Alan Wake 2: PS5 Pro Ray Tracing vs PC RTX 4070/3070/2080 Ti

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[@lockitech5263]

There is no way PS5 Pro Ray Tracing can compare to a 4070 in terms of Ray Tracing. Why not have the PS5 Pro just focus on providing a 4K 60 with PSSR, instead of a blurry image with Low RT.

[@provisionalhypothesis]

All these stupid videos are because pc owners feel threatened so they make up stuff to feel better about, like comparing a 700 dollar console to a top of the line 4000 dollar PC build.

[@bariscyilmaz]

@@provisionalhypothesis I don't think you need 4000$ to build a PC with a 4070. More like 1000$. Still quite more expensive, but nowhere near as much you claim it is.

[@ElsweyrDiego]

@@bariscyilmaz the plus is: with a good pc you automatically have a free switch (and maybe a switch 2 when it launches), a free ps3 (and soon a ps4 too!), ps2, wii, gamecube, and all other consoles prior. with ps5 you just have the ps5. AND when the ps6 launches you won't need to buy a new pc, just upgrade your GPU and this will be so much cheaper than a new console!

[@raulgalets]

​@@bariscyilmaz well one you factor in all the rgb, surely thats 3000 dolars more right?

[@DarkKnight-c8k]

Let me correct u F1 ray teaching top tier again gt7 is top tier ray traceing no mans sky 4k 60 ray traceing and hogwarts ray traceing

[@nicodimus2222]

We were well on our way to every game being 4K 60 on console, until someone decided that we needed ray tracing in everything. It's just not worth the hit in performance.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Except it is on capable hardware like rtx 4070 and above or 3080 12gb and above.

[@nicodimus2222]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat No. The PS5 is not equivalent to a 4070 or 3080. Nvidia cards are capable of better raytracing than AMD cards, which is what is in the Pro. Also, DLSS is (right now at least) a superior upscaling technology than PSSR, which is still in its infancy. The GPU the most similar to the one in the PS5 is the 7700 XT. Any person knowledgeable about tech will agree with this.

[@fafski1199]

​​​​​​​​​​​​​It's currently impossible to get a fairly accurate comparison GPU on PC. Although the 7700XT is probably is in the same ballpark on rasterization performance, it'll fall short on RT performance since the Pro uses next gen RDNA 4 RT cores. The Pro also has AI hardware acceleration, where the 7700XT doesn't. Where as say choosing a 4070 is just a bad choice, since it's just an alround better GPU. Although it has AI hardware acceleration, DLSS is just better than PSSR. It also put's out far more rasturization performance, has better quality and higher performance RT and has AI Frame Gen to boot, which the Pro doesn't have. Whatever GPU you pick on PC to compare to the Pro there's always at least a couple of disparities and mismatches here and there, which you have to take into account. Be it rasturization performance, RT quality or performance, AI hardware acceleration, Frame Gen, VRAM amount or memory bandwidth. Personally, I'd say the current best fits are either: 1. A 16GB 4060Ti, if the game is using RT & AI upscaling, but isn't too bandwidth heavy. It might also fall slightly short of the Pro on rasturization performance 2. A 3070 or 3070Ti, if using RT & AI, but only when the game is not using a lot of VRAM. 3. A 7700XT as long as the game is only using rasturization and not heavily using RT & AI upscaling.

[@mitsuhh]

@@nicodimus2222 He never claimed the PS5 is equivalent to a 4070 or 3080

[@colinbrydon7659]

@@nicodimus2222 it’s pretty much identical to a 6800 (non xt), get to,look at every detail pipelines etc, but overclocked to 2.7. Performance above a 6800 but not quite the xt.

[@venzoah]

Alan Wake 2 isn’t poorly optimized. It’s just that some of the rendering techniques being used here (mesh shading) are THAT expensive and things need to be tweaked and/or disabled to run on lower end hardware. That is optimization by definition.

[@johnpsy4129]

When ur game needs upscalers and frame gen to be playable, u fucked up

[@mondodimotori]

@@johnpsy4129 That's why games used to be considered "playable" at 30 FPS. Now yall pretend 60 fps on 500$ boxes from 2020, and these are the results. PS: those 30 FPS weren't even stable. San Andreas sold like hot cakes on PS2 and ran like crap.

