Airline Pilot: What is the worst part

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@in-motus
@in-motus 5 жыл бұрын
As for the number Two, to be good at any job and profession means continuous study throughout your career. It is a must!
@cr7savage709
@cr7savage709 Жыл бұрын
So basically, for other jobs it’s a good habit for the best, where as all pilots have to be the best therefore it is required
@luisguillermoballesteros1209
@luisguillermoballesteros1209 6 жыл бұрын
I do really like the way to address these topics. Excellent sense of humor!
@nishantnuthalapati1640
@nishantnuthalapati1640 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone do a video on how much time it takes and how much time you are away from your family... this is the only hing I worry about before I decide on becoming a pilot
@FlyLeah
@FlyLeah 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still going to be a pilot, been a dream so there’s nowhere else i’ll get that satisfaction than the job itself. So far I’m just a pilot student :)
@sahpi0175
@sahpi0175 5 жыл бұрын
Keep on going
@joelangrehr6184
@joelangrehr6184 5 жыл бұрын
Idk why I'm watching these videos my dream is to join the navy lol
@country_flyboy
@country_flyboy 5 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to go to MTSU, or do you go to Embry Riddle? If neither, where do you go to college?
@andytaylor1588
@andytaylor1588 4 жыл бұрын
So far, yer killin it funkyleah! If I had a do over, I'd do ground school first and get tons of simulator time, as I have always had anxiety. I quit early and blamed it on cost, but it was the anxiety that killed me. Nothing but the best hope for your continued success.
@27th-Letter
@27th-Letter 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be discouraged by this video, while some of what he said is true, my dad is a pilot for American Airlines and he has to work quite a bit in a short amount of time, but he has 1 to sometimes 2 weeks off between those flights, and makes over 200 grand a year. Yes he's pretty senior as a first officer on the 787, but even when he was younger he had a lot of time off. So basically if you work hard enough you'll get to that reward soon enough. Basically 10 years in you'll be making over 100 grand a year (according to my dad) and let's say you get your start in your 20s, making that high of a wage in your 30s is extremely lucrative. 40s you'll be making possible 200 grand a year. It's all based on seniority basically, and right now is a perfect time. (I'm currently a student pilot as well) plus who wants to sit behind a desk 5 days out of the week, at least flying is actually fun lol.
@rikschaaf
@rikschaaf 4 жыл бұрын
4:46 "That being said, it can happen" It happened! Divination 100
@22h8
@22h8 3 жыл бұрын
2020 & Corona joined the chat
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 5 жыл бұрын
I see you guys and girls in the same hotels as I stay in for work. After 10 years I called it quits, took a pay cut and found a job that I can be home every night. Being away on the road is brutal, thanks for flying me safely around the US and Canada.
@Airplanegeek777
@Airplanegeek777 5 жыл бұрын
The constant changes in your sleeping pattern means that I’m always more tired than I felt prior to being an airline pilot. One week I may be getting up at 3-4am and (trying) to go to bed at 9pm; the following week it may be starting work at 5pm and finishing at 3am. Since we work by rosters, this isn’t fixed and changes all the time as well! The other difficult thing is staying in shape. Being a pilot means sitting down for long periods of time and even the luxury of just getting up and going to the bathroom isn’t as easy as it is in most other jobs! Combined with feeling tired means it becomes very difficult to motivate yourself to go to the gym as well. I still love the job though :)
@simonwallace699
@simonwallace699 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would imagine that being an airline pilot can be tough on family life. I used to travel a lot for IT consulting work for about 5 years at its worst as you had to fly a lot to chase the work (especially in Australia where the geographic separation is huge) and I would often see the same pilots in the airport every couple of days around the country so I can sympathise. I can imagine that you wouldn't swap the job for anything though! Keep that motivation up mate - these videos are great.
@kenlee9874
@kenlee9874 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon very true comment about the similarities of your industry having to fly often to fix mainframe computers interstate and overseas and pilots obviously flying overseas on a daily basis. Thanks
@carmcarm8230
@carmcarm8230 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see your old videos and all they way you have come improving the quality.
@MagnumMike44
@MagnumMike44 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. I wanted to be an airline pilot when I was about 5 or 6, plus seeing and flying on those beautiful Boeing 707s and 727s in the mid 1960s just gave me a lot of encouragement. But, unfortunately I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes just after I turned 12, and we all know how the FAA feels about people with medical conditions who want to be pilots. Oh well. :-)
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
ya unfortunately it doesn't work out for everyone Mike... Thanks for watching and subscribing to the channel. Hopefully you can live vicariously through my channel! 👍
@MagnumMike44
@MagnumMike44 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information you give us on those videos, it is pretty interesting and I do admire all pilots because I know it's not like a typical 9 to 5 job. :-)
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 5 жыл бұрын
Bad turbulence, bad food options, waiting on hotel vans/long van rides to the airport, O'-dark-30 shows, checkrides/training.
@timothyradchishin1197
@timothyradchishin1197 5 жыл бұрын
there are solutions too all of those, they are only problems if you make them, you can always have a good diet and turbulence is meant too be avoided not gone through, and the long van rides are a perk for some people, check rides and training are probably the only pain in the rear
@SaqibKhan-hd7ic
@SaqibKhan-hd7ic 5 жыл бұрын
What is a check ride?
@BananaPhone234
@BananaPhone234 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the life of flying the line.... same with being an FA. Just replace check ride with the mystery shops and recurrent.
@Tackleberry666
@Tackleberry666 5 жыл бұрын
Name me 5 worst things about being an airline pilot and I will name you 20 worst things having a 9-5 job.
@Tackleberry666
@Tackleberry666 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear i know. I am one myself ;)
@bonbondesel
@bonbondesel 5 жыл бұрын
FujinBeatz the reality is that before managing to be a professional pilot, you'll be doing 2 to 3 jobs + studying + find money and time for flying, all that being in good shape. The risk: loosing everything and being in dept while exhausted. I'm not talking about a 1 to 2 year plan with this limitation... it's most likely for 3 yo 4 years in reality. Sacrifices. I'm in the process right now. I can tell you if anything goes wrong, you're done. And the licences you have leads you to NOTHING in the other jobs if you fail.
