The second one I'm wondering exactly how they thought they were going to be refueling a plane with those oscillations going on. As soon as I noticed that they should have turned back to base. They even had an 18 minute window where another plane could have been launched to take that spot, assuming one was fuled up and ready to go.
@tdkeyes1Ай бұрын
Thinking the same. Probably had get thereitis/complete the mission.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
The extreme oscillations were induced by mishandling the airplane. If the yaw damper is malfunctioning you turn it off. The plane can fly safely without a yaw damper. Refueling can be accomplish at a lower altitude where the plane's directional stability will be sufficient unless the yaw is aggravated (as the crew did). The airplane's flight manual contains a detailed section on how to deal with dutch roll, and the short version is keep your feet off the rudder pedals and use only lateral control to correct roll oscillations.
@andrewstackpool4911Ай бұрын
You werent there, were you?
@merlin51h84Ай бұрын
@@gort8203it was stated that the crew were unaware of the Dutch roll, hence why rudder was used.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@merlin51h84 The crew did not recognize the Dutch Roll, but they should have. Improper use of rudder aggravated it to the point that it couldn't be missed. There was no specific training for Dutch roll, but the pilots should have been familiar with the Dutch Roll recovery procedure contained in Section VI of the Dash One flight manual. This points to insufficient knowledge and expertise on the part of the pilots. I once had to apply that procedure in recovering from dangerous Dutch Roll encountered while penetrating a thunderstorm at 50,000 feet in the dark without main electrical power, and it worked as advertised.
@321ssteeeeeve9 күн бұрын
There was a rudder that broke off out of NY just months after 9•11 on an airbus due to heavy rudder inputs. They hit moderate wake turbulence from a 747 5 NM ahead but the FO was way too zealous in his recovery procedure. Turns out his simulator training provided by the airline for wake turbulence had them recover from a 90° bank requiring appropriate leg day rudder input. So when he finally experienced mild turbulence from an aircraft requiring some back and forth rudder input, he did so to the floor and loads in excess of 200,000 psi (2x that required by manufacturer) ripped off the rudder and the plane crashed in the middle of the suburb. What another sad time it was
@InlandOneАй бұрын
Great presentation. I served in a USAF B-52 combat evaluation unit & sadly there were many B-52 losses during non-combat operations. One occurred on 28 Mar 68 where a B-52F disappeared into the Gulf of Mexico with it & its 8 aircrew never found.
@oskar6661Ай бұрын
If you want an even more sobering reality...back in the 60's, the U.S. Navy lost approximately 600 aircraft per year(!) to accidents, mishaps, bad landings, etc. There is nothing safe about aviation and it can never be underestimated.
@tbone2416Ай бұрын
Aviation is extremely safe. You understand that the aircraft of the us army are put under heavy pressure,right? Stop fearmongering.f@@oskar6661
@HDSMEАй бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢
@robertwalton730722 күн бұрын
In the same 1968 time frame, one did some just off-the-deck passes at Bergstrom AFB. Yikes, when I think of it now.
@therealkevinmcnallyАй бұрын
Dear FlightChannel - I love your videos. However, I am legally blind and much of the time. I cannot read the text on the video because there is not enough contrast. Will you please make it more accessible by putting the white text into a black box? Much of the time, the white text is then on top of a video of white clouds or blue sky, and there's not enough contrast. It would be way more accessible to people if you put the text inside of a black box; therefore, it will always be in high contrast. Thanks so much.
@D4rkR56Ай бұрын
You've struck on the one criticism I've had for this channel: I have fairly normal vision and have often wished the text was at least given stroke, basically a black outline around each letter, instead of the pale drop shadow used with the light text over light background. Accessibility makes things better for everyone.
@donaldwilson5693Ай бұрын
I watch a lot of foreign films and I put the captions in English. It is much easier to read when the captions are white text in a black for exactly the reasons you said.
@MiturBinEsdertyАй бұрын
How about watch a channel with narration. Duh 🙄
@ermesdalponte9701Ай бұрын
It happened to me too, you can fix through KZbin setting.
@tonybucca5667Ай бұрын
@@MiturBinEsderty duh...not all of them have narration
@dallasmore6703Ай бұрын
I was a firefighter on Anderson AFB when that B-52 crashed. The base flight surgeon was on board. The crew was practicing for a flyby for the annual liberation day parade and celebration coming up the next day. The plane crashed in very deep water. The only debris that was found that I saw was a helmet.
