Airline Pricing Makes No Sense... Why Not Abuse It?

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Yes but Air Koryo prices always make sense

[@thrashes6208]

Communism intensifies*

[@ThomasBob]

@@thrashes6208 yes... hehe....uh.. communism...

[@joshbartle1647]

Thrashes *soviet union anthem plays loudly in the background*

[@cheviot_]

*_aegukga intensifies_*

[@withlessAsbestos]

I think this guy might actually be from north.

[@fresagrus4490]

I wrote a bachelor thesis on this. Basically you can "pay" with time instead of money, being subject to ridiculous itineraries and times instead of effective, point to point travel as fast as possible. People don't see this as unfair because they normalised it, but it is. If meat or apples were priced the same way there would be an uproar

[@penguin87904]

Flying from Helsinki to Los Angeles Via Finnair 700€ roundtrip. Flying from Stockholm to Los Angeles via Helsinki 180€ roundtrip with Finnair. Seems legit.

[@thesuomi8550]

Tortillat avataan

[@walterclements7968]

Damn 180 roundtrip? Thats hella cheap

[@greggor07]

Finnair is clearly looking up to SAS. And here in Copenhagen even the budget flights are expensive with Norwegian, but you can find a ticket for a direct flight to LA at around $400, or cheaper if it's a one stop. I also usually fly via Sweden, which is just across the bridge, there's already good deals from Malmø and Gothenburg too. Still 180 euro for a round trip seems unbelievably cheap.

[@anton2672]

Stockholm Arlanda airport is really cheap across the pond for some reason - I managed to book $140 tickets to San Francisco with Swiss

[@Zapando]

I may as well swim to Queenstown from Sydney if it's gonna cost $700

[@smartinv]

Well guess what taking a plane from Toronto to New Delhi is $3000

[@eomoran]

@@smartinv well, given they are in different hemispheres, not the worst. Queenstown and Sydney are super close to one another, same continent, same hemisphere, barely a thousand miles apart

[@smartinv]

I also just found out that Toronto to New York is $492 minimum and that's 350 miles (2 hour flight)

[@taududeblobber221]

duolingo push?

[@lmmlStudios]

This hurts being in australia, when theres 1000km between cities

[@TotoDG]

I relate way too well with that. My family occasionally goes back to Argentina, so that’s the closest we get to travelling a lot. We can only afford to do it every so often, though.

[@sheafitzsimons5161]

Don't know if my country is 1000 km maybe 2000km

[@captaindiego228]

Jump in a kangaroo's pouch they'll take you there for free be carefull tho since your upside down you might fall out the pouch🤷‍♂️

[@pumpkiinface]

From where I live, I’m very lucky, it’s about 1 hour from Brisbane which is the closest International Airport/city. The next one is Sydne- 13 hours away :). Never done it but it would be nice to road trip around one day.

[@andrewfcgh]

I'm from Christchurch, New Zealand (a few hours drive from Queenstown) and $700+ AUD is insane... if you book at the correct time, you're able to book return tickets to many Australian cities departing Christchurch for $400 these days. You'd need to source a bus ticket (or drive yourself) to/from Queenstown/Christchurch but that's no more that $80 AUD. Ps. We don't have trains between these cities due to the mountainous environment surrounding Queenstown.

[@matthewdodd1262]

Aussie here $700 is crazy high But it is the fastest and most convenient way to travel. A boat is better, but way slower And Sydney to Perth doesnt take 2 days. Cairns to Brisbane takes 3 days, and that is roughly half the distance. Sydney to Perth takes a week by car easy

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Doddsy correct as I drove around Oz. The never ending roads ☺

[@rn8427]

Sydney to Perth would be 3 days of 14-16 hours. I drove from Perth to Adelaide in 2 days and Sydney is about another day from Adelaide.

