ASUS ROG Destrier Chair vs Herman Miller vs Steelcase vs Haworth vs Secretlab | ULTIMATE COMPARISON

[@Ahnestly]

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[@danielekirylo]

Thanks for helping me with my purchase. Cool you are covering the Destrier, I was looking at this chair but never found good in depth review of it

[@Ahnestly]

Thank you!!!!

[@straysheep5312]

I wish I had the money to buy this Asus chair. It honestly sounds like something that will change my experience in front of my gaming computer. Right now, I have a Corsair T3 Rush Gaming chair. I got it because I liked the material but didn't realize that the sides of the seat would be hard/bulky. I thought it was going to be soft. I'll continue to use this chair until I wear it out completely.

[@hessammehdizadeh3239]

Thank you! I just watched your first Asus review video yesterday and received my replies today :-)

[@Ahnestly]

Thank you!!! Really appreciate your support!

[@desultadox5900]

We need a “Phenomenal” vs “Gets Crushed” ranking list from you in all these different categories

[@eco999]

Got the ROG, testing it for few days now. It's a keeper. Coming from Vertagear Triigger 350 SE. The big portion of the back of the chair and armrests on the sides are truly aluminum coted in gunmetal paint. It is light and looks sick. Also that mesh on the back depending on the light has this nice subtle silver glow. It is really breathable and soft to the touch. Armrests and lumbar adjustment range is simply great. As mentioned they move too easily horizontally though. Same goes for the headrest, moves vertically too easily but it is a minor annoyance if anything. Bottom seat is wide and nice but not comfy, it is on the harder side. You can however seat on it in many different ways without feeling any hard edges. Chair goes properly low and moves smoothly on the floor. For the price (850$ in EU) you get a lot and it is hard to beat. I removed this acoustic panel and it is perfectly ok without it. Still looking nice.

[@jiffjifferson5365]

please update on comfort after a using it for a bit.

[@BrawndoQC]

Hey simiular to me I had that Triigger but switched to a Charriot, which was not a big mistake but I lost ergos a bit so went to the Destrier and although not perfect, very satisfied so far.

[@crm484]

Still satisfied? It is impossible to get some proper ergo chairs in EU, and this is on sale right now. So your opinion would be great😃

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

in uk actually asus up this to 3 years warranty. looks like they are listening to the feedback.

[@Prabhu_njd]

@Ahnestly I ​just bought the herman miller embody gaming chair in graphite with the atlas headrest at my local retailer Xtra will be delivered in 2 days. Got it on the 9.9 Sale here in singapore. They included a free herman miller Flo monitor arm too.. Can't wait to use the chair. I've been using one of my dining chair at home for months and my back is really banged up. I've been a sub on your channel for more than a year and i finally decided to get this embody based on mostly your reccomendation. Thanks Dan ❤❤❤.

[@Ahnestly]

woot woot! Hope you love it!!!

[@Prabhu_njd]

@@Ahnestly i sure as hell will love it. Just trying it at the store felt great. All tganks to you buddy. Cheers.

[@brokenSnake]

@@Prabhu_njdit’s actually an overpriced garbage chair

[@sorvex9]

I just got a new batch of the destrier and it seems they have fixed all issues in this video. 1) THe strap with tilt now look correctly, i can send a picture if needed. 2) The armrest does not move forward and back easily and the left to right turning of arm rest now has locks in certain positions 3) The headrest takes a lot more force for it to move now and in general I have to kinda press back on it for it to happen. That is good enough for me. I have a big and heavy head for reference :) 4) with a discount and asus cashback I got the chair for 500 dollars, I dont' think any chair for 500 USD will provide the quality this one does, not even the no-brand ergonomic ones. In Denmark I coudl buy 4 destriers for the price of 1 emobdy with an atlas headrest. There is no way an embody is even close to 4 times the value, even accounting for warranty etc. I am 176 cm tall and weigh 80kg if that matters,

[@mikewu3103]

good try asus employee

[@sorvex9]

@@mikewu3103 not rly, just stating what happened with my chair and why i bought it. I wouldn't pay 900 USD btw, but for 500 it is good value. I'd rather buy this chair + a hypercube + an aircondotiion + 3d printer + 2x homepods than a fkn overpriced hermann miller. And that is exactly what i did

[@crm484]

Stadig glad for den? Står til 5000 lige nu og overvejer den. Kan få en brugt Herman miller til samme pris med 5 års garanti. Men denne frister stadig. Og hele kontorstole markedet er bundkorrupt har jeg erfaret, for satan der bliver lavet penge, i det marked med kartel aftaler. Ingen konkurrence, alt koster bare😂

[@crm484]

Stadig glad for købet? Overvejer kraftigt denne eller en Aeron. Markedet for ergonomiske stole er alt for dyrt og uden ordentlig konkurrence😀

[@sorvex9]

@@crm484 KZbin fjerner desværre mit svar.

[@AresWasTaken]

Idea chair is something like, seat pan of the SC karman with depth adjustments like the gesture (the side mounted knob is very convenient), the arms of the gesture, the back of the fern, and an atlas headrest.

[@joerama]

Thanks!

[@Ahnestly]

No, thank yoyu!!!!