[@Rubik43]

Full raster would have been way better on console...

[@technite5360]

it's also a sponsored game using proprietary Nvidia technology. Remedy has sold some of its independence for money... that's why there's no FSR3 or AMD FG or support for AMD RT SDKs, the RT is mainly due to GameWorks and Optix specificities... the PS5 Pro uses an AMD architecture. This is what the video should have stipulated in the first instance, but it falls into the trap of marketing and programmed obsolescence created by Nvidia and Remedy.

[@kyledodson2992]

I just got my first big boy PC like a few weeks ago and I’m still blown away by how much I was missing out. Just a few months ago I was hyped for the pro. Got a big bonus from work, spent about 1500 on a mid-high level pc and I’m floored. Still have my PS5 slim and switch, and will keep playing them but yeah, I feel so late to the game 😂

[@mipha5262]

Tbh.. you have to zoom and / or stay still to see these differences. People here act like there are world differences, but in reality if you are actutally playing... no, it is not a big deal. It is same like PS5 vs PS5 Pro. PC may have a bit better details, but not like in the past. You really have to look for it. I think people need channels like this to justify there choice or to make them feel better about the money they spend. Focus should be more on gameplay and creative ideas... instead of some pixels.

[@ironmaidenmetalgod]

​@@mipha5262na man. A good pc looks and runs better, a lot better

[@christonchev9762]

y 4y ago i had a i5 4460+ GTX 1050 ti and when i was booting up AC Valhalla i was getting mid 40's at low settings and i was scared i won't be able to run it but i was able but didn't liked it and i bought a new PC with a I5 12400F+RTX 3060 12gb and the difference was huge andbtw the GPU was around 550$

[@holls3439]

​​@@mipha5262 have you owned a mid-high level PC in the past decade or so? It still absolutely makes a big difference though the difference has gotten smaller, and ironically it is like you said... you have to have one and play on it to know in reality. Do keep in mind that most big releases are built with consoles as the target, so their graphical fidelity only goes so far. Also YT's compression will take a crisp capture and muddy it up so that differences are even harder to spot, though DF does their best.

[@eclisis5080]

@@mipha5262 no you don't, you own any hardware so you can't see the difference in person, all the technology in OLED TVS can only be used by PCS

[@StruggleBoxing]

The Sony PlayStation 5 Professional. We put the Mid in Mid-gen refresh.

[@spicydeluxe42069]

"jUsT sAy YuR bRoKe" Did I do it right? Am i gaystation enough?

[@urmomma2688]

Mid system for low-mid price.

[@akkibajaj705]

Ur dumb

[@truthdrifter]

@@StruggleBoxing 800EUR 🤣 Sony is worse than Apple, at least they put out top hardware

[@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83]

You do realize, that EVERYTHING depends on optimization from the Devs! LOL Well its obvious you dont! LOL Also this game is a freaking POS! Its probably the dumbest POS that has been made in years! BORING AF!!!

[@Wedge_The_Almighty]

Actually, there is a mod called Control RT on Nexus mode that enables the PS5 Pro’s Ray Tracing, denoising and shadow filtering options. The rest is just matching the console on resolution.

[@Dkmdmdskkskak]

Does this mod exactly add the same ray tracing that is used in the PS5 Pro to the game, or is there a difference?

[@Wedge_The_Almighty]

@ It’s pretty much a spot on replication. Of course, there may be minor differences, but that’s simply because the game of the different platforms are using different graphics APIs. I tested it, works and looks exactly the same as PS5 Pro. And much more performant than the PC’s Low Path Tracing.

[@Dkmdmdskkskak]

@Wedge_The_Almighty Thank you!!!

[@crescentmoon256]

its worse than low setting on pc, what a waste

[@binarycode9893]

It's the engine. Nothing more.

[@brokeashellgaming999]

@@binarycode9893 Its AMD they still cant catch up to NVIDIA when it comes to RT

[@TheMrSatyricon]

​@@brokeashellgaming999 how AMD is related to this? PS 5 Pro have separate RT blocks lol.

