Alabama Tortures Man To Death For 22 Minutes | The Kyle Kulinski Show

[@certs743]

What is just as disturbing is even after they knew they had fucked up someone made the decision to keep going for 22 minutes.

[@JamesWilliams-dg9jw]

like the tide, we don't give up

[@TiniestD]

@@JamesWilliams-dg9jwtide goes in tide goes out?

[@sawtooth808]

Very on brand for the state of Alabama 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@Test-vr3kf]

Reminds me of some show I saw where the accused was thrashing around and one of the police decided to shoot him (to put him out of his misery) and of course the police person then went to prison.

[@jimbob9407]

Imagine defending a murderer

[@djchromatix4640]

I love how anti- abortion ppl support the death penalty 😂😂😂

[@alextrusk1713]

What about pro life anti death penalty position

[@connnnnnor]

they're natalists. not pro-life. they believe that all forms of birth control and family planning is against their religious text. it's not that they believe in the preciousness of human life, they believe that it should be ILLEGAL to have any kind of sexual intercourse outside of procreation. more procreation = more people = less resources = easier to fleece people for their money

[@davidkramp1829]

I mean fetuses don’t commit crimes do they lol

[@John-gi6yh]

So killing a fetus is ok but killing a killer isn’t? A fetus doesn’t take someone’s life. The progressive mental gymnastics should be studied because it’s baffling

[@connnnnnor]

they're not pro-life. they're anti-family planning

[@Libbathegreat]

I followed this story for the past year. There was a lot of f*ckery that went on before Smith's death which is left out here and in a lot of reporting since Smith's death: -During his first execution (Nov. 2022), Smith was strapped to a gurney struggling to breathe for *4 hours* while they stabbed needles into his hands, his feet, his collarbone and all over his body trying to find a vein. That torture only stopped when the state's death warrant for Smith expired at midnight. -That was Alabama's *3rd* botched execution in 2022. Following that, there was a pause on executions while ADoC conducted an *internal review* which (surprise, surprise) cleared ADoC of any wrongdoing. -ADoC issued a 1.5 page report blaming inmate's lawyers for trying to "run out the clock" (that's a direct quote) trying to get last-minute stays for their clients which put "undue pressure" on ADoC employees at the time of the execution. In other words, they admitted they couldn't cope with legal due process that plays out in every death penalty case across the nation. -Veterinarians don't even use nitrogen hypoxia on mammals (except pigs) as a form of euthanasia because it causes too much distress to the animals. -A few months before the execution, ADoC issued a "protocol" for nitrogen hypoxia execution which was *heavily redacted* which caused alarm for Smith's lawyers and medical experts. -Medical experts warned for months that this would NOT be a remotely humane way to put someone to death. The UN even called on Alabama not to carry it out and said they would be subjecting Smith to "torture", which proved correct. -ADoC forced Smith's spiritual advisor Dr. Jeff Hood to sign a waiver saying they couldn't guarantee Dr. Hood's safety if the nitrogen were to leak from Smith's face mask. -On the day the execution happened, John Hamm of ADoC came out and said everything went as expected. Every other witness said otherwise. _“The threshold question of the death penalty isn’t whether someone deserves to die for the crime they’ve committed. The threshold question is: do we deserve to kill?”_ - Bryan Stevenson, an anti-death penalty lawyer ADoC damn sure doesn't "deserve to kill" if they can't kill any better than this.

[@Libbathegreat]

I forgot to mention, Smith's jury recommended a life sentence. The judge _overruled_ them to impose the death penalty. That practice has since been abolished nationwide.

[@ugosleep]

no one cares, cry about it

[@Libbathegreat]

​@@ugosleep Ever wonder why you don't have any friends and no one likes you?

[@toxendon]

​@@ugosleepYou obviously care

[@krelekari]

Thank you for the further breakdown paragraphs to help ❤

[@azarahwagner2749]

I’m no expert but holy cow… it was nitrogen not nitrous oxide ( dental anesthetic) That was sick AF

[@wrathofainz]

I remember my time on laughing gas having my teeth taken out. They put the mask on, then I woke up and they wheeled me out to the car. They should have used that instead.

[@thescaredshadow]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact, that it wasn't the jury that gave the death penalty. They originally gave him a life sentence, it was the judge that put him on death row.

[@robingourde9366]

A life sentence he served 35 years of.

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

What a Chad that judge is

[@Michael_Smith_1]

Based and Chad judge

[@ugosleep]

Sigma Judge, Based and Chad as well

[@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973]

Based judge

[@CyphersPryde]

My fiancé whose a nurse read about this and was absolutely HORRIFIED! A 22 minute death she described what he would have gone through and I was nauseated and horrified

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

Isn't she the same hypocrite who doesn't oppose abortion and mutilation surgeries for transgenders?

[@chuck4063]

Wait til you hear about the woman he executed for $1,000

[@Sparrow.in.the.treetop]

What about the folks he killed

[@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973]

I dont care

[@Alexadria205]

​@@Sparrow.in.the.treetopClassic whataboutism. I swear most people think like children.

