Aion / The Collected Works of C.G.Jung - Volume IX (Part 2) - Chapters 1-4

[@John-bw9wu]

Your readings of Jung's works and your commentaries are an invaluable contribution and addition to the more serious side of KZbin. Thank you much.

[@Gerardo-ds5px]

His Philosophy, Psychology, and the profound wisdom he was able to harness has been of immense help to me. Thank you .

[@jessewest2109]

Bravo. Thank you for taking the time to do this. With vision impairment. Audio books are my friend.

[@younggrasshopper3531]

So glad you’re enjoying friend! I feel like this knowledge unlocks true vision

[@insanitiesinfliction]

I feel you. When I was little I would read in bed until the words danced through one another. How I ever read through tLOTR I cannot now comprehend, but I did. When I started listening to Audio books instead... you don't need telling I'm sure. If you haven't come across it yet, look up Graphic Audio, the stuff they make is beyond wonderful.

[@kevinjns6]

Thanks, I have the kindle edition and read along with you as this helps me understand the difficult parts of the text. Thank You!

[@nickburton1476]

Best readings heard on youtube. Thank you. Oh to have the French postmodernism read by you

[@michellejimenez659]

Thank you for taking the time to read this to us all. I enjoy hearing your voice. 🖤

[@emperortarzan8431]

Thank you! you've done a great job with this! please keep them coming

[@BackOfTheMob]

Your readings are spectacular! Thanks!

[@11889music]

Chapter 2: 13:06 Chapter 3: 21:40

[@yazanodeh8002]

Chapter 4 56:07

[@pratyushcreed]

Loved the narration. I keep looping the first line often. 😉

[@omg9261]

thank you for your work. it's needed and appreciated 🙏🏼

[@135797531qweewq]

Awesome! I have been waiting for this! Thank you very much!

[@caine3410]

You're welcome, I hope you'll enjoy it. Multiple people have asked for it, not just you - I now see why.

[@societyofgoodness4643]

Darling Cain 💕 Love love love your glorious voice & thank you for doing Aion. Would you be a dear and perhaps put together a playlist for Aion. I’m a miss for the rest of the book. Thank you love ❤️

[@omg9261]

in my opinion your audio versions of books by Jung are the best.

[@caine3410]

Thanks. :)

[@javatahut1914]

Great job hard text to digest let alone realise it's depth.

[@gameaudioshaman]

Great series mate

[@LoveChipbreak]

Deeply moving, so much gratitude for making these thank you

[@jessemontano762]

Whoa!!! This is amazing. A great read ... Thank t

[@christopherrobbins9985]

Distilled brilliance. If more people integrated the concepts of the ego, self, anima, animus and shadow there would be much more understanding and human progress toward wholeness: individually and collectively. 90% of all marriage difficulties could be managed through better understanding of our the anima and animus archetypal forces operating through our respective beings. We need so much more self-knowledge. as Jung said many times..."Man is the origin of all coming evil. His psyche should be studied. We know nothing about the psyche of man."

[@chriskuhl2406]

I like to think of the deeper unconscious as the dark matter quantum mechanics or once called switch coding junk DNA of the psyche, as the creatively playful and emotional unconscious from an evolutionary biology viewpoint is the more ancient associative way of relating to being in the world compared to the more recent logical analysis planning that the conscious mind of the senses performs at the prefrontal cortex. The visible matter of classical mechanics and replication mechanisms by natural selection over populations seem much more aligned towards the conscious logical planning mind than the more unconscious genomic recombination, random mutation by physical or chemical agents, and quantum cosmic tunneling of parallel universes of multiple dimensions also generated by boundary dissolving psycadelic substances, which seem more aligned towards the unconscious.

[@emperortarzan8431]

"That piece of french (which I have no doubt just butchered)" lmao

[@giantessmaria]

thanks, wonderful analysis!

[@yogaroutineect]

I also have been interested in Aion. Thank you much for the good reading.

[@Loveg00dMusic]

In Chapter One, You either missed or are lacking the text of paragraph (12). Text: [12] We have seen that, from the standpoint of the psychology of consciousness, the unconscious can be divided into three groups of contents. But from the standpoint of the psychology of the personality a twofold division ensues: an “extra-conscious” psyche whose contents are personal, and an “extra-conscious” psyche whose contents are impersonal and collective. The first group comprises contents which are integral components of the individual personality and could therefore just as well be conscious; the second group forms, as it were, an omnipresent, unchanging, and everywhere identical quality or substrate of the psyche per se. This is, of course, no more than a hypothesis. But we are driven to it by the peculiar nature of the empirical material, not to mention the high probability that the general similarity of psychic processes in all individuals must be based on an equally general and impersonal principle that conforms to law, just as the instinct manifesting itself in the individual is only the partial manifestation of an instinctual substrate common to all men.