[@Ryy86]

@@TheMrSatyricon 'how is amd related to this...' I wonder xD -.-

[@TheMrSatyricon]

@@Ryy86 ray tracing on ps 5 pro is rendered separately from amd chip. And BTW AMD is not that far away from ngreedia cards with comparable prices then most of you think. It is like 10% in most cases.

[@technite5360]

For the people arriving on this video, beware. It's not a Sony, ps5 or ps5 pro problem, it's a developer problem, and unfortunately some youtubers fall for it when they're supposed to be pro. The PS5 uses AMD hardware, alan wake uses Nvidia's own Optix technology because they had a deal to sponsor Nvidia's 4000 series GPUs and technology. What you see as noise you'll see on AMD cards, not because they're incapable of debugging the RT, but because Remedy hasn't used the AMD SDKs (GPUOpen) or even optimized them, which is a form of voluntary obsoclescence on the part of Remedy and Nvidia. Don't be fooled by the video, which chose a game optimized for Nvidia GPUs in order to sell cards. Control has the same denoiser problem on modern AMD GPUs that runs smoothly with RT... but as you may have guessed it's an NVIDIA-sponsored game. AMD has tools with GPUopen for denoisers, but Remedy hasn't used them and only uses GameWorks and Optix, leaving Vulkan to fend for itself. PS: I don't have a PS5 pro and I find the price high but that doesn't stop me from criticizing Nvidia's methods and especially the developers like Remedy who sell their independence to offer a diametrically different graphics experience that deceives consumers and gamers.

[@Crashed131963]

Good grief. Can someone tell me where I can buy a out of the box ready to play RTX 4070/3070/2080 Ti PC for $700? *NEWS FLASH* A $70K V8 Mustang Cobra 500GT can beat a $20k 4 cylinder KIA SUV in a drag race every time and you do not need to pause and squint to spot the leader gap at the finish line .

[@cosmic_gate476]

Mega cope, a PlayStation is not a PC. You can’t install an OS or upgrade internals. So your analogy falls flat on its face. I’m sorry you have to drive a Kia btw 😂 explains why you have a console

[@Crashed131963]

@@cosmic_gate476 Whats that matter in gameplay? The Person leaving leaving "Best Buy" with a $700 Ps5 Pro will play games at a much better performance the a person leaving the same store with a $700PC. So what if the crap $700 PC can also play porn, People have phones for internet stuff .

[@Bluestarferies]

@@Crashed131963iq room temperature but make it Celsius

[@aichan5235]

@@cosmic_gate476news flash for you, the majority of consules players just want a simple and easy experience without fiddling with hardware, firmwares, and BS. We just want to login into the consule and launch into the game without screen of death etc. You talk about upgrading hardware but the majority of it dont give a shit about that because its too "complicated" and defeats the purpose of a consule.

[@deadlyalliance8281]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The base ps5 should aim for solid 1440p experience( at most). (Unless it's an older game and the game can be pushed to 4k 60 with the highest graphical settings). The ps5 pro is entry level 4k gaming. I would not even try to implement Ray tracing on it as it doesn't have the true horse power to do so for 4k 60 fps. Instead, take all that horse power and give us better shadow maps, textures, global illumination lighting, etc. Leave Ray tracing for the ps6 when the horse power will be there! If the ps5 pro can't handle 4k, obviously use pssr to upscale it from 1080p or 2k. But don't go native unless it's an easy to run game. And hold off on the tracing, it's too taxing!(I'd rather have 0 RT than RT and a mediocre looking game)

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

Just gonna say the 2080Ti is still a monster GPU. It has aged VERY well in every way except RT performance and power consumption. DLSS upscaling image quality has improved massively since 2018 and 11gb VRAM is great for 4K. If you kept your 2080Ti you are validated. Turing is good.

[@shawnwatson3944]

Why is the Playstation 5 Pro is being compare to Nvidia 4070? Should the PS Pro be compare to an AMD video card. AMD provide the graphic chips to Sony and Microsoft. Its common knowledge that Nvidia cards handle ray tracing and upscaling (DLSS) technology better.

[@turrican4d599]

Because the PRO has RDNA4 raytracing

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

And that's why it is being compared lmfao, Nvidia is better on the feature set and represents the best PC gaming has to offer. Ofc, if you only want more raw performance go for AMD by all means.