@sofsande
@sofsande 5 жыл бұрын
FujinBeatz You can always change jobs.Become an airline pillot then.I just hate jealous people.
@nm628679c
@nm628679c 5 жыл бұрын
@@bonbondesel - Why didn't you join the air force and actually get paid to learn?
@bonbondesel
@bonbondesel 5 жыл бұрын
@@nm628679c I wonder if it is a serious question for curiosity or a sarcastic comment as the reasons seem so obvious. In case it's a real question, here is my answer: Entering in the civil aviation or in aviation by the military door is far from being the easiest way even if it does not require to pay for it. Military selection is by far the hardest one to be a pilot. It is more selective that the state schools selections that are themselves harder than the whole pilot training to be an airline pilot. Remember that military do not look for just a pilot. They want warriors. Both medical and intellect tests are more difficult than any pilot's tests. I did not want to be a military pilot. So why push the military door ? I don't have the level for elites state schools like a large amount of working airliner pilots. There is not so many options left if I want to achieve my project. So I've got to work hard and save money. There is no easy way anyway... However, getting in this job by joining the army as a pilot would have been anything but just get paid to learn ! The army in my country says about the pilot's selection tests: "we are looking for people who are born to fly in fighting scenarios. Not pilots, not pilots to train. We want raw jewels we can train. No people we will learn how to, but people we will make the best of the best." I think they're doing it well. In the 20 to 30 pro pilots I know, only one comes from the military aviation. There a reason for that and I hope I explained you well the reason why.
@bakenmemes6227
@bakenmemes6227 5 жыл бұрын
just 15 years old and you motivating me for this men go on!
@triflyr4033
@triflyr4033 5 жыл бұрын
I loved my flying career. 24 years of flying before being medically disqualified from the flightdeck from a random autoimmune disease. So it doesn't really matter if you think you keep yourself in shape and healthy, anything can happen. Being a pilot is physically and mentally demanding. The job of actually flying becomes routine because you are so well trained and doing it so often. Thank goodness for the daily obstacles of weather, maintenance, delays, etc. The real stressors of being a pilot are like 74 Gear says; always continuing education and training, sleep deprivation due to constantly swapping time zones and lack of layover times, being away from home and family (which places a heavy burden on the spouse), failing a medical exam and worrying constantly about loosing a career. Things have changed a great deal with the job availability currently. I never in my career saw anything like what is currently happening in the industry. In fact, when I was hired it was only 20 months before my 1st of 3 furloughs took place. There were guys hired 11 months ahead of me that made captain within 3 years. It took my class 15 years. Things change for the worse in a second in this field. Also there is the commuting factor. Very few pilots get hired into a job that is based in their home town. So usually right off the bat you'll be relocating (or commuting) to some less-than-desirable city. Commuting isn't fun. It cost you time from your days off to get to and from work and it's unpaid time. Many times the flights are full and you are stuck up front in a jumpseat so don't plan on resting. Despite all the negatives it is still the best office in the world. I mean, you're flying at the peak level of the profession, what could possibly be better?
@dudettegirl3261
@dudettegirl3261 5 жыл бұрын
Who do you fly for? What seat are you in?
@jazzlives
@jazzlives 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest videos 74 Gear. I absolutely hate the ones that military prima donnas will occasionally post which make this career sound like a hollywood movie. It's not like that, its a tough job that doesn't pay well with poor quality of life and high buy in cost, high opportunity costs, and high jeopardy for job loss. THATS what kind of career it is. You have to really love the glamor to want to do this and anyone who has done it more than 6 months knows nobody even thinks it glamorous any more. The only reason I can think of to do this career would be if one has a mad, unbridled, almost neurotic need to fly. Flying is definitely fun, but at what cost? Thanks again.
@maschwab63
@maschwab63 5 жыл бұрын
Give the Wheat Belly diet a try for an autoimmune disease.
@Ai-Jay
@Ai-Jay 5 жыл бұрын
It could be good and the “office” could be enjoyable if you are flying regional or in a short haul fleet, if you are in a cargo or long haul fleet, what could possibly be better? YOUR HEALTH, FAMILY, THE ABILITY TO HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER YOUR TIME TO REST AND CARE ABOUT THINGS YOU CARE.
@Audiogeek-kf2ez
@Audiogeek-kf2ez 5 жыл бұрын
My father had the unglamorous job of air freight for North Central,Republic,and NWA. All on 34th st on the west side of MSP international for 35 years of his 38. Years in the airline industry. He would do weight and balance for cargo in any aircraft in his head. He enjoyed his job. He was a person who in the late 50s and early 60s would put 100 hours a week in the rapidly expanding industry. Not alk the employees of airlines are pilots.but they still enjoyed themselves as much.
@nicflatterie7772
@nicflatterie7772 4 жыл бұрын
I am in IT. Studying, I have to relearn my entire job every 5 years, technology changes. Jobs, same thing, fired, contract ends, company goes to sh@#,... training, well degree, university fees, working at the same time. But I get to sleep, have regular hours and if I mess something up, I just shutdown and reboot ;-) love the channel !
@hurricane7800
@hurricane7800 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently doing a degree+internship programme in business informatics... Meanwhile dreaming of switching to aviation once I finish because, well, it's my dream, and I cannot seem to shake it! :D
@amalgamatenull5167
@amalgamatenull5167 5 жыл бұрын
5:24 I wouldn’t be able to know how good of a pilot you are but I can tell you a lot of people love you!
@weakbruteforce
@weakbruteforce 5 жыл бұрын
My new favorite channel! Keep up the good work!
