AIRSOFT GAS COMPENDIUM 💨: 144a/Green/Red/Black Gas DIFFERENCE & How to choose the RIGHT ONE!

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

So which gas do you guys run? 💨

[@caio509]

I’d love to try Nuprol, but I've never found this gas here in Brazil! And if I find it someday, won’t be cheap! :( Nice video, good job!

[@jayasessions]

Caio Gonçalves brasil é foda... kkkk

[@caio509]

Reds Brasil só é bom pra quem faz coisa errada... airsoft sem nota, sem ponta laranja, etc... kkkk

[@jayasessions]

pois eh kkkkk

[@francescomottola7296]

Diablo it's my go to

[@plasticlawnchair7197]

Finially, someone that actually talks about the composition of each gas. Personally the composition of each gas is big and important info to me and I finally found someone who actually tells me the composition of red and black gas which I didn't know. Great video man!

[@Gattobuono]

Your English accent is improving, complimenti! :-)

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Slowly but surely! Grazie! ;-)

[@LancasterAirsoftRussia]

Fantastic job mate! Have never expierenced Nuprol products to date though colors of gases is an international city legend despite the language - same shit in Russian - people believe that color drives the performance :-)

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Thanks bud! I appreciate that! ;-)

[@Luca-pg5mj]

the nuprol 1.0 is suitable on guns with metal Cart around in a temperature ranging from 20 to 30 degrees ???

[@Irka4UDO]

Thank you for this professional review. It helped a lot.

[@vanya377]

Yo, thanks for the clarification !

[@darkshock42mlg05]

144a is unavailable here in America and getting it imported is expensive. Youre better off running to Wal-Mart or best buy and buying duster gas and modifying them to fit an adapter for the mags. You will need silicon oil to keep your o rings from drying out. Same with propane and propane accessories. It's reccomended you mix some silicone oil with the propane via resivoir or putting a drop down the nozzle if your adapter doesn't have one. You still have to lubricate all the moving parts and high contact areas but just don't go overboard and dump an entire can on it.

[@Luca-pg5mj]

do you think the vfc green gas is good? (the one in the blue cylinder) from what I understand also contains the lubricant.👍

[@percival5771]

i jsut want to know the exact pressure of some of these gasses specifically the abbey predator ultra gas

[@bogmirkovic8219]

How about comparing nuprol 4.0 to co2 regarding build quality requirements and which one is more dangerous to run in hot weather?

[@Luca-pg5mj]

If I'm overjoule I can use the 144a as well on a metal cart

[@iknowaguy1564]

Wow, excellent video! Super high quality and incredibly educational. I run propane. Standard 20PSI green coleman cans. I drop lubricant in the top and I go from there.

[@David_K89]

This was so helpful, thank you!

[@Luca-pg5mj]

secondo te è buono il green gas della vfc? (quello nella bombola azzurra) da quello che ho capito contiene anche il lubrificante.👍

[@darkshock42mlg05]

Red gas is for cold days mostly and black is for ultimate fps. If you want that kind of power, use hpa and deal with the air tank.

[@TaZ101SAGA]

I run Abbey Brut Sniper in most of my GBB's as I maintain them often so it's not a problem. Stops silicone getting in the barrel and bucking which is where you don't want it. 144a is crap for anything other than hot summers. I use ASG ultra air power gas in my TM's when it's not warm enough for 144a.

[@giandothor9966]

if using green gas i'm over joule, which gas i need?

[@javierjimenez1497]

Hi, can I use Nuprol 4.0 in SX303 by Novritch?

[@facundocorradini]

I really don't think Red Gas is R22, but Propylene (the same stuff as in Map Pro). R22 is banned pretty much everywhere, and the pressure difference with Propane is not that much (157PSI vs 142PSI at 30ºC, 84PSI vs 78PSI at 10ºC). R22 has been out of use in airsoft ever since "green gas" came out like 20 years ago... it's called "green" precesily because is a more evironmental friendly. Red gas is simply propylene. And there's no way the 3.0 is propane, despite the info in the can stating it's c3h8... it wouldn't make any sense that 2.0 and 3.0 were the same gas and have different pressures. Most likely 3.0 is propylene as well.