[@michaeld4861]

So basically Black Mirror is about as good a future as we can hope to look forward to in the US.

[@whodey2112]

Yeah, I wonder why these things aren't filmed. Almost like most people would be horrified if they got to see it.

[@40roam]

I know chemistry is more complicated than my general intuition, but the air I fucking breathe is 78% nitrogen. I heard about this and figured this would happen. But again, I'm no scientist.

[@supernaught1963]

And water is 33% oxygen; still won't be purchasing a time share in Bikini Bottom.

[@henchme976]

At least in theory, you aren't supposed to percieve nitrogen asphyxiation. Since there is still air in your lungs (as you say air is around 80% nitrogen), you aren't supposed to feel a feeling of suffocation. You just get lightheaded, pass out, and die. It can even be used to assassinate people because it's so undetectable. In practice anything can be botched (even a gunshot to the head as Kyle suggests). I don't know if a full audit has been done on what happened here. Maybe he just thrashed around not out of physical pain but because he was scared and resisting? (Which is of course a torture all its own) Or maybe he did feel pain somehow. As for why it took so long, maybe there was a leak in the equipment they used to administer it or something? Who knows?

[@devondevon4366]

What a waste of five lives. Crime doesn't pay. The pastor who hired the three men to kill his wife committed suicide. All three men are now deceased, two by the death penalty, and the other died in prison. Kenneth Smith was paid $1,000 and spent 36 years in prison. But that amounts to just less than 28 dollars per year. So, if he saved just 28 dollars per year from any regular job since the time of his incarceration, he would have more than the 1,000 dollars he was paid to kill the pastor.' wife. And even purchasing power is factored in, it just makes no sense and a waste of lives for nothing as $1,000 in 1988 as the same purchasing power as $2,543 in 2024 ( or $70 per year for the 36 years he served), but he could have even gotten more $2,543 in Pell grants and Tap even in 1988 to go college, which would have even more purchasing power in 2024. You know how many people had tuition fully paided and cash still in their pocket far more than 1,000 dollar in the past and today? a lot. What a waste?

[@bearclaw5115]

People aren't rational. Indeed your comment is so rational as to be irrational. Not knocking you, sometimes I do these calculations myself.

[@hugegamer5988]

You are failing to not apply logic.

[@devondevon4366]

@@bearclaw5115 People aren't rational, but the overwhelming majority would not kill for 1000 dollars in a country which had one of the highest per Capita GDP, let alone with three other accomplices being awared it, and yes, they didn't believe they would be caught. But the point I wanted to make was that he likely was doing the same calculation while in prison on how he wasted his life and would have saved more than 1000 dollars for those 36 years and have his life as well. Lifers often times do the same calculation on prison documentaries, including Scared Straight, on how they could have earned the same honesty hoping to scare youth straight. I knew of an ex inmate who said to acollege grad ' Man, I mess up I could have gotten my tuition fully paid, (Pell and Tap in the 80s)just like you, enough money to buy books and to spend freely, and you an immigrant .I I was born here.' Tap fully covered the person's tuition and enough money from Pell exceeding 1,000 dollars Yes, inmates and ex-inmates do these calculation, and some hope others dont follow them.

[@devondevon4366]

@@hugegamer5988 Yes, he didn't know all these things could have happened else he wouldn't have done it, but I was making the point that he made these calculations, like many other inmates, before his death and realized that the cost made no sense compared to the 1000-dollar benefit. Hopefully, others will learn from this.

[@nokiruza]

People obviously don't apply rational thinking in these situations. If they did, the death penalty might actually be a deterrent but it's not.

[@seanbinkley7363]

I think the thing about this that bugs me the most is the dude they executed killed one person as a contract killer. As far as I've been able to read in the sources I found, he was paid by a pastor to murder his wife (who he killed by stabbing with another guy). I've not read that there was a sexual component to the crime or anything like that and while it's definitely still a horrific act that deserved a lengthy sentence, the dude was not some serial killer/torturer like a Dahmer or a Bundy. People convicted of similar crimes (though brutal and unforgivable) are serving long sentences in prison. It seems like an odd choice to execute THIS particular dude in THIS particular way for killing one person when there wasn't any component of his crime that was extra horrific if that makes sense? So often the way death penalties are applied (as in which kinds of convicted criminals are chosen to be executed) is just wildly inconsistent.

[@robingourde9366]

He did serve a lengthy sentence. 35 years of it.

[@FlameHAZE2010]

​@@robingourde9366At that point, why not let it be a life sentence?

[@Sparrow.in.the.treetop]

He still murdered someone

[@TwinBladeFury]

He beat her nearly to death before stabbing her when he was given a gun to do it quickly... the death penalty makes since considering he literally only murdered her the way he did because of the pleasure it brought him. He is truly a sadistic monster and the idea that his pain is something literally anyone should care about is a mystery to me.

[@leeuchiha5661]

Agreed no sympathy not sorry. ​@@TwinBladeFury

[@dylanking9738]

As much as I am a progressive leftist. I tend to agree with the right wing on the death penalty. “Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent” -Adam Smith. The people who get sentenced to death were totally unconcerned with the rights and feelings of the victims and those who loved them. But we expect the state to act like robots in sentencing? What does that say to the victims friends and family?