[@Drahko12]

I tested and returned the Amia due to the backrest feeling too hot to me. I'm deciding now between the Haworth Fern or Zody. Seeing this chair from Asus the main drawback is the warranty, for that price is crazy the warranty is only 2 years versus the competition, like come on at least 5-6 years should be the norm. I can't guarantee the customer service since the debacle on their motherboard reported on tech channels like gamers nexus. which leaves questionable customer service practices. Overall I rather go with the proven companies, Steelcase gets my thumbs up, they refunded the return after testing the chair and that left me wanting to one day buy from them another a chair or recommend them to other people. Is great when companies offer such a good service that even if you don't end up buying from them you felt treated so well you recommend them to another potential buyer. If only the Amia did not feel hot :( it was without doubt the most comfortable chair I tried.

[@Ahnestly]

Aw man sorry to hear the Amia didn't work out, but I know what you mean about the back getting hot. If warranty + customer service is of concern, go with Haworth man. Zody if you want a real mesh back, but I love my Ferns - Digital Knit is softer and cushier, but gonna be a bit warmer. Go with the regular back Fern and they have a great return policy as well, so no need to worry! Just do me (and your wallet) a favor and wait til September 1...and follow my community page ;-) you'll see why there!

[@Drahko12]

@@Ahnestly oh if a sale is coming I will definitely wait. Thanks for the heads up 😄

[@Kmmc2011]

I was really considering the Asus after the first review & had found 1 in stock in my city. But it would be a blind buy with no return option. This review really helped.. As amazing as the lumbar sounds, the arms moving about, the lack of bottom cushion, and the fact that I do like to cross my hands behind my head when I lean back, helped me realised this is likely not the chair for me. I'll likely get the TRULY chair as it was pretty comfy

[@Kmmc2011]

Followup: I managed to test the Asus Destrier today. It's definitely comfortable mesh. Loved the lumbar. But the arms moved wayyyy too easily. And definitely moved every time I leaned on it to adjust my seating position. Unfortunately that's pretty much a deal breaker for me.

[@dewmguy]

I enjoyed the video. I am currently using a Steelcase Gesture and feeling like it's uncomfortable for the amount of money it cost. I've also been sitting in it for about two years. Looking to buy something new and I had no idea that the ASUS chair existed until I saw this video. It's compelling but I'm also a little torn between that and the SecretLab Titan. I was hoping that your video would cover all of the same points and features for every chair you talked about so that even though you're comparing each chair to the ASUS, we could glean enough information to compare the chairs to one another. Unfortunately, I feel like the video isn't helping me decide if the chair I already have is better or worse than any of these chairs.

[@Magnisus]

I am trying to decide between Destrier and Gesture. I tried Destrier and its really good chair but I am to try Gesture in a few days so that will make my decition. I am also all about the warranty. If I am to give that much money, everything below 5 years is a ripoff.

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

I got Asus ROG chair 2 days ago and it has 3 issues. 1. Head cushion cannot be locked so everytime you place head and move little down or up is switching instead of being locked in a place. 2. Same with the arm rest. If you hold and move chair on both will move as well. 3. The lower back "cushion" (whatever you call it) you can set how you want is making your lower back sweaty for a longer period of time. Oh and 4th, the below of your "bottom" won't last long because it's really skinny and easily damagable. So about 2-3 years will start peeling off the corner on your left then you'll be left with sitting on a plastic below it. Plus everything is plastic and it's Made in China.

[@Volker_A4]

the cushion is the lumbar support

[@eco999]

Agree on 1 and 2 but 3 hardly makes any sense and 4 is just speculations and doesn't make any sense either. Damageable on your left? What? Like no offence but if you sweat on this chair just because of the lumbar cushion then you must be drowning in sweat on any non-mesh chair.

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

@@eco999 It ain't "speculation". It's how chairs last. I had previous office chairs and all of them wore off. My previous Corsair T1 Game Chair started to peel off and couldn't raise up nor down anymore. It wore off after 3 years. Everytime i got up i had it all over the floor. Previous chair as well, but difference is the sponge went flat. You didn't understand me clearly because you have problem with comprehension. Lumbar cushion isn't provided to have breathing like having holes on it. Just like on chair. It's like wearing the parka jacket but after a while gets sweaty (in about 15-30 minutes). I have air conditioner turned on with all doors closed, even then i sweat after a while when i'm laying on it (laying my back fully while typing or playing a videogame). Reminds me when i had leather office chair (my 1st chair) and that chair made me sweat everywhere during summer (except on arms). As on left part on corner it's gonna be damaged after a while because just like a wooden bridge it doesn't last long. This is made in China, their products don't last longer than American products. Which is why it's known for all items, including TV's, don't last long.

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

@@eco999 Btw before you mention anything, i sweat only on lumbar cushion. It doesn't have holes. It's just like parka jacket on your lower back.

[@Just_a_commenter]

Been curious to see how the ROG offering compares to others... Especially compared to my Aeron. Credit where it's due - the Destrier is pretty cool looking, but is it more comfy...

[@Ahnestly]

Depends on what comfort means for you. If it means sitting more rigidly, then the Aeron is not a bad choice. Slightly looser mesh feels nice on the booty, but you lost out on a lot of movement. If you want freedom of movement in your chair and you're ok maybe taking a walk for a bit once in a while bc of the firmer mesh, the Destrier isn't a bad choice for half the price.

[@GuitarRequiem]

If you live in Mexico or if you live near the US border to Mexico, they're selling them here for less than $600 in some stores. I got mine a few weeks ago for around $530 at Cyberpuerta (they don't have stock right now though)

[@ianr2002]

I just bought mine from Dimercomm for about 520 plus shipping, really looking forward to test it out

[@E2_Hawkeye]

Embody with Atlas Headrest is freaking incredible!!! Thanks to your channel I found Atlas so many thanks!