[@killermoon635]

He compared it to performance mode on PS5 pro PS5 pro performance mode does not even use RT at all Quality mode on PS5 pro uses RT but it looks worse than lowest RT setting on PC... SO fair comparison is not even possible.

[@binarycode9893]

​@@turrican4d599But it has very low power draw. When RDNA comes on an actual full GPU. It'll be quite different

[@_Refurbished_]

@@Vengador_Moreno Playing through Callisto. Arguably the best looking game on the Pro. Absolutely bonkers on my 85” Sony. But yes, let us focus on Remedy and their crappy optimization for an entire week!

[@jdez095]

Sony Fanboy here, yea theres a few kinks to work out. We see good results in some games and strange results in others. Im sure DLSS and FSR had a few growing pains as well. Lets see how PSSR improves over the next three years.

[@faraany3k]

In 3 years we will have PS6.

[@DonJuanitito]

@@jdez095 yes, buy the expensive console to play it the right way in 3 (three!!!!!) years

[@Rubik43]

@@faraany3k i think 4, you guys just don't realize that moore's law is dead...

[@technite5360]

You also have to take into account games with Nvidia sponsorship and technologies that can cause problems with AMD's RT architecture (which the PS5 has). Alan Wake uses Optix, and even if Vulkan can handle an RT part, this creates artifacts, so you also have to criticize the devs' willingness to trade in their independence to make a Nvidia-turned game. The problem is that people fall for these deals between Nvidia and the studios, thinking that the machine is sometimes at fault when it's not. I was curious to see the RT capabilities of the PS5 pro, when I saw that it was Alan Wake 2 that was being tested I immediately saw the scam, the problem exists with high-end AMD cards and the FSR3 was not implemented so as not to compete with the DLSS3 and give a lower-end product intentionally to those who do not have a Nvidia card...

[@eliann124]

There is a lot of testers That says using PSSR on GOW reduce the FPS counter from 115 to 90 when PSSR is active... Maybe That is the differences That you are seeing

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Me seeing the 3070 still beating the Pro by 5fps: I SEE THIS AS AN ABSOLUTE WIN! 😂

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

Trash optimization effort as the devs could definitely push medium pc quality Ray tracing with 60fps on PS5 Pro if they actually cared enough to spend the time and resources to optimize, and anytime it’s crap level like this at 30fps it’s on the devs not the hardware which is more than capable with proper optimization. Base PS5 already has games using Ray tracing with high resolution and 60fps and that includes games like metro exodus enhanced which uses all Ray tracing including global illumination lighting while running rock solid 60fps with dynamic 4k resolution, and there’s many others on Base PS5 such as all the insomniac games that run 60fps and even faster with Ray tracing Vrr performance modes. The devs have plenty of performance to work with if only they’d start optimizing like they did in the past while taking full advantage of the hardware.

[@PlutonianPrince]

The problem is those games aren't using Mesh shaders, Lumen etc... yet and were developed for Xbox One and PS4.

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

@ they use hardware Ray tracing including metro exodus which is more demanding than software based lumen

[@southsidetherealest2860]

Because optimizing means turning the graphics down here and there it cutbacks like ps2 did to run splinter cell

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

@ everybody knows that the gaming industry has taken a massive step backwards with so many half assed low resolution visuals and piss poor optimization this generation. We went from razor sharp Native 4k / 1800p checkerboard visuals last generation with the XboxOneX & PS4 pro and then all the sudden devs started pushing 1080p and even 720p type blurry resolutions on New hardware that’s significantly more powerful than last gen. Some devs still optimize such as insomniac first party games on PS5 which have always had sharp visuals and awesome performance on PS5 since the start of the generation but unfortunately most third party devs aren’t pushing max optimization anymore.

[@InstantCasette]

1:35 I can see you're demonstrating the PSSR here.

[@kobileo]

CPU in the pro is not cutting the mustard

[@paulerxx]

It's basically a 3800x underclocked with less cache

[@sunnyssundries]

@@paulerxx …But relieved from certain taxing operations, like file decompression.

