Air vs. Coil - MTB Rear Shocks (The Good, The Bad, and Everything in Between)

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Worldwide Cyclery

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Should I run a Coil Shock on my mountain bike? They look cool. I wonder if it will make a difference in my riding? Why do some pros ride Coil shocks? What really is the difference between an Air and a Coil rear shock? These are commonly talked about subjects in the world of mountain bikes and it can be pretty complicated. Not to worry, we got Jeff in front of the camera to help shed some light on the whole Air vs Coil rear shock debate in hope of making sure you make the right decision when upgrading your bike. If we did not answer your question about Air vs Coil then make sure to leave a comment down below!
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@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Air or Coil shock - Which do you prefer?
@gogovitch66
@gogovitch66 5 жыл бұрын
Coils are amazing! I'm only riding air shox, because they are either working in a DW-Link (that is super sensitive/souple on its own) or on an enduro that has either has to carry just me or me with a lot of extra-pounds in my backpack. I'd rather use the shock pump than changing the coil for that matter ;)
@NoBrakes23
@NoBrakes23 5 жыл бұрын
On my hand-me-down 2009 Chumba, (Push'd air shock in back,) I love the old buttery smooth 2005 coil Pike up front, but modern air has become so damn good. On a trail machine with a sweet linkage, metric length, and higher volume shock, a linear coil seems almost counter productive. And while that old Pike is nicer than some modern forks, the 2014 RCT3 Pike is nicer, and the newer Pike is nicer still. If I had loads of money to play with, I'd dabble with coils, (And maybe see if I could get a custom made progressive coil,) but the air stuff suits me fine for my next ride.
@germi1
@germi1 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Liteville 301 MK14 Enduro with an 205mm eye to eye air shock. Because of the dimensions I can't find a coil shock that will fit, if I could I would have already tried one. Living in Sweden I have a few month of very cold snowy rides, air suspension just doesn't work for this part of the year. If you know of a coil shock that can fit, please do let me know! Great video :)
@IamJParra
@IamJParra 5 жыл бұрын
I love both but I prefer air shocks
@dis3nchant3d42
@dis3nchant3d42 5 жыл бұрын
I like going fast and doing natural Enduro style trails and man once I went coil front and rear on my capra everything felt so good. The climb switch is a required item unless you're using a lift.
@hobbesthetiger7468
@hobbesthetiger7468 5 жыл бұрын
Nice - Watching a entire rear shock vid while riding a hardtail forever :D
@scottpratico1315
@scottpratico1315 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. Currently specialized chisel, soon Commencal Meta HT
@Gondzis
@Gondzis 5 жыл бұрын
But now you know :D
@hobbesthetiger7468
@hobbesthetiger7468 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottpratico1315 Nice! Allways nice to hear of some hardtail frame ideas :D Want to change mine soon
@th_js
@th_js 5 жыл бұрын
Hardtails are absolutely amazing!
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 5 жыл бұрын
Its nice to be young, enjoy it while it last.
@jckdnls9292
@jckdnls9292 5 жыл бұрын
Walmart was ahead of its time lol
@lme1747
@lme1747 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons I don't care for the looks of coil shocks.
@KF7UCK
@KF7UCK Жыл бұрын
Haaaaaaa!
@klstrucker930419
@klstrucker930419 5 жыл бұрын
Coil front+rear on downhill bike, air on enduro bike. And suntour XCM on my commuter, not sure what kind of sorcery is inside.
@thomasforte2740
@thomasforte2740 5 жыл бұрын
I like the adjustability of air shocks and I prefer them, but I don’t mind coil
@santiagomedinas266
@santiagomedinas266 5 жыл бұрын
My coil shock sounds like an old bed from a cheap motel....
@jckdnls9292
@jckdnls9292 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the only action you're getting these days lol
@kiyoponnn
@kiyoponnn 4 жыл бұрын
@@jckdnls9292 😂Savage
@pushatsinfrared
@pushatsinfrared 3 жыл бұрын
I spat my drink out at this 💀
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
Rhee-eeh rhee-eeh rhee-eeh! “Oh baby, YES!”