[@Ahnestly]

Glad you love it!!!!

[@informedchoice2249]

But very expensive.

[@E2_Hawkeye]

@@informedchoice2249that’s true but as an office worker I’ve got to prioritize my chair over almost everything else. Never cheap out on things between you and the ground or something like that lol.

[@informedchoice2249]

@@E2_Hawkeye Well exactly. I went for a cheaper option and it's not bad but not great. It's also my music prod chair and gaming chair so it's a good investment.

[@grumby111]

I know that these comparisons were completed months ago, but I did find a brand new Asus Rog Destrier for $499.99. That's the best bang for your buck right there. I'll worry about a high end chair at a later point.

[@sngcelebi7040]

One thing to consider for those buying in Europe is that both Haworth and Steelcase here offer a significantly shorter warranty (2 years and 5 years respectively). Only Herman-Miller offers 12 years even in Europe, and wanting a headrest I guess my only choice would be Vantuum, which I feel is not exactly the best of their products. I don't know, buying from Amazon honestly I might end up opting for this Destrier. Eliminating the warranty issues, there is not much on this price range. May I ask if you have an amazon referal that works in Europe? I have to decide between the Gesture and this Destrier, but both I think I would get from Amazon.

[@Ahnestly]

Damn thank you so much for asking about that! The Amazon link I have in the description will take you to the closest matching result in your local region. If it's not there, not sure if it's on Amazon :-\ Keep in mind that the Embody does have a headrest, but not made by HM. It's the best headrest in the world, as I noted in the video!

[@sngcelebi7040]

@@Ahnestly Yes, the Embody would probably be the best choice but at least in my country only the Gaming version is available, and adding to that the cost of the Atlas headrest would cost me twice as much as Gesture and Destrier... let's just say that without having a chance to try it out I'm a bit dubious about getting it. I had a chance to try the Aeron and the Mirra2, and I liked both of them very much. Maybe the Aeron seemed to me a tad too aggressive as a lumbar support, but I would have taken it if it didn't cost so much here (2000€ + the price of the Atlas). In any case I will evaluate this one too :), thanks for the assistance! Your link actually takes me to an Amazon page where there are several chairs, including the Destrier. But not to the Destrier directly, so I wasn't sure it worked for that ahah.

[@tillneumann3293]

The warranty of Steelcase in Germany is 12 Years for the Gesture and some other chairs. Its not that easy as in US maybe with the warranty. Here you have to really read the paper to see which part(s) or complete chairs got 12/5 or 3 Year warranty. The same goes for Haworth. Most parts got a 12 Year warranty but you really have to read the paper before buying it. Just Herman Miller gives us 12 Years for everything.

[@TheSydguy30]

@@tillneumann3293 That's the same as Australia as well. 12 years printed but in the fine print has the interval break down to the components which varies. Herman Miller has it on everything.

[@HeavenSevenWorld]

Suddenly, I'm convinced to give a try Kaiser 3 - the saddle looks much softer than the Secret Lab Titan Evo

[@informedchoice2249]

A conclusion on it's overall positioning in the range would be good.

[@r4zn.]

Chair looks almost perfect. Except, for that gaudy Asus logo on the headrest.

[@elle8062]

Haworth Fern Looks Nice

[@Ahnestly]

It is! My #2 pick!

[@KN-jw5vu]

Actually, the Asus’s chair is work with the Backbone as a well known mesh chair brand in Taiwan.So I think whether the quality and price can be compared with other “luxury “ brands like HM , Steelcase.

[@DecortiqueHome]

@Ahnestly can u make a Video about the Backforce One Plus (from Interstuhl). It is simply a gaming chair with office chair ergonomics. I would be really happy if u make an review on that chair.

[@markj9027]

No chairs from Knoll? Thinking Generation & Regeneration. Want a head rest? Probably best sleeper chair would be 9to5 Seating Strata model with multiple mechanisms; mesh or cushion seating; multiple arms etc...

[@Ahnestly]

Man...Knoll shows me no love, and I'm in PA!!!! I reached out multiple times to try and work with them and get ignored haha. I'll get around to their stuff someday...but I'm doing back to back $1,000+ videos!

[@anooymous84]

got mine delivered last week, imo its an upgrade compared to my older chair egotune supreme

[@jlee5990]

Your review is so good that I'm thinking of buying this product, and it's currently on sale. I just have one question. I'm 171 cm tall, and I'd like to know the height from the ground to the seat when the chair is set to its lowest position. Is it over 40 cm, and approximately how many cm is it? I'm really curious to know.

[@igrvks]

If there was a stealth model without such visible branding I would order one right away.

[@mmmhmmmm]

based on warranty alone, you know the $1k+ chairs are much better deals with premium materials that just won't break easily.

[@dergibog27]

Hey man! Have you ever done a review on or know of any decenr armrest pads? For those damn dirty chairs that don't have enough cushion.

[@robertratkajec8899]

Very nice comparison BUT the only chair which you did not compare it to and you really should have is Ergohuman 2. I believe Ergohuman 2 is peer-to-peer chair with Destrier and if you have a chance I would like to see a comparison of the 2.

[@legendkms]

Can you look into the RFM Verte. I just found out about this chair. You think this is on the same tier?

[@Praetoreon]

Yep, I definitely get high AF and fall asleep in my chair. Titan EVO it is! Thanks bro!

[@Ahnestly]

Lol! Please consider using my link! Helps the channel a lot!