[@caine3410]

Wow, thanks for pointing this out! Also appreciate you digging up the missing text.

[@Loveg00dMusic]

@@caine3410 No problem brother. thank you for blessing us with the audio.

[@joegrant413]

Great reading and highly appreciated! Not to rain on anyone's parade, but how do we know what Jung says is true? Or rather, how do we know which of his concepts have been validated or accepted as true?

[@caine3410]

Excellent question. This, of course, is not just particular to Jung, but in general - how do we know if something is true? This is the great epistemological question, and as such, I cannot go into it in detail, but it it worth noting. Now, keep in mind that each field of study (e.g. Mathematics, Physics, Psychology, etc) is always influenced by the zeitgeist in which it's first conceived. As such, psychology is a fundamentally postmodern school, in the sense that it is relativistic regarding reality itself, and as such, its truth-claims are relativistic. Bluntly put, psychology believes that if people believe something is true, it IS. Most practicing psychologists will unconsciously accept these axioms without being able to formulate them (even though most of the time when they are pushed, they will deny them, and then continue using them as base axioms virtually seconds later). Putting that aside for a second, let's consider the issue of a knowledge space: there's all knowledge that you could potentially know, based on your assumptions and border conditions. In our current age, the scientific method - based on reason and evidence, hypothesis and falsifiability, etc - defines this knowledge space in which you can make truth claims, which can be assumed to be true (unless proven otherwise). E.g.: the Earth is 4.5 billion(ish) years old, speed of light is constant, etc. The issue stems from the fact that certain things - in our case, the study of the psyche - are by their very nature extremely hard to handle by this approach. You cannot create a control group for any given psyche (or at least you really shouldn't try, for moralistic reasons). You can't experiment with the psyche in the same way you can with atoms. In other words, Jung is concerning himself with things that are "hard to study". One might say that it therefore _shouldn't be_ studied at all, but then you're faced with the issue of there being a complete topic that you are fundamentally unable to say anything about (reasonably - you could ofc make up stories about it, but that would not be considered scientific at all). Given that human consciousness is fascinating and most would argue that it SHOULD be studied in one form , this is not a feasible approach. (This doesn't stop some - especially people who treat "science" like a religion - from making this claim, though.) Jung tried to solve this problem by focusing on empirical evidence, and trying to not formulate unfalsifiable claims in general (as contrasted by Freud, who was less concerned by these things). Jung tries to emphasize this in numerous ways (and quite repetitively), claiming that his theories are all scientific. He was very aware of this issue, and tried to remedy it by being "as scientifically minded as possible". It's arguable how well this has worked. Given that Jung's work invites a lot of mystics from the pseudoscientific crowd, the bar is probably not put high enough. All that being said, most contemporaries have not accepted Jung as "true". But keep in mind that certain greek philosophers have had their theories restored/reinstated hundreds, sometimes thousands of years later, or that a heliocentric world view has been considered "wrong" for hundreds of years before being accepted as truth, so this in itself doesn't mean much. Another example (just to piss off even more people than I already have with this): just because modern monetary theory says that you can print money indefinitely without inflation becoming a problem, and that most politicians and mainstream economists are Keynesian, doesn't mean that any of that is true at all, even though it is "accepted as true" by most people. But most people are pretty retarded, and if you keep printing money, you'll end up running into hyperinflation sooner or later, see Venezuela for a most recent example. tl;dr It's really hard to determine what truth is; but Jung is not a prophet and you should read him with a grain of salt (or lots). With pretty much everything in this world, you'll have to make up your own mind, or others will do it for you (without you noticing).

[@lozicrazy]

You test for yourself. Their is no we in understanding

[@TwinAquarius484]

I see exactly why this terrifies Peterson. I think it's very exciting for my work.

[@MayurBande2000]

Thanks this was very helpful!

[@Vanirvis]

Thank-you sir! 🙏 Amazing!

[@kyotosinfinity5959]

How much do you want paying to complete the book?

[@Debunker246]

Thanks for this.

