Ahsoka vs Maul [IN-DEPTH Duel Breakdown]

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[@Tyranidus7]

Touching on Maul's inability to close a duel, he seems to want to go for the flashy finisher instead of the simplest. In this duel he could have cut the beam Ahsoka was on causing her to fall but instead opted to swing at her allowing her to disarm and force him off balance due to his robot legs. In Obi-wans duel against him in Ep 1 he taunts Obi instead of just force pushing him to his death. In the last duel against Obi Maul tries to kill him just like how Maul killed Qui-gon which results in Obi-wan knowing exactly what is going to happen and countering Maul. Maul goes for the flashy when he could just go for the simple.

[@frostburn6784]

Tyranidus I guess he did let his arrogance with the beam get the best of him what a pity ,thank you for your insight. Also this is why sidous deemed ankain over maul bc he remembered that maul let his arrogance get the best of him & thought vader would be different truly ironic i love it haha.

[@joshh8714]

@@frostburn6784 lmao now that you mention that I have to say you're completely right; all of sidious's former apprentices lost limbs due to arrogance.

[@charlie3528]

she could've jumped

[@Tyranidus7]

@@charlie3528 true but it's always hard to critique dueling styles of individuals with the power to predict each others moves before they even make them lol

[@frostburn6784]

TheyCallMeJosh Hwang I would agree with you lol except for dooku bc he was arrogant in a way bc anakin says “my powers have doubled since the last time we meet” then dooku said “great twice the pride double the fall ” which eventually turned out to be true in that sense ,but if it wasn’t for sidous telling dooku not to kill anakin then its plausible that dooku might’ve won i mean he cut off Anakins arm in attack of clones which is just a stepping stone & you could also argue that grievous might’ve killed Anakin if sidous didn’t want him alive ,but since obi wan was with him they had a fighting chance if that was the case.

[@christiawn]

"Apprentice to the strongest Sith that ever lived" _looks at maul, looks at ahsoka_ confused

[@billclark5055]

Maul

[@carwyntam2762]

@@billclark5055 it's a joke bc Anakin turns into Darth Vader

[@billclark5055]

@@carwyntam2762 I'm aware. I just had to be extra

[@themightykv-5410]

Darth Vader is the strongest Sith. It's confirmed by Disney and Battlefront II

[@billclark5055]

@@themightykv-5410 lol. How would BF 2 confirm it? Disney said Sidious is strongest

[@denniscook8487]

I say Maul is the winner, and here's my deciding factor. During the duel he disarmed Ahsoka twice. He didn't want to kill her and wanted to form an alliance to ruin Palpatine's plan. In his eyes everyone was going to die, that much was obvious. So there was no reason to waste time trying to kill someone who basically was condemned anyway. I do believe Ahsoka was a little over confident in her abilities though. Maul was one of Palpatine's best apprentices, he killed Qui-Gon. And Obi-Wan struggled with Maul multiple times during the Clone War. Maul even technically beat Obi-Wan during their duel on Naboo in The Phantom Menace. Maul has way more experience under his belt than Ahsoka. And some people don't give him enough credit. I mean did you see the way he just casually redirected those blaster shots... Anyway this duel was fantastic but when it comes down to who would win in a fight to the death. I'm giving it to Maul.

[@freerealestate6531]

Dennis Cook Maul won without question. If he wanted to kill ahsoka he would. And as you said he clearly is more powerful. After losing his brother it seems like he simply dosent care. At the end of the episode he was begging for death. He fears Sidious, not ahsoka.

[@m1a1abrams3]

was gonna say lol. maul is the apprentice of sidious and @$$oka is a padawan, barely knight. im sure maul would have rekt her.

[@P6r9n]

Dennis Cook He disarmed her, but she still held her own

[@gibio396]

Ahsoka Tano props to her to keep up with maul in general I mean I do believe that he wasn’t in the best psychological condition but probs to her anyway

[@freerealestate6531]

Gibi O I mean, i think he offerd her the position of his apprentice twice. He clearly held back. He is the superior fighter and if he didnt hold back and unleashed his anger uppon Ahsoka she would’ve been cought by suprise and quickly ended.

[@mateo_xv5693]

Am I the only one who wants to see Ahsoka and Maul working together.🤷‍♂️

[@jlin4819]

mateo_xv they kind of did in Rebels I think

[@Tinholtd12]

No,it could be amazing!

[@kaitplays-y6m]

Considering in episode 11 their stuck on a ship where they're both on the list to be executed very likely for episode 12.

[@jasonp.l5817]

Too bad they didn’t 😢

[@Bigpapa830]

Ebiegberi Adonkie but like Rebels is literally for babies having only 2 scenes that have hints of clone wars, Asokha vs Vader, and Maul vs Obi-Wan

[@smghero585]

Dave Filoni has already said that Maul was the superior duelist and was winning the fight. He also mentioned that Maul lost due to his arrogance and underestimating Ashoka simply being outsmarted.

[@Ahziu]

Bruh ashoka’s character design is amazing

[@macruz8503]

Spread thou cheeks: For real they should have done the movies based on Asokah and not that dam ray!

[@sickfoo5506]

@@macruz8503 shes gonna be in the mandalorian season 2

[@void7683]

More fetish content

[@emilruiz8655]

I want to like this comment, but there are 69 likes as I’m writing this moment, and I just can’t change that

[@malachilewis1313]

Ashoka is the BEST! I love her 💝💕

[@dildobaggins2759]

Basically he didnt want to kill her cuz he wanted her to join him...

[@stevenhiller2253]

Basically she didn't want to kill him because she needed information.

[@prezzyvcurrymuncher]

Steven Hiller listen you people overrate Ashoka I love her but she could never kill a maul who wants to kill her she would hold her own you really think Ashoka is better than maul? It’s debated if maul is powerful than kenobi and if you think she is your the most clapped Star Wars fan

[@Mysteriosf2ptwink]

@@stevenhiller2253 She couldn't kill him even if she wanted to. Meanwhile he could've killed her multiple times during this duel yet clearly hesitated (Hell even while he was holding back he was still dominating).

[@billclark5055]

Maul is definitely better than her. Ahsoka is gifted but, she isnt even top 100 jedi in season 7. Maul was holding back. Ahsoka was lucky she wasnt on the frontlines like most of the jedi council member. Most of the powerful jedi were on the frontlines during Order 6 with hundred of clones behind them went they got the Order. There is a green alien insectoid jedi knight who killed about 20 clones that attacked him. We saw Cal's master, Vos, Krell, and others kill jedi much easier than her. Keep in mind there are thousands of jedi in star wars before Order 66. Now after Order 66 she is probably top 10 or 20 jedi because only about 100 survive anyway. Now I do think Ahsoka would surpass Maul during Rebels. She is 34 and has master level experience by then. Ahsoka has knight level experience right now and she has good feats but nothing on Maul's level. She lost to Barris, lost to Grievous, and struggled against Pre Vizsula just a year ago in season 5. She also lost to bo Katarn. Every jedi fought in the clone wars so that's not an advantage for her. It was a tough war for everyone. Ahsoka is gifted and she benefits having Anakin as a master but people overhyped that. Sometimes a jedi is way stronger or weaker than his or her master. Vos is one of the strongest jedi in canon but, there is nothing special about his master in combat. Dooku is a level above Qui Gon and Yoda is a level above Dooku. Vos is a level above Aayla Secura. Also keep in kind that Maul is very troubled about Order 66 and is terrified of Sidious. Remember that his mother also just died and his brother before that. Ahsoka is great but, is at least a level below Maul. She never even best anyone like Qui Gon, Aayla Secura, Plo Koon, Ventrese, season 5 Savage, Grievous, or Shaak Ti. She hasn't even beat someone like Barris. Feats matter, but I still wish they would have handled it differently. They should have had some clones or death watch troopers help her win. And though Maul was more powerful he did lose to Ahsoka. He let her kick him and throw him during the initial engagement. And kept fighting when he disarmed her plus she threw him off in the end of the fight. Now it Maul tried he would have beaten her, but would still struggle because he's mentally unstable with the loss of his mother and brother and fear of Order 66. But he would beat her in 2 minutes if he was 100%, the same guy that took over Mandalore, or Maul from TPM.