[@stefan4159]

Exactly. This John Stuart Mill quote is, equally, interesting: "Does fining a criminal show want of respect for property, or imprisoning him, for personal freedom? Just as unreasonable is it to think that to take the life of a man who has taken that of another is to show want of regard for human life."

[@CCStmac]

A 3rd world country we are

[@ryno_8848]

Indeed, we are a gilded Third World country

[@funandgames4645]

No we aren’t. Not even close.

[@DoNotImpose]

@@funandgames4645 you have very low standards

[@Domzdream]

@@funandgames4645 Apparently you’re still asleep. May I ask - how old are you? I’m curious.

[@tbrown4080]

Yes, 3rd world

[@SpaceyMonkey75]

I'm not sure if you mentioned this but it's not possible for doctors to administer a lethal injection or any type of lethal medication because of their Hippocratic Oath. These procedures are always carried out by non-medical professionals.😮

[@LEP021085]

There is a doctor involved. They have to pronounce the deceased.

[@tomthorsett1433]

Were there no scientists who approved this or is this what passes for science in Alabama?

[@jonathangasana]

How is this not cruel and unusual punishment? I swear this is NK type stuff.

[@ugosleep]

wahhhhhh muh leftard murderer hero

[@professional.commentator]

Ngl but our Constitution is literally a joke at this point.

[@VampageRampage]

@@professional.commentatorIt always was, “Let me, a non Christian, capitalist class, land+slave owing, tax-dodger, explain to you all how all men are created equal.” Written on hemp paper which was later made illegal by their same capitalist to monopoly expanded interests, by a bunch of drunks that could barely stand…take everything they said with a giant grain of salt. They went from Andrew Jackson dying saying, “I killed the banks” to the banks CRUSHING THEM ALL in 1913 by their stupid monetary system.

[@Bynt]

Can’t believe this is allowed in a “first” world country. What a pathetic joke we are.

[@mauricioquintero2420]

US is only first when it comes to crimes against humanity.

[@donalobrien9422]

Alabama is a third world county.

[@standforhumanitariancauses4756]

Alabama and Mississippi are far worse than some of those 3rd world countries. In some 3rd world countries people are far more advanced, but they're controlled by theorats and dictators. But Alabama and Mississippi are part of a 1st world nation, and still backward.

[@salvadorpalma8173]

I am portuguese and I knew or had the impression that we were the first in europe to abolish it. I was just looking at a map with that info and it surprised me that most other european countries had it until the 1970s. Portugal abolished it in 1846. But yeah, even russia abolished it almost 30 years ago... Cmon US... You can do it!jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/europe-last-execution-year.jpg

[@user-hz5zl1do2w]

All first world countries have free healthcare and not all of the worlds first world countries combined have 1000 mass killings a year.There are no money allowed in politics in any first world nations.America is not a first world country.Sorry

[@vs-yy5cx]

its the big torture industrial complex!

[@ZTK-RC]

Good point on hypocrisy of people seeking revenge. It is like when these anti child molesters types advocate for sexual abuse against sex offenders.

[@funandgames4645]

I don’t know your opinion on this issue. But I won’t listen to a lot of leftists argue that the death penalty is hypocritical when those same people wished and laughed at the deaths of anti vaxxers while also saying they wanna save lives.

[@wilcee238]

@funandgames4645 Your brain should be considered a slip hazard.

[@funandgames4645]

@@wilcee238 Wow lol that’s best you could come up with huh?

[@oida10000]

@@funandgames4645 No one wished for these people to die, but when their own non-actions born out of ignorance that endangered others ended their own life a few people glowed. Your comparison is very absurd.

[@Sunflowrrunner]

​@@funandgames4645 There's a huge difference between schadenfreude and policy.

[@jennifersilves4195]

This was horrifying when I had thought it was 2 minutes.

[@Hirohitorunguard]

Death penalty is almost never the solution, violence only begets violence. Allowing death penalty also just breeds apathy for human life, and thus threatens the fundamental idea that life is sacred.

[@limitlessapocalypse2702]

Thats absolutely not true

[@ogge9304]

well said

[@Ashclayton1994]

​@@limitlessapocalypse2702 how is ot not true?

[@jimijamesjowitt]

Guy did less than Biden. So can they do Biden next? He is the leader of a coup government that has killed a lot of people.

[@eminentbishop1325]

​@@Ashclayton1994homies a troll looking for a fight hes not really willing to follow through on. Dont waste energy on the pathetic

[@HiroshimaXl]

They made it sound like it went so well on the radio

[@JamesWilliams-dg9jw]

It did he is dead

[@M0saab]

@@JamesWilliams-dg9jw I understand that you think you're really cool but torture is bad even if you torture an evil murderer bad guy you edgy loser

[@anthonytwohill9726]

"We tortured some folks."

