Ahsoka Tano vs Baylan Skoll (Full Fight) - Star Wars: Ahsoka

[@theintunity]

Too bad the actor passed away. I found Baylan Skoll by far the most interesting and intriguing character in the entire Ahsoka show, even more so than Ahsoka self.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

He’s the only reason why I tuned in. He was better than Kylo Ren and Snoke. Hell the fact that he carry’s himself like a knight similar in poise as Dooku did adds to the image that he’s a very mature and mentally sound person. The fact that he kept his word to Sabine was even more interesting still and shows a set of principles made him a fascinating villain. It was a fresh take on the dark Jedi trope and Ray Stevenson absolutely killed it. This was probably the closest Disney will ever get to an interesting villain.

[@havok9001]

for sure & this show is better then the other one cuz this has better story telling & slow built up to a fight

[@jonnylak3856]

it's amazing what a top tier actor can do to a sub par piece of work

[@alexheisenberg8709]

I've learned that in this show every character that ignites their saber first in a duel is always the one who loses. Take snips here for example

[@mchunter2266]

Except Obi against Anakin

[@rileyscheller7739]

@@mchunter2266that’s not in this show though?

[@marksworld10]

Luke Skywalker return of the Jedi

[@darthgamer9468]

@@marksworld10 "in this show"

[@Mrbackblower]

Except Obi Wan against Grievous.

[@bjarczyk]

This is a remarkable tribute to martial arts. Not everything is about speed and flashiness. They way they calmly size each other up is beautifully done. Dawson’s relaxed confidence embodies the Jedi philosophy perfectly.

[@the_gask6070]

Absolutely. The coreography of these fights are top notch and "realistic". Even the acrobatics of Snips, which are part of her calling card, were correctly measured and effective, rather than irrelevant.

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

flashiness like the unnecessary spins to expose your back to your opponent aye

[@thebatman7347]

Thus fighr sucked from ahsokas part, she is stiff and uncoordinated. Doesnt look natural and looks forced. In choreographies this show could learn a thing or 2 from the acolyte, writing sucked but the figjts were beautifully done

[@doomgang2541]

The idea of jedi fighting forms is completely abandoned in this series though. Baylan wantonly swings his saber, there’s hardly any technique.

[@allistertenpenny6871]

The Acolyte had some well choreographed fight scenes too

[@andrewpaul4488]

I like how when Baylen activates his lightsaber, it made the same sound as a Sith lightsaber.

[@borris3768]

Because he's a sith...

[@ThespianPrince13]

@@borris3768No, he’s not.

[@martincahill8840]

Dark Jedi?

[@libramoon9968]

My lightsaber will make 3 queef sounds. Then it activates

[@kneelbeforezak]

How have I only now noticed that, that sound is only heard for red light sabres 😅

[@mrcrandberry6115]

I noticed how Baylon fights. He doesn't fight like other Jedi, or former Jedi. He moves like a medieval knight - something you rarely see in Star Wars. Very minimal movements, very concise attacks.

[@skatedurr]

facts

[@piotrgowacki6204]

Baylan fights like medieval knight, Ahsoka fights like samurai. I love it.

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

Disney gets their realism and we get a beautiful dance of swords

[@KombatantChampion]

The Kendo starting positions before they attack at first make me so happy.

[@benster5]

The stances definitely brought me back to my old kendo days.

[@zarander]

Ice cream usually makes me happy

[@bighatastrea]

I hate Disney SW and this show but I like the fights here and in Acolyte. It feels like they go through the different sword styles, adjusting, thinking into finishing this quickly. Reminds me of the old Jedi Knight games where you have various styles from light to heavy, and you usually went for the heavy kendo-like one. When the enemy used heavy too tho..... well.

[@deyan6558]

@@bighatastrea As a seasoned vet at Jedi Knight - in 90% of the times, the moment someone switched to Heavy/Kendo, it was game over for him. It was the most commonly used style and the least mastered one at the same time. Was so easy to counter with fast style, just overwhelming with pure speed. Ah, those were the days of the last game at all with actual free melee combat, where everyone could have their own style and were not locked in flashy animations, coz consoles cant handle anything else.

[@GattsBerserkArmor]

I love the different fighting styles across this show.

