AGI Lecture: The Dragon and The Eagle - Must the World Choose?

In this lecture, a delegation from the Harvard Kennedy School (HKS) joined Eric Li from Chengwei Capital, as well as Dr Brian Wong from the Department of Philosophy, HKU, to discuss the political and economic climate between China and the US.
Karen Dynan, Professor of the Practice of Public Policy from HKS, initiated the discussion by outlining the primary economic challenges the world faces, such as high debt ratios and consistently high interest rates. She argued that these factors could hinder growth, limit governments' ability to address issues like climate change, and prevent lower-income countries from benefiting from technology, ultimately worsening income inequality.
Eric shared his perspectives on China's transition in industrial policy, stating that the country is experiencing a necessary but painful shift to move higher up in the global value chain. However, he acknowledged that this transition is causing uncertainty, and the direction remains unclear to many. Anthony Saich, Daewoo Professor of International Affairs from HKS, concurred with Li about the ambiguity surrounding China's economic transition. He further observed that China's political system has become more top-down and centralized in recent years, which also affects economic decision-making.
Edward Cunningham, Director of Ash Center China Programs and of the Asia Energy and Sustainability Initiative, HKS, offered a more optimistic view, emphasizing the potential for cooperation between the US and China in new energy and sustainability sectors. Lastly, Dr Brian Wong addressed Hong Kong's role in the turbulent international geopolitical climate, suggesting that the city should leverage its unique status as a bridge between the US and China.

[@wilmeramadoraguilar47]

I'm here to listen to mr Eric Li

[@aiugrouparchitectureandcon7652]

The difference between a talker and a doer, eric has real job apart from talking, thus his wording and language is emphatic and strong. Love it.

[@kathri1006]

Dr Brian Wong is the citizen, enlightened, out spoken, unapologetic, wants to be part of the story, I admire. He knows who he is and hope he will infect others with his enthusiasm.

[@ankHank-fs1zr]

Great intellectual!

[@riceballlegend7757]

Eric Li and Brian Wong are refreshing.👏

[@ankHank-fs1zr]

+1

[@aslampervez2294]

thanks Erick

[@SiphiweSithole-gs8ns]

I heard lessoned to Mr Li before his arguements are always good and like lessoning to him

[@TheVafa95]

He didn't give any evidence of the market being like a puppy, needs to be trained. Did he?

[@lucyng-pellicioli916]

@@TheVafa95 Look no further than Singapore's development since the 1970s.

[@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984]

I'm only here for Eric Li.

[@bartonlee3594]

Me too. The rest is stupid Ph.D.'s from the West.

[@thomasrogers9146]

Asking the world to choose is childish and immature. The world is big enough for different political and economic system.

[@ouchh35]

Eric Li's comments: 23:30 - Initial answer 44:59 Eric answering another Panelist's question 1:21:30 - final comment

[@ouchh35]

1:30:19 short answer about US/China

[@lsh4406]

Brave 🎉to Eric Li! 👍👍😅

[@stephenyang2844]

I nominate Brian Wong the un-official spokesman of HongKong!

[@DailyGPT365]

Eric Li IQ is over 200

[@ankHank-fs1zr]

I would love to see more of Dr. Brian Wong to share his perspectives on global and China issues in similar forums, and as always, Dr. Eric Li too. Saich was fair. Pretty good moderation throughout, credit to Prof. Tang. Both Cunningham and Dynan looked a bit tired over their busy schedules.

[@kshen7485]

Since 1949, even way back before Xi’s administration, Chinese has been the centralized government or centralized system. Otherwise, there would be no such a great achievement as right now in China.

[@kalipotmeng]

I'm an absolute fan of Eric Li's. But chairman Xi put it even more nicely, "modernisation is not westernization". The Westen Interpretation of this, à la Kevin Rudd, is Xi's Marxism and Leninism (he speaks good Chinese, but has no insights). In contrast, Eric's interpretation is that the West achieved modernization not through the modern western values, but through e.g. colonialism. And china needs to chart its own way. 👍

[@TheVafa95]

All nations of the global community must feel secure. For all to feel secure, world needs to invent new global institutions. Otherwise frictions and tensions will increase, untill...

[@micsp1]

to that Hongkonger, Hongkong got its position today only because China used to be a closed country and need Hongkong as a port to connect the world, now China is open, the importance of Hongkong will be lower and lower, so there's nothing pround being a Hongkonger, without mainland China you're nothing. again to that Hongkonger, 1 country 2 system is about the ownership of basic resources of a country, in mainland China the ownership is in the state where in Hongkong the ownership is in the hands of private sectors, it's not about what you can say in Hongkong what you cannot say in mainland, btw, if what you say is true you can say it in mainland too, stop smearing mainland, mainland don't need to copy what you learned from the West, today's Western world is pure garbage in free speech, also the 1989 Tiananmen square incident had been painted as a typical anti China anti CCP material with lies, when you find yourself sharing the same view as the US govt, you know you've been brainwashed, it's the US who's behind almost every crisis on this planet, not China.

[@kshen7485]

I know Brian since long from KZbin, he is just a colonial brainwashed.

[@Raytracer96024]

Dragon 🇨🇳 and the Bear 🇷🇺

[@dunzhen]

Wow learning a lot

[@wahmei88]

"共享繁榮"+"居者有其屋"!

[@thinhare]

The man number 2 from the left really got me sleepy, the words, like politician talk, vague, empty, but in volume, damn. Boring.

[@TheVafa95]

He is widenning the perspective by talking about Vietnam and Indonesia.

[@TheVafa95]

All nations of the global community must feel secure, for all to feel secure, world needs to invent new global institutions. Otherwise frictions and tensions will increase, untill...

[@brockabaddy985]

Totally agree; a bore.

[@kshen7485]

Brian did the same, totally political crying.

[@wahmei88]

"共享繁榮"+"居者有其屋","豐衣足食"! No need to have Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water Mansion nor Trump's Trump Manhattan Building!

[@bartonlee3594]

So happy that Dr. Lee stopped being a "venture capitalist" and instead became a "venture socialist with Chinese characteristics." He understand that The People are suffering and that a return to communist ideals as exemplified by President Xi is imperative to alleviate our stagnation.

[@PirateSpaceCat]

🐉🐉🐉🐉

[@GIZMO3380]

😂😂😂 In future, make Brian speak last 5 mins b4 closing cos he will not stop.😂😂😂 Obviously, future Hongkong politician. 😅

[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@kshen7485]

I’m here mainly to get Eric’s cleverness, hate to see that UK colonial trainee, Brian Wong. Please not again!

[@kshen7485]

Brian Wong was totally excluded from the topic. He seems from the UK colonial era.

[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@ronreece8437]

I got a kick out of the comment that China doesn't need a Constitution like the one possessed by the US. Which means China doesn't need an underlying Rule of Law either, right? Just have arbitrary legal judgements based upon "dynamic" interpretations of legal contracts based upon shifting power struggles. Granted, the US is showing similar moves towards arbitrary selective enforcement of the law with administration in the White House. But ultimately, if human and legal rights are "bestowed/revoked" based upon whoever happens to be in power, and therefore, are not unalienable, exactly for who does modernization benefit? A higher quality of economic life is meaningless without personal liberties. It's just a fancier form of political serfdom.

[@albertwong1919]

Strawman argument... that is your own interpretation skew to prove your point seriously dont be an idiot and pigeon hole yourself and not understand what exactly the comment was driving at....

[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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[@marciamarquene5753]

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