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Facundo Corradini I use mapp gas in my gbbr’s and it has a noticeably sharper recoil impulse and cold weather performance. All of the Nuprol gases perform identically to propane, which is why so many KZbin reviewers were disappointed by it. Run mapp gas through a gun and you won’t be disappointed!

[@facundocorradini]

I do run MAP Pro ( *not* MAPP, that's a different gas that has been discontinued for ages and would certainly destroy your gun). Map Pro is simply propene (aka propylene). That's what 99% of red gases out there are made of. I would be surprised if 3x was any different.

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Facundo Corradini Have you tried the 3.0? I will admit I have not. I’m not about to waste $20 on a scam. All of the KZbin reviews I have seen on the 3.0 are underwhelming. Nugentgl has a great video comparing propane, mapp, and co2 and the mapp is noticeably different from the propane.

[@Crlarl]

Red gas is (or was) HCFC-22. MAPP and MAP pro are both trade names of the same gas.

[@Crlarl]

What is in 144a? It's not R-144a because that doesn't exist. HFC-134a (R-134a) or "duster gas" is 1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane, HFC-143a (R-143a) also "duster gas" is 1,1,2-Trifluoroethane, HFC-152a (R-152a) also also "duster gas" is 1,1-Difluoroethane, "Green gas" or HC-290 (R-290) is propane and R-744 is carbon dioxide. So, what is it?

[@ilpanta5768]

Per hk416a5 gbb dellq vfc...quale consigli??? Sapevo che la nuprol rimarchia quello della WE e che non è un gas di qualità sporcando parecchio la replica...

[@nghiatito]

thanks for your good review, just wonder can i use green gas for tokyo marui m9a1? would it be safe?

[@deltazero3796]

Hey... That's helpful!

[@manipb4440]

I'm really struggling at the moment as am using a m93r from kwa but if I use normal green gas it runs way over 350fps which is my sites limit and if I use the nurpol 1.0 the slide often fails to cycle as the pressure isn't enough. Any advice?

[@GhostWarriorsAirsoft]

Awesome stuff man :) How fast would you say a TM sidearm with plastic slide will go down after using Nuprol 3.0 or 4.0?

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Thanks bud! It really depends on how much are you actually using it but 3.0 and 4.0 are definitely over the top for a TM gun, I've seen people running green gas like the 2.0 on them just fine during winter periods! No need to go higher than that IMO!

[@GhostWarriorsAirsoft]

Thanks dude! I'll let the TM nuts in my team know :D

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Ghost Warriors Airsoft All nuprol gas is just propane, so you will be fine for a while until the slide wears out. It will wear out but you should get plenty of usage out of it.

[@Luca-pg5mj]

the nuprol 1.0 is suitable on guns with metal Cart around in a temperature ranging from 20 to 30 degrees ???

[@Ares-TN02]

Io uso nuprol 2.0 e pro tech. Dici che il 2.0 è troppo per una G17 marui di serie? Cosa mi consigli?

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Verso il periodo estivo, superati i 20° in campo penso sia meglio passare al 144a sulle Tokyo Marui poi dipende anche da altri fattori come quanto effettivamente usi la replica, se gira molto allora sicuramente passa al 144a in estate.

[@Ares-TN02]

Chupacabra Outdoor la "uso" prevalentemente come sistema di backup, quindi quasi mai. Sono di Napoli e da noi già fa molto caldo. Quindi dici (restando su nuprol) 1.0 estate, 2.0 per il resto dell'anno?

[@Luca-pg5mj]

@@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR the nuprol 1.0 is suitable on guns with metal Cart around in a temperature ranging from 20 to 30 degrees ???

