put me at risk. However I am beginning to learn that you can avoid an awful lot of stress if you just slow down, anticipate other road users errors and react to minimise risk. Your channel has been a great help in making me a calmer and safer driver and cyclist.

[@paulcollyer801]

Well done to you. Each person I taught to drive (not an instructor but a professional driver) has been taught that.

[@Charlieb82]

Just think that everyone will either try and cut you up or make some kind or error in each situation and you'll more than likely be ready if they do. Even things like if you're at a junction with a lorry or bus - you know they have a bigger turning circle, so just let them go ahead, use your lane for more width, then overtake them when the road straightens up again (e.g. on dual lane roundabouts).

[@timothydraper6626]

I cycle (plan to take my driving test soon), and this video strikes me as a really fair assessment. I like the point about allowing for other drivers being fallible, and helping things to run smoothly.

[@ciduk]

a fellow driving instructor, completely agree with Ashleys analysis

[@Richard_Barnes]

Hmmm. That give-way is a blindspot. Your bonnet has to be over that give-way line in order to see anyway, so how can you get arsy because a car pokes it’s nose out? If they wanted to make it safer, they should have made it a ‘stop’ sign and not a give-way. I think the cyclist put this together whilst in a bad mood. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thx to the cammer for sharing 👍🏻🙂

[@cogidubnus1953]

Sounds and looks to me like this is a cyclist in a perpetually bad mood...

[@roadrage9191]

Well in the first clip the car started to move after the red car was about to pass him, not checking for cyclists is my guess. Not like the car in first clip did nothing wrong, but an easy mistake to make. The cyclist should not blame poor road design on car drivers which is what he is doing.

[@michaelbolton7563]

The road planners are to blame, they have removed the footway which was 2M wide and made every entrance along the road enter directly into the shared lane where cycles can be travelling faster than the vehicles on the road. When it was a footway pedestrians travel relatively slowly and are visible for much longer, the cars could cross the pavement and wait at the kerb edge for a break in the traffic causing only momentary blocking of the footway. The safety case for the shared cycle/footway would be interesting reading as it is clearly an unsafe construction.

[@michaelbolton7563]

@Lancashirelad But there is still no visibility until the front of the car is virtually blocking the shared lane. The whole shared lane is very poorly designed as there look to be many entrances directly onto it mostly with very poor visibility.

[@E4RLIES]

7:07 makes me really uncomfortable. Weather is poor, bad visibility the last thing you wanna do is force a conflict and leave the car in no mans land with approaching traffic jeez!!

[@mikgold]

As a cyclist I found this very helpful. I hope he can learn and continue to watch. This channel is so good for advancing safe driving/ cycling.

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

Definitely! Me too. I used to be a bit like this (in my early 20s), but now I am older, wiser and have a family to get home to I always let these things go and stay well out of any situations that look dodgy. It is nice to see a balanced view in these videos as anything involving cyclists and drivers is usually so polarised.

[@hochiminhunited1444]

Having enjoyed several of your videos since discovering you yesterday and referring to my lesson-taking son - this one earns a sub, to replace the cyclist. Total respect for your objectivity and principles. The cyclist is clearly angry at drivers generally, to the point of obsession and is out daily looking for trouble, which could end up badly for him and others. I hope your video doesn't make him angrier, but makes him take a painful look at himself and reclaim a bit of rationality before he creates an accident. As that crazy old turtle in Kung Fu Panda says - “One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.” .

[@jasonk7072]

Quite a few of these travellers seem to be treating these slightly unusual junctions as a place to assert yourself. Until the roads are seen as a shared space rather than a combat arena I fear it will always be so.

[@dorianleakey]

Very true.

[@legoseller4496]

Entitlement is a big problem on the roads. I have been a regular culprit myself - I keep a lot of my dashcam clips because they educate me of my prior mistakes (and I don't upload them for the same reason).

[@JamesR-dq6uu]

Consider sending them to Ash anonymously so that more people can learn from your mistakes?

[@legoseller4496]

@@JamesR-dq6uu Good point James, I had wondered about that. Ashley's channel is good because he provides all the necessary analysis and context, but a lot of other compilation clips spare any context or explanation when it's needed. Some also seem to edit the clips in a dubious manner. Difficult to know whether the above is due to the cammer or the YT channel, but I would be wary of people misinterpreting my intentions, even as an anonymous contributor. I hope that makes sense.

