AIR ARMS 'CORE' just a quick chat about the latest airgun from AIR ARMS.(try not to get upset)

[@nigelgriffiths5732]

Nice to see someone being honest instead of the bull just to try and sell their air rifles honesty is best policy

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@nigelgriffiths5732 cheers mate!

[@Airgunfunrich]

Many companies get complacent an d seem afraid to try something different or stray from what’s known.. a bit like bsa with the “takedown” r12 😂 a thumb screw rather than an Allen bolt to hold the stock on ffs!

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Don't get me started on them twats hahahaha

[@garyhaden2390]

Brilliant mate, honest, no holding back, and straight to the point 👍🏻

[@B4nd1tCons]

After watching your video I couldn’t help looking into the 510 Core. Now, whilst I am a fan of the brand and love shooting my 510 TDR, I couldn’t help looking at it and thinking it’s just a 410 with a side lever and regulator! Nothing special, nothing new. Keep the videos coming. Way better than anything on tv!

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@B4nd1tCons I was always a fan, and have shot every popular model, but the past couple of years has been really disappointing from them, and sadly they do not listen nor innovate. It's sad. Thanks for the comment buddy, if you havnt done already, please subscribe to the channel!!

[@B4nd1tCons]

@ subscribed. Their lack of development has also led to me picking up a Daystate and an FX Maverick. Both a pleasure to shoot.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@B4nd1tCons thanks! Yep... I'm an avid AGT fan nowadays

[@JeremyWarren-d8y]

You’re a complete breath of fresh air pal. It’s fabulous to hear your honesty. I’m sick and tired of listening to reviews like AAR Airguns over promoting BSA , when realistically there not that good at all or there is a design issue which isn’t discussed even when known until you buy one . I agree with you makes like for example AGT , kalibre gun ,Weilrauch , reximex , walther etc . I have the smk m16 and smk m16 which have been easily as my bsa guns and often better built for about one third of the cost . British mad3 g7ns really do need to wakey wakey listen produce a better more reliable and consistent gun and definitely stop over charging for products that don’t match cheaper brands for accuracy , reliability and price point

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@JeremyWarren-d8y cheers mate, spot on!

[@coaldust01]

AAR Doesn't do reviews, He makes adverts for new and old stock for Vector air which he has no affiliation with apart from the fact his wife's down as a director of the company, Don't listen to a word that salesman says.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@coaldust01 yep!

[@simonprice4847]

So av made the move from traditional & moved forward & bought a brk pathfinder & av gotta say I fuckin love it. As much as I love me hw110 the pathfinder is a breath of fresh air.

[@simonprice4847]

Aup Phil. I've got a hw110 & thinking of having a 2nd rifle. A brk pathfinder. What's your opinion on them?

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@simonprice4847 I haven't shot the pathfinder yet, I've not heard anything bad about them......

[@simonprice4847]

@Airgunmarksmanofficial thanks for the reply pal

[@Dave_18126]

It’s ridiculous what Air Arms are charging for an already overpriced outdated product. AA have been Stagnant for years. You’ve hit the nail on the head Phil. Innovation is lacking big time…. It’s just laughable now really.

[@alanbray3448]

@Dave_18126 Dave your right , I'm sure if they came out with a bottle gun, it would be good ,as AA are quality product at a high premium. But they won't will they? 80s tech is not acceptable, And calling something ultimate Sporter, well that's a big call.

[@Dave_18126]

@@alanbray3448AA must release something completely new. These reviewers/salespeople are not to be trusted. Especially the premium AA are charging the tooling is already in place but the innovation is sadly lacking. Phil’s right FX AGT are miles ahead and rightly so .

[@davidbooth60]

Well said 👍👍👍

[@billmasen3923]

Try the Brocock Ranger, I rate the Mk2 model as being 9 /10, it would be 10/10 if with the 2 inch longer mk 2 barrel they had increased the air reservoir 2 inches as well. Its a fabulous carbine., Beautifully built and British.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

I will take a look mate.

[@Guns2411]

Bang on👍

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Cheers buddy, I think so!

[@stigg333]

Thought the XTi50 was doing not bad on the target rounds?

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@stigg333 not too bad, but it's not a 100% new design......

[@stigg333]

@@Airgunmarksmanofficial It's only about 1 year old and getting very good reviews, agree they could do with something new but not just for the sake of doing it!

[@mikesharp4033]

@@Airgunmarksmanofficial ..... to be fair, it was in 1954!