[@waffleiron7740]

I really wanted to like my destrier... and I tried hard to for almost 2 weeks, but I'm boxing it up today to return it. It just... isn't comfortable for me, despite being mesh it feels really quite hard to sit on, the headrest movement is annoying & isn't in a comfortable position for me in any point (6 feet 0 inches tall) - the armrests moving anytime you do is frustrating and seems like such a simple design flaw to spot if anyone had ever sat on it, but I could've dealt with those 2 things if it were just comfortable for me at its core - but I guess its dependent on what you like, I imagine its similar to the Embody which I haven't tried for reference, in that it "forces" you into a position, and that's your position - its like a car bucket seat, there is little budge in what your seating position can be.

[@Amped1]

I already bought the Herman miller like a year ago. I actually got it because of one of your videos I watched. Also, the atlas headrest came in recently after waiting like a year as well, also recommended by you. Gotta tell ya it was not worth it. I'm not selling or anything because I just don't feel like it...However, I would definitely not recommend anything over 1k and it better have a damn headrest for that. So definitely keep giving chairs like this Asus one attention. The prices on the others are getting to the point I would be embarrassed to tell someone what I paid for a chair...

[@Ahnestly]

oh man! why didn't you like the Embody headrest!?!?!?! I've responded to a lot of people complaining about movement, but they didn't realize they could tighten down the headrest using the included Alan key! Does that have anything to do with it?

[@Bcanan1029]

I may have ADHD hyperfocused on the Asus chair and used overclockers uk to import it wnd it will be here Monday

[@Zyontan]

Hi, curious why the duorest chair is not showcase part of your chair list? Is it due to the bad ergonomic or reputation?

[@SpregioCheeks]

I thought I was going crazy when I leaned back I felt my coccyx moving lol. If I could just adjust the arms on a horizontal plane, the arm rests would be perfect, minus the non locking forward backward slide but I got use to that quick.

[@christiantalledo1886]

Should i buy the destrier or embody? I fear that the squeaking sound of the embody would disturb me.

[@Ahnestly]

Some people reported their Destrier's squeaking as well! The Embody is still my #1 pick - with the headrest, it's the king. If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a lot!

[@DrEtzor]

Destrier has me interested but if there was a warranty issue they'd probably tell me they're going to send it back in pieces due to liquid damage and liquid metal having leaked out of it. How? i don't know, it just sounds very Asus of them. Oh ya and they'd quote me $3795 canadian dollars to fix a tiny scuff on one of the caster wheels even though i'm not in Canada and the chair costs 900.

[@DRAXGAMING]

Haworth's international webshop for EU customers etc is absolutely terrible for customer service, and the warranty is a knocked down version as well. The shipping time is also much longer than stated... a terrible experience. Could buy the Destrier chair and have it shipped in 3 days or less from loads of companies in the UK.

[@TheSydguy30]

lol I agree. Australia here and I went there and there is a configuration of the chair just in numbers not really saying anything what is what and the picture changes based on your selection and trying to gauge it off that..... I gave up and thought wtf is this. Whoever designed that needs to be fired.

[@furkanyldrm9629]

Can someone tell me how many CM (from the ground) is the Armrest Height (set to the lowest)? I wonder if it will fit under my desk.

[@Stureplan89]

Got mine yesterday and I love mine. Love the lumbar support but do not like the loose handlebars (which I got used to after 24h anyways so its no big problem really). Now its time to find out it will stand the pressure of office/gaming chair and how long it will last.

[@BrawndoQC]

Same

[@haakon1302]

Is it possible to remove the arm rests?

[@raphaelsteffen690]

​@@haakon1302yes, completly as they are attached with 6 screws

[@licho98Mactavish]

1 year later did it hold up? Do you recommend?

[@Stureplan89]

@@licho98Mactavish ye, still holds up but if it was today i would get a Herman Miller so I can adjust height more cuz im quite tall (186cm). But its a good chair and still holding up fine. My tip is to try chairs irl with good posture/positioning while trying.

[@Fattr01]

i would love if you could put in the Hinomi X1 in one of your reviews and comparisons. I am here considering the ASUS ROG Destrier or Hinomi X1 as one of my main picks. their price is at the upper end of my price range. but it is not easy to compare the 2 by what information is out there. I have need of a good lumbar support as my back always have pain. however i also want a comfy chair for leaning back enjoying a good movie without having pain. currently i am using the AkRacing ProXseries chair. and even tho it is among one of the best chairs i have ever used. I still feel it is quite horrible. I would really prefer to find the top chair for me in first try and be happy with it for a lot of years to come. I am like 190 pounds 6,3 feet. / 87 kg 191 cm Any advice or knowledge / insight in this is very valued. thank you!

[@TheSydguy30]

$200 more for 10 years more warranty, says it right there which one to get lol A company that doesn't put a good warranty in their own product hasn't got faith in it to last. I have one question though, the Aeron was the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in for my back, nothing supported my lumbar and my mid back like it. The issue was scooted all the way back into the chair when sitting the mesh would give (obviously when you sit down) and my butt near my tailbone I would feel the hard plastic under the mesh at the back. Is there a solution for this? Going down to a size B fixed this but then I was sitting on the sides of the frame, so it was too small. Size C was perfect (I'm smack bang on 6 foot or a smidge over depending who measures me) and love this chair way more than the Embody (which I tried the gaming and normal variant where the gaming one easily won but still gave me lower back pain) but was no where near as comfortable as the Aeron was besides this one factor which stopped me buying the chair. Would LOVE to know if there is a work around as I'm desperate due to back pain (which it elevated but sitting in it gave me butt pain due to hitting the plastic underneath the mesh as mentioned above)