[@60weHoodsta]

I don't think it was supposed to

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

GPU

[@sunnyssundries]

@ APU

[@djpquickplays1244]

Alex, your 2080ti has a hotspot issue and needs repasting.

[@The_Vizo]

Basically the Devs half assed the ps5 pro patches as usual

[@CuttinInIdaho]

But muh Pro has 16TFLOPS with RT at 4k60... Pro quality only 850 with a drive and a stand. Why wouldn't someone buy a used 4070 and build a PC around it for less and get more?

[@urmomma2688]

Because the pro costs 700. A used one will be like 550-600. You may build a used 4070 system for that price in 7 years 👍

[@CuttinInIdaho]

@ nope…I have seen several sell for 400 on the largest hardware swap forum

[@urmomma2688]

@@CuttinInIdaho i see. So you're left with 150-200 for: a cpu for 30 dollars, a mobo for 50, ram for 20, a mechanical drive, a case and a psu that will combust at any moment. Enjoy that 4th gen i3 gaming i guess.

[@Rog-m4w]

Why stop at drive and stand? If you're gonna be biased, just wear it on your sleeve and add some custom covers, an additional elite controller and an extra 2tb drive. Then you have a much easier system to beat for the money so you feel better about your piece of plastic of choice

[@MB-dq2gz]

​@@urmomma2688first of all the used PS Pro doesn't exist it's a new product and if it was used right now you would probably take $50 off the top because it's a new product... That said the man has around $350 bucks. He can go to microcenter grab a refurbished dell optiplex 7070 with 32gb of ram, 1tb SSD, Intel i7 8700 which was a good gaming processor for its time for the lofty price of $329 dollars. Alternatively snag a $300 AMD ryzen 5 7609x 16gb and motherboard combo and look for a decent case under $100.

[@GD-om1mw]

Building a PC with an RTX 4070 can cost between $1,400 and $1,600, depending on the exact components you choose. Here’s a breakdown based on current market pricing: • GPU (RTX 4070): Around $550-$600. • CPU: Options like the Intel Core i5-14600K cost about $250-$340. AMD alternatives like the Ryzen 5 7600 are slightly cheaper, at around $220-$270. • Motherboard: A mid-range option (DDR5-compatible) costs $150-$200. • RAM: 32GB DDR5 memory is about $85-$100. • Storage: A 1TB NVMe SSD can be found for $50-$70. • Case: Good airflow cases like Lian Li or Montech models are around $80-$100. • Power Supply: A 650W or 750W Gold-rated PSU is approximately $80. • Cooling: Air coolers are $30-$60, while AIO liquid coolers may add $80-$120. • Operating System: Windows 11 (Home) costs $120-$140 if bought separately. For a build optimized for 1440p gaming with future-proofing for 4K, this setup would provide excellent performance. Building it yourself saves some cost compared to prebuilt options, which usually start at $1,800 for similar specs   .

[@CrashBashL]

If the PC is optimized for 1440p, how can you say in the same sentence that it's future proof for 4K?! Are you mentally challe%^©°?

[@brokeashellgaming999]

@GD-om1mw You can save so much money by just going with a 12400f or an AMD 5600x both are going to be faster than what's in the pro.

[@CrashBashL]

@@brokeashellgaming999 And why would a sane person build a PC just to match PS5 Pro's performance? Just to change it in the next 2 years?! Use your brain more.

[@CrashBashL]

@@GD-om1mw Saying that the PC is optimized for 1440p but that it's 4K future proof in the same sentence is showing that you have no business in the PC world. Exit, stage left.

[@zfacersane272]

Nobody buys windows for $120

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Keen to see if the developers patch this.

[@amemodeste]

Nvidia is a leader in the tech world, especially in artificial intelligence, generating significant profit margins. Nvidia reports $30 billion in revenue compared to $584 million for the PlayStation division, making it clear that very few companies globally can compete at this level. That said, I'm excited for Ghost of Yotei on the PS5 Pro-when it releases, comparisons won't even be relevant!

[@franklehmann3371]

On my PC I dont have Reflexions in the puddles on RT low. Only on Pathtracing low.