@angrydalek
@angrydalek 3 жыл бұрын
same here
@memduherdogar150
@memduherdogar150 5 жыл бұрын
I have been using cane creek dbcoil il last few weeks, I must say I’m delighted how it transformed my bike, it’s super planted on the trails, compared to monarch rt shock I previously had on the bike, I know monarch rt is probably the cheapest air shock but than again I have the cheapest coil shock. I have lost the poppy nature of my bike but I am really happy that I have a new personal best on most of my local trails now with the new shock. Great videos as always 👍
@novideosnovideos544
@novideosnovideos544 5 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video as always. Plus I love they way you also make them funny and interesting to watch. Not too long and not to short. Awesome stuff!
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the awesome feedback, glad you enjoyed this one. :)
@noahsears6651
@noahsears6651 5 жыл бұрын
Another sweet video! MRP Progressive Springs just started shipping yesterday! Worldwide will have one, with our Hazzard shock, in a few weeks!
@jmanswat2457
@jmanswat2457 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful topic that I feel is worthy of discussion! I haven't been that picky about my shocks. Seems like no matter what, at some point the trail gets ruff and I just deal with it, but coil sounds awesome!
@Bob-lv4sb
@Bob-lv4sb 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Have the same CC DB Inline on my GG Pistola and love it.
@pnw_erik
@pnw_erik 5 жыл бұрын
My '18 Enduro came with the RS Monarch that failed almost immediately. I was able to warranty it with a Debonair can. THAT chamber seal failed only a couple months later. I have swapped that out with an Öhlins TTX22M coil and couldn't be happier. I knew I would love it because I had the Fox DHX RC2 on my older Enduro. I'll never look back to any air shock. 👌
@renewedSF
@renewedSF 3 жыл бұрын
I switched from MRP ribbon air to their coil... amazing! They are both good, but I am a really light rider and it definitely helped get my suspension more dialed.
@shadow7423
@shadow7423 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!!!
@d0u6s
@d0u6s 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you ... pieces missing drives me crazy ✔
@tom_kearley
@tom_kearley 5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice Ned Flanders on the monitor in the background?
@MM-rn9eo
@MM-rn9eo 5 жыл бұрын
You can live without coil, you can live 2 maybe 3 minute's without air!
@mherke
@mherke 5 жыл бұрын
I've only tried air shocks, but based on your description of coil shock behavior on trails, it may be better for me. Thanks for your comparison review.
@woodworkerf355
@woodworkerf355 5 жыл бұрын
You guys KICK AZZ in service and videos. THANKS for the breakdown
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@salvadordelgado7444
@salvadordelgado7444 5 жыл бұрын
👍🏽 great info!
@jcarlson2727
@jcarlson2727 5 жыл бұрын
just got back into biking from a 10 year break but things keep going in circles... as usual. coil coil coil, then awww toooo heavy... k air then... air air air... nah I like the feel of coil etc.. last shock i had was a DHX5 coil with on the fly adjustable bottom out with air assist. kinda the best of both worlds.. coil feel with air support. And 10 years before that.... Stratos Helix pro on a Mountain Cycle - now I'm dating myself lol - but it's the same deal - coil with air assist - and it had lock out! 20 years ago! I mean.... air only is all good but even my old Marzocchi 66 with Ti spring was air assist and was a killer fork - felt great, at least at the time... anyways.. hard to beat a coil, don't think they are going anywhere. i feel like in the last 10 years, bike related things have kind of reached a plateau, wheel size and carbon stuff aside. Just get out there and ride.. you don't need a 6k bike to do it... 2-3k buys enough bike to have a great time on...
@loomspace
@loomspace 3 жыл бұрын
I may be dating myself as well but totally agree. Was riding before mtb suspension was a thing, have owned virtually every suspension linkage design / shock type combo out there. All have their place but I'm back on a falling rate, single pivot frame and coil with air assist shock (also dhx 5.0). I did swap on a super lightweight steel spring just because. At a point, you just want to sort your bike and ride it instead of constantly fiddling. 👍
@mtb-usa7066
@mtb-usa7066 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Specialized Stumpjumper with a Fox Air Shock which I really liked until I got my Evil Wreckoning with a Push 11/6 coil over. Now it's difficult to ride the Stumpjumper since I've gotten used to the supple feel of the Push. Additionally, I hit some pretty big stuff and have yet to bottom out the Push.
@gorman13
@gorman13 5 жыл бұрын
I had air on my Santa Cruz Superlight back in the day, then ran nothing but Marzocchi coil suspension for a solid decade. Now, I have a DVO Jade coil on my DH bike and DVO Topaz/Diamond on my trail bike. Never thought I would run air suspension until I tried the DVO Topaz and Diamond. The OTT adjustment on the Diamond really helps with small bump performance.
