Airforce Texan .357 Review

If you are looking for hard numbers on the .357 Texan then you came to the right place.
Tyler shot everything he could find through this Texan and came up with a few of the best pojectiles for this exciting new caliber. Based on what he found we would say an entire world of hunting opportunities has just opened up to you!
Airforce Texan in .357cal:
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[@indraaccuracy352]

Hi Tayler, is the scope you use in this video Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO using mildot GLASS reticle or wire reticle? by the way nice video and review, Thanks

[@vavoo4971]

what a treat!

[@AirgunTV]

That is a seriously cool looking rifle... the GunPower Stealth on steroids!!!

[@rickrehm2813]

Nice job Tyler! This is Rick from shooter1721

[@victorrhone6785]

34" barrel. Nice. Great accuracy. Need to tune the dial for accuracy. 2" group at 50. Maybe the slugs needs more yards to get stable. That's how some powder gun's work sometime

[@aeromagnumtv1581]

Thank you for posting. Question: what is the barrel twist rate? Happy Shooting, Aeromagnum.

[@didoboev3587]

What's the twist rate of the barrel on .30cal ? Enyone know?

[@TheShiellsy]

So how loud is this thing compared to say a suppressed 357 mag rifle with subsonic ammo?

[@TPVPRO]

I must say like many... I am disappointed with the accuracy.

[@chemicallust77]

Definitely...there's no way I would consider this for hunting

[@brettduffy1992]

Do you have to buy their round ball or can you just use a musket ball

[@lukes-uf4bc]

somethng is wrong with the acurracy ,.....they shoot in low power at 45 yards ?

[@kysubienong6882]

How to distinguish genuine lorar airforce condor barrel?

[@vancuongnguyen3835]

condor cal.22 fire accurately over 100m?

[@mehlcarelse4319]

Any chance of a .22 calibre being tested in the near future with Mr. Hollowpoint 43 grainers or .22 Piledriver pellets both with excellent BC's at distance. Was also inmressed with the Ataman video. would love to see accuracy test with .177 calibre in that rifle. The Ruskies really seemed to put some proper research into that brand. Kudo's to them. Cheers Mehl

[@charlieperry26]

how would .38 wad cutters do in this rifle? sized properly of course

[@Jaymoe69]

for the price would seem like one be able to get a better grouping ... on another note who dialed in the scope " helen keller?" any marksman worth his salt knows that if you got the scope tuned in to shoot round ball projectiles its going to differentiate significantly for the other slugs you were shooting.......

[@extreme.4576]

Hey Tyler, I've been talking with a few ppl about the Texan .357 seems like AirForce has too fast of a twist rate in the bbl 1:16.25 better suited for the longer and heavier AMMO. Give us airgunners a bit to play with her and soon enough we will get the best AMMO for her. Great gun with plenty of power. I will be talking with Edwin with Airguns of Tx and see if his Tophat and restricter will work on the Texan .357 Great info you gave us. Thnx Brother Man

[@tylerpatner6591]

I've been keeping up with a thread over on the GTA and have been reading the same about the twist. Look forward to seeing what you guys can figure out. Only wish I had access to heavier and longer ammo for this test. Thanks for tuning in!

[@VinnyAGil]

what are hammer and spring dimensions?

[@mohdsujaie5638]

Very powerful

[@stevencox75]

can it be regulated ?

[@jamescole1234]

What was your power setting at

[@birdsbird011]

Why do you think the accuracy is not all that great with this gun? I mean, lets face it, those are not really great groups for 45 yards. Could the accuracy be suffering due to the fact that the weapons barrel is so long, which generates more speed and power but the projectile is being affected by the recoil of the weapon as it is in the barrel for far too long.

[@user-oh4yo7dk2t]

What twist this barrel is？

[@hernaldogamez6383]

What scope are iu using

[@HungNguyen-vz6ok]

Khâu nay ơ viet nam co ban k

[@manuelcobos1465]

Como puedo adquirir uno

[@ammeSanban-jq4rw]

Ơ đâu bán a

[@tokyomida7923]

How can I get the gun. Me from India (Arunachal Pradesh) tell me...

[@muhon19]

How to buy this 22cl uk

[@user-gn6zj8vq9r]

The Speed??

[@timothysvec8568]

How do the jsb' shoot?

[@tylerpatner6591]

The JSB's were not very good for me. I have heard from a few customers that they shoot well in their .357 Texan's, but in the one I reviewed, it did far better with heavier ammo. I would have liked to get some slugs in the 175-200 grain range to try in this.

[@aryasoma319]

I come from in indonesia. I like it .how much the shotgun is. Pliss

[@ahmadalihasan]

1084 $ bucks

[@aryasoma319]

@@ahmadalihasan thank you very much for the information .

[@aryasoma319]

@@ahmadalihasan even though iwant to buy but my money is not enouhh and dont know order it. Iam sorry

[@johnlewis7588]

someone should make a mag fed version

[@kirkmulder1599]

Not unless you want to beg to make these rifles more regulated.

[@ronylticar5033]

How much in the Philippines??

[@mainakan9021]

Can we buy it

[@lukes-uf4bc]

the average FPE is WRONG!!! when the test of the .30 caliber???? thanks

[@andrychannel8363]

brapa harga om

[@phalo3206]

👍👍👍👍👍💎

[@donwilson350]

I've got a question why do all the Big Bore Airguns shoot so bad the groups are terrible you would think for that kind of money that you would spend on a gun like that if you can't hit hole on hole that's a waste of money

[@victorrhone6785]

Because it's a very big round. Lot's of factors that are math based. Moves point of impact. You have to tune the airgun to the projectile. Or find ammo that the gun likes

[@johnm.4655]

Is this considered a "deadly weapon", i.e.would it be lethal to a human being?

[@Xr8dACE420]

John M. its a .357 cal slug @ 145 grains weight moving around 900 fps...its on par with a .38 special, so yes at close range it will kill medium size game & probably a medium sized human.

[@fomocowboy]

John M. those kinds of ft/lb figures are more than sufficient to take out a human. these are .357 magnum handgun power levels.

[@watcher01a17]

THE REGULATORS No. It's about half of the power of a .357 mag. It is just under the power of a .38 special.

[@fomocowboy]

Watcher 01A either is plenty sufficient to kill a person......

[@johnm.4655]

Ok, wow, thanks for all the replies! Any hand gun or smaller sizes available for home or rv defense? 👍

[@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646]

Powerful , but all over the place. Imagine 100 yards!

[@kirkmulder1599]

Here's the thing about the Texan. It's actually quite accurate. The rub is two things: 1.) Main thing is, this is a 34" barrel. With rounds traveling at 6-900FPS, that means just a little movement in your hold can certainly cause fliers at 50-150+ yards. You need to hold it still enough for the round to travel that long distance at slow speed without altering it's orginal path in the process. 2.) Variations in pressure as you shoot multiple rounds on a charge. This is the lesser evil, but still a factor and combined with the above can make accuracy more challenging.

[@manuelcobos1465]

Se necesita algún permiso

[@posmatracanonimni_com]

Big gun. Buth, accuracy is not good. Maybe in a 100Y testing?

[@Tofazfou]

Whats up Tyler? Not that its your fault but man, the accuracy is sub par for only 45 yards. Airforce is one of my fav style of airguns but i'm afraid they missed the mark with the twist rate therefore accuracy on this gun. I hope the 308 is much better and that Airforce doesn't choose something like a 10" twist. AIRFORCE: 1 in 14"-16" twist rates are pretty fast for a 357 cal airgun. Roundball accuracy falls off once you get UNDER 1-20" twist in MOST BIG BORES and perform even better with slower twist. Once you get into the TEENS twist rate like 14" or 16" or 18" twist, RB accuracy suffers. With this level of power, a 1-26" twist would have been much better suited. But if you guys made the guns SPECIFICALLY for 190 gr 357 ammo (word on the street), then, i guess you've done well in that regards. But you sure limit your consumers. As Tyler said to someone else down below in the comments, you guys should really pay more attention to the forum guys and don't be afraid to give us credit for what we have done with these guns over the years. There is a happy medium between, SAFETY, ACCURACY and POWER and its easily achieved Just my .02

[@tylerpatner6591]

I'm with you 100% Tof. I only wish we had more ammo options to try in the gun. Sadly, right now we are a little behind in that regard. But we are looking into those options, hopefully close to 200 grains. I agree the accuracy was not that great with any of the slugs we tested, but I can really only fault the lack of selection we have at this point. My point in the video is that in spite of the lack luster groups, they'd still get the job done on most medium and large game at or under the 45 yard mark. But I (like you) would definitely be stretching it's legs further...and none of the slugs we tested would be suitable. Looking back at it, If I could have summed up the video in one statement, it would have been: "The Texan is a great platform, but for my money, I'd be sticking with the .45"

[@TPVPRO]

I would be interested in seeing the .30 in action.

