AK47 Kitchen build trigger guard installation tothtool installation tool

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Darren Boyer

Darren Boyer

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@BigTime838
@BigTime838 4 жыл бұрын
Man you have what I consider the best videos on building AK platform.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
You could and thats a good idea. The dia. of the rivet tail versus the dia. of the rivet shank is what you really want to look at. The tail just needs to be 1.5 times the dia. of the shank after squeezing or riveting.
@Munky332
@Munky332 12 жыл бұрын
just imaging if you were using an electric or air powered ratchet/impact... you'd be able to build an AK in under an hour! lol. sold me on the toth tooling though. i've been contemplating the best course of action, and this seems like the best and most affordable way. a 12 ton press from harbor freight is like 160$. the toth tooling is ~200. for the 3 items. you'd still need all the extra tooling for the 12 ton press so the toth tooling wins out every time. if only i could find a damn parts kit!
@Munky332
@Munky332 12 жыл бұрын
yea, when i was looking they were all out of stock. i ended up gettin a Maadi 7.62 kit as well as a 5.45 Bulgarian kit. had to order barrels separately though. seems like people are gettin more kits in stock, must have just been the holiday/pre-ban rush...
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be necessary, but might be useful if you were doing 20 receivers and wanted them all to be the same. The shop tail of a rivet is supposed to be a certain dia. based on the dia. of the rivet so that is what I look for.
@garystuber1
@garystuber1 11 жыл бұрын
Robert, I am having the same problem! I am going to consult a machinist friend of mine to see if I can either mill the block down enough to make it fit or grind the dimple down without damaging the way the hammer pin fits?! It would seem impossible to try and flair the receiver with the both trunnion blocks installed. I am going to ask toth tool about this problem as well!
@vonwolly2
@vonwolly2 12 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how to do the Rear rivets on the ak . Great videos very well done. Would love to see how to do the Rear rivets on the ak . Great videos very well done.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Well, first get the kit. They are very hard to find right now at a reasonable price. After that, if you don't want to build from a flat, get a NDS receiver and the right rivet set for the build from ak-builder. I'm am soon going to modify my toth tool rivet squeezer and use it to build an underfolder so that may be of interest to you.
@keith68454
@keith68454 12 жыл бұрын
Nice tool cant wait to see how you form the rear rivets
@reaperzx6r07
@reaperzx6r07 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for doing this video. Now I can purchase the tools needed to build my AK47.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Sure, but when you show your friends years later they will want to compare the one they bought to yours and if it doesn't look good, I'm sure they will let you know. It won't hurt it though, just make sure the holes are lined up before welding it.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
It is a pain it the butt to get the block in place, can you spread the rear of the receiver apart far enough to shove it in place?
@garystuber1
@garystuber1 11 жыл бұрын
Craig, I had that block milled down to fit in the receiver! It has to be slightly smaller but it worked! I have a friend who is a machinist do it, but you could probably do it yourself with a dremel tool, might be kind of tedious but it could be done! Now it is slightly wedged shaped but it worked to get buy the dimple!
@garystuber1
@garystuber1 11 жыл бұрын
Robert, I had the same problem but I got it to work!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
I drilled them out with a number 21 drill bit. A 5/32 could also be used.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can if you can find one at a decent price. Check state laws first before starting though. The ATF allows you to build your own gun for personal use. Go to ATF dot gov and read up on it. You must have at least 6 specific US made parts in it as well.
@RayTampa813
@RayTampa813 11 жыл бұрын
What about using a Torque wrench and record the final numbers for more accurate results?
@Bolo2028
@Bolo2028 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! I was leaning towards doing it like that, but it is really good to have confirmation that it will work.
@Tiersmoke92555
@Tiersmoke92555 11 жыл бұрын
Grate video for us folks with no build space and a wife. I found the screwless vises on ebay.com but what size?
@chuckc111
@chuckc111 12 жыл бұрын
Great Vids! Would a torque wrench be a good idea for crushing these equally?
@russianoleg
@russianoleg 11 жыл бұрын
Also, I really want to build my very own ak-74 Will I be able to buy a Parts kit without the FFL?
@TheGuy030770
@TheGuy030770 4 жыл бұрын
Good job not riveting your rear trunnion in before riveting your trigger guard in. I made the sad mistake of doing that on my last build, and I had to take a milling ball and cut a notch in my rear trunnion for the support braces to be bolted in. On my next build, I am going to install my trigger guard even before I install the front trunnion, weld the guide rails in or rivet the center support into place.
@SuperNache
@SuperNache 11 жыл бұрын
How'd you get the original rivets out?
@Tiersmoke92555
@Tiersmoke92555 11 жыл бұрын
do you think it's safe to use an impact gun to drive this section of the build?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
ak-builder still has them.
@IWalkTheREDroad
@IWalkTheREDroad 11 жыл бұрын
Did you use a 20 ton press to bend the receiver? Wonder if a 6 ton press would work on bending the flat? Excellent vids.
@Commanderhurtz1
@Commanderhurtz1 11 жыл бұрын
Hello Ginsboy2003, I'm intrested in making my own AK, preferbly Bulgarian underfolder, AK-47. To your advice, what would suggest on getting started and what would I need? If I start this project, I will most likely go with Toth tools.
@Commanderhurtz1