@JoaquinAlcerro
@JoaquinAlcerro 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video showing the pros and cons of vertical vs slanted rear shocks?
@UnrealApe
@UnrealApe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro! Gonna try a coil out on my mate x
@johnmiller2301
@johnmiller2301 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Cane Creek DB coil with the Cane Creek OPT remote. It makes it so you can use the climb switch as often as shifting. Riding a Canyon Strive 27.5
@MrSmoothasf
@MrSmoothasf 5 жыл бұрын
Here's my biggest coil shock con. Getting the right spring... I have a dhx2. When you finally find the right steel coil for your weight and riding style (£40 each) you then decide to get the pretty sls spring as you now know your right spring..... oh no you don't because the sls spring is more linear due to the nature of its design so now you have to guess and go a little higher. (£150 A spring) I had a 400 steel spring so you'd imagine a 425 would be right. I ended up with a 475 sls before it was right as the steel springs are inaccurate and the 400 one could have infact been 450 or 350. Sounds long winded because it is and for the price of all those springs you can buy a top secondhand air shock. I love my coil shock though.
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting feedback! We will have to look out for that. Thanks for watching!
@WasabiWei
@WasabiWei 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with basic and SLS springs. I had to buy a second regular steel spring and opted not to pop for the SLS because of prior knowledge with car and motorcycle suspension where the number of turns/coil affected the tendency to bottom out - more coils being more supportive (or progressive in your case). I was spitballing, so glad to hear confirmation on that.
@theodounis
@theodounis 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it!
@peaohvee1784
@peaohvee1784 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering, The Marin Hawk Hill can take a coil, and it takes it just fine! Bought the Canecreek DB Coil IL from Worldwide 2 months ago and it feels amazing
@superfelon6190
@superfelon6190 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try on a trail bike, the only times I've used a coil shock is at snowshoe mtn on a specialized enduro and at windrock bike park on a santa cruz v10. I loved the coil feel but I'm curious how it would be on a trail bike.
@craigmellin6217
@craigmellin6217 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've had the Push Elevensix a few times on diff bikes (evil and yeti) and found that for the endlessly punchy climbs we have here in the Northeast US...coil was too soft off the top (least it was for me a 220lb rider) and I prefer the pedaling platform of air.
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@jacobphillipps2825
@jacobphillipps2825 5 жыл бұрын
Once you get the right spring they have more adjustable than an air shock. You can get progressive springs and also the linkage on bikes make it more progressive. with a coil you can adjust preload which you cannot do on an air shock. Also most coil shocks have more dampening adjustments. This is not always true but most of the time especially in the lower end, you can only adjust air and rebound on an air shock. With most coil shocks you have preload, rebound dampening, hi speed compression dampening, and low speed compression dampening adjustments.
@themiddleagemasher8108
@themiddleagemasher8108 5 жыл бұрын
What about a progressive 5th Element with a Ti spring matched to a Marzocchi z1 qr20???? Going old school WWC. How about elastomers in my Judy.
@garretv7247
@garretv7247 5 жыл бұрын
Guy riding has some great lines! Whipping that tail around!
@supersherpa3214
@supersherpa3214 3 жыл бұрын
Just updated my ‘03 Norco with a brand new- old stock Fox vanilla coil, and it’s like a whole different bike . It’s an oldie but a goodie !
@SimplePleasuresMTB
@SimplePleasuresMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Coil, looks coiler😎 just realized you guys are local (Ventura county). I gotta come try on some 510 shoes, you got em in 13 men's? Sweet Nectar! See you soon 🤘
@briangong007
@briangong007 5 жыл бұрын
Love my dhx2 coil on my sb6c. May add one to my soon to be sb150
@Apexdave
@Apexdave Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve noticed Jeff’s dagger tattoo which is sick af
@michaelstewart9308
@michaelstewart9308 5 жыл бұрын
For a 130-140 travel hardtail are there more benefits to have a coil fork or an air fork. I think it's important to have the fork ramp up to maintain the slack head angle through g-outs (hardtails head angle becomes steeper through travel) but I also want a supple off the top feeling that you get with a coil. Considering an mrp ribbon coil or a pike Not too fussed about weight
@dank3823
@dank3823 5 жыл бұрын
Suspension co's never really developed coil suspension to its potential vs air imo. Coil suspension can blow air suspension out of the water with r&d. The whole point of suspension is smoothing out bumps...I thought. 🤔
@FatGuyBiking
@FatGuyBiking 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer coil being a bigger guy I just feel that the Coil is more reliable. I dont like to run Max pressure in my Monarch but thats the only way I get recommended sag and it basically negates any small bump feel. I like the weight savings with air though but to be honest I never ridden a high end air suspension setup compared to a coil so maybe I would like it.