@hugoglenn9741Ай бұрын
B-52 also crashed in a practice before and Airshow I think in the US. It also has happened to C-130 demo and C-17. The pilots think they are the best in their aircraft because they have have more hours but they tend to be just TTB guys thinking they should have been FARed
@nordan0027 күн бұрын
@@hugoglenn9741Fairchild AFB in ‘94. And haven’t heard FARed since my ATC days back in ‘87.
@PatrickBradley-y2tАй бұрын
The true story is not as said, since training in the KC-135, the Dutch roll is not taught or practiced. As a 7 Level Crew Chief on the KC-135, the Pilot did not follow the -1 in this situation. While performing rudder input, the procedure is to turn off rudder power, then use the rudder pedals to try to control the Dutch Roll with rudder inputs and Aileron inputs. In doing so, his use of the rudder petals with power on, used the 3000 PSI Hydraulic Pressure on the rudder actuator causing the rudder to move quickly left and right causing the Empennage, Vertical stabilizer to break off causing a rapid decompression which caused another section of the fuselage forward to break off sending the plane in a nose dive in (3) sections. Copilot Pickney had less hours flying since she was not flying due to being on Maternity leave prior to this accident. I never personally met her but our children went to high school with her. They will be missed.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
True there is no flight training for dutch roll, but the KC-135 flight manual contains a detailed section on how to deal with dutch roll, and unless it has changed the short version is keep your feet off the rudder pedals and use only lateral control to correct roll oscillations. Manual use of rudder usually aggravates the situation. The extreme oscillations were indeed induced by mishandling the airplane. If the yaw damper is malfunctioning you turn it off. The plane can fly safely without a yaw damper. Refueling can be accomplish at a lower altitude where the plane's directional stability will be sufficient unless the yaw is aggravated (as the crew did).
@Av-vd3wkАй бұрын
Sounds like an inherent design fault to me! What if our cars behaved this way? Your daughters gets killed in an accident because the car tore itself apart while all she was doing was driving it. Yet, since we’re flying in the sky, the pilots are to blame? Crazy world…
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@Av-vd3wk You seem to think you can compare a family automobile that gets to stay on the ground with an aeronautical compromise from the 50s that is light enough to fly at stratospheric altitudes and transonic speeds with a heavy load. A design fault? You mean there was a perfect design it should have had 70 years ago? I have to assume you've never designed an airplane, or any vehicle for that matter.
@Av-vd3wkАй бұрын
@@gort8203 how would I design a plane or car? I’m just 12
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@Av-vd3wk That explains almost everything.
@rachelt2482Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Toeken4212 сағат бұрын
I love the channel been a sub for a few years now, maybe 6 years. Always great content and honors the victims. Miss the short lived commentary a while back, but it wasn't for everyone, which made the channels author/creator stop. Still one of the better content creators and one of my faves.
@FamWayАй бұрын
Two B-52 crashes that shocked the world: the sheer power of these aircraft can't outweigh the risks of mechanical failure and human error. A somber reminder of the dangers faced by those who serve in the skies.
@donluego9448Ай бұрын
Ah, the second crash was not a B-52.
@michaelbedinger4121Ай бұрын
How unfortunate. May all the victims rest in peace 🙏 Thank you very much for sharing this Flight ✈️ channel.
@kamcke83Ай бұрын
so we're at "let's have narration" again. i will enjoy that debate again
@gilvietor1918Ай бұрын
Runaway trim is such a horrible thing to identify in low tim3.
@johnrday202329 күн бұрын
How on earth can something like this happen by proffessional aircrew/ground controllers in the USAF ???
@kiwi_kirschАй бұрын
is 4:50 an encoding error behind the scenes (i-frame blabla) or is it my adblock trying to silence an ad and i'm the only one sseing that?
@phil4986Ай бұрын
The B52 crash seems fairly easy to understand. The rear control system failed. The fact that the crew was ejecting shows they all knew it was very quickly unrecoverable. These B52's are very old but very well maintained but still, there are places where stress goes that can compound failures. The total loss of control of the direction of the jet in an instant is something no pilot ever wants to face. The KC 135 crash ,that jet was acting like it was worn out. Like the airframe lifetime loading had already consumed all of the health in that airframe already. Those tankers put a hell of a lot of stress, every time they are full, on that airframe. The jet was acting like an old truck with a worn out steering system. Wondering all over the sky. The pressure to achieve and complete the mission is high. But at some point, I wished the crew had said. "This bird is sick as hell. We are not dying today, Let's slow her down, gently turn around and land this thing while we still can." Massive respect to all the pilots, crews and maintenance people who keep these jets flying. Rest in peace to those who lost their lives in these tragedies.