[@well1379]

It's OK, I've decided to subscribe after periodically watching your clips. I'm a car driver and a renewed cyclist, after a 20 years gap. Being a driver, undertook a 2 free hours road safety lesson, they are available, and basic rider insurance, also cheaply available. Good to see you providing sensible advice.

[@edwardfitz-gibbon6484]

Excellent education channel. I can see areas I need to improve. Thank you.

[@mrnord1989]

Road Safety is to keep everyone safe, please always remember that. It's up to everyone, who is driving, riding, cycling and walking to keep our roads and sidewalks safe and secure. Please always look out and try to anticipated the mistakes of others, and act in manner to make it safer for everyone. @Ashley thanks for the Video, all of the Videos assisted me in becomming more attentive and a better driver. Keep on doing what you are doing as you doing it well :)

[@supergeekjay]

We're all supposed to work as a team. But sadly humans seem to be against each other, rather than for each other, unfortunately.

[@DevonDashcam]

The cammer who sent these in is so arrogant. Yes, shared space, yes give way lines, but just because you have right of way over emerging traffic doesn’t mean that’s always going to happen. Always expect the unexpected, and frankly at a junction, emerging traffic should not even be unexpected. Physics beats the highway code every time - if you see someone apparently not following the code, don’t put yourself in danger just because you think they should be doing something different 🤪 As for the clip where he crosses the road and onto the cycle/pedestrian area near the crossing, well he put both of the pedestrians in danger and frankly should be charged for dangerous driving in my opinion.

[@apcyberax]

no one has the "right of way". its a shared space. You may have priority but never the right over someone else

[@DevonDashcam]

@@apcyberax I see your point and kind of agree, however the common attitude is all about who “has right of way” so although your comment may be philosophically true, it’s hardly ever how people think.

[@hydorah]

This guy better watch it. He might cross paths with Ronnie Pickering. I hope helmet cam is rolling that day

[@applejuice5272]

Who? 😉

[@stephencopps1561]

It's good to admit that you "stand corrected",every day is a school day! Thanks Ashley👍

[@richardhoneybun5509]

That's why I ride on the road, these pavement lanes are a hazard to all. You have to come forward to see so it's always going to cause problems.

[@Kefford666]

I was told that in the bike shop when I bought my bike. I thought “nah ill be safer on the shared path thingy” and sure enough after a few weeks I started riding on the road instead too. Too many gateways and junctions, I was constantly worried about a car suddenly emerging or diving in in front of me.

[@jakerockznoodles]

Designed properly, as they have been in other countries, they don't have to be. Unfortunately, whatever authorities are in charge for planning these systems in the UK seem to be under the impression that we have x-ray vision or powers of prophecy to know what's coming from behind a hedge or wall before we emerge from the give way markings 😂

[@frankhooper7871]

Likewise for the most part. There are a _few_ near me where I do use the shared path, but most of them I find more dangerous than riding on the road...especially those that just end suddenly with no drop-kerb to enable you to rejoin the roadway. (I'm one of those cyclists who never rides up or down a normal height kerb.)

[@Khaisz.]

God that junction is hell, it's basically a blind corner from all directions, you have to drive out to beable to see if it's okay to drive out.

[@andrewcockburn7484]

Great video showing why I never use this style of cycle lane. There's no visibility for the drivers so they inevitably put their bonnet in your path.

[@elainetucker532]

Very apt title to this video.Have just subscribed.We can all learn a lot here ,very very well put together video.

[@radishpea6615]

At 5:03 onwards there is no sign advising of the cycle lane, perhaps drivers are not understanding the give way markings are for the cycle lane and not the road running across them, hence they do not take enough care going through them. Is there a sign before hand? Has the cyclist approached the council about the junction?

[@RidgwayBrandon]