[@bigwilly-q7o]

@@stigg333 another fan boy 🤣🤣

[@stigg333]

@@bigwilly-q7o Don't own one and never have but a lot of shooters do rate them so they must be doing something right, or did!

[@CarlMitchell-oy3ly]

Sound observation, it would be nice to have a good British airgun manufacture again to support and be proud of. I’ve always been a theoben fan, but I like the simplicity and reliability at 12ft/lb and realistic ranges that’s all I need. However I do enjoy shooting at range and I enjoy the large shot count from a bottled rifle. Keep up the good work a nice to see you back in action again.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Yeah, good old theoben.... I think they are now actually RAW.... and make impressive guns.

[@CarlMitchell-oy3ly]

Hi, I’ve a early raw and I must admit it’s also very impressive and a awesome stock. Kindest regards carl

[@david.williams2150]

Spot on mate

[@shaunoshea9979]

I love the honesty as too many people don’t say what they want these days incase they up set a snowflake👍👍👍

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

F#£k em mate.... haha. Gun reviewers don't want to tell the truth incase they don't get the free gear that they want..... I don't give a shit, I get offers from all angles. When I say to the companies "I will review your product, I will be brutally honest, and I don't want to be in your affiliate scheme" they tend to cut all contact.

[@alanbray3448]

@shaunoshea9979 When you hear some AA reviewers at gun shows,it makes you cringe, Chatting rubbish about the latest invention , We changed the logo on the rifle !!! Come on ,

[@Phunkitup]

Great content as always. Now, let's hope AA isn't too pretentious and actually does something with all the feedback in the comment section. I think someone should tag them to this video/comments.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Haha, well I have been all over thier social media, sharing this video with them....... see what happens mate!

[@simonwestmacott500]

I think you are right I love my s510 tactical it’s absolutely pellet on pellet at 30 meters and 5 p groups at 40 and 50. But that’s it they have nothing new or different I won’t be buying another they are all the same gun apart from the xti.

[@JustAnotherDayToday]

AA-are you watching this? Stop recycling the S410/510 action and slapping on an AR grip and calling it a new gun. And please stop using the banjo filler probe-with a standard quick connect.

[@127TROOP]

I’m approaching 60 and have never liked Air Arms…they looked old back in the 90’s ffs…..(I had a stealth which looked and shot so advanced for its day and a falcon FN with a custom stock…) been away for 20+ years, just comeback and fell in love with the new DRS Pro/Panthera/BRK Ghost look…..I currently own a BRK Compatto Sniper XR (it’s was a steal for what I paid…) and love it for hunting…I have no interest in guns that look (and in some cases shoot!) like Wembley Meteors…Unfortunately there are also a lot of people my age and older that do like that style so there is still a market for it….for now…..the tactical look and feel, along with biathlon cocking handles, bipods, carbon fibre everywhere etc etc are the future of airgunning. First chance I get it will be a Ghost for me, with lots of carbon….my compound bow was carbon, my arrows were carbon and outshot anything made of bloody wood…..you’re spot on, AA need to reinvent themselves and quickly….keep up these videos mate….airgun companies need to be told by the consumer, not the arse kissing journos of yesteryear…

[@billmasen3923]

Ref Bullpups, I was always told that bullpups were supposed to be shorter, more compact and LIGHTER than their rife counterparts, but for some reason many air bullpups are usually much much heavier.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

When they are done properly, they are mate.... But when they take a rifle, stick it in a bullpup stock and knock up a trigger mechanism it tends to get weighty.

[@sjaakmcd1804]

But the weight distribution is much better on a Bullpup, too heavy at the front, too heavy at the back but you save on weight as there is usually nowhere to fit a heavy sling and no heavy adjustable cheek piece to make them pointable. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ianyanto123]

Well said Phil! 👏

[@BarrieCopeland-je6lh]

Omg! you are funny brother. i aint heard anyone talk about the Air Arms like you just did. you really are top notch. i swear every time i watch you i grin. fresh, informed, experienced,and honest.The same with the HWs their is no evolution since original concept. its akin to the penny fathing , people bought those bikes till the design changed too a more improved version. Its still got two wheels but thats as close to the original concept as you can get. well ,done well said. Fm a car is an antique after 15 years. LoL. be safe my brother.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@BarrieCopeland-je6lh hahaha thanks a lot mate, other guys in the business are afraid to loose customers or to burn bridges with brands..... I'm not fussed, I cannot be bought. I'll keep going, maybe one day I might get a job offer from a gun company 😆 😂

[@BarrieCopeland-je6lh]

@@Airgunmarksmanofficial yeah, dont understand, it myself. Do you think these companies have developement departments.