[@PhantomHarley]

I love Baylan. He feels like someone who could’ve been in the original trilogy. There’s this weird emphasis on modern depictions of Vader which try to make him as flashy as prequel era villains, but here we have Baylan who goes the opposite direction and proves that types like him and Vader are actually cooler when they’re simple.

[@brandonm5130]

I think the only reason they do that with vader is because otherwise they have a hard time explaining how he possibly could be as dangerous as prequel fighters were. I also dont think they really make him that flashy, just fast enough still to match fast people

[@PhantomHarley]

@@brandonm5130 Fighting isn't just about speed. Good technique can match quickness in its own way. A medieval knight isn't going to sword fight the same way as a fencer or a samurai.

[@brandonm5130]

@@PhantomHarley i think they do a good job balancing vader still being slower than opponents like ahsoka in rebels and obi wan in kenobi while not making him slow like ANH or the other originals

[@uberness77]

@@PhantomHarley This is not true at all. Speed is super important. Especially in the context of star wars, where you have superhuman beings with precognition and blades that can sever limbs with a mere flick of the wrist. With lightsabers a foe who can outspeed you will beat you because all they need is one opening. With real swords, to an extent, there's margin for error, armor, etc, etc. Outside of very special circumstances (IE: Cortosis or beskar) most of those factors don't exist.

[@PhantomHarley]

@@uberness77 Blabbity blah blah wookiepedia says blah blah.

[@ErosNL]

Baylans fighting style is so incredibly unique, to me it looks like he has mastered the ability to very slowly let out the dark side during a fight, as if he can increase the power withdrawn from it on command, without getting consumed by it. I'll try to explain: 1:09 Baylan looks cautious and nervous, but clear of mind, he is fighting Ahsoka with his past Jedi training and knowledge. His next few strikes and dodges are direct, powerful and according to the book, but can't seem to catch Ahsoka off guard. 1:34 Baylan realizes he needs to do something to get the upper hand and you can see the exact moment when he decides to "fuel himself up", the music gets going, his entire style suddenly changes as if he is fighting with natural instinct. You can see how his fighting style is still very Jedi-like, but you can also see how he has given his own twist to it over the years. He still looks slightly nervous, but not cautious anymore. 2:28 Ahsoka lands some kicks and gets Baylan down on the ground, he realizes again that his previous efforts were not enough and lets even more of the dark side in him. 2:45 Baylan stands back up and comes for Ahsoka again, when he enters the frame, his entire stance looks menacing, he stopped being cautious and is now also not nervous anymore, the confidence he has in that walk towards Ahsoka is terrifying, this is close to peak Baylan. 3:10 When he sees Ahsoka throw Shin against the rock, he is absolutely done with her, he knows he has to end the fight now. He gets Ahsoka down on the ground in 2 strikes, and when Ahsoka blocks the 3rd she even has to use the force to help. At this point he has basically won the fight, and upon realizing Sabine doesn't want to destroy the map, he takes his chance. now go back to the first timestamp, 1:09, tell me that isn't a completely different Baylan standing there. I love Baylan, and Ray Stevenson executed him flawlessly, may he rest in peace.

[@BlkBoyAwesome]

The reason for the heavy strikes and over powering of her with his blade has been explained that he and Shin lightsabers crystals are unique in the sense where they give weight to the light saber blade. Which is also why they are orange and have that unique sound upon activation. Traditionally - which you probably already know - the only thing of any weight when wielding a lightsaber is the hilt. The blade itself has no weight. But Balons and Shins do. I thought this bit of lore was pretty awesome. Shin and Baylon were two new great additions to the Star Wars universe.

[@Urizen777]

@@BlkBoyAwesome I've only heard that they wanted Baylan to fight like a medieval knight wielding a longsword as opposed to Ahsoka's more dexterous kendo style of fighting, for choreography's sake. Was the actual weight and the origin of these orange lightsabers officially confirmed? I quite like the idea of lightsabers that are actually heavier to wield.