As a fellow cyclist I'd like to leave some comments on this. Firstly, the junction at the start is very poor design. IMO, it should be a give way for cyclists, with the give way line for cars at the roadside, given it's a blind emerge onto the path thanks to the wall and the hedge. The riders planning here is also poor, he's shown that this is a known problem and actively looks for it. The only car I saw with poor driving at that junction was the blue BMW, every other car gave him space to pass infront; or for the vehicles he filmed from the side, had nothing to give way to. For me, the clip where he stops to see what the white car does shows that he's actively looking for a problem here, the car is no where near him yet he still stops, and as Ash said the driver is clearly looking for anything coming. When he went onto his moped to show how he'd do it, it's interesting that he chose a different junction for his demonstration, perhaps because he knows the original one is a blind emerge and he couldn't make his point. His riding here was also poor, with poor planning and observation, and he blocked the cycle path himself. With the blue car turning right across the path he really should have pre-empted the drivers moves and slowed down and prepare to give way, even though he had priority, the driver likely couldn't see him easily. Onto the roundabout clip, his riding across it was rather poor. He didn't adopt a primary position in the lane on entry, and he then failed to go around the roundabout correctly and 'straight lined' it, with no shoulder checks and no signaling. The blue van was also driven poorly, but once it came alongside he should have freewheeled for a second and let the van ahead. His filtering was also poor, he should have waited behind both the blue van and the silver merc before passing. The clip passed the parked car is easy for me, he saw the door and instead of going round it he decided to make it an issue. There was nothing coming the other way, and even if there was he could have passed safely in his lane. I was also taught when riding to always ride at least a door's width from all parked cars anyway, which if he'd done here there wouldn't have been any issue. Where he turned right, I saw no indication there, and there was no need to be that far over. Especially given the roadworks, he should have been in the offside wheel track until he turned. He also shouldn't have entered the footpath as he did, both because of the pedestrians around and also because it was still a footpath. He should have used the crossing to join the shared use path, or have stayed on the road and joined safely at the next junction. I hope the rider sees this video and can use it to learn from their mistakes. No one is perfect, I know I'm not and I can't think of anyone that is, but admitting your mistakes and learning from them can be a big help. And especially as a vulnerable road user, you need to think for everyone around you, even if you have 'priority' to keep safe, instead of proving points. There's an old saying on two wheels; "assume everyone is an idiot"! If you follow that, you'll likely have a much more positive experience on the roads, and have less issues. Cheers for the great content as ever Ashley, stay safe. -Brandon

[@biglummox9862]

We should have you stuffed and put on display, a cyclist with sense and reasoning.

[@funkohunteruk2847]

I love watching your channel beacuse your unbiased towards favouring bikes or motors, you only criticize those who are in the wrong, great videos 🙌💚

[@AndyPerry1972]

Sometimes it is hard to accept when you are wrong. I might have even been wrong myself sometimes ;-) but yes, I do feel a lot of these are almost to prove a point. I really hope it does make him think. I've only just come across your videos but loving watching them, even back 2 years are popping up, but I am watching them in the hope that I spot something I may do and correct it. I'm getting old now and I would say I have become a lot more cautious when driving. Events do still trigger me at times, but I am one for keeping the peace now lol

[@PumaSpeedster]

Imagine how much of an impact that it would have on a motorist if you flattened a cyclist. It's a two way relationship, we have to protect cyclists but they also have to do there bit to protect yourself. Putting yourself into situations to assert yourself over other road users isn't always a good idea. ESPECIALLY if your on a bicycle. You never know who's behind the wheel. He could have been mushed by that Renault.

[@harryobrien150100]

Cyclist: "he didn't give way to the imaginary bicycle" "if there was a cyclist there there would have been an issue" Car: starts to turn right into his path Cyclist: is hell-bent on trying to ride straight into the car

[@adamrules01]

Some people have no life and too much time on their hands combined with an elevated sense of importance and moral superiority. The guy who sent the clip in is one of them.

[@jaynewton5278]

After watching this video Mr Neal it is definitely going to help me when i start driving lessons. My comment in one of your other videos is its the other drivers that doesn't make me want to drive a car.

[@CarlMCL]

Only reason he is doing this is because he has a camera strapped to his head.

[@NegotiableHemingway]

1 dislike. Wonder who that might be?

[@therainbowgulag.]

This guy's a right prat. I've been cycle commuting for 40 years with very few incidents. My average speed has never changed, 13.5mph which is actually quicker than the traffic. We ALL have to take responsibility for our actions.

[@MrMWhitham]

Very fair judgements. Great deconstruction. I wish more road users had your approach. Thanks

[@tonnysenioranthony4251]

Good observations, and the cammer bullying the pedestrian is a prime example of nirvana fallacy

[@MikeWalls7829]

I cycled for 30 years and to think that you would get into argy bargy with a large vehicle is insane, I do everything possible to avoid them, why? Cos I want to live. If I was on that path and a car came out I'm straight away scanning behind the car to go round the back, there was tonnes of space behind the car, I'd be gone before the car noticed.