@Commanderhurtz1 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I apreciate the advice, and yes, I look forward to that video. Good luck and keep it up please.
@russianoleg
@russianoleg 11 жыл бұрын
Did you order the tools separate or as a tool kit(if you did then how much)? When I went to tothtool.com I couldn't find a TOOLING Kit! Instead all the tools are sold separately.. Thank You!
@tothtool
@tothtool 4 жыл бұрын
The tools are sold separately.
@unclerico1431
@unclerico1431 7 жыл бұрын
ginsboy2003 you are the reason I believe I can build my own AK thank you for the inspiration my friend
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
Just keep in mind, if you haven't bought the parts or tools yet that with todays prices you might be better off buying one complete! Some kits are way to expensive!
@unclerico1431
@unclerico1431 7 жыл бұрын
ginsboy2003 unfortunately I live in Commifornia where AK pistol are going for 1300 or more I'd rather build mine probably build 2 of them now that I have the tools
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
In that case it would make sense to build!
@garystuber1
@garystuber1 11 жыл бұрын
Craig, just do it enough to get by the dimple!
@Bolo2028
@Bolo2028 11 жыл бұрын
Could you please describe what you did to get it to work?
@TheGuy030770
@TheGuy030770 4 жыл бұрын
Using a 12-ton press makes things a lot easier. I understand that you probably have one in the garage, but just sayin', I can't imagine trying to build a rifle without a 12-ton press. You are much more than tenacious than I am.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
I have a 3 inch vise.
@joehunt1980
@joehunt1980 12 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I wonder if you could have adjusted the rivet crushing block back a bit so you would only have had to crush 2 rivets at a time. Might have taken less grunting to get them down :-) lol
@MegaSebasti
@MegaSebasti 7 жыл бұрын
great videos ginsboy2003 my question to you is where did you purchase that vise..you use it on many videos you do. Keep up the good work.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
It is a "screwless grinding vise" and you can find them on ebay or at machinist supply web sites.
@RaysGarage
@RaysGarage 12 жыл бұрын
Great videos ginsboy2003, keep them coming! Question, where do you buy your AK Parts Kits?
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
Wow nice jig. I'm impressed.
@johndix1820
@johndix1820 5 жыл бұрын
You do make it look easy!
@Julius44bc
@Julius44bc 12 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@chronicdeist
@chronicdeist 9 жыл бұрын
I see it asked but not answered, do you know where to find a vice like that? I know you said ebay, but I can't find it. Is there a brand on that? Great vids by the way!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
You could, but I'd recommend not using one. That way you can feel how tight things are getting.
@trialmx
@trialmx 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have to install just one rivet at the aft trigger guard hole. Would you know of a place that rents this trigger guard tool?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know of anyone renting the tool out.
@BobBob-il2ku
@BobBob-il2ku 10 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't you bolt down the vise?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 10 жыл бұрын
It was a kitchen build and my wife would have killed me! The idea was just to complete an AK build in the kitchen which has never been done on video before. Seriously though, I have a vise I normally use in the garage that is bolted down though.
@johnnydavis249
@johnnydavis249 10 жыл бұрын
theirs a rivet near the allen wrench? Was that the lost rivet?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 10 жыл бұрын
Probably!
@johnnydavis249
@johnnydavis249 10 жыл бұрын
Always in plain sight lol Gets me everytime to man lol damn small parts
@mikewinning3282
@mikewinning3282 8 жыл бұрын
My block to crush the rivets won't fit in the receiver with the hammer pin support that hangs down off the rail on a saiga any suggestions?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
Not having seen a picture of what your talking about I'm not sure. Could you modify the block to fit or perhaps the support?
@redline870
@redline870 8 жыл бұрын
"Our dogs dying, whistles are blowing" I don't know why that comment made me laugh so hard lol
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
Probably because you've listened to you dog when the sirens made it howl haha!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
Yea I could have, very easily haha. I didn't even think of that. Your supposed to use this tool in a large table mounted vise, but I chose not to.
@Foche_T._Schitt
@Foche_T._Schitt Жыл бұрын
I just need drawings on rivet press jigs...
@GregTheHun
@GregTheHun 10 жыл бұрын
My only problem is, like Robert Flury had, that I can't get the crushing block underneath the right side rail dimple. Does anyone know a good solution around this?
@GregTheHun
@GregTheHun 10 жыл бұрын
bump
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 10 жыл бұрын
GregTheHun I did have to tap my block in place, but I got it in. If you're having that much trouble, maybe if you removed a little metal on it?
@tothtool
@tothtool 4 жыл бұрын
We have since revised the crush plate and it has s step down to clear the rail. Once in a while you may come across a receiver that the crush block wont slide in on top of the rivets. Try to slide the block in first, flip it over and install the trigger guard and rivets, then lay the plate on top. Carefully flip it back over, tighten the holding clamps in as tight as possible without bending them.
@austin3538
@austin3538 12 жыл бұрын
nice job
@slablife
@slablife 9 жыл бұрын
For some reason Toth Tool does not mention this trigger guard installation tool will NOT work on a Yugo! I bought it and put in the comments of the order I have a Yugo to make sure this will work. Also, the Long Rivet tool will not work 100% either, the forward most rivet will not fit on the little pocket head because the bulge is in the way. These are great tools and I will keep them for a non-Yugo build, but if you have a Yugo, DO NOT buy these tool.
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