[@Dizzyfatpigeon]

Ok, so we've been lied to about black gas all along? Weird, also Nuprol 3.0/4.0 is on the shelves in every airsoft store no problem in the U.K. What about Abbey Vertex? Isn't that in between the power of Red and Black gas? Also afaik the absolute most powerful gas other than co2 that I know of is called Guarder Power up Black Gas, I've never tried it, but it seems to be more powerful than nuprol Black (4.0)

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Actually Nuprol never claimed to sell different types of gases, they even have their formulation on their cans but most of the players not being very knowledgeable when it comes to this kind of stuff assumed green, red and black were actually types of gases rather then different propane formulations, that's my experience at least. They can totally sell the 3.0 and 4.0 as it's gust ethane enriched green gas, nothing wrong with that. I couldn't actually find Abbeys' formulations but looks like the Vertex is in the same category of the 3.0 and 4.0 as far as pressure and optimal temperature range. I'm sure even this Guarder Power Up still is propane based, black gas is just a name thrown out there afaik!

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Dizzyfatpigeon The msds sheets are online for abbey gases. They legally have to declare what’s in the product. All just scented propane with a scam marketing label on it.

[@sonnsobek7633]

Interesting

[@21niko_]

In poche parole il migliore è...?

[@brgimscht]

what's ultra gas?

[@BlackEmeraldGroup]

I would never use these airsoft gases...why ..cus its mixed with lube and where does it go when you fire your gun? In your hop or nozzle..by that it messes with your accuraccy ..propane or mapp pro..just do the lubing myself..

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

Interesting! I've actually never heard someone complain about the silicone oil messing up the accuracy, always had pretty steady shots as well but it should be interesting to do a comparison! Thanks!

[@BlackEmeraldGroup]

Wont do much in pistols..but ive using GBB M4 for 8 years..used all sorts of gases..Nuprol is worst! Gaurder power up is best in my eyes..but Mapp pro is way forward in cold.

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Chupacabra Outdoor Hopup functions based on friction. Lubricants reduce friction. Lube in the gas goes down the barrel and coats the hopup bucking making it less effective.

[@facundocorradini]

How could you say Nuprol 2, 3 and 4 are the same gas?? How could "the same gas" have different pressures? That's simply impossible.

[@CHUPACABRAOUTDOOR]

What I actually said is that they're all propane based but, the Nuprol 3.0 and Nuprol 4.0 have a small and increasing percentage of ethane, that's what boost up pressure!

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Facundo Corradini Because they are all the same gas. They perform identically. Nuprol is just cashing in on the biggest scam in airsoft, scented propane.

[@facundocorradini]

no, they are not. Each one of them is actually a different gas, and their working temperatures are wildly different. You can use 4x at 0ºC while 2x won't work at that temperature at all. On the other hand, at 30ºC the 2x will perform perfectly fine while the 4x will literally bloat your mags and break them beyond any possibility of repair. 2x is green gas, which is scented propane. 3x is most likely just scented propene. and 4x... I have no idea what that is. But they certainly are different gasses.

[@xXAust1n46Xx]

Facundo Corradini There’s no way they’d get away with exporting a flammable gas into the US in bulk with fraudulent labeling. I have yet to get my hands in the MSDS sheets for nuprol, but I have seen them for abbey supply, and all their gases are just propane. So with the labeling on the nuprol cans and the composition of competitors gases, I’m sticking with nuprol must be just propane. If you own cans of nuprol gas, just measure the pressure at 20C with a gauge. Easy way to test the composition. Nuprol also claims the cans hold 1 liter of gas while only being 10.5oz. Which is lighter than both propane and propylene, so the whole thing screams “scam” to me anyways.

[@facundocorradini]

well, most "green gas" manufacturers has been getting away with importing green gas into the US (and every single country in the world where airsoft is played) declared as CH2 FCF3 CH3, which is not only a non-existent formula but also an impossible one as it violates the CnX2n+2 rule of saturated hydrocarbons. So there's that :p

[@alebear3165]

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