[@BWPT.]

It's funny, in all my years of commuting on a push bike the only few incidents I ever found myself involved in were with other cyclists not stopping at a red light on a toucan crossing, one riding off the path onto the road without looking and one trying to barge me off the cycle path for safely overtaking him. Most large vehicle drivers were very considerate.

[@paulcollyer801]

@James Stewart, for some of us, it’s for the better. I use them in my car and my trucks. I work the principal that I need to be on my best behaviour at all times as an RTC can come out of the blue at any time, and the previous minutes may be important. IF (&it’s rare) I feel footage will need acting on, I send it to Police first. Once they’re done, I can’t be arsed lol.

[@Zeyr01]

Some people are just desperate to transition into a half squished tube of toothpaste.

[@The0Meerkat]

As a cyclist I thank you for your veiws on cyclits. My day to day commute to work is on bike. I have many situations where cars don't yeild to me as they should. My biggest gripe with cars is where they overtake only to immediatly turn left causing me to have to slow down. In this situation the car has not saved themselves anytime in overtaking otherwise I would not have needed to slow down for then, That beening said I see far more offences from other cycistss than I do from cars. Mainly running without lights or ignoring stop signals. Personally as a cyclist the only time I run a red light is when it becomes apparent the lights at a particular junction havn't detected me, this usually happens when there is is a filter lane for a right hand tourn and no cycle lane for that turn. traffic lights in this situation do not allways detect bikes. Your opinons on cyyclists seen very fair as far as im concerneed. I even have turn signals on my bike for when im cyling in the dark or where it would be impracible to hold out my hand. I really don't understnad why this is not a requirement for bikes. Bike turn signals are expensive at them moment but if they were a requirement it wouldn't take long for them to come down in price.

[@stephenmanchester3805]

I love how ashley tells it as it is

[@DJ-Daz]

As a cyclist who rides thousands of miles per year I know damn well how frustrating life can be around other road users. But we do SHARE the road and not own it. There are times to be legitimately annoyed, and times when you annoy others, knowing the difference is the key. The vast majority of road users will pass a cyclist with respect, those who don't, they don't care about anyone else and you can't help these people, you just need to be aware of them. Listen to your spidey senses. Be safe.

[@jasonarthurs3885]

Agreed. I'm about to surpass 27 000 kms on my bike; I've seen it all. Even a bear! Communicate with motorists by signalling every intent. And don't be afraid to command the lane when necessary. Majority of drivers are respectful and courteous, if you are the same.

[@maff1975]

I’m a new subscriber and these videos are great. I recognise a lot of my own behaviour. I think a lot of us think we’re better drivers than we are.

[@paulcollyer801]

I Know I’m a better driver than most, because of a) my experience, b) regular assessments at work) c) I’m critical of my own approach to any incidents as well as that of others, & most importantly d) I STILL make mistakes after 50yrs of road use, be that an error of judgement, misreading signs/lights etc. Nobody is perfect. Be self critical and analyse your mistakes, work out how not to make them again & Try to make that correction habit.

[@hikaru9624]

Catching up on your fantastic content. Never have I seen shared paths (at the very least not recently) and I find the layout of them rather interesting. From what I could see the markings for the junctions were a little far back which would force road users to creep in order to see what was going on. Said junctions also looked rather closed, again meaning that in order to pull out as safe as possible they'd have to creep. Maybe a mirror across the road could have helped here but I don't know, I don't work for the council down there let alone up here.

[@tonerusson5656]

honestly Ashley, you did an awesome job (again). of explaining things 100% correctly. I am always impressed with how concise you are with your explanations and also how you make it easy for anyone with any level of knowledge to understand. With the new rule changes in the highway code pertaining to cyclists and pedestrians as you say, I can understand how some, (not all) are doing their best to push this harder in favour of their preferred method of transport. i believed these rule changes were there to save lives not allow the Karens of the country to find new ways to intimidate others. We know that nothing is perfect and familiarity with your local area would go a long way to easing your commute or pleasure driving. But, this seems to me like an assault on areas that for some reason have a lack of planning by your cammer. Please dont take this the wrong way, your cammer has legitimate concerns but hes local council set out some of their road markings without properly giving both sides of the conversation a chance. The only option is for both parties to be more careful about their approach to these situations and, make their local council aware of the chance of possible problems in these areas. Also, and Im not sorry about this, no indication when turning and pulling onto a pedestrian walk way... Thats just reckless and by hes own footage he should be prosecuted to the same extent of the law that a car driver would be in that situation. He seems very empowered to point out others mistakes and failings yet is very lax at showing he even cares if he causes some of hes own problems. No one is perfect, thats why we should all look out for each other. Sorry that rambled on a bit. You keep up your great work. Its making our roads a safer place to be. Thanks.