@Rabidhotdog
@Rabidhotdog 5 жыл бұрын
Probably try adding some volume reducers to get more ramp up, should allow you to run a more manageable psi
@mark-gi9nq
@mark-gi9nq 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought me a 1998 k2 proflex that had a front shock system, but the previous owner got rid of it and put a regular air fork in it :( But that's beside the point This is my first full suspension bike and it has a "noleen, made in usa" coil in the back. Its feels great! I go through the travel a bit more than I like but theres no way I'm finding a aftermarket spring for a 20+ year old shock. As I upgrade it I hope in trying out a air option (my preference for forks, so I might as well try it on a shock) but for now the coil is the winner for me!
@on1ytheb3st
@on1ytheb3st 5 жыл бұрын
Aye I'm rockin the db air IL, awesome shock though the db coil IL looks prety enticing
@karllindberg4830
@karllindberg4830 5 жыл бұрын
Have a 2018 Giant reign with the Rock Shocks super deluxe coil absolutely in love
@bestofthenavy1609
@bestofthenavy1609 5 жыл бұрын
karl Lindberg dream bike
@bigbarqbbq1748
@bigbarqbbq1748 4 жыл бұрын
Morning! Thanks for the info vid. I am contemplating a coil set up on my Stumpy Expert 29er...you mentioned linear and possibility of bottoming out on some bikes. Any thoughts around my Stumpy and adding a coil setup?
@fantomita_rider477
@fantomita_rider477 2 жыл бұрын
My cane creek db inline coil just like the one you guys have in the video blew up 2 days after i bought the bike
@Max-pt4tx
@Max-pt4tx 5 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered, if you were to compare a range of bikes with the same shocks (not manufacturer tuned), which system would be most progressive. Examples may be Four bar Twin link/vpp style Switch infinity Linkage driven single pivot Etc. Cant name all of them haha. And would having a particular system to aid progressivity have an impact on pedal bob or kickback.
@shadow7423
@shadow7423 5 жыл бұрын
Currently I have a Fox DPX2 (190x51) in my stumpjumper. I am thinking of using/trying coil specifically the Cane Creek Double Barrel Coil IL CS Shock that you have on this video. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks for this video again.
@HEIPPI
@HEIPPI 5 жыл бұрын
Never tried one of those circular boing boing boing things but would love to!
@wittwer427
@wittwer427 5 жыл бұрын
Really interested in a CC DB CS (as an upgrade from a super deluxe r, because I really want a climb/pedal switch) although can't seem to find much information about how they perform with the reliability update. Also considering a DPX2. Dream shock would be the elevensix tho. Its just too sexy.
@tonyboughman8050
@tonyboughman8050 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a question. I like riding rough technical trails, but ride rather slowly (compared to race pace). The stoke for me comes in finding bits of "flow" in the rough. The advantages you cite for coil would seem better suited for slower, gentler riding (small bump sensitivity, linear, using deep travel), and the advantages for air would seem to favor downhill racing (progressive, less bottoming). Thus, I'm a little confused. How would a shorter travel, lighter weight, coil bike perform (more frequently using full range of travel)? The bits of humor really enhance the tone of your videos and make them fun to watch.
@kingrat738
@kingrat738 5 жыл бұрын
Loving the vids ^^ Slightly off topic (but still on, sort of)... What sort of mounting hardware is needed to run a 2018 Fox Float DPS Performance Elite rear shock on a 2017 Giant Reign 2?? And where could I get it?? ;-)
@dylaneagleton3090
@dylaneagleton3090 5 жыл бұрын
My dhx rc4 has air assisted bottom out Last 35% of travel is assisted by an air chamber that can be custom tuned
@leelantern805
@leelantern805 4 жыл бұрын
I have only owned coil shocks on downhillers but my next full suspension will proably be air as weight is a big factor. For my downhillers the coil setup has always worked great and I have tried a few pre 2010 bikes at that time the air shocks I could not get then set up for my taste so I just stayed with coils.
@ianiscaratti4924
@ianiscaratti4924 2 жыл бұрын
love my coil dropperpost. coil damper will be next
@Silverripples
@Silverripples 5 жыл бұрын
I have a DH bike, switched to full air because purchasing different coils to find out which works best for me pissed me off, purchased 2 non stock ones and still wasn't satisfied, now with air just tune it easily to my weight. Sidenote here have never bottemed out my rear or front and they are very subtle/sweet. Running Boxxer WC and Vivid Air. The Vivid feels so buttery soft sometimes I think I have a flat but check and it isn't so. save a full kilo on weigth too.
@benlawton5420
@benlawton5420 5 жыл бұрын
That's why they make graphs for the springs....
@2rba2moto78
@2rba2moto78 5 жыл бұрын
You rock !
@thexardas8395
@thexardas8395 5 жыл бұрын
I had both and like both. As long as shock is set correctly there is no big difference. Easy maintenance and longevity are 2 main coil pluses. Weight I don't see as an issue. It is not like anyone slaps coil shock on XC bike. For DH or Enduro 150-200g more or less means very little as long as you are not exceeding certain weight limit.
@michaelevans6205
@michaelevans6205 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is kinda what I'm thinking I really prefer jumps and what not but I have never cared about weight and the lower level of maintenance is key for me I hope to soon have a dual suspension bike with a nice beefy coil shock
@MikAnimal
@MikAnimal Жыл бұрын
@@michaelevans6205 did ya get ur full suspension bike wid beefy coil shock
@worldstallestmidget
@worldstallestmidget 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a sentinel with air front and back. Thought I would not like it coming from an enduro with ohlins coil front and rear. I love it now. Air seems to be more poppier and lively then coil. But coil is definitely for monster trucking. I dont care about small bump sensitivity crap. Go fast pull up! Whats the worst that can happen?
@fabianholzel7852
@fabianholzel7852 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a Santa Cruz v10 and I had a fox float x2 but than I said hey why wouldn’t I try a coil and now i have a bomber cr and I absolutely love it ... it just feels more comfortable to me 👌
@piggegaming7423
@piggegaming7423 3 жыл бұрын
Im new to mountainbiking but i love my airshock so far.😁
@iKaramboo
@iKaramboo 5 жыл бұрын
Would a coil shock from fox fit and work properly in the current Cube Stereo Action Team Hybrid?
@edwardo123
@edwardo123 5 жыл бұрын
That dude was so bummed that he had two springs lol
@Silverripples
@Silverripples 4 жыл бұрын
I am about to throw away about 4 coils, only air shocks for me in the future. Trying to find the correct coil is a minefield. Running a RS Vivid air schock on my DH rig, replaced the coil. My Vivid is very very supple and way lighter. never bottomed it out, sometimes i think I have a rear flat because of the suppleness. The adjustability is way way more advanced than on a coil shock.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
I have to think if one is riding long rides in the backcountry, a coil would be more dependable; a good choice for a “down country” bike.
@nathanb101
@nathanb101 5 жыл бұрын
Subbed.
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 3 жыл бұрын
Question since you're the only ones who ever reply to my questions. I am looking at a Mondraker Dune 2020xr with coil shock and i just like to know if i can swap it to the air shock. I can't find any information on their site or the dealer. Pretty please🐱‍🚀
@myshots101
@myshots101 5 жыл бұрын
"That supple feeling." That's what she said. Lol
@mattleonard5268
@mattleonard5268 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to try a coil shock with a progressive spring or a titanium spring
@NDemanuele1
@NDemanuele1 3 жыл бұрын
I run a DPX2 on my V1 Ripmo. I did ride a coil on a different bike recently and was very impressed. Not sure if I'll make the change. I'd rather switch out my drivetrain.
@alcaholic640
@alcaholic640 5 жыл бұрын
Which bike co makes the beefiest rearends on a trailbike?
@davenicholson3491
@davenicholson3491 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Commencal AM V4. All shock manufacturers say coil shocks won’t fit my frame. Can anyone tell me where it’s going to foul my frame? Is it when the coil compresses and gets bigger in diameter? Also would it fit if it was fitted upside down?
@2VP
@2VP 5 жыл бұрын
I find I bottomed out my RockShox Super Deluxe all the time even though it was set up right for my weight. I had a few volume spacers installed before putting the bike away for winter. If the spacers don't make a difference I'll be looking at a coil.