[@Qwcgvv]

Why they couldn't just regulate the current line of S510's then it would compete directly with the Daystate Revere assuming they didn't increase the price

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@Qwcgvv they sell them regulated and unregulated..... the regulated ones aren't very consistent.

[@CarlMitchell-oy3ly]

I’ve a TX200HC, a prosport and a TX200. They are ok but I prefer my HW97k. But I will say one thing I do like about AA, is they do do a RH stock 😊👍 I’m sick and tired of the ambidextrous crappy stocks nowadays no good for a LH shooter or a RH shooter. just a poor compromise and waste of wood IMOA. So thanks air arms for your old traditional stocks 😊👍 and bring back the S200 please 👍😊 I’ll buy 2 more 😂😂

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@CarlMitchell-oy3ly yes, if it was all about nice stocks, that get redesigned every few years... air arms would be great, but they always overlook what's in the stocks.

[@CarlMitchell-oy3ly]

Agreed 😊👍

[@mickibbett2120]

Very sound advice! I stopped buying their stuff in 2007, but nothing new! Oh by the way Merry Christmas..

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Yep, you did right mate!! Merry Christmas to you too!!

[@jamesmaclaren1724]

Hi fella well said and straight to the point as always l have 3 pcps around the £ 500/£600 mark they all are used for two things pest control and target shooting. Like everything in life l have to work to a budget ( the good wife) so l research before l purchase. AA don't do it for me because of the cost of them and old technology. All my pcps are regulated got good barrels power adjusters (mmm!) adjustable cheek risers etc etc need l go on. Now l am not knocking AA but you have said it all in fact l think the best pcp they sold was the S200 note l said sold l did my research. So what amazes is when company's listen to the people for example smk the cp2 is a co2 weapon which most shooters know about so a lot of people did things with them funny old thing a pcp version was brought out the pr900 same thing a lot of people did things with that then smk stuck a regulator in it so one can buy one of them for the £300 mark. Now l have said this not to create a debate about quality or whatever it is just to say look what happens manufacturer's listen to people and don't rest on there laurels. Enough gambling keep plodding on fella your doing well take care

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@jamesmaclaren1724 that's exactly it buddy..... the manufacturers who are doing well are actually listening.... Thanks for the comment mate. Please subscribe if you havnt done already!!

[@nigelbase1196]

If it aint broke dont fix it...simple!

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@nigelbase1196 if it don't keep up, improve it

[@jonathanhawke2995]

I'm till a fan of the original CZ 200 S, I've shot most of the others, so along with many others I get what you're saying buddy, cheers, Jon 👍Hawkes eye TV 👍😁

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

The s200 or cz 200 was their best gun I think mate.

[@tonyb4326]

I've got one and totally agree.

[@rapalaron6348]

I totally agree with you. I own the S410 and it is a great rifle but the only thing AirArms can come with are special editions and mixtures trying to rip you off. Even the TX200 got so much critics about the bad acces to the loading port and AA did nothing about it. I own seven models HW springers but a TX will not be in my collection. Great video buddy, things must be said 👍

[@philipbooth9755]

Couldn’t agree more, it’s nearly a year since the Indian link was announced, still none in the shops 🤷🏻‍♂️ a lot of rfds are stopping stocking AA- too large a minimum order, out dated design. I’m not young, pushing 70, but still buy several new guns a year, nothing from AA has ever interested me, even bitd, other than than the CZ200 did.

[@marksanderson1332]

Got to agree. I've got a n old SM100 & it will shoot as well if not better than the "new" stuff, & I have tried a s 510.

[@BarrieCopeland-je6lh]

just watched the air arms core review. OMG.!!! Ha Ha Ha, you kill me brother. theyre a shite company, no imagination , no developement. The designers are responsible and i imagine they are old and have the mentality if it aint broke why fix it. well said as ever. be safe.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@BarrieCopeland-je6lh hahaha cheers dude

[@BarrieCopeland-je6lh]

@@Airgunmarksmanofficial pretty much the same with the hw ramge. they get boring to shoot. i love my hw100kt, but my alpex lrf 4k deserves better. im that much closer to the vixen of my dreams. stay safe brother.

[@TheWelshman50]

It's embarrassing when AA can't come up with anything like a knew air rifle!! They will suffer the same as British motorcycle firms who kept on with the same bikes 😮

[@mikesharp4033]

... and the British Electronics Industry; which I am familiar with. They kept to the mantra - "If it was good enough for customers in the 60's, it's good enough now".