[@utubecharon]

hi Ashley, Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos, delivered in such a calm and authoritative manner. It goes a long way to helping me as a driver of 35+ years maintain safe and defensive driving. I tell my daughter, who has recently passed her test, that if she assumes that everyone on the road is out to get her, she won't go far wrong!

[@TheSebiestor]

As a driver of 35 years still requiring help/advice/instruction, is very worrying, my advice to you is start using public transportation

[@utubecharon]

@@TheSebiestor Perhaps my point is more about learning every day to become better, and not just assuming that once I have passed my test, I know everything. There is always more to learn in every area of life. I suggest you try it.

[@markplenty2631]

I enjoy your videos and they have made me a better driver! 👍

[@andywright160]

Passed my test first time a week ago older guy 38 for just passing it pays too be defensive at times because there are some absolute idiots on the road love your videos you helped me alot leading up too my test great content don't get enough credit bud

[@nigelcox1451]

Comparing Google Streetview with the vid shows some changes. The junction used to be normal, with kerb edges, and a Give Way line at the edge of the main road. Locals who use it regularly will take a very long time to adjust to the Give Way line being moved back, to a position of poor visibility. The road authority have removed the kerb edges, giving pedestrians and cyclists priority, which will confuse drivers a little. Everyone needs to take care to protect each other. (There's an idea, it'll never fly.) I wonder if there are signs to tell drivers that priorities have changed. When the cammer gets onto his motorcycle, he does not appear to use the same road. In all his bicycle vids, the emerging traffic is in a single lane, narrowed out of a one-way street. (Tudor Road, Broadstone, Bournemouth) On his motorcycle, he is emerging from a normal two-way road, perhaps that's why visibility seems better than we expected. Edit: He's actually at Lower Golf Links Road, some distance along Dunyeats Road, where the Give Way line has been similarly moved back. Why show a different road?

[@SammyInnit]

To these people everything will always be objective and they'll always have something to moan about.

[@jamesstewart7736]

I think your videos are good for thought and as a mature person I will take on board some of your comments and follow your advice as you’re right. It’s better to drive in a way that makes all situations as safe as possible. 👍🏻

[@Joe.O.]

You've gained a subscriber, so if that one has a hissy fit it doesn't matter. Thanks for the videos, some great stuff In them.

[@neilholmes8200]

My first thought on those early clips is that the cars have to pass the give way line at some point just to see if there's any bikes coming, let alone tell if they can turn onto the road itself

[@neilwilliams3298]

Surely if they can't see they should be stopping then.

[@neilholmes8200]

@@neilwilliams3298 a bit of caution from all parties in a situation like that would be best I'd say. Personally, looking at the junction I'd be slowing to almost a stop and prepared to stop if needed. But neither some of those drivers nor the cyclist seemed to be using sensible, cautious approach

[@neilwilliams3298]

@@neilholmes8200 oh I know, always best to treat it as if everyone wants to kill you. Personally if be using the road rather than that path. It's an accident waiting to happen.

[@gerardmcmanus]

Ok so I'll add a few points: There is no solid line or stop sign so a rolling emerge is fine, but given the hedge and wall obstructing the view, that fact that there is a cycle lane, the drivers should be emerging a fair bit more carefully there. Two, doing that emerge on a motor cycle is not the same, as driving a car. You view is far better than a car driver would have is that situation. If you were in a car, you couldn't assess if it was safe to proceed if you stopped completely before the give way, you would have to creep out.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Sound analysis. We all live and learn. I am a cyclist, motorist and pedestrian. This is all useful learning. Thanks to the contributor also.

[@margueriteburton]

My youngest is a professional cyclist and I am sure he would agree with Ashley!!! Poor road users are the problem - always. I do make mistakes and I do try hard not to but using a running commentary out loud does aid concentration and focus on the dangerous road users and help the avoidance of others mistakes. The fun I get out of this is the looks on people's faces when I have allowed space and time for them before they've realised what they are doing!