Air to Spring conversion - Land Rover Discovery 3 (2005) Part 1

Air to spring conversion in a Land Rover Dicovery 3 (2005 model)
Some people are curious about what is involved in an air suspension to coil spring suspension swap, this video is a rough guide detailing what it takes to get the job done but it is not quite exactly a step by step how-to. But I hope you enjoy!
Part 2: • Air to Spring conversi...

[@markwilliams2830]

Hello Max .Good to see you again with this very interesting and well detailed Video .Thanks.I always enjoy your methodical approach.You do things real world and how to get around awkward bits.You dont just bash everything to bits!Enjoy the new ride !!!

[@maxautouk]

Hi Mark nice to hear from you! I try my best not to butcher things!

[@landroverSV]

I like the ability to control the suspension according to my surroundings that's why I bought the Discovery 3 even with it's sometimes pain in the butt gremlins. Cheers 🇬🇧 🍻

[@maxautouk]

The suspension control and transmision control modules are really well engineered, and if the customer is willing to spend the money fixing them then it's always my recommendation, I think the trouble with those systems really stems from main dealers not wanting to part with technical information. I pay for E3 Technical subsctriptions which is basically rebranded main dealer information, and if the information I need isn't there they'll request it directly from the main dealer which is awesome. But even then JLR are one of the few companies that just refuse to release some information. Makes it very hard to accurately diagnose complex systems which is a shame and is what pushes many people to go with coil spring suspension just to get it back on the road!

[@javiercabello3814]

That's really a great video max I appreciate I got one of them same problem

[@maxautouk]

Many people say the springs are a trade off and the ride is terrible but for this customer I thought the dunlop kit him proud and I've driven them with air struts and with mcpherson spring struts - never noticed a difference in the ride quality

[@rosewooddetailing219]

Is it the 2” or standard hight you have fitted

[@maxautouk]

Standard

[@JACKSTERUK]

...Great detailed video Max , how much were the replacement manual springs and bypass module chum ?

[@maxautouk]

If memory serves correctly I think between 6/700

[@jamiejones7058]

Hi max great job there and explanation just wondering how dk you get around the wiring etc does it throw up faults?

[@maxautouk]

Hi Jamie, I have a video showing the installation procedure for disarming the air suspension control module, you can find it on my channel, hope that helps 😁

[@jamiejones7058]

Perfect I'll have a look now it's a job I'll defo do eventually just looking the steps through atm! What suspension did you go for?

[@maxautouk]

I fitted for this chap a Dunlop kit, its very good indeed!

[@kibathinduati5285]

Where can I get the conversion kit for a range Rover sport tdv6?

[@maxautouk]

Go to Dunlop, the range rover and the land rover are identicle in terms of suspension

[@karladlington3112]

Hi Mate, Great vid, thank you, going to tackle this myself as I am tired of spending money chasing air suspension, while I am there I would like to replace the pinch bolts and top bolts etc with new, £800 on new suspension so a few more quid on some nuts and bolts seems logical to me. any ideas of what I would need? a google search is hard to figure out exactly...

[@maxautouk]

I think if you got a few nuts for the strut tops that would be a good idea, other than that it's plain sailing the rest are big big bolts with coarse threads so should be OK

[@karladlington3112]

@@maxautouk I don't suppose you know the sizes at all mate?

[@maxautouk]

@@karladlington3112 the top nuts i believe are 15mm and I'm afraid i cant recall the rest

[@noelcahill6707]

Hi mate im in ireland iv a range rover sport im looking to convert to coils who local in uk supplies the kits

[@maxautouk]

Hi we are based in Ireland in County Fermanagh - we order our Dunlop kits from britpart uk

[@noelcahill6707]

@@maxautouk thank you very much does that kit come with the ecu flash thing to take your error codes off

[@maxautouk]

Yea it does!

[@peterdaly3957]

Thanks so much for showin g us how to do all the hard stuff. Are there heavy duty ones for farming ?

[@maxautouk]

I'd say this one is heavy duty and perfectly suitable for farm life 😊

[@peterdaly3957]

Just ordering now from brit part Northern Ireland. Trillick auto. Thanks. And be safe working under stuff!

[@maxautouk]

Not far from me! Hope you get on OK

[@daniellloyd831]

Really good video! How do you find the ride and handling on coils compared with air suspension?

[@maxautouk]

It has a slightly harsher return on extreme terrain (over 100mm potholes or deviations in the surface) but other than that I don’t notice a difference personally But I do think it has less body roll on coils!

[@daniellloyd831]

@@maxautouk Thank you for the feedback! I really appreciate it. I do very little off road. I mainly have the car for its practicality. Currently plagued with suspension issues and looking into this as a way to continue enjoying the car with one less worry

[@maxautouk]

@@daniellloyd831 you will lose some off-road versatility in terms of programs and ride adjustability but we have been off roading for twenty years odd without adjustable ride height with air suspension and have been just fine… It’s a divisive issue because so many people swear air suspension is vastly superior but most people I’ve spoken to haven’t actually experienced coil-over suspensions and air suspension so they don’t actually have any experience

[@daniellloyd831]

@@maxautouk All very good points. My feeling is, if this was a brand new car, I wouldn’t dream of ripping out the air system. However it’s now a 17 year old system and I have two options. 1) relentlessly pile money into the air system 2) swap it out for a system I may or may not use from time to time, for a arguably less versatile system that I’ve never used in the time I’ve owned the car. I really enjoyed your video though. Really nice and clearly presented

[@maxautouk]

Thanks for the comments!

[@JbernardH]

How long did this take?

[@maxautouk]

It took me about eight hours to remove the old units, fit this kit and fit the electronics

[@romeoroze2357]

What style quick jack setup you are using to lift the truck up?

[@maxautouk]

It's the quick jack 3125kg capacity... Its very good and super handle for big trucks like these 😁

[@romeoroze2357]

@@maxautouk thank you.

[@maxautouk]

👍

[@jamiejones7058]

Hi bud hope all is well I've bought a coil conversion kit I'm just wondering what size was the little flooted socket you had may buy 1 just incase?

[@maxautouk]

Thanks for the comment! Sadly I don't rember the exact size but this is the kit that I have and its worth owning, and in my opinion its relatively inexpensive www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252574416185?epid=17010360124&hash=item3ace9bbd39:g:CUIAAOSwhCVg3JR5

[@jamiejones7058]

Perfect thanks for that going to attack it later on this week hopefully goes OK 👍

[@maxautouk]

Clean the threads really well and soak them in Wd40 days before you attempt the job, you won't regret it

[@jamiejones7058]

Yeah that's the plan going to try do it a couple of times before I do it atleast 2 anyway

[@jamiejones7058]

Hi bud I've got the kit on now next to do the wiring side also did you disconnect the ride hight sensors?

[@user-ni8uw1yg6u]

Hi did you fit standard high springs or the 2inch lift ?

[@maxautouk]

Thanks for the comment, we fitted standard height springs so we didn’t have to alter any of the suspension geometry 👌🏾

[@user-ni8uw1yg6u]

Have you got a picture of the ride hight once it’s settled? I can’t decide wether to put the 2 inch lift on or stick to standard height

[@maxautouk]

I don’t have a picture but they haven’t really settled any lower than when they were first fitted

[@maxautouk]

If you do fit a lift kit it will roll a lot more in turns so it depends how much country lane driving you’ll be doing to whether that will drive you mad or not

[@user-ni8uw1yg6u]

Ok thanks , in the video it stands well on the standard hight springs. Think I’ll stick to them 👍

[@deepboarder]

hey your brake discs are done...change them !!

[@maxautouk]

Already done along with a host of other work 😄