@weakbruteforce
@weakbruteforce 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear Huge sim fan that always wanted to go to flight school. I'm a little "long in the tooth" right now so I'm not sure it's a good idea. However, using your formula I have at least 16 years of commercial flying if I started in the new year. Your video on the subject encouraged me to seriously consider chasing the dream. Again, the videos are great, please keep posting!
@ReverendTFunk
@ReverendTFunk 5 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about being an airline pilot? How about having to tell ATC, "I think we're going to end up in the Hudson..?"
@timothyradchishin1197
@timothyradchishin1197 5 жыл бұрын
lmaooo
@andytaylor1588
@andytaylor1588 4 жыл бұрын
Naw, that's just cool.
@amenchoudhury8036
@amenchoudhury8036 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you're name is sully
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, because that’s such a common occurrence
@faulltw
@faulltw Жыл бұрын
Love your channel and another great video! I am not a pilot, but I was in charge of the office that tracked flight hours and training for C-130 crews in the Air Force. Additionally, my wife is an engineer for Dassault. Anyway, the Air Force is a great way to get training and flight time and get paid well for it. Take care.
@dondash8921
@dondash8921 3 жыл бұрын
I think your 'bad' is far outweighed by the 'good' but I do agree the costs would be the worst. In my opinion, it is like working on a cruise ship waiter. Long hours for little pay. But it's still something people accept when they want to pilot a 747 or any commercial plane. Good for you Kelsey. When I lived in northern Canada, I was speaking with a retired 747 captain. I was telling him about the Aurora Borealis & he replied "I flew to Europe regularly. Try looking at them over the Arctic at 37,000 feet." You could see the love in his eyes. That's why it's worth it.
@gustavbastholm5141
@gustavbastholm5141 4 жыл бұрын
3:46 Just to calm you down... I was born without a finger on my right hand and still got my class 1. So dont worry 😂
@hassan99
@hassan99 5 жыл бұрын
You remind of Dewey from Malcolm in middle. Great channel by the way.
@Bad_Santa_Live
@Bad_Santa_Live 4 жыл бұрын
hassan99 just spit out my tea. Thank you
@Ontheflywithben
@Ontheflywithben 5 жыл бұрын
I’m totally enjoying your very informative videos! After a 23 year career in the Air Force as an enlisted Airman who’s switching careers, you’re providing answers to my questions! Keep it coming! Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas to you and yours! Fly safe...
@MoiraOBrien
@MoiraOBrien 5 жыл бұрын
Every profession has Continuing Professional Development and I would have thought that for an airline pilot this is probably more important than in any other profession.
@chad1755
@chad1755 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear Yeah I agree. The annual written exams that were all the same as the last year, and the year before that, were a real drag. Gotta tick the boxes for Transport Canada/FAA though.
@cassian7931
@cassian7931 3 жыл бұрын
watching this today is crazy. what a change of video quality
@calebschultz6724
@calebschultz6724 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It really gives one a broader perspective of what the job entails.
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
happy to do it Caleb, glad you liked it.
@sonumathewvj
@sonumathewvj 5 жыл бұрын
You are a good video presenter. Usually, having gone through hundreds of videos of various genres, I find it mostly extremely boring to watch a video from the beginning to end. However, I found your video really captivating in terms of the content and your presentation.
@clevelandaeromotive
@clevelandaeromotive 5 жыл бұрын
#6 Dead-wood, senior captain’s at the regional airlines that feel they’re entitled to be rude.
@art2633
@art2633 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, just wanted to say your channel has a very great content. For me, as a Master in Aerospace Engineer your content adds up to all of design classes and more. Thanks for sharing.
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
well I wouldn't go that far, I just am happy to explain things to new pilots and people who love airplanes. Really appreciate it though Panicz and for all that you do so we pilots can do what we do!!
@art2633
@art2633 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear Do you have an email so I can have perhaps an interview with you. This interview is based upon a part of my Masters studies and I'd really appreciate your opinion on the matter. Thanks
@Jopanaguiton
@Jopanaguiton 5 жыл бұрын
I’m working as a survey pilot to build time making 39K annual and I fly 80 hours a month. So even if it takes longer than working as CFI I love what I do and for me that’s what matters.
@chad1755
@chad1755 5 жыл бұрын
I was a survey pilot (geophysical) for 7 years. Weather is always a real drag on flight hours for us. I remember sitting for almost a month in Kuujjuaq waiting out snowstorms so we could get a 4 flight job done. 80 hrs/month sounds pretty good actually. I think I averaged more like 400 hrs/year. Survey flying can be very challenging (at least geophysical is because its low altitude, high precision), but I can see how making the switch to the airlines could be difficult. Very different kind of flying.
@suntpcruise4057
@suntpcruise4057 5 жыл бұрын
It's all about making money big fella
@iblessking650
@iblessking650 4 жыл бұрын
CFI’s build hours faster?
@MikeBrown-ex9nh
@MikeBrown-ex9nh 5 жыл бұрын
Many pilots are former military. That seems like a good way to get training and hours at someone else's expense.
@dude_whats_even_happening
@dude_whats_even_happening 4 жыл бұрын
That's currently my plan
@Gajoobles
@Gajoobles 4 жыл бұрын
A yes state sponsored terrorism always does the trick.
@vlada
@vlada 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gajoobles it's ok, some people have no problems killing perfect strangers based on the orders of their 'boss' and the mafia jobs aint what it used to be.
@rex8255
@rex8255 4 жыл бұрын
All of that assumes you can get into the military, qualify to be an officer (a college degree and OCS at the least), THEN get into flight school and don't wash out (in which case you still have to complete your enlistment), and of course don't get caught up in some clusterfuck that lands you in a body bag. If you want to become a professional pilot, I'm pretty sure just getting your butt into a flight school will be easier. The schools want money, the military wants years of your life.