[@BlkBoyAwesome]

@@Urizen777 From Screen rant: According to the sourcebook, great lightsabers were a unique kind of lightsaber that were larger and heavier than traditional sabers. Much like the large great swords of the Middle Ages, great lightsabers were difficult to wield one-handed, and instead forced the user to use both hands. This allowed the user of a great lightsaber to channel their strength into powerful, long strokes. While the saber may unassumingly look similar to any other lightsaber, the reinforced hilt made each strike deadly. Ahsoka had never faced anyone with a great lightsaber before, which was likely why she was overpowered in the duel.

[@BlkBoyAwesome]

@@Urizen777 Also from Screen Rant: Baylan Skoll’s lightsaber is different, though. It evidently does have a certain heaviness to it, one that is more pronounced when the lightsaber is active. It's likely Baylan’s lightsaber is something known as a Great Lightsaber, a rare weapon specially designed for larger and physically stronger Jedi. The hilts were heavier to accommodate a longer blade. It’s also reminiscent of the crossguard lightsaber Cal Kestis eventually wields in Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, which is noticeably heavier and less agile.

[@Urizen777]

@@BlkBoyAwesome Very interesting. thanks for the info! As someone who is a HEMA swordfighter, I like this idea, as the difference in weight and type changes the way you wield the weapon completely. As a sidesword fighter as well as well as a sabre fighter, I've sparred against people with longswords, rapiers, and even smallswords and it's very fun how the dynamic changes and the approach to fighting has to be adjusted.

[@bencera6067]

Bro this show wasn’t perfect but I loved Ray Stevensons character as well as Hayden’s flashbacks. I really hope they start giving projects to people that know what they’re doing. Andor was not only one of the best Star Wars shows, but of any show in general of that year.

[@darthdracul8372]

Honestly, I don’t care about competitions besides it was balanced this series and soon it will become essential to what we have planned soon Liberation

[@liocarlos9086]

Andor a mi no me gustó sin sables de luz no es Star wars

[@A3zazel]

@@liocarlos9086 «Андор» отличное художественное произведение, в первую очередь. Да и вселенную Звёздных Войн оно раскрывает и дополняет куда больше 99% того, что сняли Дисней.

[@nightwing6062]

Well obviously not, nothing is perfect

[@jmart4197]

That crazy 360 turn baylen does with the lightsaber @ 1:40 is 🔥

[@j.avaldes9856]

An absolute acrobatic tank

[@Nimasti]

My favourite move of the next decade.

[@BigPapaDrewski]

Gives me Witcher vibes

[@mouscream-ti9yl]

I miss him. He was one of my favorite actors.

[@Forestranger4567]

Also when he said “That was unwise” his walk-over is actually terrifying

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

He was right too, ahsoka was unwise not to just throw it away after pulling it out of its sitting

[@extremehunter426]

Baylan is by far one of if not the best character to come out of modern star wars, he's a calm, cool and collected person but a power house when dueling

[@Daniel_The_Enlightened]

I didn't like the show, but Ray Stevenson gave all that he had, that much is clear. May he Rest In Peace.

[@anti4107]

Him and hayden carried the show

[@fatman123526]

Ashoka let the skywalker arrogance get her on this one. Never pulled the second saber, so vastly underestimated Baylen. She tried to beat Baylen at his own style of fighting which she has never been suited for. If the goal is to stop them from getting the map, it’s just as easy to buy yourself time by sticking a saber through the scanning machine.

[@Nimasti]

No she didn't take a second saber because Baylan has too much pure strength for her. She wouldn't be able to block anything with only one arm.

[@anakinsghost4787]

@@Nimasti Which is why she loses once she burns her hand.

[@Simon_White]

3:04, 3:32, 3:47 these moments touched my heart ❤️💔🥺 Ahsoka and Sabine are worried about each other, it is clear that they have managed to forget about the disagreements that existed between them before and began to value each other, a master-apprentice connection appeared between them. Perhaps you could even say that they treat each other like mother and daughter, from a certain point of view. Very nice to see this. It’s noticeable that the writers put effort into writing the characters and their relationship. And of course it is worth noting that Rosario Dawson and Natasha Liu Bordizzo did a great job of understanding and acting out their heroines. Bravo! 👏

[@EmmanuelB]

So sad that we won't get to see the end of Baylan's story.

[@jubalate]

This duel is very force focused. I like how slow and precise their moves are.