[@winklethrall2636]

They must have really messed up the procedure, because death by entering a nitrogen atmosphere is well-known to industrial workers, happening so fast they there's hardly any time to react. Using a face mask sounded like a terrible idea. I use a CPAP mask, and it took me forever to find one that didn't leak a lot.

[@tonydalton459]

As someone who tried to use a CPAP mask and could not stand it, I can only imagine the horror of this. Yes, no doubt he was a bad guy, but I agree that the answer to murder is not more murder. Nothing civilised about the death penalty.

[@FNLNFNLN]

I'm wondering if the issue was that the seal was too good, and it was trapping the exhaled CO2 inside the mask instead of letting it dissipate. The reason inert gasses are dangerous is because your body doesn't respond to a lack of oxygen, only an excess of CO2, and in an industrial context, the CO2 you breath out is free to go off wherever. If you're blocking off oxygen, but not letting the CO2 escape, that's no different from just choking someone out normally.

[@Domzdream]

Why do people call themselves Christians if their 8th commandment strictly says - thou shalt not kill. IRONY - the religious reek with hypocrisy.

[@robingourde9366]

"vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord"

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

Why you want to force religion on people

[@ricomajestic]

Bible also says eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth!

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

@@ricomajestic wow I never knew that was from the Bible. Cool

[@robingourde9366]

@@ricomajestic Is there a verse that says "... a life for a life"?

[@gugurupurasudaikirai7620]

It's still probably actually a better way to go than lethal injection. The paralytic agents make lethal injection look peaceful from the outside but it isn't. This guy chose this method over lethal injection

[@Sunday_Woodward]

Imagine throwing your life away for $1K.

[@k-sarrajane7277]

? Why on death row for THIRTY YEARS

[@aweenlee8246]

the horrorshow continues in the prisons in usa.

[@porkyrabbit]

That poor murderer

[@extremebrah]

The nazis did the same thing...shame on the usa for using gas as death penalty.

[@msrmsh]

I thought !$!$ executions were brutal...they only caused few seconds of agony ....US tops the chart of brutality!!!

[@wilcee238]

I was pro death penalty until Jimmy Dore (before he became a right wing stooge) of all people gave a great argument against it. How we shouldn’t trust government to do it. What the hell happened to that guy?

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

$$$

[@colt45caliber]

sell out. I'm ashamed of him.

[@christophercarey3232]

I mean, the death penalty in general. What point does it proof other than the fact that we are no better than the criminals themselves?

[@rosscleary9110]

What a load of inane bullshit. Equating the punishment of a terrible individual to being the same as that individual purely because of the punishment enacted is asinine logic. It's literally comic book style thinking. Soo utterly childish.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

huge difference. criminals dont allow their victims to say their goodbyes. criminals dont allow their victims to see their loved ones and talk to them one last time. criminals dont allow their victims to have their last meal, to write their last letter and so on. he was allowed to say goodbyes, he was allowed to eat one last time and so on.

[@genreartwithjb5095]

The US is a developing country, it’s not part of the first world

[@xclampazzo]

Developing implies forward progress

[@johnsweazy358]

Civilized countries do not administer the death penalty! What does that say about the United States?

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

That it holds people accountable? I mean if you wanna say 'civilized', sure, Anders Breivik lives in a 'cell' that looks like a mini hotel room after he killed how many people? Seventy? And he's just allowed to eat, drink., live in a more less hotel cell while soaking up tax payer money and all his victims are dead. If that's 'civilized' in your definition, you can keep it.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

no way in the civilized countries criteria is defined there should be no death penalty.

[@sheepwshotguns42]

correction, 4% of the people we put down are innocent that we KNOW OF due to new methods of forensics, and we still dont have perfect methods of forensics... who know how many really belong there.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

still not as many as those who die before a verdict. from 2008 to 2019 ~5k have died who were never convicted of the charges on which they were being held. meaning yearly ~500 die before any guilty verdict. so who knows how many of those who never got the chance to prove their side in a court were innocent?

[@SmartDave60]

How can you be pro life and support the death penalty knowing the system isn’t 100%.

[@ryno_8848]

the power of cognitive dissonance and double speak

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

because you are ending the person who ends other people lives. But death cultists don't like that of course.

[@SmartDave60]

@@MagicBus-ct7fe the system isn’t 100%. So we know in some cases we aren’t doing that and instead murdering the innocent. From my point of view this fact should have pro lifers against the death penalty which again we know isn’t 100% accurate.

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

@@SmartDave60 you lose your right to live when you kill .

[@SmartDave60]

@@MagicBus-ct7fe sure but we know that the system isn’t 100% accurate. So you are willing to take innocent life under this system. Some innocent people will die having a death penalty. Are you as a pro life individual supporting a system that will take innocent when there are alternatives?

[@Arc115YT]

I hope every American sees this and knows how much pain this guy was in. It's simply time to abolish the death penalty.

[@limitlessapocalypse2702]

Uhhh … yeah no, we are not removing capital punishment lol

[@davidmeadows5627]

I'm sure his victims were in even more pain.

[@dbox9120]

@@davidmeadows5627exactly

[@Shsjier]

​@@davidmeadows5627how are you gunna be a grown ass man and not realise that's a stupid argument? And also not realise that innocent people get executed too?

[@921Ether]

based ​@@limitlessapocalypse2702

[@bluchu22]

I read somewhere that the jury overwhelmingly voted to give him a life sentence but the judge overruled them and converted the sentence to a death sentence. This could’ve been avoided if the judge simply followed the wishes of the jury.

[@jimbob9407]

Lmao imagine defending a murderer

[@Wingo537]

People don't really care about murderes

[@Killay2838]

I see nothing wrong with this. The dude was a murder. Im so sad

[@sharper68]

Then you need help, the guy was tortured to death. That this guy is a criminal does not make it ok for us to be monstrous too. You are not sad, you are scary.

[@antokent]

As usual of late, Kyle's bad with the facts. This guy CHOSE this method of execution because he didnt want a lethal injection. Yes its mental, but thats what he wanted

[@OfficiallyUnofficialKamala2024]

holy shit this guy doesn't even know the definition of murder

[@sylvio1687]

I completely disagree with you Kyle. Those who are against the d3ath penalty are saying that the punishment for this criminal has to be LESS than the one he imposed on the innocent victim. Morally, we have here a reductio ad absurdum for everyone who is against the d3ath penalty on this case.

[@blu3622]

Thank you for covering this atrocity. As an alabamian, I'm horrified by this.

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

Its not an atrocity. What's an atrocity is what Smith did to Elizabeth Sennet.

[@sqlb3rn]

Justice was served, I also live in alabama

[@cccreaturefeature]

@@sqlb3rn Explain to me how allowing the government to decide to kill people is justice? How did this help the victims? If it's such a good form of punishment, why do murders even happen in states where the death penalty is permitted?

[@sqlb3rn]

@@cccreaturefeature I can't, youtube automatically deletes my comment. The comments section is not a platform for nuanced debate of controversial topics.

[@krisniemczuk3452]

How the fuck can you execute somebody after 30 years? Can anybody imagine 30 years in the death row? No wonder why this place is going to hell.

[@Crandaddy81]

I'm not even a medical professional, and I KNOW how agonizing it would be to basically deprive someone of oxygen until they die. They deliberately CHOSE to torture this man to death...

[@brian8507]

Actually the prisoner chose this method

[@Crandaddy81]

@@brian8507 Just because he "chose" it doesn't mean he had informed consent. I know I wouldn't have chosen it, and if he had known what would happen, I doubt he would have either.

[@giancarlocarattini4985]

...aaand he botched his own 1st execution attempt in 2022 by starving and dehydrating himself (refusing liquids) JUST so the executioners could not find a vein and hopefully, survive to have his sentence commuted to life in prison. But see, we stubborn and ornery people here in 'Bama, so we gunna keep on tryin' til we can git 'er DONE!!

[@Libbathegreat]

@@giancarlocarattini4985 Now you look like buffoons. Worth it?

[@brian8507]

@Crandaddy81 maybe he should have chosen to not murder someone

[@stormthrush37]

I'm so confused by this happening, unless someone wanted him to die a torturous death and intentionally had things screwed up for this to happen? I've read more than once death by nitrogen gas is the most painless way to go, that you just basically go to sleep. Was that wrong? Did something screw up here?

[@cumulus1869]

You lose consciousness 10 seconds after decapitation from the guillotine. Just saying. 22min of agony or 10 seconds of agony? You tell me which one is more humane lol

[@JamesDibona]

That's what PRO-LIFE Governors do -

[@conmereth]

Hope the people telling me the other day that "this is totally humane" hear about what happened.

[@dawn5227]

My instant reaction was, this cant be humane. It sounded like it was going to be slow and tortuous, I'm no doctor, nurse or scientist that understands so, I'm thinking perhaps I was missing some fundamental facts. Turns out my instinct was correct, slow and painful.

[@porscheamartin]

I hate this!!! I hate it so much. The death penalty is immoral and hypocritical.

[@nikm5628]

In it's current state yes. It should be a choice, not forced on the convicted. That's just a small part of my view on it, but it can exist in a humane way. The US however is not a place I would allow that penalty to exist, not with how their cops, politicians and judges behave.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

is it? he didn't allow his victim(s) to say their goodbyes. he didn't allow his victim(s) to see their loved ones and talk to them one last time. he didn't allow his victim(s) to have their last meal, to write their last letter and so on. yet he was allowed to say goodbyes, he was allowed to eat one last time and so on.

[@charliedead5015]

Why didn't you mention what he did to garner the death penalty?

[@lux2094]

he did

[@gideonandrasi]

The bridge too far moment should have been when you aren't allowed to kill animals in that way. there is no scenario where it is ok for humans instead.

[@stormthrush37]

My understanding is this works very differently for humans than it does animals. Then again, given how poorly this went, who knows.

[@JamesWilliams-dg9jw]

u got it

[@Landgraf43]

Some animals can detect lack of oxygen, humans can't.

[@89ji76]

It almost seems like they’re TRYING to make these death penalty methods as brutal as possible. None of these modern methods seem even as humane as a firing squad.