@bobdixon3048
@bobdixon3048 5 жыл бұрын
2VP same my deluxe always bottoms out and I’m running it quite hard just need to see what spacers do
@taylordoingstuff
@taylordoingstuff 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly me. Have an evil offering with one. Might switch to push 11.6 if I don’t stop bottoming out.
@th_js
@th_js 5 жыл бұрын
But I think you'll bottom out easier on a coil shock
@camshaft1840
@camshaft1840 5 жыл бұрын
Put your bike away for the winter!?!?!?
@taylordoingstuff
@taylordoingstuff 5 жыл бұрын
Cam Shaft hey - gotta have a reason to snow ski in the winter!
@isaks3243
@isaks3243 3 жыл бұрын
I am seriously considering getting a rockshox superdelux coil
@eatnpooter1634
@eatnpooter1634 5 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for the 19’ stumpy LT 29 .. I live in Santa Cruz lots of rock gardens drops & jumps .. it’s the expert model with Rocshox. .
@kuruc71
@kuruc71 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer coil shock. I had Ibis mojo HD4 asked the Ibis tech for change to Fox X2 to DHX2 the they recomended air shock . I've tested for week Fox DHX2 can tell you much better than air shock. So I got new Yeti SB150 with X2 rode 4 weeks now I'm riding DHX2 way better.
@smokefast90606
@smokefast90606 5 жыл бұрын
Hey my name jeefff thanks for the like on my comment and go go worldwide cyclery
@adrian_veidt
@adrian_veidt 2 жыл бұрын
I got forced to switch to a coil after my rear shock(manitou swinger) began leaking. I can't believe how more plush my bike feels after switching into coil.
@thelegendmtb3483
@thelegendmtb3483 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic. However, not hating, just want to add some insight and other facts. 1.) Just an FYI, they've been making coil shocks in smaller sizes for years. For example you could buy a 6.5 x 1.5 coil shock in the early 90's. 2.) 11.6 is custom only to a select number of bikes, might have wanted to mention that for your consumers. You mention it's custom, like anyone can get one made for their bike and that is simply not the case. One other thing to consider when thinking of coil vs air, air is more poppy and coil tends to feel more stuck to the ground. So if you like to boost a lot maybe air is better for your riding style. However if you tend to want to plow through terrain, coil might be better. I have both for my current ride, DPX2 and DHX2, it's good to have choices for different terrain or whatever tickles my fancy that day.
@thelegendmtb3483
@thelegendmtb3483 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNotoriousMIC Tried that, luckily the DHX2 is super tuneable so it helped the poppy a bit, but detrimental in other places. Thanks for the suggestion.
@jacobbockover1628
@jacobbockover1628 4 жыл бұрын
Coil shocks stay consistent when they heat up
@tebibyte2357
@tebibyte2357 4 жыл бұрын
That don't make sense
@tebibyte2357
@tebibyte2357 4 жыл бұрын
But I'll listen
@thelongestnameinthecomment9677
@thelongestnameinthecomment9677 4 жыл бұрын
It's more that they don't heat up
@gursisingh1940
@gursisingh1940 4 жыл бұрын
@@tebibyte2357 air expands with heat while coil doesn't so coil is more constant
@geopietro
@geopietro 4 жыл бұрын
What is the cost differential between air and coil, both to initially purchase and to maintain? Thank you.
@michaeledmiston9153
@michaeledmiston9153 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 YT Tues CF Pro with the Fox X2. Within the first month I had to send the shock back to be fixed/upgraded. I ride Windrock Bike Bike in TN. It is not too friendly on anyone's bike or body, but I notice the air is super harsh. I feel planted but there is no subtle top end feel. I had mostly ridden Santa Cruz and the VPP with coil in the past. I am looking to put a coil on the Tues. Does anyone have suggestions or advice. I am a bigger boy around 200 lbs.
@franciscojavierrivera7674
@franciscojavierrivera7674 5 жыл бұрын
good afeternoon please let me ask you a question: what is the distance from eye to eye of that coil shock you show in your video????thx
@CanonFirefly
@CanonFirefly 3 жыл бұрын
Need a shock with both. Coil for the high speed sensitivity but an air spring to give more progression deeper in the stroke.