[@leongafipu23]

DF still trying to sell us this expensive hardware (expensive un terms of worthness)

[@cosmic_gate476]

They are glorified salesmen

[@leongafipu23]

@cosmic_gate476 I see. Thought they were more objective but where money goes seems DF goes too

[@crazyfreak6408]

Good they made a video using other GPU's they should've used as RX6800 XT or RX7600 XT a cheaper GPU that resembles the PS5 Pro

[@cosmic_gate476]

AMDs current generation sucks ass at RT so no point comparing, this is supposed to be a “pro” device remember? 😂

[@derschnuff8819]

That noise and shimmering is so disturbing and a clear disadvantage compared to DLSS. The entire point of upscaling and making it lookalike a higer resolution is...well...to have all the benefits of that higher resolution, right? So shimmering, aliasing, flickering noise has to go. PSSR is not close to DLSS, not at all if i look at those comparisions. The worst thing is, you cannot turn them off. If a developer implemented PSSR in a bad way, you got to take the punch...or get a PS5 standard as backup.

[@freshprinz9829]

Another Alan Wake 2 video how about cover a game like Callisto protocol that actually looks great on the ps5 pro smh

[@dbsasuke]

That game sucks. No one plays that.

[@captainshiner42]

Because they don't ONLY cover the games YOU like, Einstein. 🤣

[@imaginalex5850]

@@dbsasuke alan wake 2 kinda sucks too tbh

[@ghoulieme]

Is ray tracing on ps5 pro really worth it considering how distracting these effects are?

[@USA92]

No. And wouldn’t it be nice if this fixation with an overpriced most can’t afford product could stop for awhile?

[@ironmaidenmetalgod]

Ray tracing is rarely worth it

[@christonchev9762]

well i do think PS should 1st make the games 60 fps steady and then think about RT and btw Consoles do not use full RT like PC's cause that will kill the system

[@roberttitchener1821]

@@christonchev9762 not many pc use Ray tracing to its full extent unless you've got a 4090 ect. The ps pro is a decent gaming pc for £700 you couldn't build a pc to that spec

[@defnotatroll]

@@roberttitchener1821 BUT you pay to play online. That PS plus money could instead go into a better PC

[@LatinLegacyNY]

PC easily clears. This will be the case for 99% of games on both platforms. Only those extremely well optimized first party games on the PS5 Pro will be able to stand toe to toe compared to the PC port.

[@60weHoodsta]

@@LatinLegacyNY So it's a optimization issue. Thanks for the clarification 😊

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@60weHoodsta Yeah turns out bad consoles are hard to optimize for oh and remember how console dudes say PC is badly optimized ?

[@alumlovescake]

Nah its less to do with well optimised games for PS5 doing well in a comparison and more to do with poorly optimised PC games doing poorly in on a comparsion

[@johnpsy4129]

Imao "99% of games", really ? Is that the case for monster hunter wilds ? Or Dragons dogma or elden ring ? Or the tons of games that run like crap and stutter a lot ? And then u call others delusional fanboys

[@RaidouBrabo]

​@@johnpsy4129yes, in PS its run in low settings.

[@deltaeternum9270]

This is the game that strayed me away from the Pro. I was thinking about it but knowing how good RT is on PC by comparison makes the console counterpart laughable, particularly knowing it’s the more premium SKU.

[@水春-e6s]

The performance of the PS5 Pro was much lower than expected. Before its release, it was expected to have the same performance as a more expensive PC, but in reality, the performance of the PS5 Pro was the same as a PC of the same price as the Pro. The Pro also has many image quality problems, including noise. There are many problems that need to be solved.

[@imaginalex5850]

it's not, my theory is that they just attached an ai upscaling tech to the initial apu and call it a day, by upscaling half and sometimes 1/3 res ray tracing and upscaling harder from even lower rest into 2K and 4K to safe on performance. Methinks they just use 2 upscaling gimmicks ontop of each other and sometimes framegen in other resolution modes. those are all bandaids around a gpu that is barely the equivalent of an rtx 3060 / rx 6700 xt

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Consoles will never give you "the more expensive PC" settings. Unless it was a more expensive PC from 5 years ago. This thing is basically on par with an rtx 3060 ti

[@TheDrunkenPL]

I like those chapters, The Gateway, Ape Escape, SOCOM. Nice.