[@Itsmyface]

@JAYLAN YOUNG - STUDENT that was like in season one, when Ahsoka was still a teenager and not as powerful as she is now.

[@GalaxyStudios-co4fp]

Maul was the winner, he had two chances to defeat her but he didn’t want to. He was the superior duelist and that was shown when he disarmed her twice. Ahsoka looked like she pushed him but she was way to tired. It was maul’s overconfidence that lost him the fight. But if he was fighting to kill, he would’ve won.

[@richardkenan2891]

What prevented Maul from defeating Ahsoka? Maul did. He did not win, because his own fatally flawed plan to tempt her to the Dark Side prevented him. He wanted a victory he was unable to claim, and so did not win even the victory he might have been able to win. Maul being stupid does not give him the victory - it specifically prevented him from gaining the victory. Had he had a better plan, it would have been a very different fight - but the only one to blame for that is Maul himself.

[@tori9365]

I think if the fight continued longer than 2 minutes, she would've been in serious danger. It only took Maul 1 min 45 sec to exhaust her and disarm her twice .... imagine if it had lasted atleast 5 mins like when he went against quiet gon and obi wan... she'd be dead

[@fabritz1891]

Thank You.

[@landonpalmer4165]

Why is it so deep to y’all lol y’all can’t just enjoy the fight

[@GalaxyStudios-co4fp]

Landon Palmer it’s us nerds in this dude

[@XxD0m]

I’m really confused why so many are claiming Ashoka won. Maul clearly didn’t want to kill her, he wanted her to join him. He even disarmed her at the end and could have finished her right there. Plot armor was on Ashokas side.

[@Rory695]

Facts, little pussies like to think otherwise

[@y.k5219]

Finally an intellectual

[@ninjacheetah9784]

Aye fr tho

[@bub-games]

He disarmed her, she lost her sabers, disarming doesn't always mean a win. Plot armour is always a factor, however just because you've disarmed, doednt mean they can take a kill, disarming someone is usually because you've got the opponent in a position where they can no longer hold their weapon, however they can still move, and the enemys move wasn't a killing blow, it was a disarment, ahsoka once she lost her sabers, multiple times, she evaded the incoming follow up attack. He then went for the kill and ahsoka utilised the fact he was using staff and countered it. You could say he had an opportunity too kill her, but I don't think he did. Just my opinion.

[@OscarASevilla]

I mean, you cant claim plot armor, because both Maul and Ashoka have plot armor

[@aarontalksculture4946]

It was awesome. Ahsoka is amazing. I love that she has on multiple occasions disarmed lightsaber wielding opponents with her bare hands. She is hands down my favorite Star Wars character.

[@valentinonunes776]

Aaron Talks Culture it’s funny how her last encounter with bo-katan they were punching each other

[@levimoore9479]

We just gonna ignore how ahsoka flat out yeeted maul out the window I can picture maul saying: gonna catch me riding dirty As he falls

[@crestenor]

Force Augmentation helluva drug

[@user-ut1mz4rd6p]

Well he wanted to escape anyway after she refused him, so i guess he just went with it

[@RyansEggyRice]

I think it was a force kick to launch him like that

[@eliminator1472]

Levi Moore he was thinking: “I’m going to put some dirt in your eye “

[@georges.7386]

I think ahsoka pushed him and he also kind of just left. If he was trying to kill her he would’ve jumped back through and attacked her. Maul has given up, he couldn’t recruit ahsoka, and there’s no point hanging around as his forces are losing and order 66 is right around the corner

[@georges.7386]

Maul wasn’t trying to kill her, and he also didn’t seem to care too much about the outcome. He lives for revenge at this point, and his plans to foil sidious had all failed, meaning he has no purpose to live at this point. Plan 1: kill anakin, failed as anakin didn’t show up Plan 2: recruit ahsoka, also failed, so maul might as well quit wasting time and run away or just die cuz he has no chance alone against sidious or all those clones

[@OkIPullUp2915]

Maul could have killed her but didn't want to. He disarmed her and had her at death point at the end if the duel despite holding back. Technically maul won!

[@MogoFromHell]

Like Vader, Dooku, even Kylo vs Rey, they are all toying/trying to recruit

[@Nordrig]

@Tucac Starkiller With like 3 opportunities to kill her. Yeah, he dominated Ahsoka.

[@OkIPullUp2915]

@Tucac Starkiller he did. He could have killed her easily. But he didn't want to.

[@ninjacheetah9784]

@Tucac Starkiller oh yes the fuck he did

[@OkIPullUp2915]

@Tucac Starkiller Don't change the subject.

[@John.Angell]

Definitely a top 10 clone wars episode. The Pong Krell arc will always be up there as well.

[@rayruiz5871]

Please ahsoka's not a Padawan any longer to be perfectly honest

[@DeathScepter]

i can comfortably call Ahsoka as a Top Tiered Jedi Padawan. Yes Top Tiered Jedi Padawans have the skills to be a successful Jedi Knights when they are old enough for the Jedi Trails.

[@Donparishagency]

She is definitely on the level of Jedi knight. It clear Maul underestimated her and did not want to kill her. But she held her own and all the training she got from Anikan shows she matured!

[@DeathScepter]

Keep in mind that if Anakin would have stayed in the Jedi Order, I do think he would have replaced Cin Dillrag as the Premier Jedi Battlemaster. Due to he have gotten a talented teenaged Jedi Padawan to be competitive with a Sith Lord of Maul's caliber.

[@korbinklawitter5796]

As maul said the padawan needed one final lesson. I consider her a Jedi after this.

[@choczynski]

After her acquittal the Jedi council said that she had faced her trial and is now a knight.

[@bxuzabc]

Maul won, I think he was just so paranoid about that future and the fact that he didn't want to kill her

[@andreaswidham3607]

0:58 Not padawan. If she hadn't left the order, she would have been a knight.

[@user-fb5ir3zz8l]

Andreas Widham So? Maul has killed high tier masters

[@TheOnly1Zalo]

@@user-fb5ir3zz8l He also had a tough time vs Obi Wan on Phantom menace, who was also officially a "padawan" on his way to becoming a knight (and who was also, at the time, a form 4 specialist). I think it's very clear that Maul wins, most people would agree on that. But since he doesn't want to kill Ahsoka the duel turns into an exchange to "prove a point", and because of that she gets the chance to recover from several disarm strikes and tough blows. In the end she got the upperhand in very much the same way Obi Wan did on Twin Suns, by using Maul's ego against him (and his long ass staff lol). I think Maul just has a bad time with heights and ledges, it must be an inside joke at Lucasfilm at this point. A great example of this is when Kanan manages to outsmart Maul on Malachor and throws him off of a cliff lol. Kanan never got to Ahsoka's skill level, his master was killed when he had just become a Padawan. He's basically on the same skill/experience level as SE1 TCW ahsoka.

[@user-fb5ir3zz8l]

MS_OfficeSpecialist Maul didn’t have a hard time with padawan kenobi, he was just momentarily caught off guard by kenobi’s sudden spike in aggressiveness and once he recovered and got used to it, he quickly defeated kenobi. Just like how vader was caught of guard by Luke’s sudden spike in power in ROTJ but couldn’t recover and regain his composure quickly because of his cybernetics weighing him down. Filioni ruined maul by making him a blabbermouth villain who gets owned by noobs. Maul was supposed to be mostly silent, cunning and deadly. But filioni took all that away so he can have maul blabber on about his evil plans and typical bad guy banter.

[@boi5375]

@@user-fb5ir3zz8l i think mauls insanity never fully went away after the metal legs being attached thats why hes not the same person he once was

[@user-fb5ir3zz8l]

Yeet Em That’s why he should have never came back, he went from badass to a joke.

