Akinfenwa Opens Up On Racial Abuse In Lithuania

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Happy Hour Podcast

Happy Hour Podcast

Жыл бұрын

Adebayo Akinfenwa opens up about the racial abuse he was on the receiving end of whilst playing in Lithuania during his first professional football contract.
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@Preye__
@Preye__ Жыл бұрын
I’m a Nigerian that has been living in Lithuania as a student for 4 years now. My experience has been great honestly, I guess the people are more nicer and open now compared to when Akinfewa was here.
@eimantasblazys8910
@eimantasblazys8910 Жыл бұрын
Probably no. Football fans generally are into hooliganism and such therefore it does not surprise me if all kinds of crap can be found in jails and spectator seats of football stadiums. Everywhere else should be fine. Even in the same football stadium if you are not a player. They did their best to insult / annoy him because that is the sort of stuff that is to be expected from human trash part of our society.
@mxn8972
@mxn8972 Жыл бұрын
I think people are just openly hostile and racist because they have sport behind their reasoning
@andreichiorean4450
@andreichiorean4450 Жыл бұрын
Communism had a big impact on our countries, now we're starting to think differently.
@raer5373
@raer5373 Жыл бұрын
You still hear racial slurs about Asian, African, Middle Eastern people and it's really embarrassing to hear as a fellow Lithuanian. I hear it from people who are older 50s/60s and aren't culturally educated in my experience.
@owlette91
@owlette91 Жыл бұрын
90s and 00s Lithuania was *very* different, people have grown and learnt but it's a very dark side of Lithuania, most of the older people here still are like this, will still take many years to wash away from those people that grew up in the soviet times where racism and overall discrimination was fully normal.
@litd3x411
@litd3x411 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian, Im really sorry for that terrible experience. I wasnt even alive back then Im 21 now but 90s early 2000s after collapse of the soviet union Lithuania was wild, a lot of people call it wild west times in Lithuania. Im really proud now of my country of how far it has come from those times and I invite you to come here again if you would give us that privilege and see how much it has changed and again so sorry for that horrible experience.
@prypiatshadow6371
@prypiatshadow6371 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, its such a shame to see Lithuania mentioned this way. Full dissapointment.
@ARASantiteroristiniuoperacijur
@ARASantiteroristiniuoperacijur Жыл бұрын
Yeah, love having furries and gays in the capital nowadays. Well done for apologising for something you didn't do.
@JJones1995
@JJones1995 Жыл бұрын
Bro Lithuanians in Lithuania are still heavily racist
@1ChxnceLxnce
@1ChxnceLxnce Жыл бұрын
Na fck you keep your apologies I’m joking that’s big of you, respect bro
@thegoldentoad9101
@thegoldentoad9101 Жыл бұрын
Don’t be sorry for something you had zero input in
@Akinfenwa20
@Akinfenwa20 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed sitting down with the fellas, was a pleasure 💪🏾
@coreyg1264
@coreyg1264 Жыл бұрын
What a guy, massive respect 🫡 ✊🏽
@coolness6595
@coolness6595 Жыл бұрын
Legend❤
@Nykona-Sharrowkyn
@Nykona-Sharrowkyn Жыл бұрын
You are a legend sir 😎
@theonetheonlyjoey
@theonetheonlyjoey Жыл бұрын
Top man 💪
@eliclutch8806
@eliclutch8806 Жыл бұрын
Legend mate
@hayesy9693
@hayesy9693 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely, one of the most likable footballers the world has ever had, nothing but love for Bayo ❤️
@frankcastle6006
@frankcastle6006 Жыл бұрын
This man seems soo genuine and lovely. He has such a great outlook on such an awful experience. What a bloke.
@nyallsmith320
@nyallsmith320 Жыл бұрын
Guys a genuinely nice bloke legend 🙌
@SunRiseEvery-day
@SunRiseEvery-day Жыл бұрын
I'm Lithuanian and a migrant for 20 years, had my fair share of bigotry living in 7 countries around Europe. I feel that painful discomfort brother, its f`in disgusting.
@AceMixes
@AceMixes Жыл бұрын
European in any African country would get worse treatment tho facts
@SunRiseEvery-day
@SunRiseEvery-day Жыл бұрын
@@AceMixes Let hope, this nonsense can disappear from this world
@MsSignedUp
@MsSignedUp Жыл бұрын
As a lithuanian and a human, I’m so ashamed of what happened. Sorry on behalf of them, we don’t claim those football “fans” lol. 22 years later the situation is much better, though our older generation still struggles with racism. As a country that was occupied over and over again, we’re traumatized, but we’re learning and growing ❤ Thank you for sharing! P.S. The “zuikelis” pet name for you was very cute haha
@kezy_tv5381
@kezy_tv5381 Жыл бұрын
As a Latvian Iam also sorry because I can relate , and Latvia and Lithuania have grown a lot since Soviet times , And our younger generations outlook on life is different .