[@taranmurray7046]

Do you have the rest of Aion posted anywhere?

[@caine3410]

Nope, sorry.

[@omg9261]

hey! thank you for your video! but why did you stop after the first 4 chapters?? it's very disappointing :(

[@caine3410]

Well, I wouldn't say I "stopped", I'd rather say I decided to put out what I have finished thus far. Further reasons include: 1) Thematically speaking, the next chapter goes on to talk about the fish symbol, and it felt like a natural point to "take a breather". 2) I try to keep the quality of these recordings as high as I can, so that they end up as enjoyable as possible. This necessarily entails that these videos take a considerable amount of time to produce. Bear in mind that I also have a full-time job, a personal life and a bunch of other interests and long term goals. Inevitably, one of these will suffer if I do make some time to record and produce these videos. Still, I'm happy you liked it. I would like to eventually finish the reading of both Aion, and other books I started, but I don't see how I could afford speeding up the process right now. It will probably happen, but I reckon it will take a good while.

[@briellehunter7233]

Caine just so you know you kick ass, Thank you.

[@reinamocha3221]

Thank you

[@Matthew_OToole]

Carl Jung regard are you on wsb discord ?

[@dollynova7014]

How was jung soo ahead of his time? 🙄

[@aljezur07]

Thank you!

[@Debunker246]

thanks for this

[@MrLuckyMuffin]

Fun to talk to your archetypes 🙂

[@caine3410]

How does one 'talk' with his archetypes exactly?

[@MrLuckyMuffin]

Caine dude ok, sit down or lie down. Close your eyes or just stare at the ceiling so they unfocus. Meditate for a while to clear your mind of excess thoughts, then with intent speak out loud softly to the parts of your mind you want to explore. For example If you want to explore your shadow (which is easy cuz most people at least know it’s moods and thoughts as negative) you would bring those actions and feelings and thoughts to the previously cleared mind. if you entertain these thoughts and imagine them out and critically think about them with clear intent to be neutral until the thought was evaluated, you will find that you have amazingly depraved thoughts and amazingly pristine thoughts that come from your shadow. Once you integrate those thoughts you can properly control and regulate when they get their release, giving you more emotional stability without pushing it down til it erupts. You May or may not have a tangible dialogue with it. But it will be something like strong thoughts that it wants you to know.

[@caine3410]

Huh, thanks for elaborating. Sounds like a sort of prayer/meditation/thinking exercise.

[@raedfaarri2980]

Is the shadow are the memories of the past?

[@ransetruman2984]

excellent!

[@zlatanibrahimovic8329]

1:11:18

[@briellehunter7233]

Jordan Peterson was right. I’m terrified. After four years of shadow work, I suddenly understand the anima and animus and am blown away that my reality of several realities is only part reality while others reality of several realities also part of such reality. 😱

[@caine3410]

Uh.. wh-what? Look, I'm not quite sure what you mean by all that, but for the record, I think it's important to be able to take a step back from all this and realize that ultimately, there is only one objective reality that we all live in. Your _experience_ of that reality does not equal reality itself. Jung himself is very clear on this, though I think it is easy to go astray in his works because they are very deep and convoluted.

[@jamesmoore613]

Hey, umm.... I know it's been a month since you put down this comment, which has me intrigued being somewhat of a novice to Jung. Could you possibly, in the name of spreading knowledge, break said comment down in more layman's terms. Either way thanks.

[@caine3410]

@@jamesmoore613 Have you listened to this yet? "About objective reality and God" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4Hah3amprOrnqM It you haven't, please do, and feel free to come back with any questions you might have. I'm not implying that this will absolutely answer every possible question you could possibly have about this problem, but it's a start. If you have watched it - could you formulate an exact question? Sometimes that's the hardest part, but if you can, I'll try my best to answer.

[@chossenone9508]

her Anima is trying to merge everything. and her Animus is validating that as right

[@meeklynobody3230]

29:29

[@RPGAuthority]

Jordan peterson brought me here.

[@SonAndHeir16]

What's with the pretentious accent?

[@caine3410]

Well, I was considering going for a Texas drawl at first, but I figured that just wouldn't quite cut it.

[@briellehunter7233]

Valus Looks like you can benefit from a lot of shadow work. Your lack of gratitude is proof.

[@LazyNeutron]

Well that's bullshit,dont waste ur time listening it.😐

[@zlatanibrahimovic8329]

56:07