[@less2290]

I like how they did this because you can make both sides happy you can argue that maul was the winner if he didn't give her another chance but you could also say that Ahsoka won cuz in the end she captured.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

This is basically the case. Maul could have won and most likely would have had he committed to killing her sooner but the fact is he didn't and as a result Ahsoka actually did end up winning.

[@alexsurles]

This was the closest I've seen them make anyone in the cartoon look like the way maul used his saberstaff in Ep 1. up until ow it always felt like they were using the staff like some super long handled reg saber. This fight flowed like the way Ray park did it. this goes for Rebels also.

[@KillaKong2]

I believe the Phantom Menace is Darth Sidious thus the Phantom Apprentice is Anakin Skywalker. Great breakdown of the duel!

[@OkIPullUp2915]

Correct

[@manuxx3543]

We all know it's jarjar thus the phamtom apprentice is sidious, and the episode was about how that apprentice brought doom to the galaxy

[@tangofett4065]

I love how she’s used her form to land huge, hard shots! Each swing is an aggressive chop but not sloppy in any way. It was beautiful

[@ellter1918]

There are many factors in a fight: experience, training, skill, enviroment, mind-set, luck and many more. If we look purely at the outcome then Asoka won. As they say: "The winner is the one left standing". And, yes Maul is still alive however, Asoka achived her objective(to capture Maul), while he did not achive ethier of his two objectives( to recruit Asoka/Escape). However, if we ignore objectives and the final result and focus on other areas for instance who was more skill or who dominated the fight then a very diffrent picture can be painted. Ignoring plot armor, they both had that. I would say Maul was dominate for most of the fight. He clearly held back hoping to prove a point and convice Asoka to join him(Honestly considering how much he does this I am started to think that Maul is just lonely). As a result of this Asoka came out on top of the first enagement, by kicking him through a window. I would say however Maul was the more dominate figher in this section. In terms of experience, honestly I don't know. Asoka has gotten so much experience over the Clone Wars. however Maul is older and was trained almostly exclusively in saber combat(if my understanding of his origin is correct). He did however have a long period of time where we did nothing other than become a spider for a while(maybe that where he learnt to weave his intricate plans). In terms of, training they are both at a massively high level. Honestly I have rambled for to long, and for that I am sorry. Overall, I would say that the overall victor was Asoka, but the better fighter was Maul and in a straigh fight to the death I would say Maul takes it 8 to 9 times out of 10. However nethier were at their best in this fight, Asoka was, I would imagine, distracted by what Maul said about Skywalker. Meanwhile, Maul wished to recurit Asoka which in the end stopped him from killing her right after disarming her, so he could attempt to recruit her again. this gave her time to collect herself which lead to the result we got. That thats my 2(honestly is a bit more that two with this lengh) cents on the topic. Sorry for any spelling/grammer errors. I wrote this on my phone.

[@joshuasipple5522]

Good thoughts.

[@kalebramirez7327]

I agree completely and it's nice to see someone who remembers Maul was lost, almost mindless and without legs and then became spider-like for most of his years as a sith while Ahsoka was commander in a war fighting many battles making her a bit more experienced than him. During a battle to the death, Maul is the clear victor 8-10. However if we go into Rebels I do believe that at that point Ahsoka would beat Maul in a battle to the death. Basically the deciding factor here is Ahsoka's youth.

[@meghangabriels2670]

Pretty much. Nicely put.

[@masonguthrie1257]

While I totally agree with almost all of your points the fact that you give both combatants a fair amount of credit it struck me as odd how you would give maul such a heavy lead overall I would have been expecting a 6/10 in mauls favor not a 8 or 9.

[@ellter1918]

@@masonguthrie1257 I, having though about this more since writing this comment, kind of agree with you. Although I meant, my 8-9/10 to be a straight fight to the death with nothing else other than thier skill and experiance being the deciding factor(sorry for not making that clear). Even now I still think maul wins that enagement(if will look at both the characters in this moment) but I do think that its still higher than a 6/10. Maybe a 7.5/10. I am basing this of the training Mau recived,being an assasin who was taught 80% lightsaber skill and 20% force abilites( not actually stats there, but form my reading sidious heavily favored his training towards the physical aspect). This should( in theory) give him an edge in a straight death match.. Thats why I think it is more heavily favored towards him. I could be way of the mark with this through. I can however see arguments being made for both sides so. Out of coursesity. What do you think mauls win rate would look like? If they were to fight one on one, in a completly flat neuatral location. Also again sorry if this is hard to read.

[@isaacaccomando435]

I think that we have to take into consideration that this duel would have ended much more quickly if maul had been trying to actually kill ahsoka... Personally I think that maul is more powerful than a lot of people give him credit for... Then again, so is ahsoka but still

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

Maul had 2 good Force power feats in the last 2 episodes. The casual way he deflected blaster bolts with the Force and how he handled the clones in the following episode.

[@RW.40]

@@bjrnhalfhand2258 Yeah, exactly. I feel like people underestimate the force power of Maul.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@RW.40 they really do. He displayed some serious power when he crippled the Venator with the Force. He hasn't used Force lightning (as far as I know) so people think he's good with a sabre but weak with the Force.

[@OscarASevilla]

For everyone saying Maul didnt want to kill Ashoka, remember that Ashoka also didnt want to kill Maul.

[@sorjonen8358]

She did her best, she was outmatched most of the duel while Maul was clearly holding back. Even Ahsoka admitted she tried to kill him and that's why she made that sarcastic comment about how difficult Maul is to kill. Plus she was disarmed and outmatched all the fight, so she was pretty much doing her best for win. Principal difference here is, Maul had several opportunities to finish her during their fight, he choosed not to, Ahsoka didn't have any opportunity to take the upper hand, so much less kill him, except in the end, thanks of him rejecting kill her one more time.

[@spicysnowman8886]

The difference here is someone who is determined to make things right vs someone who'd basically given up now just fighting for that very slim chance to defeat sidious

[@mangy2123]

Oscar Sevilla she couldn’t if she wanted to

[@rashrasha921]

Leijona Oneiroi No that was a joke. Ahsoka explicitly only wanted to capture Maul as shown by her saving him at the end of the duel

[@rashrasha921]

Legendary_ X no she could have at the end if she dropped him. Also if this was Rebels Ahsoka she would have won. Rebels Ahsoka lasted a minute against Vader and TCW Ahsoka lasted a minute against Maul.

[@dblevins343]

Ahoska was only technically a padawan. When they invited her back into the order she would have no longer have been a padawan if I remember correctly

[@umbraemilitos]

"Who really won?" I give 50% odds to the guy was stunned unconscious.

[@charleslee8313]

Had she joined him, would this have been the "balance to the Force" that we got at the end of Episode IX, but just way sooner?

[@lenajohnson6179]

Probably not... We know from Rebels that Maul continues looking for someone to help him... but reasons for wanting to defeat Sidious have never been 'because its what needs to be done'

[@BlankZombie]

Maul literally could have won if he just slashed the thin support link at the end of their fight right before Rex showed up

[@odogg6899]

And she could have jumped soon as he went to slash it. So your statement is useless.

[@BlankZombie]

ODOGG then what. She doesn’t have any light sabers and maul would just slash her or choke her

[@masonguthrie1257]

Mr. Luca LN or she could let herself fall and land fine. But hey it’s makes more sense the way it happened then the way you are trying to make maul win.

[@odogg6899]

@@BlankZombie She didn't have any lightsabers when she stopped his lightsaber attack at the end either and still came out the victor so yea.. My point stands

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@odogg6899 its her plot armour that saved her at the end when Maul disarmed her but I know what you Ahsoka fanboys are like.

[@Xcyper33]

I love Ahsoka. She deserves her own videogame IMO.

[@OkIPullUp2915]

Nope

[@kylecampbell5324]

@@OkIPullUp2915 why no she's a really cool character and has one of the best character development

[@ALUCARD-us3il]

I think both maul and ahsoka would be good choices for videogames

[@kylecampbell5324]

@@ALUCARD-us3il yes

[@kylecampbell5324]

@@ALUCARD-us3il that would be cool

[@freezalo7521]

I think Maul's robot legs diminished his acrobatic abilities. If he still had is organic legs he would have been swifter and he would have had an easier time with evasion and stuff. It maybe a minimal difference but there is still a difference.