@Deines7
@Deines7 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian I know that black males and females are most inteligent and well behaved, most peacefull, most friendly, most hard working humans in the World. This is why in Europe's, America's cities and towns where beautiful black people outnumbered Whites or, are at least in significant minority - places are peaceful, streets are cleanest, and no any crime. So, you are very, very, very welcome to come to the Lithuania and help us to improve our living standard to the much higher - Sub-Sahara African living standard's. Greetings to all Black humanity of the World from very, very, very friendly non racist Lithuanian. Ah, we love you Blacks, especially black queens and princesses 💞
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
@@Deines7 xddd
@heetheet75
@heetheet75 Жыл бұрын
I'm not ashamed at all. Look at what is happening to the west with mass immigration. We do not want the third world here.
@heetheet75
@heetheet75 Жыл бұрын
@@kezy_tv5381 No, we can't relate. Our outlook is disgust at the cultural and racial suicide of the west. Demographics are the future and currently Western Europe is looking to become minorities in their own countries. We Balts are few in number, we absolutely cannot do the same, it is an existential question. Multiculturalism does not work and it is plain to see. Stop being a bootlicker.
@Tadas_rackauskas
@Tadas_rackauskas Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian, I am so sorry that you had to expierence this abuse, it so shameful to here that our country produced an expierence like this. I wasn't even alive at that time, but what I can say is that Lithuania has progressed a lot since the fall of the soviet union. At that time everything was like a broken puzzle being put together, and there were many shameful moments. However, I really do believe that Lithuania has become much more acepting of all people and I really encourage you to go once more if you got the chance/felt comfortable.
@aue2377
@aue2377 Жыл бұрын
you are not lithuanian, amerimutt "theodore"
@heetheet75
@heetheet75 Жыл бұрын
I have come to the conclusion that this is a propaganda piece and a psyop. They're slowly introducing more people from Africa with programs like Erasmus to Eastern Europe. We are historically oppressed people and we are also ethnically homogenous and wish to stay that way after witnessing the absolute crime ridden mess the west has become due to mass third world immigration. This video is basically an attempt to make Lithuanians to feel guilty (even though if a white guy showed up in an ethnically homogenous African country 30 years ago he would be called a white ghost or devil and would feel out of place), to bow down to the economic migrant invaders, because we have no history of colonizing Africa and were often slaves ourselves and as such they cannot use anything as a weapon to make us submit to the destruction of our country and people. Our national identities and spirits are strong. We are NOT going to become like the west, where already native births are being outpaced by the invaders.
@jackdavidson2582
@jackdavidson2582 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so goated. Noone should ever have to go through that
@tautvilasbreive5750
@tautvilasbreive5750 Жыл бұрын
This actually happened 20 years ago, and those times in Lithuania were still kinda dark. Not many people have seen other races and I bet there still are some people who would chant some stupid shit like the ones who did to Bayo. Just lack of acceptance
@ellb-w5076
@ellb-w5076 Жыл бұрын
Met Bayo at his time with the Cobblers and is such a genuine guy and so humble, gotta love him
@epicgamingtg8532
@epicgamingtg8532 Жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately as a Lithuanian who's lived abroad half his life I ain't even shocked, unfortunately the older generation of people are very backwards and it's just something that people are ignorant to. Thankfully things have changed a lot over the last 20 years :)
@dovydaslevanavicius9050
@dovydaslevanavicius9050 Жыл бұрын
older generation is way better
@LovzaNo
@LovzaNo Жыл бұрын
Nope. I am in my 20s and I have abused two nigs.
@Aerodynamical_
@Aerodynamical_ Жыл бұрын
@@dovydaslevanavicius9050 dusinkis balvonas
@jokubasmirinas116
@jokubasmirinas116 Жыл бұрын
@@dovydaslevanavicius9050 tie patys kur pusę autobuso okupuoja su savo manta? Tie patys kurie aiškina kaip prie ruso buvo geriau? Yra tikrai gerų, malonių senjorų, bet teigti kad visa senoji karta yra geresnė negu mūsų jaunimas yra nesąmonė.
@mephistophelesgg7963
@mephistophelesgg7963 Жыл бұрын
niekas nenori matyti tu bezdzioniuku
@fallengamer3000
@fallengamer3000 Жыл бұрын
Zuikelis! the legend! so glad you were strong enough to stand such unsubstantiated hate, big ups Adebayo
@will2410
@will2410 Жыл бұрын
Bayo a fucking legend, the best happy hour guest so far this guy made my whole childhood when he played for Northampton Town!