[@silverback710]

Pretty sound this tbf but do we think the whole bullpup tactical rifles are going to be it now? someone surely still needs to make the old style rifle types.. I would say companies like air arms and weihrauch need to get up to speed a bit (albeit I own a hw100 and beleive it's a brilliant piece of kit) They are lacking in stock options and bottle conversions for me don't know if people agree or not here but the verry least they can both do is ensure every rifle they sell is beautiful ..and what I mean by that is every one has a beautiful piece of timber way too many weihrauchs and air arms are standard looking the least they could do is get rid of this laminate faze and bring some of the most classy looking rifles on the market

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@silverback710 I think my main gripe is that they are a premium price, but they can't compete with other premium guns at decent ranges.... out at traditional sub 12 ranges (40yards ish) they're good. And then it's the regurgitating old models, without changing a thing mechanically, just swapping the woodwork. It's a real shame.

[@silverback710]

@Airgunmarksmanofficial yeah I here ya mate shame aswell being the price they are i do see a market for them still but I do beleive they need to up their game with fit and finish... Both aa and weihrauch why no adjustable but pads why no bottle rifles why not a higher capacity mag.

[@PFireFly]

Hi Phil, so if i ever get the money for a AA , so when i want a new one ,just paint the stock,hay presto, a new gun 😂😂

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

A 1998 AIR ARMS S410 is the same as a 2024 AIR ARMS S410.... but the newer one has a slightly different bit of wood.......

[@PFireFly]

Good to know, I think I got some pink paint in the shed😂😂

[@alanbray3448]

@PSpringett if it's pink ,Take it to the shooting show, and The lady from the bingo club will mesmerise airgunners or a OAP that's shot catapults in the 80s Will tell people what the design team came up with . New logo

[@stevehales6371]

You are spot on. Where’s AA innovation, nowhere to be seen.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

None at all.....

[@bigwilly-q7o]

@@stevehales6371 100%

[@roberthowe2910]

Yep..they behind the times...can t understand why they not brought out a bottle rifle....

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

It's barmy mate, they just can't keep up.

[@billmasen3923]

To me much of AAs stuff is based of early 80s/90s designs, and AAs prices just keep going up. Its a British Leyland parts bin special

[@jon1801]

Like all the expensive brands they will never learn. I bought a Reximex Myth for £400 last month ( I pest control ) Air Arms are like Daystate, just rehashed old models. Turkish guns are well made, very accurate and you get a bargain. I cant use 22lr in buildings, so sub 12 is the way to go. I refuse to pay over a grand for a thirty year old design. Well said mate.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@jon1801 but, the Turkish guns are all the same basic block, put into different stocks with different air resources.... which is fine for the price.

[@PaulBeCareful]

Turkish airguns are like a blind date

[@jonesspeed]

What a 🔔End.. AA do great dependable Air rifles that do a job,they dont need to keep trying to re invent the wheel to keep there brand relevent or up there sales to the 'I have to have the latest next bullshit upgrade ' They will still be going in another 40 years unlike the other makes you mentioned ..

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@jonesspeed well, no need for the insults, you funking child. I don't care how many air arms you have bought, they cannot keep up with modern guns past 40 yards due to the FACT that air arms spend nothing on development and they are so pig headed, thi king that OAPs will keep buying thier guns, which is not the case. AIR ARMS have nearly gone under once before - FACT. Until they make a modern gun, they are destined to go under.

[@mikesharp4033]

@@Airgunmarksmanofficial I totally agree. I have all the usual AA "suspects", but have not bought another for many years. My last purchases have been, in order: Weihrauch, Walther, Weihrauch, Weihrauch. Sorry, AA but that is ~£3,000 in sales that have slipped through your fingers. Nothing in their offerings enthrals or impresses me. They are doing what car manufacturers do - adding little gimicks and calling it "New and Revolutionary" - how long before we have a S400 with a hook to hang your jacket on?

[@nigelhumphreysfsuk2833]

I had a nightmare experience with AAS510 fac it was so inaccurate i couldn’t even zero it sent it back twice then they offered me £20 back for it and i paid 1k end of the experience i px it for an fx wildcat fac and still perfect after 7 years of use i would never buy AA again i also have a HW100 in sub 12 love it

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Yep, I've heard similar before about the s510s mate. You've done right with the wildcat!