[@freezalo7521]

@Jamie oliver is gae yes and you understood what I was trying to say what does it matter. Give me another word that's more correct or whatever and I'll happily edit it for you.

[@mal1362]

Nerfed his agility, but buffed his strength. George is kinda fucked up for that low key

[@cancerousnut7767]

Jamie oliver is gae There’s no other word for it. You could say it “made him less strong” which just rolls off the tongue. Nerf works here

[@freezalo7521]

@@mal1362 Imagine getting kicked by those metal legs, say goodbye to your bones.

[@freezalo7521]

@@cancerousnut7767 Thank you kind sir, those were my thoughts exactly.

[@megathelos4976]

This is some of the best Star Wars period...and Ahsoka's character development is what Rey should have had. Imagine what could have been had Filoni been at the head of Ep 7, 8, and 9; he gets it.

[@benkirkey2451]

Maul definitely was holding back. I’ve seen him much faster and angrier against Palpatine after his brother was killed.

[@keyseronthewire2575]

Exactly... We've seen him fight way harder against Sidious and Kenobi... He's killed Qui-Gon, many other jedi knights, and even took on Mace Windu and Aayla Secura briefly at the same time and did very well. He definitely held back.

[@prezzyvcurrymuncher]

Ben Kirkey exactly maul not holding back can sometimes beat kenobi who is top tier dualist Ashoka is not a top tier

[@percussionfellow6168]

This was a mocapped fight. It was as fast as it was because it was Ray Parks doing the movement.

[@masonguthrie1257]

Youngprodigy Prez I would disagree because she has been trained by Anakin obi wan and today I would find it hard to believe for her not to be close to top tier duelist especially by this time. Also the fact that her own fighting style is probably the most offensive and hard to counter when it comes to lightsaber styles it really does make sense for her to be able to hold against maul. Also she was holding back too.

[@blackmarketgamingTheLukaski]

Mason Guthrie Just because you were trained by good people doesn’t make yourself good. Darth Malgus trained Darth Karrid and she was a poor duelist compared to the Sith Master who trained her and was worshipped by Sidious to be the greatest Sith warrior in the ancient Sith Order. And at least Ahsoka had the determination to capture Maul, even if it wasn’t killing she wanted to beat Maul in order to then him in, the latter was simply uninterested and therefore lacked the motivation like Ahsoka to keep the duel, which was evident by the fact that Maul for a Juyo specialist was the one going on the defensive in the 2nd part of the duel. Let me remind you that if you believe Ahsoka was aggressive, Maul’s form, Juyo according to the Jedi Path Manual Guide have stated that Juyo was the most aggressive out of all saber forms and mastery can even obliterate the defence of a Soresu Master. Maul was noted to be a practitioner of Juyo, Niman and likely used Teras Kasi as his substitution for the second form that is reconnmended before picking up Juyo, the fact that he deflected Ahsoka blitzkrieg fighting style while himself being a master of an offensive form rather than a defensive form shows how Maul>Ahsoka. And the fact that an uninterested, unmotivated Darth Maul disarmed 3 times in the duel, which in the Jedi Path is noted indication of superiority in duels, further demonstrates that Maul could have defeated Ahsoka if he was indeed trying.

[@cade5850]

Ashoka had lots of opportunities to strike maul when he spun to gain momentum, and maul had a few as well as at the end. It seems neither wanted to kill the other and it showed throughout the dual.

[@youwish9365]

I love the way you break down the duel, it is basically how I broke it down when watching it myself. Definitely one of the best duels in Star Wars

[@ilphi08]

Everyone been saying that Maul "dominated" But I don't really see that Maul didn't want to kill Ahsoka, but it was the same for Ahsoka not wanting to kill Maul There were 2 parts of their fight The first part they were pretty evenly matched Maul did win the 2nd part But it was somewhat circumstantial That platform greatly weakened Ahsoka's agility and favored Maul's strength

[@Bacontats]

And he was trying to escape. He knew what order 66 was and would become. Ahsoka was just trying to capture. When one person is focused on trying to escape, they become a bit more psychotic yet also unpredictable.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

I'd agree that it's clearly not the case that Maul dominated this fight but it is clear that of the two Maul is the superior duelist. Ahsoka does win but she's able to accomplish that only because maul deliberately ignores opportunities to kill her. It is a great fight though

[@percussionfellow6168]

@@tiredjediknight3110 Well yeah. Anakin was clearly stronger than Obi-Wan too but we all know how that turned out. Star Wars isn't Dragon Ball. You don't insta-win by having the higher number.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

@@percussionfellow6168 yes... But if you're referring to who is more powerful in the force (has a higher midichlorian count) then having more points so to speak does give you an advantage. Its not a guarantee of success but it does mean the odds are more stacked in your favour even if only slightly. But overall I agree, by all rights Ahsoka should have lost this fight but she didn't because of the circumstances in play.

[@masonguthrie1257]

Sean Lann thank you no one seems to add the terrain in as the huge disadvantage to Ahsoka so it is nice to see someone in the comments noticing that as well. I think the reason people are so against Ahsoka winning is because people still view her as a high level Padawan but in all honesty she surpassed that standered even before she left so it’s not really that much of a stretch to advance her more as she has aged. Also quick question how long has Ahsoka been gone from the order when this takes place.

[@robotchickenpig7730]

Fun fact: If like many others and I, you noticed Maul and Ashokas fight seemed very real it’s because it is! It was Mo-Cap. You can tell by the very “living” movements.

[@felixm8733]

Also, Maul's motion-capture was done by Ray Park, the guy who played him in The Phantom Menace!

[@circledash9813]

GBF freeloader in the credits it say Maul Performance...

[@Masterahsoka]

@GBF freeloader wow you figured this out on your own? or watched youtube videos and read the comments and then posted here ? Lol

[@bro-be3bd]

The Mouse: Commander Kennedy, the time has come. Execute Order 66. Kathleen Kennedy: Yes my lord. *Proceeds to kill everything great about Stars Wars except the Shows*

[@dazo1794]

Obi Wan Kenobi eh I liked last jedi, loved rogue one, and FA and solo were decent. They massacred episode 9 tho

[@jde-jj1lu]

@@dazo1794 Just no, all sequel films were utterly terrible, devoid of logic, destroyed best characters and their legacies and are filled with SJW and political agendas, you cant put them in the same category as 1-6, the last jedi was not a good film, maybe if you like cool FX and a few lasers and maybe chewie's face

[@dazo1794]

jde 4472 just my opinion mate. I thought force awakens had awesome cinematography, set design, introduced a fantastic villain to the series, and brought back the fun element to the franchise after the dull and lifeless prequels, although ye it was really safe and not a lot of creativity. That’s why I liked last jedi for not being a new Hope ripoff and actually taking the story in a bold new direction, and didn’t fall into the trap of remaking ESB, on top of its amazing cinematography, effects, and characters that talk normally and don’t behave like mindless drones again like the prequels. Rogue One was an amazing spinoff that adds to a new hope and has some of the best action scenes in the entire saga, and solo was a good addition to the crime elements of Star Wars, which I like. Rise of Skywalker tho did fuck up massively, and is one of my most hated amongst episode 1 and 2

[@bro-be3bd]

@@dazo1794 I can tell you both are the same person with different accounts.

[@dazo1794]

Obi Wan Kenobi um no?

[@PWNHUB]

Maul never ended her, he kept just taking advantage then backing off. He could've cut the platform off and let her fall. Also, you just focus on Juyo as if the form itself doesn't REQUIRE you to combine 2 forms of lightsaber combat into 1. Namely for Maul Ataru and Niman, he knows Ataru he fought Quigonn an Ataru user...wtf are you talking about maul isnt' used to this? Every Jedi we seen him come in combat with except Obi-wan was an aggressor.

[@masonguthrie1257]

Ahsoka had an even more aggressive form of ataru because of her second blade and her djem so counters so yes it would be something that maul would not have ever faced before. Also Ahsoka could have easily survived the fall through force augmentation if he cut the beam.