[@BenAtTheTube]

Try some swagged hollow base bullets. These are the standard for low power .38 Special revolver target shooting. The air pressure, while high for an air gun, may not be enough to seal the solid bullet base to the barrel.

[@tasmedic]

Great review and thanks for that. Thumbs up! But.. I don't like the design. Having to plant your cheek on the bottle really prevents good cheek weld and the other side effect of this being an "in-line plumbing kit" is that the scope has to be too far above the bore to make aiming easy. Having the scope so high also increases the potential for cant error. Might be better with the bottle under the fore-end. Then it would be possible to fit a better stock, and mount the scope lower. I'm not sure how airforce managed to reduce the accuracy of the lothar walther barrel to 3" at 45 yards. That was quite an accomplishment. The overall impression is a piece of plumbing with a metal plate screwed into the bottle to put your shoulder against. Ugly. But yes, it is powerful. I think I'd probably look at something like a sako or CZ powder burner if I was thinking of shooting deer or coyotes. Much more accurate, lighter, shorter. Would look better to, to my mind.

[@tzenophile]

Lothar Walther should charge extra to compensate for the negative publicity.

[@tasmedic]

tzenophile I like your style!

[@tzenophile]

Thank you, Sir or Madam. You inspired it!

[@tylerpatner6591]

The gun (and barrel) really NEEDS heavier ammo. 145 grain just ins't enough. A 190 grain slug or larger would be a better option. I wouldn't blame this one on LW in this case. Pyramyd just doesn't have that heavier ammo selection right this minute, but I would be willing to bet that we will see some more option there soon.

[@tasmedic]

Thanks for that. However, heavier ammo will mean droopier ballistics. It might be better to ask LW to make a barrel with a different rate of twist. I wonder if a smooth twist barrel might work?

[@jamiemahl6821]

I would expect a lot better accuracy out of a 1000.00 airgun.

[@user-hk7pq3rz2y]

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[@longle8549]

Gui ve vn cho khẩu

[@quangloi-suaxemay-4713]

việt nam mình súng khác nhỉ

[@Isccario]

it seems the Texan is Hold sensitive!!>

[@kevinalt1707]

I think it needs heavy ammo

[@shilohpacheco682]

I'll take a dragon claw instead.

[@rockyarmstrong7345]

every time I see this, I think is it a giant caulking gun, a rivet driver, a super syringe for the ultimate addict.. I know estetics aren't everything but..?

[@kevinalt1707]

rocky armstrong lol

[@TPVPRO]

I see the .308 Texan is still not available, Hunter supply makes a lot of Ammo in .308. If PA wants to promote the other Texan gun’s I would suggest trying Ammo that you guys don't have, and find a good grouping round. Most people are going to be turned off when they see bad groups @ 45 yards. I know you want to promote your products only but I know you want to sell guns also….

[@dannybeeson5084]

I have the Texan in .45 (purchased from Pyramid last year!) and I found Air Venturi ammo to be unacceptable in the gun. Using 266 and 350 grain bullets yielded 6" groups at 100yds no matter how much tuning I did to the rifle. This was the case in the 4 boxes (EACH!!) of 265 grain and 350 grain ammo I tried. The diameters simply aren't consistent and the bullet surface has lots of weird voids. Micing the 350 bullets showed variances of over .002 inch. In some cases the bullets were out of round by this much. Switching to Hunter's Supply 360gr semi wad cutter ammo yielded much better results. I was regularly hitting 2 1/2 groups at 100yds using an ATN 5x20 X-Sight 2. I'm currently shooting Mr Hollowpoint 330gr, 360gr and the big 415gr hollowpoint boat tails. These rounds are performing just as consistently as the Hunter's Supply and performs better shooting game. I have settings marked on the spring adjustment for each of these rounds. Short version. The accuracy (or lack of) isn't the fault of the gun. Use quality ammo and the Texan will hit what you shoot at.

[@quehuonglachumkhengot2680]

Dep vai luon

[@zcplayer1]

so balls fly faster than shells?

[@duanehopland7506]

I'll stick to my bulldog 357

[@nealtressler1661]

not really impressed with the accuracy....I'm very happy with my 25cal Condor,and I'm ordering the 457 Texan. Have no plans to shoot it at 250 or 500 yds,but I would be disappointed with that level of accuracy.