@migga86
@migga86 3 жыл бұрын
It's called military pilot because the main part is military. You should check Movers (C. W. Lemoine) channel. The way to become a commercial pilot should be a way you like. If you like being sent around the world and killing people you would have never met, go for it. If you hate killing, then you should not join the military at all. There will be killing involved. And there will be early morning wake up calls. Bonus fact: Joining them is no guarantee to become a pilot even if you are told so when signing. Also the military sets a rule book for how pilots must be (height, weight, sight, etc.), having stricter standards than commercial pilots.
@cdreid9999
@cdreid9999 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing how hard you study and how you work to constantly improve honestly makes me 1000 times more secure in how good professional pilots are. Im working to get my pilots certificate and have just begun to understand the sheer volume you guys have to learn and constantly relearn And airlines should select who flies the biggest jets etc like the trucking industry does. Im a very experienced trucker with a very good record. So if a company wants me they have to pay for that. The most senior guys at that company will get the 'best' routes.. ie dedicated home daily high paying etc. But i wont be competing with a newbie or a guy with a years experience. They know i have people trying to blow up my phone to hire me.. he doesnt really.
@Migs3
@Migs3 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to learn how little pilots get paid in relation to their responsibility, I respect you all very much. I remember the days when pilots would greet you and now all that is gone. It's really nice when a pilot says something to make you laugh and takes the tension out of flying. I have a feeling this channel of yours keeps you sane by connecting with people. I'm nit cargo, but it would be fun to shake your hand someday. So if you're in Bolivia look me up.
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
well I like giving back and on a long layover definitely something to do. But I see people everyday 🤣
@gregflury3919
@gregflury3919 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I fly for fun.. I LOVE aviation. Once I get my instrument rating...that's it for me.
@fernandobrito6126
@fernandobrito6126 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching your videos, I love your channel!
@thomasmoriarty6741
@thomasmoriarty6741 5 жыл бұрын
Having worked on trains for 30yrs I can relate to the early hours.
@almilani4300
@almilani4300 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. 30 years on the railroad was a mother fucker. These PILOTS COULDNT CUT IT.
@michaelvd2467
@michaelvd2467 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what I do now, my alarm clock goes off at around 2 to 3 am some days, and other days I get home from work at around 2 to 3 am :p
@EmissionGaming
@EmissionGaming 9 ай бұрын
At first you really annoyed me for some reason, then I became addicted and binge watching your stuff, now I’m having withdrawals 😢, understandable though and I really hope you enjoy your taking a step back and I know when you return it will be worth the wait!!!
@Jimbo-in-Thailand
@Jimbo-in-Thailand 5 жыл бұрын
+1 Kelsey - Just discovered your channel recently and really appreciate your personal perspective so just subscribed. ;) I might have had a similar career but bad timing got in the way of my dream. As a young USAF F-4E Phantom fighter jet crew chief during the late Vietnam War I had planned to use my VA educational benefits to train to become a commercial pilot, which was an option at that time. Unfortunately for me, and other veterans with similar plans, the winding down of that hugely unpopular unnecessary conflict resulted in many high time extremely well qualified military pilots becoming surplus 'stock'. Huge numbers were discharged (RIF-ed - Reduction In Force) in 1974-75. This meant that I had zero chance of getting hired as a pilot with such competition. Instead, I went to college and later got my PPL, bought a Cessna, and enjoyed flying recreationally until it simply got too expensive. No regrets, but I sometimes wonder how life might have been different had I been able to don an airline pilot's wings and uniform, such as yourself. A big thumbs up to you for realizing your dream. Cheers from Thailand and hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
@kenlee9874
@kenlee9874 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimbo, I think you probably found happiness in other things in life ,and I think your happy in Thailand. Thanks
@NICH12
@NICH12 4 жыл бұрын
Not an airline pilot yet, currently on the road to CFI and the first point he put hits hard on the feel. Noodles really be my savior ever since I started the flight school.
@InspireFGPN
@InspireFGPN 5 жыл бұрын
Lol at the “not this guy” part. You’re flying a 747 so you gotta be doing something right. Unless you brake backs and cause earthquakes while landing Lol
@starsloyalist
@starsloyalist 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best at the interwebs Kelsey. Great presentation and great content!!
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this video back in 2003 right before I enrolled into ERAU, trying to become a professional/airline pilot... it would have saved me 4 years of wasted time and 82k student loans in debt.
@christine9385
@christine9385 5 жыл бұрын
Studying may be a pain... but trust me..I appreciate that you do!!
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
😆 I know its a necessary thing we do and thats why its there.
@yogibizzel8808
@yogibizzel8808 4 жыл бұрын
Woow you look tired bro ; p can you do a video about pilot schedules and rostering and if there are possibilities for being a part time pilot or any Monday to Friday pilot jobs . Thanks keep up the great work 👍✈️🤘😎
@PatrickBijvoet
@PatrickBijvoet 5 жыл бұрын
A few of those things you mentioned are also applicable to other jobs. Anyway, I do agree with you list.
@Arkeze
@Arkeze 5 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about being an airline pilot is not being an airline pilot.
@jzqhmzhvsvoh8721
@jzqhmzhvsvoh8721 5 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 YEAH YOU R RIGHT
@Infection3d
@Infection3d 5 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@sofsande
@sofsande 5 жыл бұрын
Are you jeoulus?If you are i advise you to become an airline pilot and embrace all that comes with it.Estúpido
@launabanauna8958
@launabanauna8958 5 жыл бұрын
Cody Columbia Well said!
@speedmon16
@speedmon16 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah agree with u 😭
@brendonadams9330
@brendonadams9330 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel. This is really awesome! The idea of traveling seems fun, but I understand it wouldn't be like a vacation, you're likely going to be flying another flight the very next day. Mostly you're just going to see the airport and the hotel you stay at. My military experience has made sleep deprivation a very normal part of my life. Long, very long hours are common. I think I would really enjoy being a pilot, and there's a potential to make triple or more my current salary after obtaining enough experience. In the military I've been exposed to all weather conditions, and worked in all the best and worst weather outside, all day, and sometimes all night, conducting inspections, maintenance and training with military equipment. So, yeah, I gotta find the best path to go from nothing, to commercial pilot as quickly as possible. I'll be free to attend training at any location that accepts a GI bill. So please, share your knowledge, thoughts, and ideas. I'd like to know especially if you have information about this for those transitioning from the military.
@chad1755
@chad1755 5 жыл бұрын
My list (worst part of being a CAR 702 pilot, equiv to 135 FAR): - Constantly away from home, meaning no social life, long stretches away from wife and kids - The boredom. After several thousand hours, flying just isn't exciting anymore -- even doing low altitude high precision aerial work - Low pay. I never made it to the airlines, so the most I ever made was around $50k/yr That's about it actually. Everything else about it was pretty good, and my job at least was a pretty great adventure when I was young and single, but after almost a decade doing it, those 3 were deal breakers for me.
@jonivogel3188
@jonivogel3188 5 жыл бұрын
50.000? I fly for Swiss Airlines and I 130.000€ a year and I have much time for familiy too
@yayahenry8727
@yayahenry8727 5 жыл бұрын
Chad why didn’t you make it to the airline?
@ad-ir3wk
@ad-ir3wk 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I’m in my 50’s now and wanted to be a commercial airline pilot ( and flying big iron like you) a l l my life. Well I didn’t but I fell into a profession that almost has the same downsides. After seeing this video I don’t feel so bad. Thanks for the info. I’m now a subscriber 👌🏽🙂
@gotemlookin20
@gotemlookin20 5 жыл бұрын
Trucker
@RiverDogRun
@RiverDogRun 2 жыл бұрын
The hours and lifestyle are even more stringent for a doctor, which I have been for the last 24 years.
@jorgeestiels8600
@jorgeestiels8600 5 жыл бұрын
My flight instructor told me that aviation caused him two divorces. According to him, that is the hardest part. Great Channel!
@thekommandantvulpes
@thekommandantvulpes 5 жыл бұрын
That is transportation in general. I drive tractor trailers for a living, its divorce country in that industry too.
@Thebgy1
@Thebgy1 5 жыл бұрын
Marriage/Divorce no longer serves a helping purpose in a man's life. The court systems are bias under the "Deluth Model," even towards men who are innocent law bidding citizens. To those law bidding men of established countries, cut your losses to women while you still can. Eat healthy, excercise moderately, rest as much as possible, work legally, follow the laws and pursue your dreams a day at a time. If you can manage that, you will have considerably less life problems, and attain happiness at ease. "Salute to all my fellow law bidding men who we're victimized by the unjust court systems of established countries."
@Airplanepilot501
@Airplanepilot501 5 жыл бұрын
Divorce is high in almost any job that involves long tine away from home, like law enforcement.
@Thebgy1
@Thebgy1 5 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, divorce is high, because its better for women to now gain assets and property from a divorce than marriage itself. As a man, its sad to see hard working men go through a divorce. Please don't be the next man to suffer from this.
@whatthebleep2810
@whatthebleep2810 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a sorry excuse for a divorce! It takes a strong relationship to be committed in the faces of multiple absences. I know because I endured my husband’s never ending deployments when he served in the military and now as an airline pilot. I just remember and appreciate the sacrifices he’s making and support him in his endeavors. Men or women who say they’re battling constant loneliness may have a legit concern but in the end s/he only thinks about him or herself when the breadwinning spouse must be away constantly and divorce is the only way out of misery.
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid I grew up living between 3 Eastern airline pilots they were Gods to me I did go on and get my private license and I probably have I don't know if 1000 hours maybe main event I've been really upset about the whole concept of medicating pilot so they're happy enough to fly the airplane and just seemed to me that if a pilot doesn't think he's luckiest man in the world to be flying a big Jet and have a decent job like that you shouldn't be there. You see airline pilots flying airshows because they just can't get enough of it. Someone like Julie Clark always flies are playing up to cruising altitude and then puts it on autopilot she's retired now but she seems to have inspired me about her story becoming a pilot so anybody who has a problem that what they had to do be to become a commercial pilot should read Julie Clark's book. Keep up the good work with your videos
@akeeldberg5218
@akeeldberg5218 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was very interesting. Before watching this I had two ideas about this job: first, that you need to pay a extreme amount of money to get the necessary education. This isn't just for pilots, it's also about the training to become an air hostess, steward or whatever. You pay for it and if you don't succeed, you're out with a big debt and no job. Who would even dare to enroll in an uncertain future career in such a business? Second, pilots are paid crap when new in the job and then pay increases as they get more flying time. In Sweden where I live, I've been told that a new pilot gets about as much as an assistant nurse, whereas a senior captain makes more money than a senior surgeon in a big hospital. All that matters to this their increase is flying time. I'm a civil administrator. I have 4 years of academic education, costing a lot but once I graduate, I'm almost certain to get a job. With this, I start out getting something like an assistant nurse's pay, and if I eventually get to the absolute top of what I can make in my profession (director boss type of job), I could make twice that at the end of my career. This being LESS THAN HALF of what a senior pilot makes. I've even been told that junior pilots are harrassing senior ones to retire, in order to open up more of the high-paying jobs because the difference between average pilot pay and the top-paid guys is astronomical. Should this inequality not be a major concern for pilots? If the job is to get from A to B in an airplane, and most junior pilots manage this just as well as senior ones, why is there such an extreme difference?
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 2 жыл бұрын
Not paying a new or junior pilot who’s just joined the company even a decent amount seems a bit crazy to me. Not only because actually getting to be a qualified pilot is stupidly expensive, but being a pilot is a very difficult job from what I can tell. The way airlines run, with one pilot actually flying and the other doing all the other things, plus the numerous checklists implies to me that flying a commercial plane is so difficult that it stretches out the absolute maximum memory and processing power that the human brain is capable of. It seems to me that commercial piloting is at the very upper limits of what humans can handle. Not only that but the sheer level of responsibility is staggering, given that the pilots are responsible for the safety and lives of hundreds of people. And let’s be honest. The pilots are risking their lives every time they fly because if something goes very wrong the chances of survival are abysmally low. So yeah given all those factors along with a few I haven’t thought of, the idea of not paying them well seems really illogical to me. I mean, look how much football/soccer players earn. It’s truly mind bending that footballers can earn insane amounts of money for what amounts to kicking a ball around a big field. It’s not a dangerous job, it doesn’t have any practical purpose and it doesn’t perform any important things that benefit society. It doesn’t contribute anything useful to society. It’s basically just entertainment. But paying a small amount to pilots who actually have a useful job that does benefit society is daft. But then I already think that it’s the pilots, scientists, doctors, care assistants and other essential key roles that should be paid the most. The ones keeping society working, not the ones that kicks a ball around a field just for fun.
@sumtingwong8768
@sumtingwong8768 Жыл бұрын
Let me explain it "offer me money, offer me power, offer me fame" - i do not care
@timothykissinger4883
@timothykissinger4883 5 жыл бұрын
As a long haul truck driver,one of the things I hate as a driver is winter weather.I was surprised that it wasn't one of the things you would hate as a pilot.
@trevorgwelch7412
@trevorgwelch7412 5 жыл бұрын
A Pilot told me he doesn’t like having to hold his bladder when having to fly in a holding pattern .
@kensingtonchapp4819
@kensingtonchapp4819 5 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely. Im a helicopter pilot. We're typically not flying longer than an hour or 1.5 hours at a time, but there's always that one flight where i drink a bunch of soda or coffee beforehand and neglect to pee first. Ive had many deliberate no-hover landings just to get immediately to the watercloset.
@bobobeebee9554
@bobobeebee9554 4 жыл бұрын
That's horrible! They should be allow to throw a blanket over their lap, cover their genitals, and pee in a bottle. That totally is do-able. And their are attachments for ladies now too. Or the flight gear could include emergency pee openings in outfits that open in the front...😆
@hassaneldeeb8264
@hassaneldeeb8264 4 жыл бұрын
Pilots can go to the bathroom
@zorakj
@zorakj 4 жыл бұрын
@@hassaneldeeb8264 Depends on where you are in flight.
@robertsantiago953
@robertsantiago953 3 жыл бұрын
@@kensingtonchapp4819 i think that can make you fail the medical exam if you mention that to the doctor . Coffee is super annoying feeling Avoid that sucker
@FooTech1976
@FooTech1976 5 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you want to wake up at 4am in January in Canada? LOL (I'm Canadian and have lived in about the coldest part of the country for 18 years, so I know what you mean!) Great channel man, i've really been enjoying it and subbed. At 43, I'm retiring from a 21 year military career and starting flight school in the spring! I'll be watching your future videos! Good luck!
@timotheethibault3223
@timotheethibault3223 3 жыл бұрын
Ah kelsey, you said ok great and my phone understood ok google and open itself 😅🤣😂
@deadstick8624
@deadstick8624 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, but the one thing you didn't mention, which I was surprised about, and I see some others here did mention it, and that is being gone all the time. I was a C-141 Flight Engineer, decades ago, and did not pursue an airline job for that reason. I had my hours and ratings even before I became a Flight Engineer, but I was gone all the time. I met my wife during the last year of my enlistment, and got married a week before I got out. Being a crew member and being married did not work out for most of the guys I knew. I was committed to being with my wife and I don't regret not going to the airlines for that reason. We have been married 34 years now, and we are still crazy about each other. Good Luck to you, sir.
@thekommandantvulpes
@thekommandantvulpes 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to transition currently from a trucking career to a flying career. Trucking is the vessel of how I make enough income to be able to afford flight training. Be glad you can only name 5 things that aren't too great about being an airline pilot. I could write a book on why it sucks to drive 40 ton vehicles for a living.
@thekommandantvulpes
@thekommandantvulpes 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear I appreciate it! I've been working on building my networks in the aviation community. I'll be returning to flight training again here in April as I was involved in a motorcycle accident 2 months ago that required metal plates being put in my hand. Once I get caught up on my medical bills i'll be diving back into it!
@icecreamnoel7233
@icecreamnoel7233 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I’m currently saving up to go to atp flight school.
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
Soviet Fox and you'll still get that medical. So instead of hauling 20 tons, you'll be hauling 200 tons and being miserable? Don't quit your day job.
@daddyhotpockets
@daddyhotpockets 5 жыл бұрын
THEAE VIDEOS ARE AMAZING! This channel is underrated!
@DUBEE43
@DUBEE43 5 жыл бұрын
As a 747 pilot, please cover Airport 77... A classic!!! Charlton Heston, Karen black.....
@Abdul-nw1pw
@Abdul-nw1pw 5 жыл бұрын
Hardest thing once I become a pilot is probably paying off the loan and saving for a living 🤔 hmmm....
@christrinder1255
@christrinder1255 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same to get a skipper licence on a large yacht, and keeping yourself constantly updated. Plus your responsibile for everything on the yacht including organising the maintenance, entertaining etc.
@launabanauna8958
@launabanauna8958 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informative videos. I think my daughter would make a good pilot. She’s 16, just starting her young adult life. I am going to suggest “Airline Pilot,” to her. Wish me luck...lol
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
well good luck on that Launa, and if she ever has any questions have her come leave a comment, I will see what I can do to answer them.
@JakeSpeed1000
@JakeSpeed1000 4 жыл бұрын
Those are common for many professions. While the official "1st Class Medical" is somewhat unique, health issues are a worry for all of us as we age. I guess the grass is always greener... but those all seem relatively minor. We all live in fear of out company closing or our jobs being outsourced. I would have listed being away from family and friends at the top.
@michaelsaylor7625
@michaelsaylor7625 5 жыл бұрын
I fly for a Regional airline now after retiring from the Navy and I don’t have many complaints. After my experiences with non stop war I.e. deployments to many god forsaken places, anything is better! It really depends on your perspective. For instance, My children are almost all grown now so being away isn’t as bad for us. They see me more now than when I was in the Navy. One piece of advice is to at least research the labor contract of the company you think you want to work for. Ok another piece of advice: unless you LOVE it don’t do it. Give yourself an “out”. If you get into this job and realize it isn’t for you, have a contingency plan to get out of it and do something else. Ciao!
@Blackout_1692
@Blackout_1692 4 жыл бұрын
You think being away from your kid's isn't bad just there grown well it sucks I'm 21 my dad moved to Michigan last year and it really sucks
@Justin-id3km
@Justin-id3km 3 жыл бұрын
Well thank goodness my current job prepares me for all of this lol. Annual medicals with the lingering thought I could get pulled from the program and loose my work position, constant studying to maintain my quals every 6 months to a year, waking up at 4am everyday and being in a constant state of perpetual tiredness. The only thing is the student debt. Even with GI Bill covering most of it, the amount of student loans to keep up with flight school is stressing me out. But, flying is something I've always wanted to do.
@farmers-daughter2000
@farmers-daughter2000 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the health field and I had so many hrs of education to keep up my certification.
@DarthDainese
@DarthDainese 4 жыл бұрын
I may be only an HGV driver but failing a medical never crosses my mind I’m with ya, 4am ain’t when I want to be hauling 26 tonne down the road
@derekneedham3164
@derekneedham3164 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine that over-the-road long-haul truck drivers have it just as tough
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf 5 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with the studying part. I spend 900 hours a year in the air and use that time to review systems, memory items and procedures on a routine basis so I do not have to open a book at home on my time off. Let me ask you this- Do you study before an emergency? That’s why you have to always know your stuff and not just before sim.
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
well I study on my overnights because I am not able to focus on flying and reading at the same time I am not a great multi tasker like that.
@rockyrabalais3776
@rockyrabalais3776 5 жыл бұрын
74 Gear Coudnt have said it better my self
@evanbrende
@evanbrende 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Kelsey has gotten so much better at these videos lol! Very cool to see how far he has come :)
@barryboone420
@barryboone420 6 жыл бұрын
this video was interesting 👏🏽 keep it up
@DonnieDin
@DonnieDin 3 жыл бұрын
A video with a timeline on how you, or most people, became a pilot and the timeline from where they went from there would be really interesting. Example: flight school at 21, got your hours over 12 months, first Job at 23, got picked up by an airlines 3 years later, got a better airline job 5 more years later, etc. Great video though!
@RandleMcMurphy123
@RandleMcMurphy123 5 жыл бұрын
@74gear Good video. But No 4 is so not pilot specific. Can happen literally in any job anywhere.
@TheMrsSaito
@TheMrsSaito 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Canada where its snowy and COLD. I don’t blame you for not wanting to get up at 4am in our winters, in the dark. I still hate it, even after 30 years!
@kavehsaviation1921
@kavehsaviation1921 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell he's so tired lol get some rest man it's a pain to see you like this
@giosangan
@giosangan 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel my friend, I’m Mexican and I came here to USA to get my license... I just started but 9 hours is not to bad for 15 days training 😅
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
fantastic Gio... if you ever have any questions let me know I fly to Mexico sometimes still haven't gotten to do a layover there... thanks for being part of the 74 crew.
@liotcik
@liotcik 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the veideo. Fair enugh. Wish you best luck.
@davidviens1293
@davidviens1293 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! When I was a kid I wanted to be an independent truck driver. I was inspired by the song Convoy by C W McCall. Then I found out what you have to do to become an independent truck driver . You have to go to school for training and drive for trucking companies before you can do it independently. Also, being an independent truck driver is a hard and lonely life, which is why I never became one. This video reminded me of that. Today I do cleaning.
@rosegroshek1218
@rosegroshek1218 3 жыл бұрын
The job security part of this didn’t age well....I hope this economy recovers someday
@MrPantss
@MrPantss 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was made before Covid, I work in IT in the airline industry on flight management software and believed nothing would kill the airline industry, the layoffs within weeks of covid in March 2020 was shocking and it’s still going on!
@lordpreminger
@lordpreminger 4 жыл бұрын
When your from Poland and are going to move back to get free flight school so can’t realllyyyyy relate to the first one
@charlee2470
@charlee2470 4 жыл бұрын
There is free flight school in poland? Where?
@lordpreminger
@lordpreminger 4 жыл бұрын
Any university and stuff like that is free but you need to be polish, or marry someone polish and be married for at least three years, or you either might need to be fluent and have ancestors so, you need to be polish basically
@nickelfrizz
@nickelfrizz Жыл бұрын
That actually makes me feel better. I got a bachelor's and master's in an unrelated field. I was feeling like it all was a waste if I became a pilot. But it sounds like that's good to have as a backup in case I fail the medical later.
@blakebella2273
@blakebella2273 5 жыл бұрын
👍 your demeanor 🙂
@johnpick8336
@johnpick8336 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Service Cpt. Kelsey !
@taspats8701
@taspats8701 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Here is another question; Where is better pay,operating cargo planes or passenger?
@MineCrafterCity
@MineCrafterCity 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much studying your talking about but I feel like it might be pretty similair to programming where after you've gotten a job as a developer you still have to update your knowledge and skills. That's actually one of the things I like the most.
@pete3445
@pete3445 Жыл бұрын
Does a programmer get put in front of a keyboard and have a series of software failures, then given a finite amount of time to fix the problem, or hundreds of people die? If you fail you’re fired. Yeah not really the same.
@johnathandoe9346
@johnathandoe9346 5 жыл бұрын
Worst part about being an airline pilot: ILS22/4 KEWR in weather. Best part about being an airline pilot: ILS22/4 KEWR in weather.