@petermbogoro177Ай бұрын
they servived the crash?
@ronaryel6445Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I personally think it is important that military aircraft have the same data and cockpit recorders as civilian aircraft so that investigators can determine as precisely as possible the cause of a mishap. If I am not mistaken, this is now implemented with new aircraft. Retrofits on older aircraft? Second incident: An inexperienced crew, likely not having experienced a dutch roll before, didn't appreciate the danger they were in. I will speculate that a very old aircraft like the KC-135 might also have been more susceptible to fatal cracks. If left alone to fly straight, an aircraft can recover from a Dutch roll by itself, since most aircraft (except for inherently unstable aircraft like the F-117, F-22, F-35 etc.) exhibit positive roll stability. If the aircraft does not recover, the pilot has to use rudder input to counter the Dutch roll and return the aircraft to stable flight prior to initiating turns or rolls. Easy for me to type this on social media; much harder for a pilot to do it properly.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
You do not use rudder to correct dutch roll. The KC-135 flight manual contains a detailed section on how to deal with dutch roll, and the short version is keep your feet off the rudder pedals and use only lateral control to correct roll oscillations. Manual use of rudder aggravates the situation. The extreme oscillations were induced by mishandling the airplane. If the yaw damper is malfunctioning you turn it off. The plane can fly safely without a yaw damper. Refueling can be accomplish at a lower altitude where the plane's directional stability will be sufficient unless the yaw is aggravated (as the crew did).
@ronaryel6445Ай бұрын
@@gort8203 You are incorrect. Please review information regarding basic flight controls so you understand them. Rudder inputs ARE lateral inputs. Roll inputs are via ailerons. The KC-135 is a Boeing 707, and the response to a Dutch roll would be the same as in a commercial 707 aircraft.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@ronaryel6445 You don't know what you are talking about at all. Rudder inputs are not lateral inputs. Lateral controls are ailerons, spoilers, or controls such as differential stabilators that control rolling motions around the longitudinal axis. Rudder pedals control yawing motions around the vertical axis. Doesn't your flight sim game explain these terms for you? The Boeing 707 was not a KC-135. The KC-135 and 707 are different airplanes that were derived from the Boeing 367-80 prototype.
@ronaryel6445Ай бұрын
@@gort8203 I think maybe you're the one suffering from a delusion that you know more than you do. The difference between the 707 and KC-135 are trivial. Look up Dutch roll correction and read up on it. Please don't let your ego get in the way of learning.
@marcomcdowell8861Ай бұрын
they do
@jbenthere627Ай бұрын
Like many viewers, I like it when you link two similar-themed occurrences together. However, it is difficult to watch when you show pictures of the pilots and crewmen who perished. It becomes more personal than just posting their names, ages, and qualifications. Overall, these are great presentations that I always look forward to watching.
@gregwilliamson3001Ай бұрын
So, would you prefer if they just put their Service Numbers on screen? Then it's just some string of numbers being lost and not real, unreplaceable lives. Would that make you feel better? You know by the thumbnail that lives were more than likely lost, so if it upsets you so much, why did you click on it? Just to show you have more empathy than the rest of us???
@DC10_AVАй бұрын
Then I dont think these episodes are good for you.
@bobcatman334Ай бұрын
Man what happened to this channel. It’s all re uploads
@cutterbaconАй бұрын
Was amazing channel before shame.
@Georgiaboy43Ай бұрын
Haven't seen it before or have forgotten
@DC10_AVАй бұрын
@@Georgiaboy43what about the OG”s huh?
@travelwithtony5767Ай бұрын
Too lazy to put in the effort it takes to produce a new video. Headed foe obscurity
@btbd2785Ай бұрын
There were crew memeber that survived this crash?
@johnrday202329 күн бұрын
Whaaat ??? Guam and Krogystan nowwhere near close ???
@brettholden376317 күн бұрын
I think sometimes our glorious Ieaders sometimes lose fact that ancient technology is actually ancient.
@toddb930Ай бұрын
For the B52 story, if the pilots slowed down all eight engines when the place started its steep decent, would the speed be low enough for the ejection system to work?