[@Alpha.Horizon]

Any chance you can test the RH New Logic 220 or the older RH Logic 400? It seems to be the most complete chair out there, with tons of adjustments and hight quality. I'm looking for a chair that allows me to work at my Desktop for 10hrs / day. I've tried the HM Aeron Remastered (full options) for 6 months but it was cutting my legs blood flow and developed acute sciatica sitting on it. So I sold it and tried the new Asus ROG Destrier, which I found to have a very good backrest and an amazing lumbar support, but unfortunately the mesh seat chairs seem to be too firm / rigid for my thighs (fortunately the sciatica disappeared once I stopped using the Aeron and Asus ROG, it looks like all mesh seats cut my thighs circulation). Then I tried the Embody, but it lacks a solid lumbar support. I did a very extended and time consuming research and figured out that the Leap (bad cushion / bad headrest) and the Fern (bad lumbar curve, even with the lumbar support) wouldn't be good candidates for me. The Gesture kinda appeals me, but I've read lots of bads review about its poor cushioning (seat), so I'm not sure if I want try it at this point. The RH New Logic 220 looks like the optimal solution, but it costs 2.5k Euros here in Europe, so want to be sure before pulling the trigger.

[@elpabar]

Excellent comparative video! Thank you for your personal investment!

[@lbnycity89]

Can you do a review for the new Hermann Miller Asari chair?

[@DM-vo2ke]

Something else to throw in oa thay unlike most of the other chairs which end up being the same in £'s as $'s, if not more, the ASUS is considerably cheaper in the UK. Bad warranty aside it firmly puts itself in the mid budget range

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

3 yearts warranty actually in uk.

[@DM-vo2ke]

​@@OfficialEthern1tyoh really? Where did you find that?

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

@@DM-vo2ke ordered one throught scan computer. Stated 3 years warranty

[@DM-vo2ke]

@@OfficialEthern1ty Nice one. Tempted to pull the plug. What's Scan's return process like?

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

@@DM-vo2ke I don't know for chairs. ordered lots of stuff with them. Never had any issues with return. It's a good company to deal with (They are pretty big in the uk)

[@Cobinja]

That tilt motion looks similar (but more ponounced) to the one on the Steelcase Series 2.

[@60vNeon1]

can you do a test about "GENESIS Astat 700"?

[@chimichanga5964]

would you say the Asus chair's seatpan is more comfortable than the Titan's?

[@Ahnestly]

yeah I personally think so!

[@MichaelSalois-s1j]

Do you have an overall top chair? I'm kind of torn between the two Embody versions or the Fern and adding an atlas headrest to whichever one. I'm 5'6" and it would be for gaming/home office use. I sat in a base embody in a HM store near me and really liked it but wasn't sure if I'd like the Logitech version more and I'm not sure there's a way to test out a Fern before buying.

[@brentschmogbert]

go to a showroom and try them. most (professional) stores offer two weeks of free "try at home "policy.

[@venom5809]

Don't buy a Fern, I have a Fern, it sucks. Going to trade it for an Embody. I also have a Leap, that's much better than the Fern.

[@Ahnestly]

My top pick is an Embody, and the Fern is a close #2 pick for me. If you're in the USA, get both and return the one(s) you don't like - the return policies are excellent! And please consider using my links! Helps the channel a LOT!!!

[@njbenji]

Hey I recently got a ergo office chair and it’s uncomfortable for me and I think it’s because of the seat depth, I’m used to a bucket seat like my old gaming chair so I sit with my foot like under my thigh so like half cross legged and with this chair it’s not long enough to keep my foot on, my last chair went almost the whole length of my thigh and this one is like half the length, I’m almost 6’1 so I’ve been thinking about getting the xl andaseat Kaiser 3, xl so I have plenty of room for my legs but would you suggest a different chair or maybe I should go with a large instead of xl, and I’ll be sure to use ur link and coupon code lol, thanks

[@Ahnestly]

Hey! I would say either of those would work, but get the XL size bc the seat depth is longer! If you want a softer seat, the Kaiser 3 is the way to go. If you want a firmer seat and a slightly better lumbar, the Secretlab is the way to go! Hope this helps! Please don't forget to use my link! Helps the channel a LOT!

[@RjSchopp]

Is there a work around for lower back pain with the Herman miller embody? Idk if it’s just my posture or maybe a known issue but I feel it sorta digs into me. Anyone else have that issue?

[@Ahnestly]

Generally, you want to lean back a tiny bit in your chair to relieve that lower back pain - you want to transfer some of your weight onto the backrest of the chair.

[@RjSchopp]

@@Ahnestly is there any known issues of the chair that causes this? Could I possibly have a “defective chair” or do you feel that issue is typically correlated to positioning?

[@urgore]

You need to reactive you're lower back's mobility and strength. My therapist told me to do that, it's in french but you definitly can imitate it : kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HCeIGpZseFe7M It's very effective, do it at work when you have 1-2 minutes break. Start slow :) Hope you'll get better

[@Foxtroxity]

just a no brainer, spend a few months just steadily save to buy Herman Miller Embody. haha.. thats all you need. its the best chair i would say out there. right? :)

[@saibgassanov3378]

The chair goes for 1k eur where i live and i simply don't see how this price is justified when secret lab titan evo is half of it. And it also has a fixed back tilt, not sure why you said only the rog has it.