@yoiamgucci2743
@yoiamgucci2743 Жыл бұрын
Damn Akinfenwa done it the hard way. What a wild move to go for a trial in Lithuania at 18, so ballsy. Truly inspirational guy. It must be remembered though that it took a long time for the UK to do better when it comes to racism. We're not perfect and never will be as small mindedness is a forever weakness with humans. That said, you don't have to go that far back to find monkey chants being bordering acceptable in UK stands; despite us being considerably more diverse than most European nations for decades. Lithuania has come a long way and judging by the comments of Lithuanians in the comments its not as acceptable as it was when Akinfenwa was racially abused on their land. Humans will always have the capability to disappoint, but humans also have the potential to surprise and inspire change. Going through the FK Atlantas squad, the team Adebayo played for, I see a number of black players in their squad and throughout the league there is players of all races. If anyone was going to go abroad and smash through barriers of others I'd pick The Beast with 99 strength and 100 for mentality. Great guest, great podcast. 👍👏
@joshfidan3681
@joshfidan3681 Жыл бұрын
That’s genuinely scary man Respect to Bayo for sharing that story
@grizcuz
@grizcuz Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when you heard the "trigger, trigger, trigger, shoot that N word" at a lot of English grounds regardless of the standard, from divisions 1- 4, prior to the Prem. Then if a club had black players representing them, they'd change it to "shoot THEIR N word". I can remember asking my dad what they were chanting, because I couldn't understand it and he wouldn't tell me. Shocking to even think that you could hear that these days, but black players weren't as common and racism was definitely more overt and kind of normalised to some extent.
@AceMixes
@AceMixes Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@temple4585
@temple4585 Жыл бұрын
It’s weird to see so many fellow Lithuanians apologizing for something that happened 22 years ago, when the same commenters probably werent even born. Doubt any of them were at those games chanting those slurs. Post soviet Lithuania was a wild place, also n-word has no historical meaning there. Nowadays we know it from the internet/media, but rare Lithuanian used it back then. In not excusing those peoples actions, but giving some more context to judge situation better
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa Жыл бұрын
Mes istorijos su juodukais neturim, čia kas ira svarbu. Tai šitas “racismas” buvo nuo to kad buvo keista pamatyt juoduka ir lengaviau išsipisinet.
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
They are sjw's.
@Kasadilla1
@Kasadilla1 Жыл бұрын
It’s sucks that people are so mean. Sometimes humans disappoint me
@lulant9830
@lulant9830 Жыл бұрын
All you Lithuanians passed the vibe check apreaciate the apolgies on behalf of others mistakes really show what a good respectful country/people are !
@Santechnikas69
@Santechnikas69 Жыл бұрын
@Adrians Cehins ur not even Lithuanian, shut ur goddamn mouth, we aint racist anymore
@Santechnikas69
@Santechnikas69 Жыл бұрын
@Adrians Cehins jesus, u know what else kids say and do? say that communism is good, draw svastikas in the toilet, say that women have no rights etc, they are not serious dude are u fucking dumb
@Santechnikas69
@Santechnikas69 Жыл бұрын
@Adrians Cehins actual fucking brain-dead
@jackhines7293
@jackhines7293 Жыл бұрын
Everything I see from akinfenwa makes me love the guy more
@THERAAMBODX
@THERAAMBODX Жыл бұрын
Some of the best people I met at uni are Lithuanian they say it’s changed a lot since then but damm that’s tough
@curtisss
@curtisss Жыл бұрын
Sad that he had to deal with that, those people all knew he had something to lose if he retaliated. They're all cowards.
@emeraldz3536
@emeraldz3536 Жыл бұрын
He seems like a good guy
@timergent
@timergent Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian, Im really sorry for that terrible experience. Well it was 2001, people now are nicer compared to that time. Ofcourse racism hasnt gone anywhere, we have many more races in our football and basketball clubs, most of us treat them as our own, cheer, but still not all of us are that nice, racism will never go away, you just have to focus on whats more important for you, career or opinions of people you dont know - if they dont respect you, why should you take their opinion to the heart.
@alutis8536
@alutis8536 Жыл бұрын
Back then it was a different, Soviet like, mindset. As a Lithuanian, I am sorry for that experience. Lots of things changed since then.
@lord_woodleg
@lord_woodleg Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian, Im just so sorry for what you experienced in our country.....😢😢majority of the people are nice but unfortunately there are Godless idiots too...😔
@tomcoombs
@tomcoombs Жыл бұрын
mad respect. love bayo
@jjnicholls
@jjnicholls 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been Lithuania in December and it’s a very nice country
@Sham1r0
@Sham1r0 Жыл бұрын
Lithuania used to be like that in 2000s people there would see a black person for the first time in their life and either love or hate it. Now it's totally different tbh so if you feel going for a visit again give it a shot, you'll be surprised how far it went really.
@PauliusZeRo
@PauliusZeRo Жыл бұрын
Nothing, but a mad respect for this man. From my behalf as many other Lithuanians already did, I'm sorry as well for such behavior back in a days. I'd just say that mostly in those times, maybe even still now sometimes, but the main cause was just to mock or bully people you don't like. You're black - they'll use that. You're small - they'll use that. You're skinny - again one more reason to mock you. Racism, sexism, bullying and etc., whatever reason they can find is just a outcome of being unhappy and you took it like a champ not letting that influence you. Strong mindset and I'm glad I heard this story. Definitely worth taking example from. P.S. I invite you to come back where it all started and maybe have a nice surprise and pleasant time seeing it all different :)
@loafbloke2911
@loafbloke2911 Жыл бұрын
90s and early 00s were wild. Lithuanian people didn't really understand what was up. It was a different world from the Western society. The title is misleading, making people think it happened in the modern time which is just wrong. Apologies for our past mistakes, but don't think that the country is the same as 21 years ago.