@beachem1Ай бұрын
Wow. Good question 👍
@toddb930Ай бұрын
@beachem1 I would think the pilots would do that. But maybe the B52 weighs SO MUCH, even unloaded, that it falls like a rock. Something else bothered me in that story. They showed a graph of the plane loosing altitude over a short distance. The line looked pretty straight. If the elevator was angled too far down would the pitch attitude continue rotating eventually to cause an inverted position?
@pasodeminickАй бұрын
Aircraft aging while not investing in the aircraft modernisation.
@tbm3fan913Ай бұрын
Total elapsed time was 34 seconds from 14,000 feet.
@toddb930Ай бұрын
@@tbm3fan913 where did you see that?
@alanwilliams9310Ай бұрын
Surely these pilots had been trained to recognise a Dutch Roll, and to be able to cope. No mention of using the 'Yaw Damper Failure' checklist or descending into denser air!
@timonsolusАй бұрын
We don't know if there was a 'Yaw Damper Failure' checklist...
@gort8203Ай бұрын
The KC-135 flight manual contains a detailed section on how to deal with dutch roll, and the short version is keep your feet off the rudder pedals and use only lateral control to correct roll oscillations. Manual use of rudder aggravates the situation. The extreme oscillations were induced by mishandling the airplane. If the yaw damper is malfunctioning you turn it off. The plane can fly safely without a yaw damper. Refueling can be accomplish at a lower altitude where the plane's directional stability will be sufficient unless the yaw is aggravated (as the crew did).
@daytona3927Ай бұрын
Why didn't they turn back as soon as they saw problems.
@timonsolusАй бұрын
@@gort8203 : OK - and the crew didn’t realise that they were in a Dutch roll, so never looked at the right checklist.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@timonsolus The crew either didn't recognize it as dutch roll or was unaware of the flight manual procedure for it. There is no checklist for the inherent flight characteristics of an airplane. Pilots are expected to know that.
@Normal_robloxian80925 күн бұрын
What game is this I need to know
@JosephTraficanti22 күн бұрын
KC-135 and B-52 are too old to fly. The metal fatigue of flight surfaces is one thing, but the control modules are also made of components that age simply by existing. They fall out of tolerance. There are too many components and electrical connections to adequately test all the combinations of deviations from true operation parameters.
@stephenhall3515Ай бұрын
The tanker crew should have returned to base at the first sign of instability because air refueling requires absolutely fixed stability and predictable wake conditions. During refueling more aircraft are at risk if the primary one is defective.
@hugoglenn9741Ай бұрын
We practiced and had to refuel several times operationally auto pilot off.
@eugeneoreilly9356Ай бұрын
Returning a tanker to base is usually not an option unless there's a standby ready to go.
@kazzerciseАй бұрын
B-52 takes off at 8:59, crashes into the ocean at 9:55. How is that "right after takeoff", or "falling apart over Guam"?
@johnosbourn4312Ай бұрын
The T-34C was never flown by the USAF, at all, so I think you meant to say the T-38A, instead.
@marklindsey199529 күн бұрын
Air Force navigatiors flew T-34C at Pensacola.
@QasimAyub-v7kАй бұрын
Can you make the video of Disaster in Tokyo? (JAL Flight 516)
@Delta-b9zАй бұрын
Seems kinda dumb the B-52 crew couldn’t eject because the parameters were too high. The plane was 100% doomed & they couldn’t eject? 100% crash equals ill take a chance on ejecting!
@FordnanАй бұрын
The wording is highly ambiguous. Did they eject but were killed due to the attitude of the aircraft?
@marklindsey199529 күн бұрын
The seat doesn't care about parameters. You pull the handle, it will go.
@nordan0027 күн бұрын
@@marklindsey1995Yeah, former BUFF EWO here. 32 years ago, I had to have this shit memorized. I remember upward ejection seat needed 0 feet and 90 KIAS, while downward ejection required 250 ft AGL. But upon looking it up five minutes ago, the BUFF tech order states, ‘The maximum airspeed for ejection, up or down, is 400 knots KIAS.’ The fact that it doesn’t state ‘for safe ejection’ leads me to suspect that some limiting engineering issue might arise at airspeeds above 400 KIAS. So, I don’t know, pal!