[@JavierSegura]

The secretlab chairs are the stiffest, hardest, most uncomfortable chairs there are. The price of the ROG is high, yeah, but it's also true that the ROG is better in every way to the secretlab chairs.

[@ethan_t35]

IKEA Styrpstal the same chair.

[@wyliecoyote1696]

If you had to choose; Embody or Leap?

[@Ahnestly]

Embody. With a headrest. Please consider using my link if you decide to pick up! Helps the channel a lot!

[@dergibog27]

Ever do a review on the Hinomi H1 pro, auto or steer clear?

[@Ahnestly]

I have it in the studio and been dragging my feet to review…not sure how I feel about it. I was liking it more til I started experiencing other chairs out there. Verdict is still out…one of these days, I’ll get to the review…

[@dergibog27]

@@Ahnestly Awesome. Thankyou. 👍🏼

[@yatesbenjamin]

How does Crandall stack up vs btod refurbished chairs?

[@Ahnestly]

I don’t have any relationship with BTOD. They contacted me, but it seemed like they they were trying to take advantage of me. They never followed up on my request. David contacted me and was willing to go above and beyond - his willingness to work with me and even help me make videos that might deter potential buyers of his products (used Steelcase chair buying guides) spoke volumes for me that it’s not just about money for him. His company’s reputation proves that it’s not just me who thinks the world of him. So that’s why I trust him/his work wholeheartedly! I’m sure BTOD makes fine products, but just throwing in my .002 cents!

[@yatesbenjamin]

@@Ahnestly thank you so much. 🙏🏼 After watching your videos I looked at Crandall's refurbished process. It looks amazing. If I do order from them I'll use your link. Thank you so much. Right now I’m just in a big debate as to whether I should get the leap, V2 refurb or the gesture refurb the Aeron. I want to focus on good posture. I'm a medical student (hrs of studying) and I trade in the stock market. I also want a decent headrest as I have 2 levels of monitors. Apparently less cushioning is actually better for back health.Just unsure which one is better for back, hips and neck health.

[@Ahnestly]

@@yatesbenjamin yeah right now the leap doesn’t have a viable headrest. It comes down to gesture or aeron. Both are fantastic chairs - just a suggestion but order both and return the one you don’t like! Haha I appreciate the support and let me know what you decide on!

[@johnreygrueso9426]

Can you compare it in Cougar Argo One? :D TIA

[@CheemstheBoomer]

Hi Ahnestly, which are your thoughts on the SteelCase Gesture with headrest? I’m probably buying one

[@Ahnestly]

Made this video a while back! Check it out and Steelcase has a 15% off sale right now, that’s not known to the public (everyone else will get access after on the 30th) - please use my link and code if you decide to pick up. It helps the channel a LOT! Steelcase Gesture - The Best Chair for Tall People kzbin.info/www/bejne/baiqZoineK2So7s

[@dubuuu2872]

watching this while sitting on my own destrier hits different

[@rainerrain9689]

How ?

[@licho98Mactavish]

You still have it? How does the mesh and lumbar support hold up?

[@pictureus]

Didn't HM say that you lose the warranty if you use a headrest?

[@Ahnestly]

How will they know if you used a headrest? Do you plan on telling them?

[@pictureus]

@@AhnestlyNo but didn't you a while back mention it can (like 6 months plus or something) put some pressure on the seat from the headrest and perhaps they'll see scratches or something?

[@Ahnestly]

@pictureus that was an Aeron, and it’ll only scratch if you’re not careful. the embody doesn’t physically attach to any part of the seat. but with all this, scratches can come from anywhere.

[@pictureus]

Ah I see :) Thank you for your swift reply. Like your videos but cannot make my mind up which chair I want to invest in since it can be quite expensive ^^,

[@MichaelWinters-l1f]

Should I get a Hayworth Zody for $175 or a Herman Miller Embody for $550?

[@mikewu3103]

you should wake up from you dreaming. there is no embody and zody for that prices. just wake up

[@J_Madison]

I went with the Logitech Embody as I don't trust ASUS as a brand anymore and the warranty difference is night and day.

[@brettjlim]

bro what shoes are you wearing it looks nice and unique

[@Ahnestly]

Bro! I already shared! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3ZeH2qi9Z3pNk

[@user-lb1yq2xy9g]

Could you review Razer Fujin Pro chair?

[@Ahnestly]

Once it releases, yes I plan to!

[@chavaulloa4283]

Will you make a video on the Xbox Haworth chairs?

[@formulaic78]

They are stupidly expensive

[@COddietsch]

The Secret Lab not only locks in (3) tilt back positions but it also locks in 8 plus reclining positions until you are in a completely laying flat position. My only grip with Secret Lab and this might be better if I had bought the Titan XL is that the Omega's seat is not wide enough for a bigger person and not soft enough for long hours of sitting. I am retired and a gamer so I might spend 4 hours in one sitting or even fall asleep in my chair. The Omega seat needs more cushion but it has fantastic versatility... lumbar pillow and head pillow. Good video but appears like the chair is not made for bigger people even if it were cheaper.

[@discrtidunkwn]

19:54 you used the wrong title card

[@Ahnestly]

yeah :-( i get mentally fatigues when trying to edit 20+ minute videos...and I hate hearing myself so I get sloppy towards the end. Apologies!!!

[@discrtidunkwn]

no need for apology, not an chastisement just an FYI. appreciate the videos and value you provide @@Ahnestly

[@RookieRay]

A lot of gamers wear headsets. Does the headrest on this chair interfere with headsets?