@unrealggecko
@unrealggecko Жыл бұрын
Young Lithuanian who was only a few years old when Akinfenwa was here, loved watching him play later on when I got to. It is true back then our barely knew anything outside because of the Soviet Union. The current generations of Lithuanians are definetly more tolerant. Sad he joined during these dark times.
@paulwesthorpe4745
@paulwesthorpe4745 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy and well handled
@MD_Production
@MD_Production Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian I feel ashamed even though I wasn not even born in that time, because it should not be acceptable in football.
@AnonPhantom
@AnonPhantom Жыл бұрын
No one forces you to stay. If you don't like it here u are free to go btw
@whitewolf5753
@whitewolf5753 11 ай бұрын
Big respect to Ade
@robertabingelyte1695
@robertabingelyte1695 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian Im really sorry for that.
@samuelwright2854
@samuelwright2854 Жыл бұрын
Did you do the chants? No. Don’t apologise.
@tiromandal6399
@tiromandal6399 Жыл бұрын
A big crowd of people saying that to you is something truly unimaginable! His mind is countless times stronger than his body.
@bigazzun3472
@bigazzun3472 Жыл бұрын
Wow didn't know Akinfenwa played in my home country
@tazkhan
@tazkhan Жыл бұрын
Huge respect to him for his maturity and mentality
@spritly4290
@spritly4290 Жыл бұрын
That’s sad
@JCdental
@JCdental Жыл бұрын
Shocking how fast things turned around here though
@VykintasGlodenis
@VykintasGlodenis Жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear this and I can only apologise as a Lithuanian. The times he's talking about have been pretty wild (not long after Lithuanians destroyed the Soviet Union forcing it to collapse)... but it's not the same anymore. I believe he'd not face much racism anymore. We do have racists, of course, just as any other country... but I don't think it's on any higher level than in other countries. And we're improving continuously. Now Lithuania is a pretty prosperous and developed country ranking pretty high in terms of democracy, human rights etc.
@dovydaslevanavicius9050
@dovydaslevanavicius9050 Жыл бұрын
high terms of democracy? sure
@danielnosevich902
@danielnosevich902 Жыл бұрын
@Dovydas Levanavicius Just out of curiosity, please point out some things that are not democratic in Lithuania, as I don't think you know what democracy stands for mate.
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
Actually racism is democratic
@bottytoohotty
@bottytoohotty Жыл бұрын
Lithuanians hate the Polish and they are neighbours. I'm not sure its entirely race related. The Lithuanians are a special breed. They work hard and drink harder than the Irish. Also has the highest suicide rate in the world . Strage place. Food is rough too.
@akalion213
@akalion213 Жыл бұрын
Europeans are just racist as fuck in general. Nothing special about Lithuania. I mean fuck pretty much all of the world is racist unfortunately.
@akalion213
@akalion213 Жыл бұрын
@Adrians Cehins These types of comments are the most retarded shit out there
@LukasSRR
@LukasSRR Жыл бұрын
​@Adrians Cehins stfu žirgų galva
@georllyyt7138
@georllyyt7138 7 ай бұрын
As a Lithuanian, I,m really sorry for your experience. Now all of teams have at least 5 black guys and Lithuanian footbal is way more advanced and popular.
@ffriend258
@ffriend258 Жыл бұрын
It was a bit difficult to ignore this video as I am Lithuanian living in the UK. First of all let me say that I have no intention to defend racism and I am not going to justify what those 'away fans' did. I would like to make few points though: - There were (and still are) many foreign players of different races who played sports in Lithuanian teams (mainly basketball and football) since mid 90's. Most of them have a positive impression of the country and local fans - Football fans around the world (not just in Eastern Europe) are generally known to be more violent than other sports. This does not justify racist chants but kind of sets the context of why incidents like this could occur - Football is not the major sport in Lithuania. Football games in Lithuania don't gather massive crowds (unlike in UK or elsewhere). So a football game in the 90s/00s in Lithuania could have mostly gathered up to few thousand people at best. Plus you have a tiny minority (mostly few hundred) of fans who are real ultras - these are the loudest and most agressive fans who are most likely to engage in racist abuse - In general, Lithuania has a very low rate of hate crime that include racial abuse I would like to end by saying that I feel really sorry for the fact that some foreigners experience racial abuse, however I am tempted to see these as isolated incidents and not 'the entire country is/was that way' or 'ppl were so mean 20 yrs ago' Example of American athlete who played in the country 20yrs ago and has great memories: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZy4qKyZm7yDkKM
@tuor8087
@tuor8087 Жыл бұрын
Top bloke.
@Narodow007
@Narodow007 Жыл бұрын
wow..Vakaru frontas was on fire that time period..