@cmkeelDIMАй бұрын
If I am not mistaken the KC-135 commander Voss was a childhood friend of another KZbinr, Matt Carriker known as Demolition Ranch.
@barrybarlowe564019 күн бұрын
Ummm... I think you need to study geography a bit more, when considering your titles. Guam, is a pacific island. Kyrgystan is a land-locked nation in Central Asia. Maybe, if the B52 somehow went orbital after a rocket assisted takeoff, you might have debris falling on both... maybe... The distance between is almost 7400 km.
@philipwalton4877Ай бұрын
I wish he’d just keep the captions on longer , I can’t read that fast
@dominichamel4685Ай бұрын
I'm not drinking the coolaid offered. There has to be more to these instances than what has been presented. All the same, my condolences to the flight crews and their families
@jonyjoe8464Ай бұрын
its a bad design that you can destroy a plane with normal rudder inputs.
@HaniNazim-t7sАй бұрын
Flight channel,could u do a presentation of japan airlines flight 123,the single biggest airline disaster,If u haven't done pls do it
@morfeasrellas3561Ай бұрын
Can you do The swiftair flight Flight 5960 and Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243?
@WOLFWARWORLDWAR4Ай бұрын
8:04 TheFlightChannel What is This Sound of this Duration 8:04 I'm was finding that 3 Months Ago
@CleitonPinho-qr7wfАй бұрын
Good afternoon Flightchannel, please do a simulation about the accident that occurred here in Brazil involving 9 crew members in Gramado RS aconteceu no dia 22/12/2024
@moiraatkinsonАй бұрын
What a flimsy plane the second one turned out to be! At least if the video accurately showed the size of the Dutch rolls. Most planes can bank far higher than that without the tail disintegrating 😮. Even the first accident was scary and the crew can’t have had long to act. I wonder they didn’t think stabiliser and cut off the electric trim then trim manually? I love these military mishaps. Those grey planes look so foreboding! You have great music accompanying the video.
@bernardedwards8461Ай бұрын
What steps have been taken to ensure that such accidents are less likely to happen in future? Is there scope to improve escape facilities for a crew trapped in a crippled B52?
@merlin51h84Ай бұрын
Curious as to why the stabiliser issue wasn’t picked up in the pre flight check including checking all controls for free and correct movement. Perhaps the malfunction happened after takeoff. Also, I would have tried to throttle back, drop the gear and flaps plus deploy the brake parachute. May not have worked but do anything just to slow the speed so they could eject. Terrible outcome.
@jaimevargas239Ай бұрын
Horrible, so sorry for those guys trying to eject..
@tbm3fan913Ай бұрын
I understand the first incident since the trim tab malfunctioned suddenly while in a normal flight to that time. I do not understand the second as the aircraft exhibited unusual behavior upon take off and the logical thing would have been to land and check out the cause. Mission delayed and no one dead but missionitis kicked in.
@jimdavis6833Ай бұрын
It's not easy to land a fully loaded tanker.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
This KC-135 had a simple yaw damper malfunction. It should simply have been turned off. You may have to fly at a lower altitude with the airplane has more stability, but the mission can be continued. The mistake was improper use of the rudder during Dutch roll oscillations.
@HDSME22 күн бұрын
There was a flight lost over brezzy piont were I believe twa lost a large liner Their mauel told them to wiggle the rudder left right they did but it broke off Tragic accident the jack shaft broke they supposedly over rotated it!!!!!!
@JohnSmith-pd1fz24 күн бұрын
Funny sort of B52! Sometimes it has only two engines and sometimes it has four and now and again it has eight. If it was that confused a little aircraft is it any wonder it crashed?
@georgediffee483512 күн бұрын
Thought this was a B52 crash its a KC135
@joenop3393Ай бұрын
Just a thought.....with all the Technolgy we have today......one would think that a device that could detect these events could override the plane to save it could be installed.
@dash0173Ай бұрын
Well that requires *a lotttt* more than you think. For one, the system would likely have to be integrated so deeply into the aircraft's software that it would require a FULL redo to get anywhere close to it being functional on a software stand point in a controlled environment. The moment you expose that system to the real world, it'll likely just fail(this is why R&D is SO expensive with planes. you can't research how a plane will operate without it being in real conditions). Next youd need to actually engineer and design what the physical fail safes would be... like how is it gonna actuate the hinges on the control surfaces in a manner that allows it to not fail when the main method of controlling the surfaces does fail? those are only two points out of likely thousands that would have to be addressed to make the plane air-worthy. This is part of the reason why planes are so fuckin expensive
@tbone2416Ай бұрын
@dash0173 Not to mention it wouldn't be very difficult to imagine a scenario where the computer is forced to chose between multiple problems to solve. Let's say an aircraft is banking to the right and also has asymmetric thrust. Obviously the bank is more serious,but would the computer know that?
@dash0173Ай бұрын
@@tbone2416 exactly
@mawj09eas4Ай бұрын
Look, if you’re gonna keep reuploading two older episodes, at least bring the old intro format back.
@TheLiamsterАй бұрын
I swear I’ve seen this video before
@bobbyricigliano2799Ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was posted a while back as individual episodes for each aircraft.
@sarahalbers5555Ай бұрын
Yep.
@hjusnАй бұрын
It looks like it was remastered.
@it1988a13 күн бұрын
First put into service in 1952
@chuckg2016Ай бұрын
The tanker could have saved itself by turning off power???
@chrischiampo7647Ай бұрын
😮😩😭😭😭😭 So Sad
@BSGVC5173LRMCАй бұрын
What song in the intro?
@fly_with_krittiАй бұрын
TheFlightChannelMusic - Sea of Clouds. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amTUhYF3rLKCl9ksi=4JQr3g-Ufb_ZVfNa
@jessicasnaplesfl7474Ай бұрын
Ejection seat mechanisms should NOT have speed or altitude restrictions! Who is responsible?
@cutterbaconАй бұрын
Who is responsible? Human frailty as always.
@topgun1457Ай бұрын
you can eject at mach 2 first and the there is not alt restrictions most ejection seats are 0/0 seat that can eject safely at 0ft but the b-52 is a old airframe and also has downward ejection seats and upward ejecting seats and has hatch's to exit with out a ejection seats so is not worth the money and time to redesign the 52 to take 0-0 seats since that would mean a design of the whole cockpit
@Evilmon2Ай бұрын
>Who is responsible? The laws of physics. Good luck negotiating with them.
@shibukurian79Ай бұрын
he started reuploading again
@planck39Ай бұрын
I'm surpized that the USAF was allowed to operate from Kyrgyzstan since it is part of the Russian Commonwealth?
@hugoglenn9741Ай бұрын
Whole of Afghanistan was mostly flown over Russian for resupply. Manas was the refuel gas and go location (was that Kazak though ) Also operated out of K2
@igorzlobinski738Ай бұрын
All in all the good quality and decent video, but why in the second episode the plane had 4 engines instead of 8 like the regular B52?
@deepthinker999Ай бұрын
The second plane was not a B-52, it was a refueling tanker with (4) engines.
@larryrobertson4099Ай бұрын
Never happened as described. All takeoffs from Guam are to the West, over the ocean. If a Buff disintegrated just after takeoff, which I doubt, debris would have fallen into the ocean. I piloted the Buff out of Guam during the Vietnam conflict so I would know. The oceans prevailing winds forced us to takeoff to the West every time. More... And that was a good thing because the B52G I flew did not have enough power to obtain flying speed by the end of the runway, to get our 488,000-pound beast off the ground even with our water injection. So we, both pilots, had to yank it off and push the nose over and head for the ocean below the cliff just beyond the threshold, to gain airspeed as the flaps came up. Our nav team hated it of course, given that they ejected downwards, and it made the tower nervous when they lost sight of us until our eventual climb out. But we never lost a plane or crew due to that situation as far as I know. BTW, the B52H model that also flew out of Guam, had enough power and had no problem reaching flying speed. And they are the only B52 model still flying.
@HalfpintBenАй бұрын
The comment “B” was a mistake😂😂😂😂😂
@DreadMaximusАй бұрын
I’m confused. Was the first crew able to eject or no?
@Malz777-t9pАй бұрын
No
@necessaryevil455Ай бұрын
media.defense.gov/2009/Feb/13/2001453065/-1/-1/0/B52%20AIB%20Report%20Approved%20version.pdf This is the report; it will give that information. Yes, there was an attempt to eject, but only one seat left 2 seconds before impact.
@DarkFilmDirectorАй бұрын
@TheFlightChannel can you cover the plane crash in Victoria, TX?
@sbelobabaАй бұрын
Try Text to Speech.
@tsqevadeofficalАй бұрын
Bro stop reuploading, make a fictional crash or smth
@DC10_AVАй бұрын
Ain’t nobody wanna watch that
@sarahalbers5555Ай бұрын
I think poor maintenance might have played a part, also
@jimdavis6833Ай бұрын
Poor maintenance would only come into play if there was a previously uncorrected, or incorrecttly repaired problem with the controls. There's no indication from this video that this had occured.
@Armc31416Ай бұрын
One good way to prevent accidents with USAF aircraft in other countries is not to have military bases located in other countries. 🤔
@shagmailАй бұрын
It fell apart over Guam and Kyrgyzstan? I thought Guam was in the pacific ocean and Kyrgyzstan was land locked in central Asia? Did they move Guam? I know if we put too many military forces on Guam it may tip over.
@paulu7751Ай бұрын
These are 2 separate incidents occurring at different times and in diff places with differe types of aircraft numbnuts 🙄🙄🙄
@philippeattackman763Ай бұрын
System malfunction !......ok !....😢😢
@sylvaniathehackerАй бұрын
Notification gang
@LauriedriverАй бұрын
How does that work?
@JVYEАй бұрын
You're speaking English, the subtitles are too irritating to ever watch again or subscribe. Give it a rest.
@jaisabai4155Ай бұрын
I generally appreciate this channel but I am not impressed with your sensationalist clickbait thumbnails.
@jourwalis-8875Ай бұрын
"Boom operator"? Isn´t that a sound technician?
@hugoglenn9741Ай бұрын
Not if you fly the boom
@joebaldwin4810Ай бұрын
@andrewstackpool4911Ай бұрын
So the armchair pilots spew theircrap
@cllucasiskillingjanefonda5406Ай бұрын
youaren't shitting.....
@Malz777-t9pАй бұрын
Very very sad to watch😮😢
@yatinalveАй бұрын
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@crawdadlando4053Ай бұрын
Good ol Govt. Blaming the crew for the whole mishap right at the very end.
@deepthinker999Ай бұрын
Did you think that they were going to blame themselves?
@robert-wr6mdАй бұрын
What's happened to this channel, has it been hijacked by someone else or a bot? It's rubbish now. Not a proper presentation.
@jackmehoffer7819Ай бұрын
Can you say USAF coverup!
@ronaldbrawders4992Ай бұрын
Why was the pilot using rudder to coordinate the turn? That's what yaw dampers do. About the only time you need to use the rudder is landing in a cross wind. How did they expect to refuel with the plane wobbling around like that?
@gort8203Ай бұрын
The yaw damper was malfunctioning and should have been turned off. The plane would not be wobbllng if the pilot had kept his feet off the rudder pedals.
@scottyreeves8179Ай бұрын
WRONG !!! In a normal aircraft, you use rudder with ailerons for a coordinated turn. The B52 G and H model, had no ailerons, so that's what the law dampers wre for. BUT, they didn't correct for "Dutch Roll".. I don't guess you're a pilot
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@scottyreeves8179 This was not a light airplane. In a modern swept wing jet you do not need rudder to coordinate a turn. You use the rudder during takeoff and landing, and asymmetric thrust situations, but otherwise you can keep your feet on the floor. This is true even with the yaw damper inoperative, because there is not much adverse yaw with lateral control input at climb and cruise speeds. The KC-135 in particular relies on differential spoilers and small inboard ailerons for most roll control, as the outboard ailerons are locked out when the flaps are retracted. With little adverse yaw there is little need for coordinating rudder, and the most important function of the yaw damper is preventing Dutch Roll.
@scottyreeves8179Ай бұрын
@gort8203 alright then. I guess I'll go back to tech school and learn more. After all, I was a crew-chief on the B-52 D model. Thanks for the update ! Happy flying !
@gort8203Ай бұрын
@@scottyreeves8179 Ah, the B-52 is an interesting airplane with some unusual handling characteristics. After the D model the small ailerons were removed and roll control was entirely by spoilers. Due to the drag of the spoilers, rolling into a turn can cause proverse rather than adverse yaw. On another note, the fact that the elevators were quite small at only 10% of the chord of the stabilizer means that any out of trim condition of the stabilizer will greatly reduce the pilots pitch authority. I have to suspect the B-52 crash in the video could be related to that factor. I'd love to hear about that from a B-52 pilot.
@ronduncan9527Ай бұрын
He must be running out of money and it’s easier to re upload than make a new video! Gonna have to unsubscribe.