[@stepheng1523]

Cant botch a firing squad

[@Libbathegreat]

ADoC would find a way. They are utter clowns.

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

I mean there was one dude that got shot by a firing squad like 50 times in the head and survived, I mean his face was messed up for the rest of his life but other than that he was perfectly fine, so yeah believe it or not it is possible to botch a firing squad LOL

[@crobinson2624]

22 mins of torture big deal! I sat through 10 mins of Adam Sandler’s movie Jack and Jill.

[@wilcee238]

I felt that way after 5 minutes of “Movie 43”.

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

I think cats or barbie are worse than jack and Jill

[@redjack2629]

They severely fucked this up. He should have passed out within a couple minutes anddied within 6. He was still getting oxygen, meaning either his mask was on wrong, or there was a fuck-up in the gas tank they used. If you're familiar with nitrogen narcosis, you ahould be well aware that this shouldn't have happened.

[@neiladlington950]

The thing is this dude probably wasn't even the same person he was when he committed the murder so many years ago. He was found guilty and by all logic and rational we claim to have as our foundation of being a civilized country, served his time. Someone should go to jail for this... I hope they make a movie about it and show how CRIMINALLY immoral the legal system has become

[@cheetah100]

Killing by nitrogen is not untested. Essentially it is asphyxiation by removing the oxygen. You are breathing 70% nitrogen right now. If applied correctly it should result in unconsciousness first, then after three or four minutes death. You can't function for 22 minutes without oxygen, so no idea what could have gone wrong here.

[@jaymambaje4021]

What happened to all the “pro life” values? Thanks for the coverage Kyle.

[@brian8507]

This argument can be turned around on ur side lol. Bone head

[@ImDemonWolf]

The same problem with this situation is the case with animal agriculture. Eradicate animal agriculture. Live vegan. Otherwise there exists multiple logical contradictions/hypocrisy if you are pro animal agriculture/antivegan.

[@imnotmike]

Sure, except that pigs aren't sentient creatures and don't understand the concept of life and death.

[@ImDemonWolf]

@@imnotmike You are one of the most delusional anti vegans I’ve ever seen to claim an extremely obvious untrue claim. First of all, what’s your definition of sentience? Sentience is simply the ability to have a subjective experience. The only mechanism we know to be true to have sentience is a functioning brain/cerebral ganglion/cerebral ganglia that consists of neurons/neuronic transmission(s). Since we know even human fetuses have such ability at approximately 8 weeks of a 9 month development, that would definitely mean pigs are sentient as they have the above criteria. Second of all, a pig has more neurons than a human fetus’ brain. That being, ~425 million neurons vs ~ 7 week human fetus of at ~250,000 neuron functioning brain. So, there’s no doubt a pig is sentient by definition. Second, if you mean by sentient as being active consciousness and awareness, well that’s also not true because pigs have the ability to express a will to live by screaming, oinking, dancing, crying, etc. like a human baby post birth to adulthood does. Therefore, your claim is debunked at face value. Lastly, by your logic, are you in favor of farming and murdering comatose, sleeping, unconscious humans? If not, that’s called hypocrisy which exposes your dishonesty. If so, I think there’s no further need to expose you as your position would be viewed as absurd as Nazi Germany to the public.

[@ImDemonWolf]

@@imnotmike You are one of the most delusional anti vegans I’ve ever seen to claim an extremely obvious untrue claim. First of all, what’s your definition of sentience? Sentience is simply the ability to have a subjective experience. The only mechanism we know to be true to have sentience is a functioning brain/cerebral ganglion/cerebral ganglia that consists of neurons/neuronic transmission(s). Since we know even human fetuses have such ability at approximately 8 weeks of a 9 month development, that would definitely mean pigs are sentient as they have the above criteria. Second of all, a pig has more neurons than a human fetus’ brain. That being, ~425 million neurons vs ~ 7 week human fetus of at ~250,000 neuron functioning brain. So, there’s no doubt a pig is sentient by definition. Second, if you mean by sentient as being active consciousness and awareness, well that’s also not true because pigs have the ability to express a will to live by screaming, oinking, dancing, crying, etc. like a human baby post birth to adulthood does. Therefore, your claim is debunked at face value. Lastly, by your logic, are you in favor of farming and murdering comatose, sleeping, unconscious humans? If not, that’s called hypocrisy which exposes your dishonesty. If so, I think there’s no further need to expose you as your position would be viewed as absurd as Nazi Germany to the public.

[@ImDemonWolf]

@@imnotmike You are one of the most delusional anti vegans I’ve ever seen to claim an extremely obvious untrue claim. First of all, what’s your definition of sentience? Sentience is simply the ability to have a subjective experience. The only mechanism we know to be true to have sentience is a functioning brain/cerebral ganglion/cerebral ganglia that consists of neurons/neuronic transmission(s). Since we know even human fetuses have such ability at approximately 8 weeks of a 9 month development, that would definitely mean pigs are sentient as they have the above criteria. Second of all, a pig has more neurons than a human fetus’ brain. That being, ~425 million neurons vs ~ 7 week human fetus of at ~250,000 neuron functioning brain. So, there’s no doubt a pig is sentient by definition. Second, if you mean by sentient as being active consciousness and awareness, well that’s also not true because pigs have the ability to express a will to live by screaming, oinking, dancing, crying, etc. like a human baby post birth to adulthood does. Therefore, your claim is debunked at face value. Lastly, by your logic, are you in favor of farming and murdering comatose, sleeping, unconscious humans? If not, that’s called hypocrisy which exposes your dishonesty. If so, I think there’s no further need to expose you as your position would be viewed as absurd as Nazi Germany to the public.