[@Gresavvi]

If you were my geography teacher, or any teacher at this point, I'd actually listen and enjoy whatever it is that I'm learning. How do you make everything interesting, I-

[@54Luca69]

Ok so, in Australia we have something called AFL, and last year a Western Australia team got into the grand final of this game, and since the game was being held over in Melbourne, the fans in Perth who wanted to see it would have to fly to Melbourne, you’d think this isn’t a problem.. BUT because of high demand all the flights were raised to INSANE prices! I saw on the news that some tickets were going for $3500 AUD (2800 USD, £1900, €2200)! So some fans from Perth legitimately decided to drive from Perth to Melbourne, and oh boy I wouldn’t wanna be apart of that drive. Just shows how airplane companies really take advantage of current situations lol

[@54Luca69]

I live in Perth btw

[@klausjackklaus]

thats the problem with US airlines...i can fly out of my home city to london for $1,000, if i drive 4hrs to chicago i can fly for $800, but the cost of parking, fuel/train costs (and $45 for tolls), and/or hotel costs are so astronomical that most of us just pay the extra money because it's going to cost the same and there is more hassle to use another city that might be cheaper.

[@wollo6]

your name is andrew andrews? if thats true thats hilarious

[@georgehowarth2388]

No it's not (I've seen his real name before somewhere)

[@brendo3808]

Unless you're flying between capital cities, flights are super expensive in Australia. To fly between 2 regional cities in Australia, I.e Townsville to cairns, it's 261AUD for a 350km distance, from Brisbane to Melbourne, It's 164AUD for a over 1400km trip. It's ridiculous

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

I saw a guy fly from Gatwick to Vienna for ONE EURO CENT....it makes no sense at all. I wish flights in the US were like that. Even the distance from NYC to Montreal as well as Buffalo (yes a flight that stays in NY is still expensive) is expensive by both train and plane.

[@ala0284]

Avery The Cuban-American Paul’s trip reports

[@ibx2cat]

£4.99 is a pretty common price for ryanair flights in off peak times :)

[@Esablaka]

I once flew from Hamburg in north germany to mallorca (spanish island in the mediterranean sea) for 2.34€ .

[@fifi6883]

Paul Lucas one level right?

[@thesuomi8550]

@@Esablaka but that's inside one country since Mallorca is so full of Germans that it might as well be a German state

[@joshuawan7004]

One time I was flying from London Stansted to another city. The return ticket for the plane is cheaper than the return ticket for the train between Stansted and Liverpool Street.

[@TotoDG]

My local Australian airline, QANTAS, has an alliance with KLM. If only I could abuse them, I’d be going to Aruba and Amsterdam like there’s no tomorrow.

[@KleinOfficial]

The "nearby airports" button on Google flights is also very handy regarding that first tip

[@Webderful]

If you want its quite easy to view your options for stopovers on airwander

[@WilliamPreat]

As an aussie i can get a return flight to india for the price of the queenstown fare. Actually got back from queenstown a week ago and payed about the price as i was limited by dates.. love the videos man!

[@marcodesanti9304]

do you actually book round trip flights?? I never do that, I've always found it best to book one way then wait for a deal for the other bit... fyi: we don't really use the word 'proper' like you brits do, glad to help.

[@EvanAviator]

That's risky. And that only works for some flights. Flights from the US to London can be 4 times more expensive for a one way than a round-trip

[@marcodesanti9304]

@@EvanAviator interesting... I suppose it depends on the type and length of trip. I usually don't go anywhere for less than 3 months, so there's time to figure it out. I find myself weighing up cost and convenience, sometimes paying a little more for a better arrival time or direct flights is worth it.

[@sohopedeco]

If you're buying your tickets in Brazil (even if the ticket is for a trip abroad), the Superior Court of Justice decided it is illegal for airline to charge more in non-stop flights than they do in flights with stops between the same airports. You buy the more expensive flight and judicially request the difference back.

[@fresagrus4490]

Good luck dealing with the slow and incompetent brazilian courts, even more as a foreign with no portuguese knowledge

[@sohopedeco]

@@fresagrus4490 you don't need knowledge of portuguese. You just need a lawyer.

[@kob6912]

Trains: we charge you £x from Edinburgh to London Flying boi: we charge less than £x from Liverpool to Munich

[@bigballs9889]

Hey, I think you should really make more aviation vids!

[@bigballs9889]

@ThatOneLoneIyKid yeah lol

[@tealmer3528]

American also has hubs in New York at LGA and JFK... bit of an oof moment. But I did manage to snag a $300 round trip flight on American from New York LGA to PHL (my city, Philadelphia) to MAD (Madrid) instead of the $2,000 nonstop flight, the same flight.