@jasno333
@jasno333 5 жыл бұрын
Love The Office references
@SimplePleasuresMTB
@SimplePleasuresMTB 5 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@ripcorda
@ripcorda 5 жыл бұрын
Great summary! Can you help me understand how you were able to fit the 210x55 coil shock on the Smuggler, which has a stock shock size of 210x50. You mention that you used offset bushings. What bushing offset size did you use? What orientation did you place them? Is there an offset bushing on both ends of the shock? Given the leverage ratio of the 2018+ Smuggler (2.4), did the 5mm longer shock stroke give you ~13mm addition travel? I'm trying to do something similar on my 2018 Smuggler, and have been having trouble finding how to properly prevent the wheel from making contact with the seat tube at full compression. Thanks!
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Shoot us an email and we can get you all the info you need :)
@harveyburrows3283
@harveyburrows3283 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at buyigna cheapish mountain bike so far I have found a Apollo Radar, and how do I adjust the coil?
@ThunderStruckMTB
@ThunderStruckMTB 5 жыл бұрын
My SC Chameleon seems to be missing that thing?
@rcinthewoods9158
@rcinthewoods9158 4 жыл бұрын
What’s that Yeti bike at 3:14? It looks awesome!
@jimcarpetburn3244
@jimcarpetburn3244 5 жыл бұрын
I have a specialized enduro comp 2017 650b, could you tell me if a coil shock would be a good choice for me?
@eveoff
@eveoff 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, which one gives better rebound. There are EUCs coming out with suspension and one uses the same as rear MTB suspension. Which one gives a better jump capabilite. Like you preload the shock and then jump. Coil or Air?
@Brian-cr1ep
@Brian-cr1ep 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a polygon sisku T7 and I was wondering if it was compatible with a coil shock
@ShreddingBliss
@ShreddingBliss 5 жыл бұрын
Just converted over from air (shock) to the Cane Creek DB CS coil. Absolutely amazing. Yes it’s heavier on an already heavy bike (2018 Kona Process 153) but, man, my rear tyre was glued to the ground in super chunky terrain in Southern Spain. Some tweaking of the factory settings required and some understanding of stroke and spring rates but definitely a done deal for me. Climbing I feel is brilliant despite the weight. Can’t recommend enough!
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
That is great to hear! Thanks for sharing and for watching the channel. :)
@Rickie-37
@Rickie-37 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like I'm always doing the exact opposite of the new trend..... I just switched over to a fox 40 float on my DH bike and got a new trail bike with RockShox revelation and fox ctd float. I weight 120 lbs and for years as everyone switched over to air, all I kept hearing about is how poor the small bump sensitivity was and that it's way worse for light riders. Finally the technology got perfected so I gave it a try and wow it is amazing! I suppose part of it is due to the ultra low air pressures I run, the negative spring in the fox 40 doesn't even let it extend fully.... But small bump sensitivity is incredible, the weight savings is unreal, and I absolutely love the progressiveness for when I overshoot the landing! I learned real fast that the rebound dampening isn't progressive as well, which is my only complaint; if it's fully compressed then the rebound valving is too weak and the fork shoots back pretty aggressively, and if I turn it up then I'll start packing up the travel.... Aside from that, I'm loving it and don't see myself going back to coil anytime soon!
@WorldwideCyclery
@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm happy to hear you got a chance to give air another try and are enjoying it!
@4centhotdog
@4centhotdog 4 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, that extra pushback out of the deep travel is getting the suspension ready for the next big hit a little faster and you might carry more momentum. You can also use it to your advantage to save energy jumping around on the trail.
@lukepws-skiandmtb1122
@lukepws-skiandmtb1122 3 жыл бұрын
does the gt force 2020 come compatible with coil and air as thinking of switching to air but do not know if able to?
@reidgriffin1926
@reidgriffin1926 5 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why you’re running a 2.25” vs a 2.0” spring on the smuggler?
@sam_camer0n
@sam_camer0n 4 жыл бұрын
can i put a coil on my trek slash 8 2019
@emilegoguely4032
@emilegoguely4032 4 жыл бұрын
On a Fuel Ex, would like a coil if it made sense (some people ride some) but it seems like getting a coil dialed would be hard.
@RuiZinho
@RuiZinho 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you think it’s possible to mount a coil rear suspension on my Cube stereo hybrid 160 race 500. It has an air one, and don’t like the felling
@oldmanmtb1443
@oldmanmtb1443 2 жыл бұрын
I hope im wording it right. How does the pump feels off a lip of a jump compare to air shock.
@tyhaugh287
@tyhaugh287 3 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for a coil shock for a norco optic I’ve been doing so much research and can’t find much
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