[@seto_kaiba_]

@@imnotmike Pigs definitely are sentient bro. I'm not a vegan but this is just a fact. Sentience has nothing to do with understanding the concept of life and death. Children don't understand life and death for a while either.

[@ilikeducksable]

Is there a reason why they don’t use carbon monoxide? Don’t people suffocate from it accidentally and they just kind of go to sleep?

[@wrathofainz]

You would need a perfect seal; none of the person's oxygenated breath can stay in the nitrogen chamber and no new oxygen can enter. It's easier and less painful to just obliterate the brain with 2 shotguns and a piece of string.

[@perrin6]

Where are the ‘moral’ Christians protesting these actions by the state ?

[@crank23that23]

How do you test execution methods?

[@JonKent-ye2uw]

Maybe Animals?

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

@@JonKent-ye2uw Or how about the scientists line up and volunteer? They're so gung-ho about it so why not? Leave the animals alone.

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

​@@matthewgordonpettipas6773real scientists were trying to tell everybody that this was a bad idea

[@josiealvarado2296]

Good Question!

[@colt45caliber]

On priests. They should have nothing to fear in the here after, right?

[@glebbus]

Pro-Hamas Kyle sharing us these news is such a cringe really.

[@DanielVance]

They clearly had the air mixture wrong. Nitrogen euthanasia bags have been used since the days of Kevorkian without problem. With the right mixture, it is quick and painless.

[@furrepanther]

And people wonder why I moved the F out of Alabama. 50 years ago.

[@AlanMars]

Kyle was close to understanding veganism there.

[@SolutionsWithin]

Killed that beautiful woman for only $1,000 ?!?! Damn…. That’s reprehensible 😢 I’m still against the death penalty b/c it’s statistically proven to not decrease per capita murder numbers, I think it puts people out of their misery, and the state sometimes gets the wrong guy! But still, $1000?!? Damn…. So sad.

[@LEP021085]

This is an interesting take. Some would argue that it does prevent future crimes.

[@cindys9858]

Some would also argue a woman asked for it by wearing a short skirt, some people are simply wrong, some are simply liars.@@LEP021085

[@SolutionsWithin]

@@LEP021085 I was only speaking about the reality of the facts which are reported. Generally speaking, states with the death penalty do not have fewer murders per capita. With regard to comparing cities, researching it is not easy b/c when they show murder rates you have to look carefully at the category of cities or states that are included in that report. For instance, one report might be only large cities (which leaves out dangerous smaller cities, and others might be cities over 100K pop which would leave out the most deadly city in America per capita which is Gary, IN. In any case, when comparing states specifically, I just looked it up on the Death Penalty Information Center and it says "the homicide rate in states with the death penalty has been between 48% to 101% higher in states with the death penalty than without it." So, it's just a matter of fact that death penalty by any measure does not act as a deterrent. The psychopath that I used to know has absolutely no trouble with being put to death. Cheers.

[@nathanielchieffallo4273]

​@@LEP021085 evidence would argue it does the opposite because it creates a society where people believe killing others solves problems. Which is heavily prevalent in America, given the death penalty and the constant "tough on crime" rhetoric along with our war machine and the justifications we always find to drop more bombs.

[@LEP021085]

@@nathanielchieffallo4273 what Evidence is that? Capital punishment does make sure that offender doesn’t commit crimes again. The USA, relatively, isn’t that “tough on crime.” You should look at the punishments for”crimes” in other countries. As far As the war machine man’s drop bombs part I don’t see as how that has to do with criminal Justice..but ok.

[@onemoreturn]

So in comparison, that guy's torture went on three times the lenght of this video. That's some surreal shit.

[@christopherbuss680]

Did they bother even talking to mixed gas divers? They could of told or informed the state what nitrogen poisoning is like and how it feels and what it does.

[@jimijamesjowitt]

Well he was only party to a murder. The actual one that wanted the murder suicided. They already did the cooffender. Now they done him. They did worse than the accused. Only rational option is al the executors get the same treatment. The did 2 people. Its insane to accuse him of anything when the are busy doing the same but also holding the victim captive for 30 years and torture him.

[@scotgraham3059]

Hey kyle...why don't you tell us why he was sentenced to death...????...what about the creulty he perpetrated to his innocent victims...???...

[@samspetifore9875]

Kyle is right. It should be ruled unconstitutional. If it is to exist though, it should be seen as being nasty and barbaric.

[@aidanflanagan4953]

Only Alabama

[@user-px4mp6lz3o]

So far

[@JamesWilliams-dg9jw]

God loves ALB.