[@baseballfan99]

Last year I took an Air France Business Class flight from Manchester via Paris for the great price of £1200 where as had I flown from Heathrow then on the same Tran Atlantic portion the fair jumped to £2200 pounds. Glad I live near Manchester.

[@LoserZalbo]

Queenstown is like, tourist capital, small airport, not many flights, in the mountains. Very, very rare to get cheap flights. Maybe if you go during a quieter period? It's a 6 hour drive, and keep in mind in Queenstown you'll probably want a car so you can see the wider area, consider hiring a car? $700 for flight to NZ is bad, but to Queenstown is another story. Also, try go via Brisbane

[@NorthernAviation]

the reason I have no money is because i spend it all on flights, my next trip includes DUB-CPH-BGO with a 23 hour and 50 min stopover (a good way to break the fare is keep the connection under 24 hours) and it cost me £69 on SAS

[@NorthernAviation]

I also flew JFK-LIS-ARN on TAP for £106 they have some good transatlantic deals if you're willing to go to Scandinavia. Also Oslo/Stockholm/Copenhagen are all very good start points for cheap business fares on Middle East carriers to Asia and Oceania

[@Jablicek]

Flexibility is always key to cheaper pricing. Norwegian are doing New York (opera at Princeton in the summer, darling) for 1/3 the other airlines' fares, but I feel a little wary given their most recent profit report. It's a shame, I must have flown with them a hundred times or more, and they've always been good - on time for the most part and never cancelled. And rebooking that missed pre-dawn departure has been a breeze!

[@connectingwings7212]

Quick question to the example of booking the flight from Paris instead from Zurich and taking the train there - would it be possible to also purposely "miss" the flight from Paris to Zurich and to check in at Zurich?

[@LachiBoii]

Yeah, 700 bucks to get to Queenstown from Melbourne is absolutely ridiculous.

[@BTtravelling]

Yep flights in Australia are ridiculous, I once had to pay $900 for a one way ticket Townsville to Brisbane on qantas in economy. That’s a flight staying in my same state and is only 1h 40min.

[@arrgghh1555]

I paid $80 syd to cairns return

[@TotoDG]

Do you have a green chair? That is the best thing I have ever seen (or I guess *not* seen, because, of course, green screen).

[@thewheatgreatness]

Bing Maps just changed Astana to Nur-Sultan.

[@unsaidartist1505]

Toycat: Philadelphia is an American hub, maybe fly to New York instead American, who has a hub at 2 out of 3 airports in the NYC area: sweats nervously

[@EchelonIV]

The chaining is sometimes quite nice actually. I used this "trick" recently when visiting Hong Kong. The trip essentially was from Norway via Finland to Hong Kong and back via Finland to Norway but I added a 1.5 day Bangkok stoptover between Finland and Hong Kong and it didn't cost me anything more. Worth it, as the price of the ticket was a bit hard to swallow otherwise even though the flight times were very good with short connection times in Helsinki, only one early morning wake-up and no late night arrivals (I like to have some comfort in traveling... early mornings are the worst). With the Bangkok stopover I think it was a pretty ok deal in the end.

[@KaathKilo]

A 50 minute flight from Sydney to Coffs Harbour is normally about $300 - $400 AU. Expensive flights are pretty normal and we just kinda deal with it

[@doriandorazio237]

Fuck flights here in Australia are expensive. I've never been overseas. It's expensive to fly inside the country as well so I drive to cities often.

[@hello-ef4bn]

lowest flight I've ever seen/gotten was 65 dollars round trip from Dallas to Chicago

[@EvanAviator]

Sounds like a great deal

[@StardollLoverXD]

Can you make your ebook available on other sites as well? I cant buy it in my region

[@ibx2cat]

Which region? I should look into the process for Google play books, good idea

[@StardollLoverXD]

@@ibx2cat The Netherlands, thanks btw!

[@Saka_Mulia]

Only Kindle version of your book available? Any pdf version? I don't intend to buy a kindle, sorry.

[@ibx2cat]

Kindle version is just the name - it can be read on any device

[@angelgames9351]

ibx2cat Can I read it on my Gucci Smart Toilet?