@liamfeely
@liamfeely Жыл бұрын
Disgusting this happened to such a good bloke if he fought them they'd be crushed
@greenboy1822
@greenboy1822 7 ай бұрын
it's interesting. Because I moved to Lithuania and now I am struggling with racism even in emigration office and they are really bothering me I think that I will come back to my country because there is no chance in my opinion
@everythingizextreme666
@everythingizextreme666 3 ай бұрын
Not much change then?
@deiv007s
@deiv007s Жыл бұрын
Pretty normal for 90s, early 2000s Baltic states. He was probably the first black person most people ever seen. Same thing would have happened to a white man in Africa a long time ago. People’s ignorance has decreased significantly in the post soviet countries, plenty of foreigners now living in Lithuania.
@MsSignedUp
@MsSignedUp Жыл бұрын
Nepamiršk nevadint Lietuvos “post-soviet country”, nes rusiška propaganda tuom naudojas, o kai kurie amerikiečiai dėl to iki šiol galvoja, kad mes kaip JAV valstijos buvom vienoj šaly SSRS, bet kažkodėl sugalvojom atsiskirt, o ne, kad mus okupavo. Mes nesam post-soviet šalis, nes mes nesusikūrėm kaip šalis PO sovietmečio. Šituo post-soviet bs naudojas Rusija db pvz. puldama Ukraina, nes tą “post-soviet” frazavimą galima skirtingai interpretuot ir užsukt. Atsargiai. Geriau gal sakyt “countries that were a part of USSR” arba “that were ocuppied by USSR”.
@deiv007s
@deiv007s Жыл бұрын
@@adrianscehins7366 who’s crying ?
@panbanan1151
@panbanan1151 Жыл бұрын
"Same thing would have happened to a white man in Africa a long time ago" Lol Africa are full of racists who dislike whites and call them milking cow. But i guess that's okay since they're black and negus can't racist.
@rimazukiene9586
@rimazukiene9586 8 ай бұрын
Im lithuanian im not racist at all i have never seen anyone be racist
@bluboi2591
@bluboi2591 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad to hear how our country affected you, and i would say "give it another chance" or "now our people have changed", but i still see the same way our people treat people of color and it disgusts me. I was fortunate enough to be born, raised and finish school with caring and understanding people, and they know better than to be doing something so petty as being disrespectful to their own kind even if it's not their own race. But there still are people who are active racists, one of them is a close friend of my family, and he's a nice guy, but since he was a part of the army and obsessed with war he even teaches that it's okay to call black people "monkeys" to his own kids(tbf, they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but still). I know this will change sooner or later, since our younger generation is more accepting, but i can only hope that it gets better.
@Useryoutube1127
@Useryoutube1127 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your experience. We still have a share of people like that but our society changed a lot. The title is misleading, it looks that it happened recently. That is why i clicked even I dont know this football player or this podcast. Should be added it happened 20 years ago in the title.
@cleansed4504
@cleansed4504 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully the situation drastically changed in those 20 years you might get some weird looks as a black person because it's unusual to see one here but it's very unlikely to encounter any blatant racism especially in the bigger cities.
@edwing8380
@edwing8380 Жыл бұрын
Lithuanian as well they sometimes seems like they dont understand what they saying with out harm being done so when zalgiris won euroleaugue in late 90s or who where main players and still respected anthony bowie and tyous edny so nothin but respect
@gytisvasiliauskas4134
@gytisvasiliauskas4134 Жыл бұрын
I'm Lithuanian and I'm sorry to hear that.. and sorry for that behavior. It's the old guard and especially sports fans. They find the most stupid thing to shout at you when things are going bad and then turn 180 when things are going good. Things are going better now and the racism is going away especially in bigger cities. But again I'm very disappointed and as I said I'm sorry for that experience.