[@KenGroth-ts6ge]

A person is worth more than their worst moments in life, the state is not.

[@zachcouch8654]

So what????

[@seculair2996]

Remember Kyle said: You are objectively wrong if you like fall and you should be ashamed of yourself..

[@user-mt4gj5us9k]

For all of those who feel so bad about this murderer, think for just a moment about the horror his victim went through. How she was robbed of life in a particularly gruesome fashion by this man. I am sorry he suffered for 22 minutes, but that pales in comparison to his crime.

[@jimbob9407]

Don’t be sorry, you weren’t the murderer

[@edwardmemwah1610]

That's Alabama, y'all! God bless!

[@Cuttuttlefish]

Huh, that's interesting, I commented that this was messed up and mentioned as you did that certain other methods that are much simpler would actually be a whole lot less terrible, but KZbin clearly can't tell the difference between that and advocating for awful things so removed it. Typical corporate censorship: as long as it "sounds" nice, who cares about the content? Just make sure you don't say any naughty words!

[@calebwagner1738]

Carbon monoxide

[@Sh0tgunJust1ce]

Obviously the guy was a horrible person and deserved to be punished, life in prison. But putting someone, even him, through this basically proves they were no better than he was.

[@jimijamesjowitt]

Maybe they were just desperate 30 years ago. A preacher man asked them to do it. A person whom they would have seen as an authority figure. Who knows what the victim could have done. But we do know they did the same thing to him after hold him captive for 30 years. No different than execute a soldier for doing what they told and hit the wrong person.

[@gracerobertson7023]

What about the pastor that hired him to kill his wife? I think that the pastor is worse. The pastor convince these men to kill his wife, did not honor his marriage, had an affair with other women, temp this man to do this heinous crime with money, and also commited sucide becuase the law was coming for him. But we somehow forgot about that evil, demonic man posing as a good and godly man. Ah, well, it's all good because the pastor had a wonderful relationship with Jesus, and we all know that Jesus will forgive and show mercy to the pastor but somehow the man that took 22 minutes to do shouldn't be shown any mercy but scor and hate.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

there is a difference. he didn't allow his victim(s) to say their goodbyes. he didn't allow his victim(s) to see their loved ones and talk to them one last time. he didn't allow his victim(s) to have their last meal, to write their last letter and so on. yet he was allowed to say goodbyes, he was allowed to eat one last time and so on.

[@zachcouch8654]

Who cares?

[@mt-zf6xp]

Holy shit. I know a CO there, and he told me they were preparing for that a few days ago

[@SocietyIsCollapsing]

22 minutes, eh? How much pain did he inflict on his victims?

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

Well, he beat her with a cane, a fireplace set and another item, then stabbed her eight times. So I'm sure the poor woman felt every minute of it. But hey, lets feel bad for Smith, not like Mrs. Sennet matters.

[@frostbite3820]

No cruel (lasted 22 minutes) and unusual punishment (never been done before) Reguardless of the crime and what you think of the death penalty both of his rights were broken. The law means nothing if we don't abide by it

[@charleswomack2166]

I am no fan of the death penalty, but how many people cried when Timothy McVeigh was executed? The answer is not too many. For those of you too young to remember, he was the far right terrorist who bombed the Oklahoma City federal building. He wanted to be executed on live television, because he truly thought of himself as a martyr.

[@OvarosX]

Cruel and very unusual!

[@sojrnrr8368]

This is what they call humane.

[@mak88119]

Why don't they bring back the firing squad? It's quick painless and guaranteed to work every time

[@CosmicMapping]

Holy fucking shit that poor woman, I could not live after experiencing this.

[@melissastipes613]

Real Question: isn't there assisted suicide clinics in Organ? Done with pills ?

[@TrueDarkwolf1]

The thing that people don't know is that is your can be your last thoughts. imagine your last thoughts in pain? you think as you pass on in pain forever. That is hell to me.

[@stefan4159]

Good, now try thinking of what the last thoughts of the woman he murderered were. Perhaps those are more important?

[@JamesWilliams-dg9jw]

oh the poor killer.

[@lengwei4864]

In 1988 he was hired to kill a woman with a gun spent it on drugs so he and accomplice beat and stabbed her to death,could say karma

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

You better not mate. Remember, no matter what anyone does, the Leftists don't believe in the death penalty because its 'immoral'. Its ridiculous for sure, but that's their mindset. Imagine, they wouldn't even put Hitler to death if they could for all the millions of Jews, Slavs, disabled people, Romani, and many others he murdered. They'd just throw him in prison and waste tax dollars feeding and clothing his ass. I'm not even a conservative, I consider myself more liberal, but in regards to this, I disagree with people who see this as a bad thing. He murdered someone in cold blood for cash, never thought twice about it, so why should he get mercy?

[@nathanjones5457]

He'd already done 35 years in prison. Probably time to start looking at parole rather than poisoning tbh.

[@lengwei4864]

@nathanjones5457 maybe not death but has to be close to his own lifespan,maybe parole at 70

[@ubuntuposix]

Criminals..