[@Amyafish]

I really want to know why Ahsoka decided to change how she held her lightsabers. She almost always held her lightsabers in a reverse grip, and if she did hold it in the traditional way it was never for very long. For almost this entire fight she held them in the traditional manner, something I can’t ever remember her doing.

[@jacklandry6757]

As far as I’m concerned Ashoka was ready for knighthood long before she left the order

[@Tubeman244]

Thanks for the breakdown by the way, you showed that Ahsoka didn't win through plot armor like I was thinking she did.

[@GustavoGplay]

I think Ahsoka is far more powerful than most of us realize. She never got to the rank of knight, but I believe she was about to do so. And she's likely the living form of the Daughter from Mortis. And Maul is highly distracted by his vision, so not likely at his best during the duel.

[@stevenhiller2253]

Exactly. Trained by both Anakin and Obi-Wan and spent most of her apprenticeships on the front lines commanding troops. Fact is when they fight she hasn't reached her peak yet and Maul is way past his prime. When they meet again in Rebels he pretty much acknowledges she stronger than him.

[@jonbragg5175]

You all seem to forget how Anakin's mindochlorian count went down after losing limbs, Maul's probably went down too

[@FatRubberDucky123]

Jon Bragg good point

[@jasonsinn9237]

True, however he's still really powerful even with the cut off legs. His feats in TCW and SOD completely outclass Ahsoka by a huge margin.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

His feats in the last 2 episodes were pretty good. Casually flicking blaster bolts away with the force and easily breezing through the clones using just the force.

[@jonbragg5175]

@@bjrnhalfhand2258 Yes but somehow pirates were able to damage his robotic legs, it doesn't make sense how pirates can shoot better than clones especially with lower grade blasters

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@jonbragg5175 honestly I wasn't trying to use it as an argument or anything I just thought those feats were pretty impressive. I agree that the pirates shouldn't have been able to do that if the clones can't. Or to put another way, the clones should have been able to if the pirates could. I guess you could argue that Maul has grown more powerful since then. People always argue that both Obi Wan and Ahsoka have grown so much more powerful than their early days. What do you make of Maul deflecting those blaster bolts in the previous episode?

[@MrLucsbaron]

This was the greatest duel in the whole of Clone Wars! Ashoka Tano is one of fave Star Wars characters

[@maxamam4653]

Uhhh it was good but not one of the best. Obi Wan and Adi Gallia vs Savage Opress and Maul was much better. Barris vs Anakin even too

[@lordvanazir1007]

4:54 i only just noticed now with it slowed down that Ahsoka's light sabres are connecting with the floor and actually indenting it slightly as shes backflipping there. such a tiny detail but i love it XD

[@Lord_Galvatron]

*reads the question in the thumbnail* Is that really a question that needs to be answered?

[@cristopherderose]

Confusing "entitled" with "inclined", but please continue...

[@jasonsinn9237]

1.) "Ahsoka has been training throughout the entire war. She's earned this." - Fighting droids for 3 years isn't the same as dueling. Maul was specifically designed to duel Jedi Masters and trained in that specialization for 15 years. If you trained 5 times more than someone else then you should be massively superior. Also, Ahsoka hasn't trained or touched a lightsaber in months (but somehow came out of that even stronger and faster than before), while Maul has been constantly fighting the highest-tiered enemies during SOD. 2.) "Ahsoka was trained by Anakin, the strongest Jedi duelist". - Yep and Maul was trained by Sidious, who is far more experienced in the force and would wipe the floor with Anakin during ROTS. - Also do I even need to explain how Yoda is a stronger duelist than Anakin? The evidence should be obvious. 3.) Maul has shown better dueling feats - In TCW Maul defeats Savage Oppress and Obi Wan on multiple occasions. - In TCW Maul keeps up with Sidious in a very fast, intense duel. He even lands a kick on him which is impossible for all but the very highest tier characters. - In TCW Ahsoka runs from Grievous, loses to Ventress, and loses to Bariss. - In SOD Maul fights Windu and Aayla Secura at the same time and says "Now this is a fair fight." He holds his ground and the battle is a stand-still. He also fights Dooku to a stand-still and defeats Grievous. 4.) "Maul lost because of his arrogance" - This "trait" of Maul's is unrealistic and has been a long-standing writers tool (a.k.a. emergency option) to remove him from fights. In every fight he's lost, Maul pushed the much weaker hero into an impossible situation, but then for the hero's benefit, he will suddenly turn dumb for a few seconds and allow the hero to pull an outrageous maneuver that even a youngling could counter. He is the only character that gets this repetitive treatment, and to me that is cheap and makes all his fights predictable. If you make a grave mistake in life will you do it again? And again? And again? Obviously not. Because we all have a basic learning ability. But Maul is robbed of that competence and is never allowed to do anything like a Sith Lord. That is why we expected Ahsoka to win no matter what, because Maul's writing will cripple him. 5.) Ahsoka has the Strongest Plot Armor - The best evidence to see how strong Ahsoka's plot armor is is to watch Rebels. She actually lands hits on Vader of all people (f**king what?) and Filoni introduced time travel to save her. Freaking TIME TRAVEL. He literally tore the very fabric of time and space in Star Wars to prevent her from losing. If that's not the ultimate plot armor then I don't know what is.

[@willnotez6976]

She manhandled the inquisitor though. It was pretty evident that she was a far superior duelist to Ezra and Caanan, she was the closest thing they had to a Jedi master..I'm not sure that was plot armor in that instance

[@jasonsinn9237]

@@willnotez6976 Manhandling an Inquisitor and being stronger than Kanan and Ezra aren't very impressive feats. First off with the Inquisitors - Sidious specifically says in the canon Darth Vader comics that they were limiting the training of the Inquisitors to keep them less powerful, and that definitely showed when Kanan killed the Grand Inquisitor (the strongest one) while only being at the relative level of an initiated Knight. As for Kanan and Ezra - Kanan is a washed up Jedi who doesn't have nearly enough experience or classical training to be anywhere near a master's level, and Ezra is his Padawan and even weaker. Is Ezra strong in the force? Yes. But it never fully blooms into anything beyond Knight level. The fact is, beating those characters is easy and nowhere near the same league as standing up to Vader. They are tiny mole hills compared to a giant mountain. Ahsoka has had no access to Jedi Master training and has only fought Inquisitors since Order 66 while Vader is the Chosen One, has been trained by Sidious, and has been slaughtering Jedi Masters in the comics for years. To make her at his level makes no sense and shows just how blatant the favoritism for her really is. Add the time travel element I mentioned and she has plot armor to the highest degree.

[@willnotez6976]

@@jasonsinn9237 but it showing how much more powerful she was compared to Ezra and Kanan. Before leaving the order, she was probably already at Knight Level, one could make the argument that her ordeal could be seen as her Trial. You don't think she continued to train, become stronger with in The Force?? And Ezra and Kanan already looked at her as a master-sque character. Its not farfetched for her to be able to Hold her own with Vader, seeing that she was Anakin's apprentice.

[@HarryG98]

Will Notez It definitely is far fetched. Because anakin changed his whole duelling style when he became vader so ashoka doesn’t even know the ins and outs of him anymore she was duelling someone she has never faced before

[@jasonsinn9237]

@@willnotez6976 Again, saying Ahsoka's stronger than Ezra and Kanan isn't a good way to compare her against Vader. That's like saying since she can defeat a lvl 10 character then she can beat a lvl 100. She was Anakin's apprentice for 3 years (where she fought mostly droids and barely got into any duels) and when she fought him as Vader it was 14 years later. TreeWop is right Vader had a massively different fight style by then and he had mastered every form of lightsaber combat (confirmed in the comics). Again, Ahsoka fought 1 or 2 Inquisitors during those 14 years while Vader had killed dozens of Jedi Masters and was being trained by Sidious. By actual feats and facts, Vader should be leagues above Ahsoka. I think you're underestimating just how powerful Vader is supposed to be. He's the chosen one, one of the strongest Sith in history and just barely below Sidious. By the time of Rebels he's supposed to be a walking army that can only be defeated by Sidious and possibly Yoda. Sure Ahsoka could have trained to become a master, but simply being a master is not a threat to Vader. You'd have to be far beyond that in the highest tier possible.