[@graymoon3000]

Loved the sounds of the sabers. This scene was dope. I really thought every light saber duel in the prequels would be epic I mean every last one lol. We did get some good ones tho but not every one lol

[@Forestranger4567]

2:00 Baylen looked so sick right there! When I first watched I thought he was walking away for a split second then used his momentum to swing back at Ashoka

[@alexwest2573]

I’m still so sad at the fact Ray didn’t get to see how loved his character is, I thought the entire cast was good too.

[@Valhallen002]

Love the orange lightsaber, orange was my fav color as a kid and after taking some internet quiz big surprise that's what I got. I would totally use the both the light and dark side in fights or life in general in the star wars universe because ill always believe in balance.

[@cbf1plus868]

I do appreciate that Disney Wars gave us cool new colors in live action: Dark, Orange, Yellow, & White. Just wish the choreography was better.

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

The choreography in this is top notch, perfect balance between prequels and originals

[@cbf1plus868]

@ everyone is entitled to their opinion 🙏

[@Whatacomedian_]

Liev schreiber is the only actor I think they can recast in this roll.

[@KoflerDavid]

This lightsaber fight feels quite different... I get the feeling that they are not just trying to hit each others lightsabers, but almost every stroke had the potential and the intent to kill behind it unless blocked.

[@danyboyjo1394]

2 season warriors fighting with a lot of training

[@Nite-Rise]

Me: Ha, this old man doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into. Ahsoka is a clone wars veteran. Nobody can beat a clone wars veteran 😂 Also Me:…… Hmm? Huh, come again? Baylen? A clones wars veteran too? …….. uh oh 😐

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

The choreography in this is amazing, its a mix between the speed of the prequels and the steadiness of the OT movies, Baylan uses his superior strength to bash ahsoka while also maintaining skilful moves, and ahsoka using her speed an acrobats to fend of Baylan, by far the best choreography in the Disney era of star war, too bad Ray Stevenson passed away, he carried this show

[@lkjgjiy7312]

The fight looks breathtaking at 1.25 speed. And it even reminds me Yoda or Maul fights, which are the best

[@lkjgjiy7312]

It'd be even more breathtaking to see Ahsoka's choreography from the 7th season of The Clone Wars in live action, but Ahsoka is older here, so ok

[@CheekyMoose0777]

The only issue I have with this fight is they almost stand around at times during the fight. It would be nice to see them go in for killing blows instead of standing there waiting for the next move. Take for instance when Baylan picks up the rock at 1:56 to 1:59 Ashoka just stands there watching him pick up the rock and fling it at her. In that moment you could’ve had Ahsoka go in for a strike, Baylan block it and then throw it at Ahsoka. She could’ve either quickly cut it in two or got hit by it and quickly have to recover.

[@ps123fan]

shes not as calm as yoda

[@duckyh9712]

Never seen someone swing so heavy. Almost like when you box a much heavier fighter. Even blocking would have you getting dominated by their size so you must move around.

[@IsaacIVMarc]

I don't know enough about the choreography that went into this. Everyone in the comments keeps mentioning martial arts and kendo. However, what I'm seeing from Baylan is primarily a more medieval-European fighting style, as if he was using a heavy broadsword. Again, I don't know for sure. Personally, I always thought the sword techniques in Star Wars were more Japanese inspired.

[@TheMan35-j1i]

I wonder why Ahsoka didn't use both of her sabers. I don't know why but watching her only use one feels illegal because I'm so used to seeing her dual wielding.

[@reaganronald3117]

It’s nice seeing new colors clash

[@germanpatis9136]

i know that Ahsoka was distracted here and that probably affected her performance but still,you gotta give my man Baylan some credit dude defeated someone who went toe to toe with Darth Maul....some decades ago!

[@Aquaflow_]

A lot of miserable ppl in here 😂 as someone who watches combat sports, I can appreciate the different fighting styles for their own beauty

[@moonsword11]

hm, it would be interesting to see what would have happened if she had shot at the orb while holding it in her hand. She would have destroyed the orb and her hand..

[@cobracommander3634]

Baylan's style definitely is djem so. Maybe a little ataru to compensate for the lack of mobility.