[@Ahnestly]

you're fine if facing forward, but if you turn, the side of the headrest will bang into your headphones. This is true of every headrest, unfortunately

[@OFFICIALRAPTORTHERAPPER]

What chair do you personally use

[@Ahnestly]

The gaming embody and the Anthros!

[@OFFICIALRAPTORTHERAPPER]

@@Ahnestly wait a min u gave me two options... which one u use more lmfao

[@Ahnestly]

@@OFFICIALRAPTORTHERAPPER haha I review chairs for a living. I use a gaming embody and Anthros at office. Embody for relaxing posture, Anthros for proper posture. At home, I have a Haworth fern, mostly do admin work and gaming at home. Yes, I just gave you 3 options. Don’t pick what’s best for me. Pick what’s best for you! (And please use my links if you pick up!)

[@GeobertQuach]

The real question we’re all asking: with this new chair in the game, which is your favorite???

[@Ahnestly]

Still the Embody with a headrest...I mentioned it in the video!

[@thegamer-dad]

@@Ahnestly Where do you recommend we buy the Embody headrest?

[@Ahnestly]

@@thegamer-dad kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX7MaqNpi5Zgfsk

[@littlep0531]

I think you might need a data sheet to show everything

[@sasso3844]

a flexible backrest is not even that special anymore. I just found a 200euro (!) chair on amazon which is named Holludle or something (actually had their previous chair which was great (amazon used them and slapped their "amazon basic brand on it, the chair was called UMI, lasted pretty long on me considering it had probably a cheaper foam seat than most of the high end chairs, but yea never had any pain with it) and now this newer "Holludle" version now really has all the features. The backrest is even more flexible than the embody chair (btw I had in total 9 or 10 of all the high end chairs you can name for 1000-1500bucks for a few weeks but send them all back again, money never felt worth it and most of the time the high priced chairs gave me more pain then anything else) but yeah besides the flexible backrest (left and right movement, and also has somewhat the same backrest mechanic of the leap v2, where when you lean backwards or into the headset the lower part of the backrest moves as well, like into your lower back to prevent you from slouching with a crooked back. The chair even has a freaking seat depth adjustment with like 3 steps and a pretty spacious seat as well. On top of that, 2d adjustable headrest and also fully 4D (!) armrests for only 200euros lol. Never seen these features on cheaper ergo chairs. The markets going wild. Like the arms feel more solid and not as flimsy as even the arms of the fern...

[@riotdrone]

i have a gaming embody with the atlas headrest and it is amazing. i can't imagine a better chair. but all in all it's very expensive

[@Ahnestly]

Yeah...it's a game changer. But $2k for a chair is kinda wild!!

[@PhixatesLeftNostril]

Phenomenal video.

[@Ahnestly]

Means a lot. Thank you for taking the time to comment something encouraging!!

[@PhixatesLeftNostril]

@@Ahnestly actually i think it was your video where you explain what to look for when buying a used Aeron that really really helped me out. Thanks for that.

[@chitterlingsrtasty]

hmmmm i'd get a bare bones haworth fern in black for (currently) 990 before this ROG.

[@AATproducer]

I hate synrotilt chairs.... there is just no way to relax and everytime you lean back, you slide forward making it a really bad posture for you back. Synchrotilt might be good for working and only leaning back a little bit but if you really lean all the back this is just not it

[@taomahNEGEV]

Fern or Embody over the overhyped ROG Destrier hands down.

[@Ahnestly]

I agree! I think the Destrier offers an interesting proposition at 1/2 the price of the Embody and quite a bit less than the Fern. When you factor in a $200 headrest for each of those chairs, price difference grows even larger (although the headrests for both of them are WAY better than the Destrier's). Warranty is a huge factor in that price bump, so something to keep in mind!

[@thorsmikael9482]

If Asus believed in this chair and the build quality they would give it more then 2 year of warranty.Have a nice chair life so long it last if you buy it.

[@retropunk24]

Going to add my two cents here as someone who owns an Embody and tried the Destrier for a week: The gap that the Destrier leaves in the back when you pull the seat forward for maximum depth means if you lean that seat back all the way, you are almost guaranteed to be sitting on the metal frame of the seat and not the mesh, and that frame hurts. I also wasn't a fan of the lack of spots to lock in reclined positions. I will say that ASUS came close and it's still a damn fine chair, but it's below the Embody for me and I'm not giving my Embody up. It's just too good.

[@Ahnestly]

Agreed!!

[@sunnyhaq85]

@@Ahnestly In Asus defence its also about half the price so if its that close then its great value for money I suppose

[@mz1929]

lol u can even tell in the video/camera its not a 1:1 match, head rest looks more turquoise

[@Ahnestly]

I dont have uniform lighting on my shots (most are top down shots at a 45ish degree angle). Therefore, it’s creating shadows on the lower parts of the chair. However, to your point, some people have noted a slight color difference in their headrest. Atlas apparently worked with the same folks that did the embodys backing plastic coloring, so not sure why the slight difference in color.

[@Pahtwo]

oof that remanufactured leap v2 goes up to 1.3k canadian

[@user-bm4gb6lr8d]

Fujin chair!

[@Ahnestly]

I reached out to see if I could get a hold of one...regardless, don't think it's coming out til November!

[@SpenceR774]

I am torn, the Asus ROG destrier looks good but reading comments saying the seat is hard/not that comfy and the armrest and headrest move a lot make me think twice. On the other hand I see lots of comments from people saying they are very satisfied. For that price tag I really do not want to make mistakes but I do not know what to do...