[@Anonymousringwraith]

It’s scary Palpatine toyed with Maul and his brother.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Freeze at 4:51 and just look at the frame. What a beautiful story it tells and I feel it completely answers this videos premise. If you don’t see it look at where Maul is staring, and look where the forward tip of his lightsaber is. This fight is over right in this moment. All Maul has to do is barely flick his wrist, an attack he is clearly focusing on, he sees it, she doesn’t. Perhaps all she has to do is lift her foot by sensing it with the force but I still find this frame compelling.

[@logantherock0198]

I like this interpretation of the fight and mostly how u mentioned that at points they didn't want to kill each other. Many people don't understand that it is much easier to kill someone than to capture or disarm them

[@Uncle1221]

Ahsoka's rank padawan is formal. Real skill is knight. Jedi Council had agree with this at final of season 5. And of course she won. Battle does not endure the subjunctive mood. What may be happen or not doesn't play a role. Maul was captured.

[@ioanevans6763]

There's also a bit when maul kicks ahsoka back and she has to hang onto the beam. Maul could've killed her then but his ship arrives so he chooses to leave instead.

[@frankbacolas3206]

@thestupendouswave I really love and appreciate your videos. You do an excellent job. If I may, I would like to politely point out two things in the video that you said which are incorrect usage of the "terms". One is that you said you were "entitled to agree", when the actual saying is "inclined to agree." The other is something you said twice, which was "in an effect" instead of "in effect." I only bring these two up as you do such a great job and I know you take these videos seriously and you want them to be the very best they can be. Thanks for the great videos!

[@Aquila476]

I think maul should have won because he's much more experienced and was trained by sidious to be a jedi killer

[@micheldagenais9650]

TBH I think that Maul did win, considering that he disarmed Asokha at the end of the fight. If he wanted her dead, he could have killed her, but that wasn't really his goal.

[@Aquila476]

@@micheldagenais9650 I hope that was the idea cuz if not it wouldn't make sense cuz she's like 16 and maul is 36

[@fanofstarwars6079]

In canon Maul has simaltaneously held his own against Aayla Secura and Mace Windu. in son of Dathomir issue 3

[@therltayab]

fan of Star Wars , exactly, Mace being the one to beat palpatine( that being debatable on if palpatine let him or not.) Ahsoka was about ventress level maybe a bit higher and had less experience, maul also held his own against sidious for a while, who was the third greatest duelist maybe second.

[@Slfusball]

Bro Ahsoka is trained by the strongest Jedi/Sith ever so its normal that she is on the same level as Maul

[@joshpeck9266]

She’s a Jedi Knight!!

[@mathieu2492]

She's not a jedi knight she didnt go through the jedi trials to become a jedi knight

[@OkIPullUp2915]

So what? That doesn't show anything

[@joshpeck9266]

SithAssassin25 just saying he was inaccurate

[@benfoyle6398]

Windu himself admitted that her journey as a fugitive was her trial

[@frostburn6784]

Ben Foyle More like an excuse thats why she left bc that wasn’t honorably in her opinion towards knight hood. Good observation tho.

[@jjlim3768]

Motion Capture makes fights scene so much more smoother.

[@MarcoKitzer]

Agreed 100% . One of the best fights in history!!! I had goosebumps all over. After obi and Ani, and yoda and palpetine the best fight.

[@joenathan5224]

I was amazed by the movement during this fight. Truly reminds me of prequel saber duels and I loved it.

[@stealthsmoke5780]

This was one of the very best duels with two of the very best characters in Star Wars!!

[@galenschrempel8855]

Maul appears to have been holding back, as indicated by his desire to bring Ahsoka to his side, and could be inferred to hold a decisive advantage in skill and power, enough to comfortably defeat Tano had he been going all out. Ahsoka isn't solely an Ataru user, and has proficiency with Form V, Shien/Djem So, having been trained by Anakin (who mastered the form) and frequently employing a reserve grip emblematic of Shien. Her style isn't solely Ataru, and would most likely have Form V influences (primarily around counterattacking and bolstering her defensive efforts) as a supplement. She still uses Ataru as a primary form as indicated by her integration of hand-to-hand combat, acrobatic fighting style etc. She also employs Jar'Kai (most likely the Ataru variant of it). Maul's use of Juyo, while providing considerable offensive output in an unpredictable manner, would leave him open to counters and create a weak defense.

[@freerealestate6531]

Yeah, maul won no question. If he truely released his anger at ahsoka like he did at the end of the episode when his death wasn’t granted he would’ve finished her.

[@TheAwesome45]

Free Real Estate Yeah he won alright. He’s been captured and was disarmed. Real win. Idiot.

[@STEELGMBL]

@@TheAwesome45 We're talking about the duel in which Maul clearly won. Not to mention he also disarmed her multiple times

[@twalls792]

Jon Hammond she also beat him without lightsabers

[@STEELGMBL]

@@twalls792 She tricked him

[@ZTheTinyTonTerror]

Didn't Maul disarm her like 3 times? If he wanted her dead she would be.

[@Polo-rp9hk]

This is absolutely fascinating

[@Tom-xt1jn]

Everyone seems to think Maul had a chance to kill Ahsoka and let her live for a second which caused Ahsoka to be able to make him fall but I don't see how the same events wouldn't occur if he hadn't paused, when he decided on continuing his attempt to kill Ahsoka once she declined to join him he did exactly what he would have done just after a brief pause. Sure Maul gave her time to think but I don't think that gives conclusive evidence that the same ending wouldn't have occurred if he hadn't paused. As such Ahsoka wins because well, she won. Maul's captured and she is free and alive; without outside interference until he was already defeated.

[@Red_1911]

Maul was very disappointed neither Obi or Anakin showed up. He was depressed the whole fight and didn’t really care. If he was angry he would have destroyed Ashoka. He also didn’t want to kill her. Side note: with this new animation, I would love to see a crazy duel between someone. Maybe maul could fight Anakin??? Idk

[@DoaMastique]

The episode was so beautiful, the animation, shading, choreography. I was just staring at the TV in pure Ah!

[@cyberhawkgames]

I love the name of this episode. On the surface level, "The Phantom Apprentice" is clearly a nod to "The Phantom Menace" where Darth Maul initially appeared on screen. However the name ACTUALLY has THREE separate meanings. Much like how the Phantom Menace represents Darth Maul as this hidden figure that finally unveils himself for real at the end of the movie, but it most importantly represents Darth Sidious, controlling everything in the background. The Phantom Apprentice applies to more than that though. It directly correlates with Maul, as he was the previous Apprentice to Sidious and was "Cast aside and forgotten" and he is struggling to find peace with having been replaced. It also directly correlates with Ahsoka Tano who was the previous Apprentice of Anakin Skywalker but after becoming disavowed by the Council and losing a large part of her life and who she was, she now finds herself helping the republic and council that pushed her aside. But most importantly, the underlying "Phantom Apprentice" is Anakin Skywalker, having been grown and bred in the shadows as the new Apprentice for Palpatine. Both of their previous masters now joining together. IT CONNECTS the world and characters so fucking well. The lightsaber duel has some fucking awesome moments and is action packed with good banter(something you dont get in the movies.) However, the Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Maul fight on Tatooine where Maul finally dies in my opinion is THE best star wars duel in the entire series(And I'm not a fan of Rebels) I think the way it is staged is perfect. It's short and bittersweet, signifying how much both duelists know about one anothers skill, and the amount of time either of them have prepared to defeat one another. Maul gets into his normal stance, and then Obi-Wan gets into his two finger point stance. Maul changes his foot position, signifying he has a plan of attack ready for that style. It isnt until he changes to the stance that his master Qui-Gon Jin uses that Maul changes his foot position once again. Maul has killed someone with this stance before, and he will do it again. Maul proceeds to use the Exact same maneuver that he used to kill Qui-Gon Jin, but Obi-Wan and the Lightside were ready for such arrogance, and so he is able to perfectly counter each strike, and then finally ending Maul's life once and for all. Their feud has thus ended the same way it began. Both revolving a boy from tatooine who will bring Balance to the Force.