@Nova-lv9jt
@Nova-lv9jt Жыл бұрын
As Lithuanian at the time we didn't have many races just white people so if we saw a black guy or asian we probably said some racial slur but now I was last summer it's going better for us and accept another races sorry for you're experience in our country
@damienbrown6764
@damienbrown6764 Жыл бұрын
Top bloke imagine this lump running at you
@danilapolesciuk4316
@danilapolesciuk4316 Жыл бұрын
When he said "22 years ago" i know this about too be bad
@FirstLast-br7cm
@FirstLast-br7cm 10 ай бұрын
I've read a lot of comments on this KZbin video and I thought I would give my experience of Lithuania as a black man. I have visited Vilnius three times between July 2021 and August 2022, staying for 2 weeks each time. The first two times that I visited Vilnius was during lockdown, so I spent little time around the general public. During the third time, lockdown was lifted and I noticed Vilnius was much busier. On my third stay, I was walking with a friend of mine (white Lithuanian woman) and her little boy (2 years old at the time) who is visibly mixed-race. As we were crossing the road, there were a group of guys (looked to be in their 40s) in a van that shouted "Chornigala" (something that sounded like that) in our direction, obviously at myself, her child or both of us. Not understanding what they said, she explained that it was a racist remark. Even though we are friends, we could have easily have been a family on a day-out, being exposed to racism like this in front of a small child. I was born and bred in London and I'm in my thirties now. You don’t have to dig deep to notice the racial dimension to Britain’s colonial and imperialist history. Yet ironically, in my lifetime (was very common in my parents generation), I've never had a seemingly sane member of the public brazenly shout something racist at me - only from drunkards or mental-ill white people on a handful of occasions (not excusing this btw). The same friend spoke to me a few days ago and said that she was sitting on the beach with her little boy. Some other kids had built a sand castle and then ran into the water to play. Being a little child, her son went over to the sand castle and kicked it. Bear in mind her son is about 3 years old now. One of the other kids noticed, got angry and shouted a racist remark, referring to him as a nig_ger in Russian in the presence of their own mother. The mother scolded her son for his behaviour. Literally seconds after this happened another child nearby, of no relation to the first group of kids, noticed my friend’s son and said “there’s a little negro on the beach”. I wanted to post our experiences of Vilnius because the everyday Lithuanian doesn’t see this side of their society unless you are amongst someone this is an ethnic minority. We are in the same spaces with completely different experiences. This is not Lithuania from 20 years ago, this is present-day Lithuania. By the way, I am not asking that Vilnius should be more inclusive and open to people. In relation to specifically black people, we have been subjected to so much that it’s about time we take ourselves out of foreign lands and re-establish ourselves back in Africa. It’s a mammoth challenge but I think it’s the only way we will truly be available to navigate as individuals and not as “black people” in the world. That’s a whole different conversation though. Also, this is not a dig at Lithuania becuase I think it's a European problem and when we look through history, this is not surprising. My two cents… EDIT: If anyone is interested in pre-colonial African history that is not from a Eurocentric perspective, I recommend reading "Precolonial Black Africa" and "The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality" by Senegalese scholar Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop. Peace
@thewatcher5846
@thewatcher5846 11 ай бұрын
Like the interviewer says, HE CAN'T IMAGINE HOW IT FEELS. So yeah while I'm living here in Lithuania I pretty much have the same Fuck it Attitude.. I'm here to work until I go back home. I guess I'll get used to folks in. Vilnius looking at me all day while i go about my daily life...
@ignasr_9
@ignasr_9 Жыл бұрын
It's so sad to see how so many black people only get love when they prove their value. They are inherently valuable like any other person, yet so many experience racism up until they prove that they can score goals, or play an instrument or whatever else it is...I can't imagine what it's like to have to earn the right to be treated like a human. Vile.
@seaniek9175
@seaniek9175 Жыл бұрын
Sounds horrendous but at least it ended on a positive. Shows how easily led people are in goin with the mob
@makatelli
@makatelli Жыл бұрын
As a black guy this is why i will never go to eastern europe. Heard so many similar stories about the blatant racism there.
@litd3x411
@litd3x411 Жыл бұрын
He had a horrible experience no doubt, but it was 22 years ago and times have changed a lot if you came to Lithuania you would see it for yourself. A lot of people judge places they have no idea about or their history. Older generations (above 40/50ish) sometimes have lets call them weird views but its not socially acceptable and some of them think certain things only because of what they have experienced during soviet times.
@noogate2672
@noogate2672 Жыл бұрын
Went to Prague on a stag do with a black lad in our group and the only racism we experienced all weekend was from the Africans who promote the strip clubs who didn't like that he was mates with White people.
@steffanhuw8556
@steffanhuw8556 Жыл бұрын
ye shithole id avoid
@lifeiscreepingdeath
@lifeiscreepingdeath Жыл бұрын
Good, please never come here! 😊
@makatelli
@makatelli Жыл бұрын
@@lifeiscreepingdeath i have no intention to😃
@danju132
@danju132 Жыл бұрын
So embarrassed to hear this being from Lithuania... hopefully our people have more sense now
@McArkoff
@McArkoff Жыл бұрын
I was about 20 years old when my friend Vilniaus Zalgiris ultra invited me to the Zalgiris-Atlantis match, I came to the match and there was that match about who is talking here, I was standing in that tribune and everyone chanted Ziga.. .among them was my friend, I couldn't believe that it was happening, because until then I had never been to a stadium and watched football only on TV. I didn't have the option to talk to my friend then, but the next day I asked him why they behave like that, and he said, basketball is niggaz game not football, I was really upset because that friend of mine was a really good person, but he was in a poor environment that made an impact for him. Then I asked him again, what will happen if there are black players in Zalgiris, are you will also be chanted the same way? He replies that this will not happen, Žalgiris is not that kind of team. About two weeks passed and Zalgiris took 6 Brazilians at once, all of them were black. I say to that friend, what's going on now? He says they are Brazilians, they are different from those negroes... Now, after 20+ years, you won't hear such chants in the Zalgiris fans standings, but unfortunately, I know for sure that there are still couple open racists among my team fans. Well, at least that friend of mine completely changed his attitude, it can be called a victory.
@Tm_Martishius
@Tm_Martishius Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, as a Lithuanian, I would like to apologise on behalf of all Lithuanians, we don't claim those animals that call themselves fans, things are way different nowadays, I promise!
@kaxar6954
@kaxar6954 Жыл бұрын
I think he said it was away fans. Not all Lithuanians. Every country has ignorant idiots.
@FobazF
@FobazF Жыл бұрын
All these ppl saying it was like that 20 years ago and now it’s different - it’s not. The issue is still there at sports games. Heard plenty of monkey sounds being made by the Lithuanian fans during Lithuania Spain basketball game in Eurobasket tournament in Berlin when Lorenzo was scoring. So yeah, sadly racisim and bigotry is still there among sports fans… but then again have you seen your typical Lithuanian sports fan? No surprise here…
@genjy1161
@genjy1161 Жыл бұрын
Bro loves cutting the story short
@dedbit6723
@dedbit6723 Жыл бұрын
As some of the other Lithuanians in the comments here, I want to say sorry as well that you had to go through this. I honestly hope that this is no longer a thing whatsoever. Nothing but respect and admiration for you mate 💪
@trumpgaming5998
@trumpgaming5998 Жыл бұрын
Eastern european brothers as always, based as hell,
@mast3r346
@mast3r346 Жыл бұрын
all the cuckholds apologizing here , all the zoomers generation lmao .
@jameshuggett
@jameshuggett Жыл бұрын
Deep
@thedanksoul6558
@thedanksoul6558 Жыл бұрын
honestly i feel bad for what happened, but the timing for your arrival was brutal, the country was in a state where it felt like half the people in the country were gangsters self sustaining and also working for real gangs, so it was about as bad as people stereotypically call out USA. cheers for pushing through the hardships!
@nazarietis
@nazarietis Жыл бұрын
😢
@xXItZzLeWXx
@xXItZzLeWXx Жыл бұрын
Don’t take this the wrong way, it’s just my opinion, but… I don’t think it’s very good to racially abuse people
@ExodentalCADAcademyofNorth
@ExodentalCADAcademyofNorth 4 ай бұрын
Good thing he did not step back 😄 Those times for a any guy was more like a prison. You had to stand for your authority. Savage times.
@connorhall70
@connorhall70 Жыл бұрын
Now that is some proper racism lol
@brandonm8901
@brandonm8901 Жыл бұрын
So much racism in football - shocking
@JM-qs5hk
@JM-qs5hk Жыл бұрын
These views are prevalent in all eastern European countries, and is an indicator of the intelligence level these people operate at. The fact that we had open borders for so long to allow them in the UK is mind-blowing.
@hellonihaocomoestas
@hellonihaocomoestas 11 күн бұрын
just started studying in this country. it's incredibly racist here
@Oberschutzee
@Oberschutzee Жыл бұрын
Based Lithuanians
@simonasseputa4115
@simonasseputa4115 Жыл бұрын
Akinfenwa u people stopped at time in 2007 Lithuania village Pakrojis
@mzarectah
@mzarectah Жыл бұрын
Born and raised in Lithuania. I completely believe this man. It has however grown more progressive since then and is a much better place now both for the residents and visitors
@BigHH88
@BigHH88 Жыл бұрын
Progressive isn't better
@Wolfy420
@Wolfy420 Жыл бұрын
@Adrians Cehins ... you're not even from Lithuania, and yes it has
@tomastomastomas1521
@tomastomastomas1521 Жыл бұрын
Fyi. Word negras does not have negative meaning in Lithianian language. It is allowed to use in everyday language. Disturbing to see one more "victim" of something that has happened 20+ years ago. Things have changed greatly
@cupcakesmile9609
@cupcakesmile9609 Жыл бұрын
Bruh... Seni tu durnas ar apsimeti?
@tomastomastomas1521
@tomastomastomas1521 Жыл бұрын
@@cupcakesmile9609 bruh 🤦 kas butent tave suneramino?
@TamrielicScholar
@TamrielicScholar Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian
@thehorsecockexpress1068
@thehorsecockexpress1068 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that seems to be the most written thing in the comments. They all sound like bots
@Erzvilkai
@Erzvilkai Жыл бұрын
@@thehorsecockexpress1068 They are, even their names are not lithuanian at all.
@rinkairiozuki7245
@rinkairiozuki7245 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Tittle of the video is not only bad, but also insulting for Lithuanian people, cause that was 20 years ago. And i just came to comment that. Is it true? Yes, i believe it is. And i am sorry for his experience in the country. That was 2000s, and my Country went FAR from what it was back then, and i won't let it discredit it. But let me say it straight: 2000s was tough for everyone. I could top his stories 10 times, from my personal experience, which get's even harder then his "verbal" abuse. Lithuania was Post Soviet country back then, deep in corruption, low on security, low on Police presence, gangs were running everything. You couldn't go for a walk after sunset, and there were public parks where you get beaten up 95% of the time while it's dark. Or, you just walk during daylight, 5 guys sitting and they shout at you. Take a glance and you met with "Why are you looking at us? want to be beaten?" Or if you don't look you met with "Why you don't look at us? Want to be beaten?" Dudes were doing anything just to pick a fight. And BELIEVE me, someone calling you Donkey ass, is least of your concern.