[@davidfbenko]

Shin Hati, the Little My of Star Wars.

[@3brianssolS]

That is so ahsoka tano

[@jedimobslayer2480]

You can really feel the power in Baylan’s strikes

[@MrAkili123]

This looks like my cousins light saber dueling in my backyard

[@RitaDragoo]

Baylon's technique is like a mixture of Darth Vader's technique and a old Anakin

[@thebatman7347]

Loved baylans greatsword kind of fighting style, looks great. Dawson needs to imorove her fighting skills, like she is very dedicated but she lacks the physical capability to move and lookg good. Her acting is very good. Give her some training and give this show the acolyte fighting team and we will have ine hell of a season 2... also recast baylan he is so necesary for s2

[@iNabber]

sucks so bad we will never get more of ray stevenson :(

[@edwardtaka5010]

Baylan Skoll always when he appeared stole all scene.... shame he passed away...

[@yetherapperreacts]

She can kick vaders ass so easily, but not him that’s crazy

[@anti4107]

You clearly need to watch rebels again because vader had the upperhand the entire fight and only damaged his mask because he was focused on ezra and kanan

[@yetherapperreacts]

@@anti4107 i did watch it and vader was fighting so lazily

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

Kinda wish Baylan had a cross guard since he’s holds himself like a knight, it would’ve suited him

[@jasonsniderman7803]

He had the qui Gon stance

[@TheMan35-j1i]

You got to love how like for the first 2 minutes Baylan and Ahsoka are pretty much just feeling each other out of course Ahsoka makes the first move. She reminds us why she's one of the biggest badasses is star wars history.

[@entropyOTD]

This man fights like he's trying to win, not like he's trying to display any form of power. Very shameful to a sith.... But very effective for a person.

[@Wialyatedris]

And yet the only normal fencer here is Hayden. It's a shame that he was not allowed to open up because he would have exposed Dawson as a nonentity.

[@thebatman7347]

Luckily she is getting classes for s2 i heard. Also they need to get the choreography team from acolyte, they need to salvage the only good thing from that show and throw it to fillioni, he would give them a good use

[@BlkBoyAwesome]

They are working together to build a live action show and universe. I don't think anyone cares or is trying to "expose" anyone if anything. They want to make sure they make the best product possible. Not show off their skills. Sheesh.

[@yetherapperreacts]

Still confused how she lost

[@rohansookloll296]

Where’s my Kyle kartarn

[@andersontananta1827]

Qimir vs baylan skoll a dark jedi

[@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524]

Baylan would level him. Qimir's style is similar to Ahsoka's.

[@bjbonifacio6514]

That 1:40 spin is smooth and clean

[@HiknbfunnyHkkgg]

8912 Kayli Ridge

[@chasengrieshop]

LOL, wow, they just looked at one another for a solid minute of run time at the beginning of this. That seriously needed to be trimmed down for better pacing. Just boring.

[@ddm62571]

This is the last time when Star Wars was good!

[@SkywalkerFoe]

Ahsoka was not a good show

[@andromeda5414]

​@@SkywalkerFoeAhsoka was a good show.

[@SkywalkerFoe]

@@andromeda5414 which part, where they ignore how force sensitivity works or have incompetent heroes and villains at every turn?

[@andromeda5414]

@@SkywalkerFoe I don't know how you've come to conclusions because they're false.

[@SkywalkerFoe]

@andromeda5414 Sabine didn't have a high enough midi-chlorian count to be force sensitive

[@matthewwilliamson1775]

If only this show was done the right way... I didn't like this fight as much and I dont think it ages very well. It has more potential to be what a lightsaber fight is supposed to be... also I havent seen the Acolyte (I wont) but We needed Daphne Keen in this show to portray Ahsoka's physical strength and skill no cap

[@ธัญญาอั้นประเสริฐ-ล6ฑ]

ครับ

[@SartixFilms]

I remember when lightsaber duels used to be cool

[@yametetakiro5914]

Not bad compare to kenobi fight. But not good compare to the prequels. The fight lack of... speed I guess. And cinematography doesnt help.