[@Stryke10]

“Ahsoka has been trained by Obi-Wan Kenobi himself” 😐

[@abdelrahmanamr651]

She was Trained by Him and Anakin. In this case, he is talking about the defensive style of Obi wan that he taught Her. Anakin Taught her everything else

[@tangofett4065]

Abdelrahman Amr Yoda also taught her quick movements. It showed that in the “Forces of Destiny “ shorts

[@wolic7507]

Wow dude fix your comment.... it makes you look bad.

[@ravenanimations3176]

Mauls new lightsaber kind of looked like a mixture of Savage’s lightsaber and his original.

[@Randoman590]

There's no Savage there, just his own old one with some all-new parts. Savage's lightsaber was far bulkier and had prongs over the shrouds.

[@jasonoliver652]

Great episode but There’s no consistency with Darth Maul I lOVED the episode as a whole but does anyone agree w me when I say that there is ZERO consistency with Maul and his power level when Filoni writes him. I think it’s due to one of two things which I’ll get to. The Lack of consistency I’m referring to w Maul being that in the episode Maul while sitting down on his throne effortlessly flicked away multiple blaster bolts with a single FINGER then choked Bo Katan making him seem so powerful and so badass then he looses in such a crazy stupid way to Ashoka. No one in the Jedi order besides Yoda, Mace Windu and Anakin (by the time of ROTS) should be able to give Maul any trouble at all whatsoever and he gets kicked by her twice and Elbowed to the face and yes he kicked and elbowed her but they were shown as very even the whole time which makes no sense....Then he disarmed her at the end and made a move PAINFULLY akin to the laughable way he lost to Kanan in rebels when Ashoka was disarmed. She had no lightsaber and Maul could have just SO EASILY pushed her off the ledge with the force or done so many other things instead because of plot armor for Ashoka he lunges forward in the most uncoordinated stupid way possible and nearly falls to his death. We’re talking about Darth Maul. The same guy who stalemated SIDIOUS in a lightsaber duel. It’s ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. And then Ashokas line about not lasting long against anakin.. the disrespect from Filoni towards Maul is just insane sometimes. But u have to remember he favors Ashoka a lot and is crazy biased toward her so if she’s fighting someone who’s ur fav character they are gonna get nerfed hard for the fight. Lol remember when Filoni had Ashoka fight Grievous almost equally in season 5..... Grievous the guy who in legends would completely overwhelm Jedi masters and was a Jedi killer... this is a perfect example of what I’m talking about- Filoni nerfing a character so they can go against Ashoka. Also I feel like Im prob the only person who will say this but I didn’t think the motion capture was necessary at all for the lightsaber duel. Mauls dueling was SO SLOW. So fucking slow. Oh my god it was painful to watch it looks like he had never held a lightsaber before....Look at him vs obi wan in phantom menace or against Sidious on mandalor in clone wars season 5 look at the speed and power and ferocity he fights with it’s simply not there at all. My only explanation other than Filoni being extremely inconsistent when writing maul as well as having unbelievable bias for Ashoka is that Maul was holding back and meant to be captured cause he said to Ashoka in Rebels “running away again Lady Tano?” So perhaps there’s another biased fight in store... Just to note something Maul also looked bored in the duel and wasn’t bloodlusted at all and yes was asking Ashoka to join him constantly and she wouldn’t have lasted 5 seconds if he wanted to kill her but it still should not have gone the way it did at all but whatever that’s what Filoni wanted to do so Alr.

[@weeaboo-warrior]

I agree that Filoni has disrespected Maul a lot and has shown a lot of bias towards Ahsoka, but I disagree with the part about the saber fighting being slow. Visually I thought the fight was great. However Maul shouldn't have had much trouble. Bo and Rex should have been helping Ahsoka the entire time. Then it would have still been epic, if not more so, and made sense.

[@psgamer-starwars9477]

Colin Goldstein yh when he lost vs kanan that was fuckin awful

[@coolioajp7552]

I don't know how this fight was choreographed but it looks so much better than any lightsaber fight I have ever seen

[@moose7336]

I believe when he said "time to teach the apprentice one last lesson" he meant that he wanted to teach her that he wasnt lying. They had common enemy and if he wanted to kill her, he would but he needed her help to stop both of their former masters.

[@SHARKVADERS]

WHAT

[@mgboy5622]

This is the first clone wars lightsaber duel that was dramatically slowed down. The animations of the swings and strikes are much more clearly choreographed and intentional. This allows the audience to see the duel in a much more realistic sense which is incredible. In the past, clone wars duels were always fast and twitchy. While entertaining as they were they felt very unrealistic and essentially that’s how I see a non force user would interpret lightsaber duels if they ever saw one. The magic of this duel is it’s realism and it’s beautiful 😍

[@nickmitsialis]

Nice touch-when Ahsoka does the backflips and the blades touch the floor, they 'sizzle/sparkle'. I dont' think I've ever caught that attention to detail before.

[@Travisvader22]

Considering Ahsoka and the clones captured maul I would say Ahsoka won fair and square.

[@twalls792]

Carter Griffith ahsoka won the fight. Maul was trying to kill her

[@therandom_dude]

@@twalls792 If he was , then why did he kept on disarming her? Remember when Savage oppress tried to fight maul , Maul used the same tactics he used during this fight to subdue Savage oppress, also compare the furositiy of Mauls attacks to when he fought Ahsoka again on malacor, Ahsoka seemed like she was having trouble dealing with Maul that time.

[@DurpStarr]

You thought we wouldn’t notice the amazing transition at 2:19 , but we did

[@disastrophe1433]

Another interesting point of the duel is the idea that it's happening at the same time as Mace's confrontation with Sidious. If you listen carefully, you can hear Sidious's scream at the very beginning of Maul and Ahsoka's fight. And at the end, she stares at a shattered window, like the one Mace was thrown through.

[@arc-454]

I feel like Maul won the fight, he disarmed Ahsoka therefore winning the match.

[@Nordrig]

He disarmed her 3 times, and had 3 chanced to kill her but never did. When he finally decided to kill her she was expecting it. Maul is a poor "finisher" because plot armor, but otherwise he won the duel. He just didn't want to actually finish it.

[@arc-454]

@@Nordrig It honestly annoys me how great of a duelist Maul is yet he is made out to be a bad "finisher". It just doesn't seem right.

[@dungeonguy88]

I mean, he disarmed Obi-Wan in their first duel, but lost in the end. Whether it's due to skill or his own poor decisions, this is still a loss for Maul.

[@ratbag3124]

Brandon Flowers It’s not a loss when Maul could have killed Ashoka on multiple occasions.

[@dungeonguy88]

@@ratbag3124 He could have, but Maul didn't. That's on Maul for making that mistake. I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think he actually has a psychological issue that interferes with his ability to finish his opponents. Something cause by the trauma following his defeat at Obi-Wan's hand the first time.

[@steventruelove4876]

I wanted to see Maul the victor, but felt they gave it to Ashoka. I feel Maul definitely lost cause a younger, less experienced light saber dualist criticized him in the middle, sent him out a window, stopped him after losing her sabers, and got him captured. The criticism was say her master could easily beat him. It was also more clear she didn’t want to kill him where it wasn’t clear to me he wasn’t trying to kill her. A dark side user like Maul might prefer gaining an apprentice over death but definitely would hold back from killing. Certainly it was close, but I felt Maul should be better with a lightsaber as he is older, more experienced, and worked hard for this moment. I mean he set this whole thing up with the original intent of fighting Obi Wan and Skywalker, the best of the best of the Jedi (on the battlefield, as Yoda and Mace don’t go out as much.) I feel he may underestimate meeting those two, but certainly not to an extreme level, he would be training to fight both of them. He also killed Qui Gon Jin a long time ago and should have gotten better since then. Ashoka may be the equivalent of a Jedi Knight now cause she leads a Clone force, but she is still young and not actually a Jedi. Her fake equivalent promotion is based on War time need. Ashoka is basically still a padawan who was close but should have done a tiny bit more training if she even stayed a Jedi. Being removed may have given her a better education in life over all, but not specifically laser sword play. I am not in favor of a dark side user, but feel Maul should have earned the victory, but he did not. Maul lost.