[@cortbelmont]

PS5 Pro promised a lot and now is showing it's not that great. RT is even worse, PSSR has lots of issues and the boost mode falls short... funny thing, we knew that before it even came out, I think developers are being pushed to adjust settings to fulfill certain parameters demanded by sony and that's causing PS5 Pro to choke, chewing more than it can swallow

[@kpsk8031]

Will there be an Alan Wake 2 video every day until this game has reached the financial break even point?

[@mandrews6282]

We can only hope. Lol. Remedy deserves more love.

[@Eepy-Rose]

it hasn't broken even? that's sad

[@leongafipu23]

@@kpsk8031 imagine you are Remedy and they (Sony) gives you a PS5PRO just to tell you have to add Ray Tracing and a lot of functions on a console that isnt a big boost. Magic? Maybe, but they press you with all his paid channels on KZbin

[@jeevejavari8461]

Not that steam is the end all be all, but i do feel a simultaneous launch on steam with the other platforms would have helped them reach that break even point long ago​ @Eepy-Rose

[@Eepy-Rose]

@@jeevejavari8461 Yeah that's true. I myself am kinda waiting to see if it ever comes to steam

[@SmoothSportsGaming]

For a console PS5 Pro is good overall, regardless of it's shortcomings..... My unique reason for not wanting a Pro is the reliance on VRR to get the best performance. I have a LG C3 so running that feature is no problem, however..... If you run VRR....all modern TV's will disable all extra features on the TV that make it dynamic. Not being able to use the TV's interpolation/frame gen, which is amazing on the C3 and has no artifacts or noticeable input lag is a deal breaker. On my PC i can lock it to 60fps using Riva Tuner (amazing) and Vsync if the game has tearing. It works perfect and I'm still be able to use all the amazing picture settings and frame gen from the TV

[@danloki78]

Don't need vrr if the pro performance settings hits 60 constantly.

[@danloki78]

Which they should be doing.

[@SmoothSportsGaming]

@@danloki78 More chances of tearing though. Also, with modern games (UE especially) that's no guarantee for 60fps. It's been shown already where games are fluctuating quite often. It's mainly the games that rely on the CPU and since it's the bottleneck it's recommended to turn on VRR. I've seen a lot of PS5 Pro owners admit that VRR is the console's saving grace. With modern games relying on CPU performance as well it sounds kinda necessary.

[@danloki78]

@@SmoothSportsGaming I don't have vrr and I'm not fussed for it yet either. I mean games when performing well don't tear or hitch. That's not all games however. But as more games are introducing 40fos mode on quality mode, I may be tempted down the line. Maybe not oled but deffo a 120 vrr set.

[@martinflores7354]

👌

[@yurpcrusher123]

Whats a 4070? How much that cost?

[@cosmic_gate476]

Like 400 dollars, maybe less on Christmas when the 5090 is announced

[@MTNRanger]

AW2 is now $35 on the Epic Store. I may pick up the PC version over my PS5 Pro at this point. My 3080 Ti is probably alright for this.

[@rishabhthakur8112]

why did u even buy a ps5 pro if u have rtx 3080ti pc.. us plebians be jelous.. u flex too much

[@MTNRanger]

@@rishabhthakur8112 I always upgrade to the latest console. I also gave my old PS5 to my son. A flex would be if I had a 4090!

[@rahulpandey9472]

I have 3080ti, 1620p dlss quality and high preset with few on ultra for a locked 60 is the best you can do. If you want to play with ray tracing even 1440p dlss balanced won't get you a rock solid 60 fps but I suggest you to use lossless scaling frame generation and play at 1440p dlss quality, that's the best way to play it on RTX 3080ti or use DLSS to fsr mod for getting fsr frame generation.

[@MTNRanger]

@@rahulpandey9472 Thanks for the settings. I also am using a 1440p display so that's good to know. I'm running an Intel i9-13900K with 64GB.

[@rahulpandey9472]

@@MTNRanger I running it on 5800x 3d but this game isn't cpu intensive at all so no issues there.

[@RAHIEM69D]

Digital Foundry are just PlayStation haters! