Air Jordan 1 Lost and Found

[@r.t.8468]

Ur storytelling and knowledge base for sneaker history makes ur videos so much better than every other youtuber who wasn’t around for retros when they were released in the 80s and 90s and/or didn’t bother to do ANY research. U r the 🐐 in this game.

[@mokokoco4720]

It’s called writing for your video content. He doesn’t pull this info out of thin air 😂

[@r.t.8468]

@@mokokoco4720 You mean, he doesn’t have a photographic memory and he has to Google some stuff? That’s a serious hot take lol

[@stevelambert3418]

In 1985, I was in the ninth grade and walked in the store called the Athletic Attic and bought the OG Chicago. Walked out with a 9.5 and paid 65 dollars. Certain people particularly parents said "you paid what !" And look what we have today. I remember the leather on them was similar to the Mocha Jordan ones.

[@kj3887]

$65 in 1985 is the equivalent of $170 in 2022. So people were paying around the same amount for shoes back then. The only difference to take into account is the resellers.

[@Josuerobles11202]

@@kj3887 very true but now it’s way harder to get shoes you’ll most likely pay resale if you want them

[@DashDrones]

​@@kj3887 you're way off.. $65 in 1985 could buy you 6 grams of gold. Now 6 grams would cost $330. They were so expensive back then, probably explains why the leather was much better back then..

[@DashDrones]

Also the leather on the OG Chicagos was far better than the Mocha 1s. That comment was priceless 🤣🤣🤣

[@kj3887]

@@DashDronesBro I never said it couldn't. The dollar and purchasing power went further back then. But $65 was still equivalent to 170.

[@DRock406]

Finally, my first Chicago! So stoked to finally have these after 15 years of collecting. Ironically my local mom and pop sold my pair I reserved back in 2015. But spot on bro, it's a definite shame they are not supporting those stores anymore, and NO ONE is talking about it. Clear disconnect between the marketing dollars and management priorities. I know they don't care, but still.

[@Kiwaloayo]

@@WebVManReturns .... what?

[@woo_shynen8805]

Facts, well i had these back in 2012-2013ish, but they hurt my feet so i cant wait to get my pair next week and go a half size up. Lol

[@javiervelez9817]

You can’t expect nike, a company the runs on basically almost slave labor overseas to have real sense of morals.

[@kp9593]

First Chicagos. That sucks . You need real Chicagos. Not ones that try to look old when they are brand new

[@DRock406]

@@kp9593 I’ll take $180 over $1500. Thanks for your insight tho

[@nbajwadc]

I'm from the generation of when the Jordan's came out and it's refreshing to see somebody who knows the game. Glad you called out the corporate devil named Nike.

[@Neo5GT]

As a lifelong sneakerhead who loves vintagey things this, the perfect shoe for me. Plus the nostalgia factor: I bought two pair of these in ‘87 for $29 just like the wrapper says and would like nothing more than to have another pair of chicagos in the rotation which I haven’t had since

[@mjo23dan]

So which shoe was made at Left Twix and the other at Right Twix? 😂 But yeah the big issue is quality control. The brand doesn’t seem to be as stringent as it once once pulling pairs and marking them as B grades. Even at the outlets they’ll still sell them at full retail. Nike maximizing every leftover pair making crumbs into cookies.

[@rodwells8577]

They definitely are bro

[@Bornagain_2024]

Finally someone who is an OG in the game who can speak about this subject. Definitely see where you stand and respect it. New to the channel and super dope content man 💪🏼

[@WearTesters]

Thank you 😊

[@icos5]

Pedro Pleitez @weartesters in the best channel to get a real and honest opinion of the shoes Christ not only reviews them he tried them on giving the his true opinion

[@theemperor2017]

@@WearTesters which you prefer Chicago or lost and found?

[@reco36]

I also thought after hearing this story "wasn't it Nike who killed the mom and pop Shops few years back, due to their DTC Strategy". You're the first KZbinr, reviewing this Shoe who speaks it out. I love you both for always dropping real content! Thats why I take the Story with a huge grain of salt. Many many Shops went out of business cuz of Nike. Greets from Germany ❤

[@Streifen1911]

both sides of famiLy are from DeutschLand. much Love 👍🏿

[@thegraciefighter102]

Best reviewer out there. Thanks for always keeping it real

[@WearTesters]

Thank you 😊

[@coreyeatmon5101]

@@WearTesters just saw crazy Pinterest pics of MJ with 2 different backs of 1s. One black one white. Also looked like one mid other hi??????

[@treez5420]

Your cut scenes are GOATED. Always the best LOL.

[@vimos.9996]

Loved the segment where you spoke about Nike having to convince the mom and pops stores into carrying their products and how now it’s the opposite with many businesses

[@Andrew77MUFC]

These L&F 1s are definitely one of the sneakers i am most hyped about this year and without question have to be a candidate for sneaker of the year. Can't go wrong with a Chicago 1 imo , such an iconic colorway on an equally iconic Jordan model. Personally would have preferred closer to the 2015 Chicago 1 pair again or an 85 cut of that but i like these a lot as well. The vintage / worn look for me is becoming a bit overdone and looks like we are getting even more of that trend in 2023 ; but there are times i like it and with these L&F 1s it actually fits the concept very well. Hoping with rumored very high stock numbers and wide availability there will be a lot of retail Ws for myself and many others. As purely collector myself these are going straight to the toe , one of my favorite ever sneakers / colorways (Chicago 1s) and with already a worn / vintage look hopefully means many wear them straight away.

[@AKraus-yb6zz]

I got Exclusive Access & they just arrived today. I agree with Chris, the black leather on the back is too cracked. It’s already flakey & just far different than the white cracked leather.

[@AM-uk7jv]

If I cop, I will wear these as beaters. As the shoe gods intended.

[@maximus518774]

They should all be worn into the ground just like when we were kids.

[@raydiaz9218]

My 1 cements are my beaters 😂

[@SickStyle201]

Ironically I find that they look even better beat up as heck lol

[@MrAceMcGee]

"If I cop, I will wear these as beaters" 😮 Lisan al Gaib! As it was written! * *bows down* *

[@brandonfoley8070]

Ive taken a little break from the shoe game in the past 2-3 months, but im happy with my 14 pickups this year. Its always nice coming back to a classic nightwing video for a pair im interested in, especially that its holiday season. Keep up the reviews, im waiting for he cardinal 7s next

[@Teffy2105]

Dam 14 pickups wow! This only my 3rd pair of the year 😂

[@Draginz]

Completely agree with you re: GOAT. They don't care about any kind of sellers, even ones that have been with them for years. Calling them shady is putting it nicely.

[@Airdog_]

Always appreciate reviews from Chris.

[@panthersfantre]

eBay did that same thing to me 🤦🏾‍♂️. Claiming a shoe I was selling was “highly worn” when in reality I wore it once to sit in my 9-5 desk job. Never had an issue in my 10 years selling shoes I didn’t want anymore.

[@rwilliams6823]

what condition did you list the pair as?

[@labrum19]

There are sellers that give pictures of the actual shoe on ebay. You should probably take more time and talk to sellers when in doubt. WearTesters still my go to 4 review.

[@kenshiroFNS]

My issue is that people are broke and I have big feet. I'm sitting on a load of shoes I want to sell

[@joserod05]

The review I’ve been waiting for…. Nov 19 can’t come fast enough!

[@GraV21]

That’s what I tried to tell people, the jordan 1’s were NOT that popular in the 80’s because Jordan wasn’t “JORDAN” as we know him, yet. Same with the 2’s which is why Nike hired Tinker Hatfield to hopefully bring some excitement to the shoes. I specifically remember the 3’s and 4’s being when people actually started getting hip to J’s. At the time there was LA Gear, Reebok, and British Knights were killing it (remember the Michael Jackson BK Knights? lol) so it had to take something different to get peoples attention. The 1’s eventually went on sale and was adopted by skaters and other “fringe” communities but mainstream the 1’s were not it. It took me until sometime in the 2000’s when I finally started appreciating the 1. I’m pretty stoked to try and get two pair. Need one to wear immediately and 1 on 🧊

[@BobbyHo2022]

Nike sold 130 mil worth of Jordan 1s the first year at $65 a pair. Not popular enough?

[@GraV21]

@@BobbyHo2022 you do realize Nike didn’t sell directly to consumers back then, right? Meaning just because shops bought all that stock, doesn’t mean they were all purchased by consumers. I don’t expect anyone to understand if they weren’t around back then. Numbers don’t always tell the whole story. They sold out the first time they released the 1’s @ $65 a pop because they were released in limited numbers, but when they released the 2nd wave of 1’s, they made way too many and the shoes literally sat around unsold, and went on sale to almost nothing. Matter of fact, the “lost & found” Chicago 1’s that are getting ready to release are a nod to that. By the time they went on sale, only skaters were the only people really buying dunks and 1’s. The 1’s were overshadowed instantly by the 3’s. If the 1’s & 2’s had been a huge success , Nike would have never gotten rid of Peter Moore & hired Tinker Hatfield. Jordan himself much preferred Tinker’s designs as well.

[@Akerleyc1989]

Agreed!!!! They for sure do not check the quality control!!! Goat should only be passing through the best quality pairs for each sell!!!

[@williambecton8833]

Glad U Mentioned About The Factory Flaws, People Will Automatically Go To Them Being Fake... Good Job Bro 💪🏾

[@amirsmith7676]

That Spawn shirt 🔥🔥🔥!

[@gomezjd23]

Very true about mom and pop shops... I remember working for Kenny Corp (not mom and pop) but couldn't wait for the "EKIN" Rep to visit our shop and give us all the info on upcoming tech and shoes. I started working in shoe store in 1986 local sports shop in Santa Cruz CA and the "EKIN" Rep would come and pitch shoes it was awesome! Great job Chris with your videos and bringing back all the memories.

[@ajs7590]

Been waiting for this. Best reviewer in the biz👌

[@MordyVIDS]

man! i have to say i really enjoy this channel's content , from the animations , to imported memes , to quality description , etc . i all-around felt fully knowledgeable of the shoe beginning to end . coming from first watched video being the black taxi 12s that are releasing this saturday i have to say i really am appreciative of you guys' breakdown & insight to the shoes you review here! thank you!

[@MordyVIDS]

also left that sub!

[@WearTesters]

Thank you 😊

[@crewsiete]

finally a review from a real sneaker head perspective.

[@lilsyko3791]

I really wish they would’ve made these the ‘85 version. Can’t wait to cop

[@WearTesters]

Those are coming too. They want all the money.

[@hunderskunder2596]

@@WearTesters chicago 85s are coming? Where did you hear that?

[@turtlezoom11]

@@hunderskunder2596 It's inevitable

[@AlmostLakai94]

@@turtlezoom11 Bred 85s are the one pair of 1s I'm willing to pay decently over retail for whenever they drop 😂

[@christianoster_sole]

The price on the wrap is no joke, I got mine for 25 $ on sale in 1987.

[@Neo5GT]

Same. I got 2 pairs from big-5 in ‘87 for $29 😂. I remember when I saw the ad and thought that’s too good to be true and figured they’d be out of stock but they had em.

[@jasonwolfe3252]

I remember the black and red and royals were in the sales bin at Filene's Basement for $25 . No box , they may have been b grades. No one really wanted any of the other colors but Chicago's. Crazy how much things have changed.

[@aporreco]

Yeah man, Stockx sold me the Carmine 6's with a pink tinted midsole and when I turned around and sold them back on Stockx with their tag still on them, they rejected them. When I complained to them, they banned my account. SMH.....My CC company sided with me though, so it is what it is.

[@WearTesters]

😧

[@mainsourcery]

Wow..how dirty of them.

[@aporreco]

@@mainsourcery No kidding. What's funny though is my CC company refunded me the original cost for the shoes + shipping and I still had the shoes they sent back.

[@mainsourcery]

@@aporreco now you have a pair of shoes to hoop in or wear as everyday beaters.

[@ratboy4169]

It’s good that you brought up some Jordan history in the beginning. I remember watching UNC college basketball with my older brother, watching a young Jordan. Following him through the draft to the Bulls. When the sneakers showed up, we were at the ready. I could go on about the AJ1 back then. I was 12 yrs old going on 13 in 1985. Nike built the brand on quality back then & those days are gone. Another thing nike ruined with their business.

[@rubenj2869]

Sneakerheads saying nah this is not what we asked, let me get 5 pairs 😂

[@aMcConghie16]

I was kinda hyped for them now I’m thinking I’m good, I mean how many Jordan 1 color ways do I need?

[@mainsourcery]

Other OG Highs might have better leather anyway.

[@SneakerheadAD]

My pair also came f***** up on the right toe. Whoever is at the right shoe factory needs to get fired ASAP. I copped for retail too, I don’t wanna buy another pair for resell just to get a better looking shoe 😭

[@TMadara]

Can’t wait for these to brick 🙏

[@toualee1430]

The prices are just going down and down and it’s not even release day yet. I hope everyone who wants a pair get one.

[@arrasido]

Let us all pray🤲

[@josephremonte962]

Ain’t no way these brick

[@russellgreen3656]

@@josephremonte962 there already bricked dude. We aren’t in a pandemic anymore life is going on outside nobody cares about shoes like that right now. We’re literally tittering towards a recession if not already there. If you want a pair you’ll definitely get a pair

[@Neil-qg9cw]

@@russellgreen3656 They haven't bricked lol. Still 2/3x retail. A Chicago ain't 'bricking.' It would need to hit retail price or lower, which will never happen in 2022. I want everyone to get a pair, but this shit is wishful thinking. You need to go all out for this release, because many people will double/triple up. You might even see prices lowest before release, and then jump when people miss out. Just happened to the voodoo lows, jumped £100 in my size

[@markjae6716]

That’s why I like here. Chris explains this kind of info or details. Unlike others shoe reviewer. Keep it up my good sir! Cheers! Mark from the Philippines 🇵🇭

[@asehaki5031]

I was going for the Syracuse dunk restock but after I seen how bad the prices dropped on these and being a native Chicagoan these are MANDATORY!!!!!

[@Cowboys_by_20]

I want a pair so bad . I waiting for them to drop under 300

[@woo_shynen8805]

Try getting them or ordering them at your local footlocker/champs.

[@Cowboys_by_20]

@@woo_shynen8805 that’s what I’m waiting on . I’m nervous if i miss out prices will sky rocket

[@DashDrones]

Point to note. The OG 85 Chicago 1s were so expensive back then even during the sale @ $29.95 Gold was around $10 per gram in 1985, you could have bought just over 6 grams for the $65 retail price. Which is equivalent to more than $330 using 2022 dollars. This means the $29.99 sale price is very close to the $170 retail price today..

[@mauricesmith4081]

And that's the exact price on Goat in my size 9 it's hovering around the 330 mark

[@christophermendoza5334]

@@mauricesmith4081 same and i wear a size 9 😂😂😂

[@rafaelmurallon8624]

The pair you showed and mine are so the same. My right pair has the same defects, crooked and the white leather in the toe box is more distressed than the other. I mean like you said, the left pair is so good and the right one is so crooked.

[@cornbeef9756]

this has been my grail ever since I became a sneakerhead I always used to whatch this video and finaly my parents are buying me them

[@pjmejac10]

Nike did the same thing to skate shops in the early 2000s with the original SB boom. Made them carry all the other SB models that no one wanted if they wanted the hype dunks

[@alexbalahtsis2855]

Dope vid bro love watchin you guys best in the business

[@shadowoftheson5144]

Hey Chris, so sorry you got a janky shoe. Hope you’ll be able to find another pair that doesn’t bother you. My pair just got delivered from Nike. The shoes are beautiful and the presentation is A1. I agree with you about them hurting the mom and pop shops. Also, yes, not really completely faithful to the 1985, but it’s a solid release and nice to own. Anyway, great review as always by both of you…and back ‘atcha…have a good one. 🙏

[@BERT4MIX]

best shoe of all times hands down

[@mdaddy9474]

that credit card scraper! LUL. God I forgot all about those. 😂

[@variandavid377]

The shoes look good and the presentation is great. However the sense of irony regarding the celebration of the mom and pop stores is just toned deaf, Glad you pointed that out as well. ✊🏽

[@SaberKarmous]

Best sneaker channel on youtube!!! Get to know a lot of things that, as a European, I could never have known. Love it! And I sure as hell hope I can buy these! I missed out on the Banned 1’s, and still hurts.

[@WearTesters]

We hope you’re able to get a pair!

[@Rangatology]

As someone who worked in sports retail for 9 years, this reminds me of the pairs you’d get as refunds that you either didn’t have time to make display worthy again, or, we’re too lazy to fill out the claims forms to return to the manufacturer 😂 they were nice, but there was always something wrong with the left or right pair.

[@flymin765]

Geesussss they fine The “ crooked one “ has character

[@cracker135]

Best reviews on YT… 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻. Looking forward to just beating these up bad…

[@Neil-qg9cw]

I've had GOAT pull that bs with the 'creased toe' when unworn, and a tiny natural line. It was a double up I decided to let go of. I just said I wouldn't offer a discount because it wasn't a flaw, and the buyer accepted 🤷‍♂️

[@ronnieoutatime8028]

In most cases, whenever I get a pair of J’s one shoe is beautiful and the other shoe has visible defects. The messed up one is always the right shoe for me

[@bigpete9983]

💯 correct in his comments regarding "Mom and Pop Shops". Should be named AJI "Irony"

[@johnsonmansr77justamessenger_]

I’ve finally got a pair on way supposed to be here tomorrow. I can’t believe that I spent that much money on them. First and my last time doing that for shoes

[@JCBMG]

I got a pair of dunks and the toe box is like that, makes them look totally different while wearing them

[@mohsenslim4395]

Vintage never cost so much

[@Kagano12]

Great video as usual. Love the honesty. Looking forward to the Turtles Since Apparel, ✌🏿

[@Mishka305]

the goat sneaker reviewer

[@hanssteele3024]

I agree that right shoe is terrible sometimes you don't notice it from a distance with imperfections but that right shoe sticks out and is extremely noticeable I'm sorry Jordan brand has to fix issues like that there is no excuse for imperfections like that Nike should be ashamed for letting things go like that

[@choofuyen358]

I had the same issue with my pair as yours Chris. The right shoe is just crooked on the outsole. But man these are fire colourway

[@tylrmrtwbw]

The joke at the beginning about the shoes smelling like mold and not mothballs hits differently now

[@geraldgause168]

⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️’s Excellent honest review with some fun facts thrown in, hands down fav reviewer. Agree with you on the shoe though, I don’t want to pay for shoes that are aged but the packing is A1

[@DAILYCLIPS12345]

Chris, will you be reviewing the women's starfish? I have seen the shape of these and they are the best, better or second to the 1985 cuts, with the wide toebox, straight back, and right swoosh shape.

[@aaronsmith4139]

Yo love your vids, just wondered if Nike have ever got back to you regarding the quality in craftsmanship? I have to buy twice most of the time and that doesn’t even guarantee a decent pair it’s shocking how bad some of there shoes go out! Keep up the good work WearTeasters for the win 🥇🙌

[@WearTesters]

Nike ignores our complaints and filters the reviews on their site where consumer reviews are featured.

[@Jpughsb]

i’ve been waiting on this video 😌

[@itsDayson]

been waiting for this video 🙌

[@LeBeautiful]

I'm painting these 100% once I get em. Not a FAN w/ the crackling stuff. Huge Salute to Chris for what he had to say about shoe tho!

[@rodwells8577]

Salute to Nightwing the GOAT 🫡🫡🫡 thanks for simply reviewing the shoe, and not overhyping them or being a resellers guide. Again salute to the Sneaker KZbin goat

[@cactusjack2264]

Crazy how people really believe these are gonna brick smh these are gonna sell out immediately. They’re already reselling for $400+ and they’re only gonna get even more expensive. The closer it’s gets to release day is just gonna build up hype for the shoe which will lead it to selling out instantly.

[@carltubice3964]

Another great no filter review! Wanna ask about your shirt though! Where’d you got that??

[@Miltnificent]

Luv this sneaker. Great Review as always!

[@flipster7746]

I really Like, that you tell your honest Opinion behind the Sales Thing / Shops. Greetings from over Europe

[@blooey-YT]

My pair came in today and holy damn I love them

[@rickjohnson9856]

The way they’re being released exposes the fact that when people hit on SNKRS it’s not a random thing. If they know who has routinely missed on the big Jordan releases, they can surely control who hits. Special opportunities to those who have missed on 20 plus releases? How do you track that if it’s random?

[@damianwalsh879]

Always great content

[@BlueskiBlue]

I really like these shoes, they have great color way and are just like the originals. Its so dumb that it is always so hard to find Jordans that don't cost $500 or more. Stock X is just over priced. But I just wanted to say thanks for doing a review on this shoe!

[@paulvelez5756]

Pass for me. Wish it was just a straight up original . No aging .

[@rushmanrushman4662]

Just got my pair today. The quality was actually really good on my pair. Such a dope shoe!

[@bsandoval19]

SNKERS app about to be a damn movie for all of us on Nov 19 🤣

[@SpiritofOurLord]

I appreciate the sneaker knowledge! Nike is wild, but I’m honestly glad I’ll finally be able to purchase a Chicago Jordan 1.

[@shannondavis3338]

Great review as per usual Chris! I hope I get lucky with these.

[@shoebrowzer7137]

Cool shoes I hope I hit for retail. Preciate the honesty you deliver in your videos as well 💯

[@youngjd23able]

Big ups for shining light on how the corporation's doing the small business owners and consumers dirty. Still the business practice today they don't care! but yet we still support which is feeding the flame sad 😞

[@THEsoulquarian]

I wish these were a more traditional release but still really, really want these. I hope they're are as easy to get as the 97 Silver Bullets. Wishful thinking, I know. Multiple raffles, here I come!

[@BigAndyTS]

Minor detail, but all OG highs in this new version also have the 85 cut tongue tag.

[@ramirezjanderickclores7927]

Salute to you sir. A great review.

[@taelew]

Yeah; this is a must have! It looks like GOAT sold you an early pair; possible B-Grades. You won't have any problem selling them off. and grabbing a non flawed pair. Great video; keep grindin out good content! 💪I hope every who really wants the shoe is able to grab their pair for retail!

[@PerseoPadua]

Regards everyone!! Great review!! We want Madame Wing!! We need the laughing section at the end of every vid!! Thanks!! Blessings!! 🌺

[@davidgurganus3466]

Been waiting on this one 🫡

[@titoskicks2048]

Great review like always👊🏽

[@victorfernandez6432]

hi! greetings from Madrid. I am turning 50 next neek. I was lucky enough to have one pair of these back in the year they released and wore them til they fell apart. About 18-20 years ago (cannot remember precisely) I bought an used (but in very good shape) og 1985 pair that I keep in a showcase in my living room. I did my homework back then so I think I bought the real deal but, is there anyway I can confirm that and their value now (not going to sell, just for the sake of it)? Thanks Love your videos!

[@WearTesters]

You can try to connect with an OG collector online and see if they’ll take a look at pictures of your shoe to see condition etc and hopefully get the information you’re looking for.

[@victorfernandez6432]

@@WearTesters thanks!

[@TheSoundsOfTheSTown1]

Been waiting for this review 😮

[@visionwavey]

Back dooring is the problem! Why complain about something that will literally cause the worse type of re sell

[@d0minant24]

Will try to get a pair but won’t pickup aftermarket if I don’t hit. Really not feeling the cracked leather areas and I do have the 2015 which I think looks better.

[@Dj_rueboi]

I’m praying to get A W! Dope video again and again !

[@thegrabbindragon9834]

I just want the shoes so I can use the box for my 1994 pair and beat the 2022 pair lol

[@chrishans8120]

Hi Chris! Hi Jodi! Just gotta get this out the way but Im huge fans of yall and what yall do and Jodi's silly comedic vibe makes everything 100. Anyways I hit on the L&F 2x, one on JD EA and the other on SNKRS app, both sz 12. When i picked up my pair from my jd store, i noticed my right shoe had a wobble and remembered your pair had one too so i had to come back to this video and sure enough your right wobbled like mine. Well my snkrs pair just got delivered right now and first thing i did was to check the right shoe and sure enough that shoe wobbled and was uneven as hell. I'm not gonna be too mad since this whole drop was insane and tons of people took L's but the quality is still disappointing. Anyways just wanted to share that with yall so you know you aren't alone Chris =)

[@chrishans8120]

Edit Jodi's laugh and the face you make Chris is also the cherry on top to the silly comedy vibe I love from yalls Videos. Best snkr channel ever.

[@akindoffreshmadnessoz7542]

It seems like Chris liked them but the vibe was off on this video. Maybe it was the small biz vs Nike drama or the leaning toe box…I’ve seen him get more hype about a Reebok question.😂😂

[@ThaGreatWhite813]

Great video! I haven't gotten a pair in close to a decade. Are in store raffles still a thing, and if not what methods should I go about for trying to secure a pair?