@frieza2235
@frieza2235 Жыл бұрын
Eastern Europe is a crazy place
@AveChristusRex789
@AveChristusRex789 Жыл бұрын
Rip Miura
@pauliusziemelis7355
@pauliusziemelis7355 Жыл бұрын
Lithuania is noth eu
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa Жыл бұрын
@@pauliusziemelis7355 nemeluok
@dovydaslevanavicius9050
@dovydaslevanavicius9050 Жыл бұрын
its a based place
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa
@Aitvarasspecialiujuoperacijupa Жыл бұрын
@@dovydaslevanavicius9050 💯
@robi7154
@robi7154 Жыл бұрын
Bringing awarness to english racism. By using lithuania as an example, 22 years later.
@sassythesasquatch4425
@sassythesasquatch4425 Жыл бұрын
Even UK is racist. Sadly its everywhere. Moved here in UK at 9 and in 2004 to now it has changed but back in 2004-2015 yeah had my shares of racism
@Koce2011
@Koce2011 Жыл бұрын
does why I walk around/away from all of this becouse on the day end they call me racist🤷‍♂️ What is mean Žiga/Ziga?
@simonasseputa4115
@simonasseputa4115 Жыл бұрын
None u don’t say if you be big city oh no drive to Pakruojis how he,he doing to yourself ad
@elmacho0982
@elmacho0982 Жыл бұрын
Lithuania isn't mentioned online very often and for it to be mentioned like this is saddening. People in Lithuania are usually introverted and don't go out of their way to talk to someone, say like a person in America or some other place. Very sorry for you man, it's just embarrassing. I'm sure it's not like this now, people are (or should be) more accepting of asian and african people, especially younger people. It's the older people who are like this.
@tautvydassatas
@tautvydassatas Жыл бұрын
Ashamed to hear it as Lithuanian, but not surprised... Post soviet mentality was thriving then and still alive now. Anyone different is worst human being than you. Its much better now in big towns, but you could easily expect same treatment in viliges even now. Anyway sorry again and gives us one more chance for quick holiday this summer ;))
@artetamenta
@artetamenta Жыл бұрын
Bro this is Slavic, Baltic, Balkan mentality
@2jzupra
@2jzupra Жыл бұрын
bruh its been 22 years since then, 90% of european countries we're like that back then, kinda unfair how this interview portrays lithuania as some nazi country lmao, title should be renamed so as not to sound that this happened recently
@AceMixes
@AceMixes Жыл бұрын
Bored of hearing it tbh don’t apologise if you wasn’t involved simple as that
@polomarco1488
@polomarco1488 Жыл бұрын
Don’t disrespect my nation🇱🇹. We treated you right.
@MantasDoesVideos
@MantasDoesVideos Жыл бұрын
No you didint treat him right.. and I'm Lithuanian
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
@@MantasDoesVideos You are a clown
@MantasDoesVideos
@MantasDoesVideos Жыл бұрын
@100 Rupees let me ask you this you support slavery?
@MantasDoesVideos
@MantasDoesVideos Жыл бұрын
@Slava Ukraini answer the question
@MantasDoesVideos
@MantasDoesVideos Жыл бұрын
@Slava Ukraini yes I do and I'm not just speaking about 1race I'm speaking about every race
@fiddlecastro1453
@fiddlecastro1453 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to hear stories like this. So peculiar to hear legitimate stories over the ''the police are all waycist because they dare to tackle knife crime in London etc...''
@KevinGhin
@KevinGhin Жыл бұрын
Lithuanians are very close minded. Recently my brother started saying that he would rather be under putins rule than under americas influence just becouse america accepts gay people. Despite the fact that if the soviet union didnt collapse, our parents wouldnt have met in italy and neither of us wouldve been born. Theres alot of bigotary even with the alternative comunities that claim to be better. The people here are angry and take it out on others. I barely have friends here becouse people here on any side of politics are just so extreme about everything and unwilling to change a bit to grow. everyone thinks they know everything and are stuborn about it.
@KevinGhin
@KevinGhin Жыл бұрын
im really glad someone is actually saying something about it now becouse when noone talks about it people just say theres no racism here
@msg7399
@msg7399 Жыл бұрын
Extremely disappointed to hear this as a Lithuanian😢 , sorry you had to go trough su chaos
@dovydas988
@dovydas988 Жыл бұрын
Nah man such a shame to hear such things about Lithuania. It was a while ago I suppose I wasn’t even born yet. But not much has change still yk. So shameful on my own people fucking hell man. Respect for ya for not leaving and kind of standing your ground fam
@ree2453
@ree2453 Жыл бұрын
"not much has changed" nu neberukyk to karvasudzio, zmogau
@mephistophelesgg7963
@mephistophelesgg7963 Жыл бұрын
nothing really shameful, we don't want someone like them here
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
Klounas
@dovydas988
@dovydas988 Жыл бұрын
@@rio5347 aš klounas ?
@rio5347
@rio5347 Жыл бұрын
@@dovydas988 Jo
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