[@Ahnestly]

It is tough. Finding a chair with a good headrest at this price point is really difficult. That being said, check out crandall office - they sell refurb aerons and you can get a headrest from atlas headrest for around $900 total!

[@L3AF]

also keep in mind a super super soft chair seat is not good either for u. u should google a bit around abt that in general

[@SpenceR774]

@@L3AF yes I am aware. I believe this chair has it a bit on the firmer side for ergonomic purposes though, do you confirm?

[@SpenceR774]

@@Ahnestly Thanks man, much appreciated. I watched a few videos reviewing the aerons, although it might be very good for my back, the very rigid frame on the seat turned me off a little bit but I'll go to a showroom and test it there directly if I can. If I like it, i'll buy it refurbished and get an additional headrest! I am still also thinking of the ROG destrier and the Embody Logitech though.. these are my two main choices for now.

[@L3AF]

@@SpenceR774 cant confirm i dont own nor sat in this i am thinking abt mby buying and upgrade from arozzi chair

[@REMY.C.]

I lost count of the "phenomenal". Way too many makes it lose its meaning of exceptional. Then you'll have a shortage when you'll encounter other phenomals and you'll have to compare - more or less phenomenal than this one.

[@Ahnestly]

what a phenomenal comment ;-)

[@REMY.C.]

@@Ahnestly 😂 Phe No Me Nal! Video was phenomenal though, liked it.

[@Ahnestly]

@@REMY.C. oh shoot where was that from? Thought I just watched a movie with that. Yeah I gotta have a better rating system or make a rating video

[@el__2079]

What about Cougar Argo?

[@rolandhungary4120]

Between HM Mirra 2 and ASUS ROG Destrier, which would you recommend for PC gaming and watching movies ? You are amazing ! (L) (Because I can buy both at a similar price)

[@Ahnestly]

man i can't believe i'm saying this...the destrier. I just sat on both of them right now - the Mirra 2 pushes my arms a bit more forward compared to the Destrier, but the build quality on the mirra 2 is better + better warranty are things you should consider before making your final decision. I know that a company has a headrest for the Mirra 2, haven't tested it, but it seems decent. To watch movies, I 10000% recommend a headrest. I hope that helps inform your decision! If you decide to pick up either, please consider using my links! (Destrier still out of stock here in the USA though...lol)

[@zuga-3938]

after trying the fern I'd advise everyone to stay far away from this chair. It feels actually cheap for its price and the overall comfort, back and seat is a joke. The seat is rather small, has a weird curvature that give you pressure points on the butt, a gap in the back if seat is extended (otherwise the seat feels like its' for toddlers and the gap is still there even if you only extend the seat out by 1 step), and the cushion is pretty freaking hard. Even 200-300 dollar no name chairs or from ikea are more comfy and don't give you pain everywhere. legit a scam

[@Ahnestly]

Everyone is built different! I'm happily sitting in mine right now!

[@SuperSujesh]

All the girls picked the XL, size does matter boys... :P

[@fuxbox]

Honestly how can anyone justify the prices for these chairs? Yet another thing that makes me completely lose faith in humanity

[@JosephReference]

If you think this is expensive, there's beds 5x the price of these chairs. Cars 10x the price, etc etc. Office chairs aren't cheap. Industry knows most places use them, homes, business, gaming. They're gonna charge a premium for these ergo chairs. Cheap office chairs exist, but good ones cost money. Life is unfair. You don't NEED to buy these. This is just the premium choice.

[@Andrewadams24]

Haworth fern is truly the worst chair ive ever purchased / sat in. anyting other than that chair wins by millions. wish i had known of this one before. had to add lumbar to it and pads everywhere including "purple" seat mat to my Haworth fern. sad really.

[@Ahnestly]

Man, this goes to show every person is different. I'm loving my Haworth Fern (sitting in my home office now)

[@Nersius]

Really surprised. I had consistent back and rear pain for years. Tried Steelcase, felt like I was sitting on a steel case, was processing my return by hour 3. Went Fern, pain's been rapidly diminishing and I've found myself staying in it even after my office job to read for a few hours.

[@venom5809]

My Fern sucks, sitting on it right now. Going to trade it for an Embody. I wish I still had my Leap in the meantime but I gave it to my brother.

[@Andrewadams24]

@@salut9658 I reached out to Haworth right after I realized ehhh this probably isn’t for me and they legit said “sorry if the box is gone we can’t take it back.” Which is beyond me for a chair that costs 1200

[@georgecalistruofficial]

Yea, right, al most 1.000 euro price. No, thanks, to expensive.

[@peoul1]

the asus increase up to 15% gaming skill

[@brentschmogbert]

guys.for this price get a chair from an actual ergo chair manufacturer (like steelcase, herman miller, haworth etc)...asus is only buying prebuilt crap from china and putting their logo on it. they are primarily a pc parts producer. not an ergonomic chair company

[@SuperCaptainMOo]

Very true but the lumbar support this chair provides for the price is unparalleled

[@andrewtrujillo8792]

And their "customer service" on those PC parts is egregious. I wouldn't put much faith in them doing any better for owners of this chair.

[@gloom8966]

This is actually bs, its a very good option for budget ergonomics. Also you can't get a chair from a manufacturer like Herman Miller for 750 bucks...

[@albertxion513]

​@@gloom8966Herman Miller Verus, Vantum. Haworth Soji, Very. Steelcase Series 2. Eurotech Vera. OfficeMaster Yes Chair.