[@heathhalfhill6867]

AA makes a quality product with fine bluing but as you said…same damn design in a different chassis. How about semi automatic how about something out of the box, something really brand new. FX does it, AGT does it, Snow Peak, Nova Vista, and many others but AA is stagnant and moldy IMO. LCS SK-19, Western Airguns, Ed Gun, Donny FL can do it but AA not today! I mentioned this to Claire when she was bragging up India🤦🏻‍♂️. Good God woman…hand the reigns over to fresh blood and modern ideas for the love of God. You sir are stain what everyone else has been thinking for years.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Great comment, thankyou!

[@redauwg911]

very well said👍

[@ADAM-qr7bi]

Always appreciate honesty which unfortunately is lacking not just w/the manufacture’s but also reviewers especially here in the us. Gave u a SUB/LIKE 👍🏻

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

100% correct buddy.... I hate watching reviews fro. People who are clearly paid in one way or another. Thanks for the sub.

[@steveensom7238]

Well said mate we need more youngsters like you giving honest detailed reviews to save our money none of that fanboy crap…… the quest to our perfect rifle is a long one and you only hope technology provides it while you can still lay down and have knees to get up again bugger this old age lol …keep up the great content

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Haha, thank you very much, sir. I will do my best to help the Airgun scene for us all to enjoy in the future!

[@stephenlewis6903]

Well said 🙌

[@DarrenBrown-n3p]

well said , the only way to hold a crowd is to innovate , bring fresh to the table . but to people unaware will still buy these and at them prices crazy , i truly hope you get some feed back from AA phil

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

The best I'll get is a bitchy reply video.... as do anyone whom criticise AA.... and nothing changes.

[@DarrenBrown-n3p]

well i hope its on this thread so everyone van see

[@sellwoodp]

AT LAST 😡Well said sir 👏👏👏

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@@sellwoodp thanks buddy. You'll always get 100% honesty from me!

[@sellwoodp]

@ I’m glad someone in the industry said it ! I had an s410 20yrs ago and could not fault it but as you said they never moved with the times in technology but unfortunately only moved with the price increases and unfortunately cheaper Turkish guns will outshoot them these days for 1/3 of the price ( in my opinion) which means nothing

[@The_Fully_Trained_Idiot]

When I saw the ‘New’ Air Arms Core, my first thought was what you’d say and think, and you didn’t disappoint Lol But seriously, I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Air Arms really does need to get with modern times, look at the market, look at their competitors and get their act together, or they are going to go under 😕

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Haha 100%.... thanks for thinking about me ;-)

[@GeorgeWilliams-t5x]

Tell it like it is.

[@lexluger3334]

It’s a 510 with no shroud Plus I left behind air arms when they changed the 410 to the 510 and it grew out of the top of the stock by 3 inches. They are going backwards. How they outlasted theoben by 20 years is beyond me Core shite 510 shite Galahad shite That 1800 pound thing ( parts bin special) shite

[@alanbray3448]

Ive had AirArm fac rifles from the Start of AA. AA dont take any notice of anyone If you contact them ,youl be lucky if they respond . The latest version ,The Core, Should be The Core Blimey, How are we still getting away with selling old stuff, at Top dollar. Every thing you say is true mate. But old school reviewers are on the take,

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

@alanbray3448 yep, the woman that runs air arms nowadays is so out of touch it's laughable. I'll see if I can get through to them at the shooting show.

[@alanbray3448]

Best of luck with that mate.

[@wiltonlewis5369]

The last truly mew AA product was the Galahad........ hideous.

[@Nick-Antoniou]

I worry what the future holds for Airarms ☹️

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

I heard on the grapevine they were close to buggered a couple of years ago.

[@alanbray3448]

@Nick-Antoniou Thought they had gone into promotion of Big hair products !

[@AdamMcCool-01]

Precihole sums up everything you need to know about AA🤣 I run a Daystate so I’m good thanks AA👍🏻 Webley did the same thing and went down the shitter with their foreign crap.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Yep, they went to Turkey.... worst decision ever made.

[@alancummings7107]

👍

[@mikesharp4033]

Ssssshhh - they have a new product in the pipeline. Don't tell anyone ...... it's going to be called "The Dinosaur".

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Hahahahaha, brilliant

[@grahamritchie8118]

Hi Phil, i like you have no brand loyalty i go for what's good has great quality and value for money.

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

Spot on mate, best way to be

[@bigwilly-q7o]

They don't make new stuff there antiques that's the look lol its all old people that have them its only the fan boys from the clubs that say buy air arms buy air arms I hear it all the time at the club I say try lots before you buy don't just go with the fan. Boys choice

[@Airgunmarksmanofficial]

It's always the clubs with 25m indoors, just punching paper too..... not real world shooting.