[@BobaDavis]

He lost because it was in the script. This is why I don't like prequel fights - We know who can't be killed due to plot armor, so it severely hinders the possible outcome.

[@ojpistorius6369]

man this one was great you broke it down perfectly

[@corbinskywalker]

Clones!

[@MrDavidSalamon]

Excellent job!! One if best light saber analysis I've seen. Thank you!

[@ramonnovoaragon]

Really hoping you'll upload a video in which you analyze in detail the whole episode :)

[@maverickproductions3818]

Everyone claiming “Ahsoka has plot armor”: MAUL IS IN REBELS TOO, so he has “plot armor” lol. My personal opinion is that yes, Maul has more experience, so it makes sense for him to be stronger and more powerful than Ahsoka. However, Ahsoka was trained by The Chosen One himself, along with help from Obi-Wan, Plo Koon, and other Jedi since she worked with so many. Her agility is one of her best features, which allowed her to be on par with Vader. Yeah, Maul disarmed her in the end, but he “disarmed” Obi-Wan in TPM, and Obi-Wan still won, so how is this any different? It’s not, it’s the same 😂 I’m not saying “Ahsoka’s better than Maul.” While I favor Ahsoka more, Maul has certain strengths and Ahsoka had hers; Maul was using a dual bladed saber rather than a single blade with more freedom of range and mobility. There’s many aspects to this duel. I absolutely love it. Both amazing characters had such an amazing fight. My personal opinion is that Ahsoka won in the end since Maul got overconfident as usual, but I don’t want to necessarily say Maul “lost”.

[@eliaselzabri8934]

I mean ashoka was trained by all those jedi but maul was trained by the most powerful sith ever and the most powerful being at the time apart from yoda

[@zandyllatos7473]

Maul won the actual blade encounter. He is the better fighter. But Ahsoka won the fight, because once more Maul was arrogant and didn't think it through enough. Purely on combative saber skills though, Maul takes the win without question.

[@maverickproductions3818]

Elias Elzabri Agreed, I just got sick of seeing comments acting like Ahsoka was incapable or “too young” or anything like that

[@jakebronkala313]

Zandyl Latos I actually disagree. While Maul technically did win the blade encounter, I would argue that Ahsoka AT HER PRIME (near/in rebels) is better than Maul at his prime (season 5 of the clone wars). Ahsoka lasts a while with a prime Vader, which is something Maul never could do.

[@jakebronkala313]

Dylan Emery when did Maul ever duel three by himself. Definitely had Ahsoka and Kanans help. Also Ahsoka could have killed both inquisititors if she wanted. IN NO WAY is Maul even remotely close to Vader’s realm IN ANY WAY.

[@NeverDoubtTheWorm]

Ahhhh I wanted to hear your thoughts on her disarming him. But this was still great

[@fitnessfuncody]

This was my favorite moment, in a lifetime of Star Wars fandom.

[@UnifiedEntity]

Honestly, it should've been a beatdown in Mauls favor tbh.

[@xscar10]

It looked pretty one sided towards Maul's favor to me.

[@andym.3711]

So many incels in this comment section 💀. Yes Ashoka won due to certain factors by that doesn’t make he a shitty Jedi lmao. Maul will always be a badass that doesn’t mean you have to be such a pansy about people preferring Ashoka lmao.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

People are incels because they think Maul won for various reasons? They're incels because they didn't give the win to a female character? Wow you're pathetic.

[@andym.3711]

Bjørn Halfhand hello Incel! 😂😂 lmao dude obviously I’m not talking about that. There are legit so many dudes in the comments talking about how Ashoka is trash talking about how she only won bc she’s felmale and inclusivity and shit. Lmao I don’t have to waste my time explaining to you if you don’t understand WHO my comment is meant to. But hey if the boot fits wear it? 🤷‍♂️. Lmao

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@andym.3711 oh look it's using "incel" as an insult. How cute.

[@andym.3711]

Bjørn Halfhand lmaoooo so you are an incel? 💀😂😂 lmao it’s not a good thing man ofc it’s an insult.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@andym.3711 I give your trolling 3/10. Keep practicing

[@TheMattStunts]

Can we just talk about how Ray Park did the Motion Capture work for this fight? The OG came back and killed it!

[@robertnelson4460]

The fans won. It was a good fight between two star wars characters that are largely left out of the main stream. Ashoka will get her chance to get a live action audience with the Mandalorian, and Maul I hope will get his for real chance. His appearance in Solo was the only thing I remember from that drivel.

[@michaelterrell5061]

I don’t know why anyone is saying maul won Ashoka literally saved his life when she with no weapons at all dodged all of his lightsaber attacks and forced him off of the ledge and literally saved his life with the force Jesus people need to stop hating women in these battles

[@danta2er]

I will set winning aside. This was beautiful. Applause for Filoni and crew!! Also, Ray Park was credited in this episode, along with someone for Ahsoka. Was this motion capture? Either way, magnificent!

[@kennyb1588]

It was motion captured 💗

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

One thing that I find odd about this duel is how Ahsoka makes no use of reverse hand-grip Shien. Bare in mind, she started off as an Ataru/Shien mix practitioner, weaving Jar'Kai into the mix later on. Even in Rebels she made use of the reverse grip, though her style shifted more into Niman by that time, so why this change ? I have a feeling someone in the writing process forgot Ahsoka was the postergirl of reverse-grip Shien in the Disney canon.

[@amransom26]

What? She used the reverse grip multiple times in this battle. Not easy to keep that up with someone as physically strong as Maul, blocking his strikes with a reverse grip could literally break her wrist. Even then, she still used the reverse grip plenty of times in this fight. In the beginning of the clone wars she used it almost exclusively, but towards the end, as she got older, she mixed it up with the standard grip that Anakin was pushing her to use.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

@@amransom26 She does ? Then give me the timestamps, don't just say she does without actual proof.

[@eddiebert6648]

Its funny to think about it. All of the best clone wars duels take place in this exact room.😂

[@thewetzelsixx9009]

I've been doing swordfighting for years now, mainly foam swords (not a LARPer, just use foam weapons since they're cheaper to get and maintain and not lethal so we can actually fight without worrying about hurting someone). I really appreciate what they did with these duels. Especially that they seem so accurate about how a real swordfight would happen while also factoring in lightsabers and the Force. At one point I think I see Maul do a subtle feint low and go high and I just pictured one fight where someone did the same thing to me with a staff-like weapon. These were fantastic fights to watch. I personally think Maul is the slight winner here. But it was pretty damn close.

[@obi-wankenobihasthehighgro6607]

I think I have to default to motivation and intention; Maul demonstrated with the blaster how easy such deflections was to him yet when dueling Ahsoka it still felt like he was holding back. To me it felt like Vader versus Luke on Bespin, I think Maul was studying Ahsoka; weighing/measuring her abilities to see if she was strong enough to help him take on Sidious. Given his ability to sense the Dark Side of the Force and know what was going to happen I say Maul either lost intentionally or didn't care about being victorious- thus perhaps giving him another chance of encountering Anakin and Kenobi before it was too late. Maul knew he would never stand trial- the throw back to Kenobi and Dooku was nice touch too- even felt/sounded like Maul was realizing that Dooku and he were of the same mind (a side note to that was Dooku reached out to Kenobi...). Though Maul hated Kenobi he hated Sidious more; so I conclude that if Maul really wanted Ahsoka dead the duel would have been short.

[@bengeldinger]

One of favorite alltime saber duels

[@Ken.Kaleidoscope]

This fight was soooo beautiful