[@tylerpatner6591]

The .45 version typically does much better with slugs in the 300+ grain range. At least of the slugs Pyramyd carries, the 350 grain always performed very well for me. Quite frankly, I would opt for the .45 over the .357 any day of the week.

[@ronalddavis]

.357 snub nose revolver velocity

[@pyramydair]

The firearm version?

[@jimforjzs777]

gee...Didja even sight the gun in ? or ur not so good shootin.

[@QQ-kj1pf]

想要就找我

[@jamiemahl6821]

Not impressed. I like my .22 Condor.

[@mohdsujaie5638]

Haw much broo

[@ryanalbright6510]

not impressed. Need better groups what about the JSB 81gr.

[@IvanIgnath]

Groups like from break barrel airgun

[@tasmedic]

Much WORSE, in fact than my HW97K at the same range.

[@Powerpickle68]

A cheap one with poor pellet selection and a shooters that doesn't know how to hold one. My break barrels have far superior accuracy

[@TheZombieburner]

Speak for yourself, I can do quarter sized groups with my Fenix at that distance!

[@mayar9928]

Dude I have a Slavia 630 and it's accurate as fuck

[@robincormie855]

Hi very poor accuracy if it groups like that at only 45 yards I think it would be a lot worse further out.

[@tedsell1455]

I've seen guns do just as good further out !

[@howarddemings2063]

Pretty rounded. LOL

[@peteflynn3923]

I quit watching after the accuracy eval. Who cares about the rest if you can't hit what you're shooting at?

[@luftgewhrschutz7099]

Dude, like your review, loose the earrings.

[@mikel.978]

Air Force absolutly refuses to take advice on proper barrel twist for the cal. in bullets. My Air Force based Custom .257 Dot At 100 from Doug Nobel and R&L Airguns will print a 5 shot group, well under an inch at 100 yards! Why, oh why won't airforce listen and use a proper barrel designed fro bullets, rather than trying to shoot actual bullets thru a barrel with rifling suited to pellets I will Never understand! They have thru arrogance, have put down anyone building big bores from their frames. Now that they are doing it, they refuse to learn from what we have tested and learned thru hard work. They have been given all the info, but ignore it. All they seem to care about it having a high muzzle velocity for 1 shot in able to brag about it in advertizing rather than producing a product with accuracy and good shot count. Have they learned nothing from the way Serious Airgunners have turned their backs on Gammo due their same misguided antics? Gamo has become the laughing stock of serious Air gunner the world over. the only real customers Gamo has left are the Big Box Stores..I hope Air Force opens their eyes before they are branded with the same "badge of Dishonor"! It is a platform that has almost unlimited possibilities. It should not be the tuners, and we the customers that have to properly finish these guns with barrels, hammers, springs and valves that operate properly for the caliber! KnifeMaker

[@khagendratumkhewa543]

Hum much

[@pyramydair]

How much? follow the link under the video...

[@fomocowboy]

is this guy that terrible of a shot or is this thing really about as accurate as a slingshot?

[@bigfootwashere2336]

i own the 45 version and it's even worse accuricy

[@BouncyThrone]

Hey Southern gunner. I was going to pick up one of these rifles till I seen your comment. Think maybe I should wait for the impact in 35?

[@massv953]

errr this gun shoots way better than this, you are doing something wrong or this is an older version of the gun. My texan has a lothar walther barrel and groups 1 inch at 50 yards with most ammo

[@pyramydair]

It does shoot way better than that!! Check this out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYjRaoJ4gM-BmaM&t=

[@spiderman0863]

How could you say the accuracy is sufficient with a straight face. That was not a great demonstration. Sorry.

[@dougking5703]

extremely poor accuracy.

[@BMyVision]

ALL IRRELEVANT SINCE, TWO YEARS LATER, THEY AREN'T AVAILABLE.

[@BMyVision]

......Not in stock to purchase.....

[@TheMuffdivr]

Accuracy sucks, either that or you just can't shoot.

[@ncairguner]

Air force guns are not that accurate. you need to check in to cricket air gun pullpup. a lot more accurate !!!!

[@arnoldtm31]

Terrible accuracy

[@donwilson350]

Man what a terrible grouping gun that's no good at all

[@Themayseffect]

this thing is horribly overpriced. shouldn't cost a dollar over 750.

[@AirgunTV]

That is a seriously cool looking rifle... the GunPower Stealth on steroids!!!