[@Mike-xp8zc]

Lol go watch accoyolye then

[@thescepterofjudah12]

What was the purpose of the Columbian Standoff at the beginning? Why did Ahsoka abandon her fighting style? And why didn’t Baylan Skoll just simply overpower her instead of all those unnecessary movements!? Baylan Skoll and Captain Enoch were the only reasons why I even tuned in to this horrendous show. But I did like this show a heck lot more than that trash show the Acolyte. 🤮

[@andrewplantagenet5811]

This duel is painful to watch. Star Wars has become wretched

[@3brianssolS]

She Star Wars

[@dchmpayne]

After watching the Acolyte light saber duel in episode 5.... this is mid at best

[@dodywidodo9433]

Lol gay

[@Bruno-xi7qz]

They should have make Ahsoka move like in The Clone Wars, Rosario Dawson should have trained a lot but they choose to make this a slow combat

[@bjarczyk]

I don’t think they should even be compared. What is brilliant about this scene is the way they are sizing each other up very slowly. The way Dawson actually embodies a calm flow state is perfection. I view this scene as a remarkable tribute to martial arts and old samurai films. We can’t just be wowed by the flashiness.

[@fatman123526]

@@Bruno-xi7qzkinda seemed like Ashoka got blinded by arrogance and tried to beat Baylan at his own game of power fighting.

[@rlanil5014]

tbh in this show lightsaber scenes pretty slow. Story of acolyte is a like a shit but give the devil her due lightsaber scenes were dope.

[@LantanaLodge]

13th!

[@jamesrominger3850]

Had to watch this in fast forward these old people move so slow

[@cutjack242]

her acting is so forced....the movements...the stoic face....just seems out of place.

[@admanaddy4172]

Terrible editing, cuts come way too fast you can’t follow the choreography

[@A3zazel]

Тут нет того, за чем вы бы захотели следить. Именно поэтому монтаж так сильно пытается это скрыть.

[@dylanrinker6831]

Couldn't have the choreography been..FASTER?

[@Thehardtruth69]

Yea. This fight looks boring af

[@dylanrinker6831]

@Thehardtruth69 sabers aren't baseball bats, and ahsoka is supposed to move acrobatic like, not...STOEIC....

[@QuintusStatiliousProcorpius]

This duel is a joke Compared to Acolyte. How come Dave Filoni can't film a good action scene despite he was in Lucasfilm for almost 20 years

[@paulrasmussen8953]

That show is also crap

[@derendrash]

​@@paulrasmussen8953 Except the lightsaber duel

[@paulrasmussen8953]

@@derendrash no that is also crap

[@chrisnirelbarahonamatute339]

​​@@paulrasmussen8953 not really, is the best lightsabers duel since prequels

[@paulrasmussen8953]

@@chrisnirelbarahonamatute339 not at all. The best were in rebels

[@jeffry1983]

STAR WOKE

[@imtoxiclol9141]

A lot of posing not much action

[@ryles1159]

Jesus Alec Guinness showed more fluidity than these two what an awful fight.

[@StudSnob]

so goofy. Never gonna watch this show.

[@Cthulhu357]

Sorry but this is a terrible fight scene, from useless spins, to non force user like movements, to the fact baylan parried snips attack (around 1:35) and forced a wide open guard for him to strike her down but decides to just spin her lightsaber around in a big circle.. also wtf was the beginning abt?.. why is snips slowly walking to the side.. while the other stares, just for her to stop, switch stances, then attack.. like wtf 😭😭 disney i hate you

[@bobsandwich3431]

Lol

[@brandonsmith9098]

And you wonder why people don't take Star Wars fans who say this kind of stuff seriously....

[@ps123fan]

well what about the first kenobi vs darth fight, would you say the same lol

[@Cthulhu357]

@@ps123fan i would say.. look at when it came out.. and also compare it to what also was available at the time.. we are way more knowledgeable on fight choreography now and have cgi to help boost it by 100x .. but ill still answer your question with yes! The choreography was bad imo in that scene too but at least was explained off by how George lucas believed lightsabers weighed at the time and the whole force battle concept that obiwan and vader were having since obi wan arrived at the death star.. but George lucas star wars also blessed me with more amazing fight scenes for the time and even many that hold up still to this day

[@Thehardtruth69]

Yea. This was such a trash fight.