[@allenflanagan9632]

Saved roughly $600 flying out of D.C instead of flying out of my local airport in Norfolk

[@1800JimmyG]

i was able to reroute a minneapolis minnesota USA to Izmir turkey and lowered the price from 1200 down to 900! thank you it worked first try very easily :)

[@vatira]

I love travelling, and I figured out the cheapest way to fly, become a pilot. However this idea has failed and now im down $100,000 from flight school. oops

[@JessicaClark-lq4gw]

That is very expensive for Sydney to NZ. But bearing in mind that both are tourist destinations most people flying that route would be people like yourself who don't know it's expensive. U would actually be able to save money if u flew into Dunedin or Christchurch and use public transport to get to Queenstown. Cheapest I found was Sydney to christchuch was 214 NZD (201 aud) plus 120 NZD for a bus to Queenstown and back on a return trip.

[@ibx2cat]

Thanks, yeah that might be one of the best options - I'll look at the travel times from those cities (buses in NZ aren't cheap based on my last experience though)

[@JessicaClark-lq4gw]

@@ibx2cat The bus from CHCH to Queenstown was about $59.00 NZD one way from a quick google search while watching your vid. Which compared to about $500 on a flight isn't too bad. :)

[@arrgghh1555]

​@@ibx2cat Just looked at prices for the same days. $404 and $420 direct.

[@derjiggoffm7496]

you can also use fuel dumping and save mad money, my cheapest EU-US roundtrip has been 80€

[@ibx2cat]

Not to do that one upping thing, but I once had London to Canada, Canada to Canada and Canada to Dublin for 50 Euros

[@derjiggoffm7496]

ibx2cat sounds like the Westjet error fare from last year, flew it as well 😂 but was almost a direct turnaround, 24h in Canada

[@crunkyboii7917]

I love ba and I live in Heathrow but 90% of the flights I take are from Oslo connecting i London lol

[@corbinvickers9993]

I’m from U.K but live in New York and flight prices fluctuate so often. It changes from $400 to $900 every few days. Norwegian is usually quite cheap but I prefer flying virgin Atlantic

[@Tarodenaro]

Do you know anything about skiplagged? (the hidden city ticketing) I've heard about United suing them, but i haven't heard much since not so many people use their services.

[@virtualpedestrian3271]

In my country airline tickets are cheap like super cheap and the price are reasonable

[@santinomamone2674]

Andrew let us know when your in Australia

[@isladurrant2015]

Lol ... also consider that cheap flights often cause extra expense because of inconvenient take-off or landing times (taxis/hotels)... I have taken a cheap package holiday just because I couldn't beat the price flight-only... my friend needed to get to family in Scotland at short notice (going from SE England) the train was too expensive, driving too long and expensive... I found hand luggage only going via Dublin on low cost carrier for £35... it was over £100 direct :/

[@SuperpowerBroadcasting]

You should do a video on Air Koryo pricing

[@ThomasBob]

Not even monetized... tf? Dude, monetize this video!

[@The_Yosh]

He wants to help people, not make money

[@squid_cake]

Wtf just hop into creative mode airplanes have nothing on me

[@alaakhaled6594]

talk about airline prices in Africa and how dominant Ethiopian airlines is and what the heck happened to Egypt airways

[@Liz-zq1qf]

These videos are always a reminder of how much it sucks to travel from Australia. We're so far away it costs so much more. Let's just all go to Bali. Edit: oh and I'm from Perth. So can't even fly within my country without going broke, and driving to Sydney would take more like a week non-stop than 2 days. And $700 is a lot but hardly unexpected.

[@dalvittra]

Ibxtoycat has single handedly melted 25 square kilometers of glacier

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

I would actually drive across Australia. I assume there are petrol stations and small convenience shops dotted along the road. It would be interesting to chat with the people out there in the middle of nowhere.

[@Zapando]

Worked out I can save $200 by flying to Brisbane and then coming back to Sydney then flying to Barcelona. Don't know if 2 layovers are ok but whatever

[@ausboy2281]

Im from Sydney and 700 is the weekly minimum wage, not that affordable to fly to Queenstown :(

[@Hordil]

Some years I wanted to go to Greece/Athens/Tessalonki for a Concert of Iced Earth, well I searched for flights from Basel, Zurich or Stuttgart and ended up in Stuttgart - 120 Euro there and back again. Guess that was a good deal. But I guess I'm never flying, only doing german/swiss holidays and enjoy the local woods&nature. Oh, the flight was booked 6h in advance xD

[@mrhappy623]

Does the e book work on iphones?