@DC10_AVАй бұрын
8:05 never do the slowed down sad music again.
@americanfortruthАй бұрын
All very inexperienced pilots, it makes you wonder about the ground crews.
@Saab9-3wagongamingАй бұрын
thats no b52?
@vetworkerАй бұрын
Looks like a B52 to me. Get your eyes checked
@OwnedByACatNamedC.C.Ай бұрын
The B52 is the first story on this video, the plane in the second story is a refueling plane, the KC-135R.
@vetworkerАй бұрын
@@OwnedByACatNamedC.C. 🥱
@ForbiddenHistoryLIVEАй бұрын
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@CuteroxxiАй бұрын
Brother re-upload why 🙏 this video already watching ,plz new update vedio updated
@bubsmpАй бұрын
So you can’t eject because it’s dangerous conditions but go ahead and die? DoD moron thought process.
@kaihumphreys96Ай бұрын
This channel stinks we want new episodes not constant reruns
@normanmauchaАй бұрын
Have watched this before
@rudybriskar5267Ай бұрын
Too lazy to narrarate? What's up with the constant airplane noise? D- production. 2:52
@DC10_AVАй бұрын
You mad?
@luca2cАй бұрын
😁😁🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
@jeffies2821Ай бұрын
You always spend way too much time on the aviators backgrounds and never enough time on the results of the NTSB findings and more importantly any actions taken by the FAA due to the NTSB findings on all of your videos
@paulu7751Ай бұрын
FAA and NTSB wouldn’t have been involved in either of these accidents as they involved military aircraft
@jeffies2821Ай бұрын
@ yes I referring to all the videos in general. We need more information about the cause and outcomes and less on the aviators
@scottyreeves8179Ай бұрын
WRONG !!! The NTSB is for civilian aviation !!
@morecrayonsplzmcw4836Ай бұрын
Joke of a channel.
@ComradDaveАй бұрын
I didn't know anyone on this flight
@mattcolumbia7948Ай бұрын
Or any other flight, you liar.
@Mr38thstreetАй бұрын
Neither air crews seemed up to the task of flying these complex aircraft. I don't think we got the full explanation of what caused these incidents. The pilots on the flights seemed too inexperienced to handle there respective machines from what I could gather from the video.
@gort8203Ай бұрын
The KC-135 is not all that complex. The flying skill of the pilots was insufficient to deal with a simple yaw damper malfunction. If the B-52 had a runway stabilizer it is because the airplane is too simple to have sufficient redundancy in that system which would allow the crew to correct the malfunction. Actually the B-52 has a redundant stab trim system similar to most Boeings, so I'm mystified as to why the crew could not stop a runaway and manually trim the airplane.
@CapecodhamАй бұрын
The plane does not need an elevator it has stairs
@paulu7751Ай бұрын
Dumb
@HalfpintBenАй бұрын
B
@LauriedriverАй бұрын
??
@ivanadedikova322Ай бұрын
Môj otec Ivan Štefko bol vojakom už zomrel nemocnici Nové Mesto nad Váhom ❤❤❤❤❤57rokou 2004
@HalfpintBenАй бұрын
This was a mistake
@user-jn1ew8rs8rАй бұрын
THESE ARE THE HEROES THAT TRUMP DISPARAGES
@eaf514Ай бұрын
First2
@trustkillxxxxАй бұрын
nope..your first 2. Im first 1. BYE.
@LauriedriverАй бұрын
First2 what?
@ivanadedikova322Ай бұрын
Môj brat Ľubko štefko citer ❤❤❤50rokou Slovenska republika bol kedysi vojak slúžil armáde zomrel nemocnici sestra Ivana furt žije ❤❤❤ slovenska republika
@ivanadedikova322Ай бұрын
Ja jeho Cera Ivana je operovana chrpticu Žiline mám železa šroby
@ivanadedikova322Ай бұрын
Prežitie krasnich sviatkou vianočných bucte vsedcia zdravý a mier na zemi
@susiedyer3260Ай бұрын
Sounds 2 me that the government was using both of these aircraft and crews n unknown experiments and my condolences 2 all the families
@oskar6661Ай бұрын
Well...that's the stupidest thing I've heard on the internet today. Well done.
@georgecoons6872Ай бұрын
its just plain toooooo old.
@jasonfarnsworth5880Ай бұрын
Yeah, these are amazing videos, but you need to commentate them somehow