@johnathandoe9346
@johnathandoe9346 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear I'm a freight dog, so gate hold times are not an issues, usually. But if I have an early morning trip across the Atlantic from EWR we'll get stuck in the red eyes traffic jam that NY TRICON airports are known for.
@johnathandoe9346
@johnathandoe9346 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear A large brown and white 767
@johnathandoe9346
@johnathandoe9346 5 жыл бұрын
@@74gear 😎
@JetFuelnSawDust
@JetFuelnSawDust 5 жыл бұрын
That approach isn’t too bad. It’s when it’s busy and they cram us in with 2.5-3 mi spacing that it gets fun. River visual 19 at DCA is the best approach on the east coast. A close second (to me) is the Parkway Visual at Kennedy. The worst part is learning you have an EDCT over an hour after you’ve already pushed because clearance forgot to include it on your PDC.
@johnathandoe9346
@johnathandoe9346 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the most beautiful approach is SPANE going into Salt Lake City, but the worst ( hardest for me at least )by far is Stansted in the UK, their noise abatement rules makes it harder then it should be.
@garypugh1153
@garypugh1153 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 67. Got private in '75 with cessna 150's. Rented a few hundred times between '76 and 2016. Flying cessna 152's around town with friends is fun. No schedule. No pay, but fun. I just flew airline to boston and back to orlando. Airbus . I just hope and pray the 2 pilots are straight not drunk and have good sleep and in a good wide awake mood as we take off. Us passengers are at yor mercy. It was a nice flight. Thank you 🇺🇸
@noahphilip4837
@noahphilip4837 5 жыл бұрын
Class one medical is scary as hell
@bae215
@bae215 5 жыл бұрын
My list is rather different. EU Airline Pilot with one of the Majors: - Disruptive Schedules: on a 5-4 rotation pattern, I can sometimes flip from earlies to late twice (!). Fatigue incoming! - Flight Duty Period (FDP) of up to 13:00 hours per day. I have yet to experience a day this long that did not cause errors or slips - Away from friends and family - Never having weekends off, holidays or special occasions. The social profile can be hard to maintain!
@desertdog7171
@desertdog7171 5 жыл бұрын
1. Commuting 2. The Public 3. Recurrent 4. Medical Exam Anxiety 5. Hotel Housekeeping
@desertdog7171
@desertdog7171 5 жыл бұрын
I have a similar job to yours now, no more commutes. Nice job on the videos.
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 5 жыл бұрын
I've banged the maids in Colombia and Thailand... it's a fun extra perk sometimes! Lol!
@janhoyle1462
@janhoyle1462 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I took a free lesson once, loved it. I never thought about student loans to learn. I’m still paying off my art school. I loved UC, Irvine. I’m not much of a book person. I saw the manual my friends dad had to get licensed & it was the thickest book I have ever seen! So I changed my mind.
@sherwinsalvatori6997
@sherwinsalvatori6997 5 жыл бұрын
1 Cost is the main reason I haven't obtained my ppl,2 studies
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
Cost is the *only* reason I haven't obtained my Commercial ATP ♦ A trainer now costs 141 Operators a stunning ¼-Million
@rodneyduran9507
@rodneyduran9507 5 жыл бұрын
I so wholeheartedly agree with you....still searching intensely for a a clearer rout to at least obtaining my dues for my next 3 classes!! THANK YOU!!!
@RJ1Reed
@RJ1Reed 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Plus, “you always need to have a second job” said a Captain for Kalitta Air. Sucks but true. And don’t forget the disappointment from your spouse and kids when you can’t be there for Christmas, Thanksgiving, or graduation....every year.
@74gear
@74gear 5 жыл бұрын
fair point RJ... thanks for watching and leaving a comment, I appreciate it.
@cranjismcbasketball2118
@cranjismcbasketball2118 5 жыл бұрын
im an airline pilot... the worst part for me is flying... im really scared of heights!🥺
@danlieber9506
@danlieber9506 5 жыл бұрын
You are not a pilot then.
@mmoly-cj4bd
@mmoly-cj4bd 5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend from college who was flying then and always wanted to be a pilot. He is a good pilot and always very positive about it. He became a naval aviator flying C-2's and then upon getting out flew Saabs with a commuter airline back east. At that point he almost gave it up frustrated with low pay, lousy hours and job uncertainty. Fortunately, he got hired with Fedex and has been flying with them for 22 years. He is scheduled to retire in about 2 1/2 years. He he told me he is so sick of dragging a back around and staying in hotels it's ridiculous. He also mentioned he practically has to lock himself in a room to study for the annual testing which for him now is every 9 months. He changes his clothes and no longer wears his uniform when he can when going through airports so he doesn't have to answer dumb questions from the traveling public. If you knew him you would conclude he is a great guy and great pilot. No question here. The lesson really is, no matter what you do and how much you love it can simply turn into just a job with its pluses and minuses and routine. His wife says he has the best part-time gig in the world though. She has been with him though it all and helped cover the bills at times. And they chose not to have kids. I honestly don't think he could have done anything else successfully.
@whatthebleep2810
@whatthebleep2810 5 жыл бұрын
Everything we do can get really old especially if there are a lot of red tape and hassles involved (annual testing, commuting, med exams, being away from home, sleeping in crash pads, etc). I noticed that people seem to only enjoy jobs that requires creativity (art, music, movie production, design, etc). For the most part, the majority hates their job.
@mrcall3l9l75
@mrcall3l9l75 5 жыл бұрын
Dam that sucks that you lose your job if the airline goes oof wow
@haulem
@haulem 5 жыл бұрын
I was an over the road long distance motor coach operator. A lot of the exact things mentioned here applies to that industry as well.
@elunadavis8915
@elunadavis8915 5 жыл бұрын
How about commuting to work very stressful at times.
@magistrumartium
@magistrumartium 5 жыл бұрын
but at least you're on the ground.
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Это было очень близко...
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