[@ibx2cat]

should work on any device, there's a kindle app on most devices and a web browser version

[@Rex-tj9nw]

that's incredibly expensive for a flight to Queenstown from Sydney. (I'm from Sydney)

[@AnonyDave]

$700 seems like a cheap flight to nz. That being said, I know we get royally shafted on flight fees and would love to see prices more closely matching what the rest of the world pays

[@aeiouaeiou100]

This video is going to blow up. My prediction when it's on 1.3k views.

[@cheviot_]

Hey Toycat! Where I live we do have an Airport (Horsham, VIC) but never use it >:-)

[@Jotari]

So does it matter what website you use? I usually use CheapOAir. Is Google flights better?

[@mircoblitz6780]

"London -> Dubai should not be that expensive." one sentence that shows all whats wrong with airlines. Way too cheap.

[@dean1100110]

Who needs the book when you do airfares and ticketing at college

[@konokaiza]

700 DOLLARS IS TRASH - fellow aussie

[@Xamimus]

He forgot to make it visible inside on the amazon website...

[@mellow1821]

7:56 I SWEAR IF I SAW YOU THERE I WOULD'VE SCREAMED

[@thesuomi8550]

That Zürich pronunciation though

[@Derkiboi]

In 19:19 I'd respond with Visas and passport hassle(even of it's not that much)

[@limesaviation2602]

6:20 New York is also one of Americans hubs

[@santinomamone2674]

Andrew lol I don’t have an Aussie accent I have an ethnic Australian accent and air nz have always have sales and qantas too ... $700 is too dear man I’ve only paid like $300 to $400 from Melbourne to nz I’ve flown cheep from Sydney to Wellington And Melbourne to Auckland on air nz and melb to Wellington air nz for a holiday and to watch football

[@goatfishplays]

Why not just but a private plane

[@Monosekist]

But the ultimate flight deal: book a flight during a global pandemic.

[@jcm95]

Upvoting the Australian accent

[@ender3960]

I challenge you to say "1.15 Cave Update" at the beginning of every Ibxtoycat Minecraft Video intill Minecon Earth. Also 1.15 is coming 1/15/2020 LOL, Love the vids on both channels so much (: Also can you do more Geography with Toycat videos and Videos about lists of countries for example "Countries with Huge rivalries"

[@SilvanaDil]

Um, ToyCat: Denver (interior), St. Louis (interior) ... :-P

[@ibx2cat]

st louis was absurdly expensive ($230 for an hour flight from Denver) and Denver is one of the very few exceptions!

[@SilvanaDil]

@@ibx2cat - At least you've been there! I'm American and haven't been to either one.

[@oliverhines8099]

just become a pilot and make money by flying

[@phadkebros2883]

Most populated cities in the world

[@rateeightx]

Wait Did Toycat Know Where Benidorm Was But Not Rhodes? Who's Ever Heard If Benidorm? Well People Living There, I'd Guess.

[@cheeseburgersarecool6600]

500$ is. Really cheap do not fly on $500

[@perhapsyes2493]

Mate.. "why not abuse it?" Why not? The climate. Seriously - read all about it in the latest UN report. (Or some summary by your preferred local news provider)

[@GamingWithEssa]

Hey

[@marcopolo2395]

rhodes is in greece. lol

[@peterkelford]

One more question: are you deliberately making no mention of the fact that you have 1 million subscribers and (assuming you make one video daily that gets 3000 views a day). 100k+ views a month? This video, however, is great, but another explanation to why you travel is because you're a youtuber.

[@ibx2cat]

I think most people who ask the question know I'm a KZbinr, KZbin doesn't equate to free travel though!

[@peterkelford]

​@@ibx2cat No, it gives you money from views though (and the opportunity to accept sponsorships=more money).

[@nikjoh06]

100th like

[@andkyrmar]

Mate I loose interest in what look like very informative videos. You take ages to make small points.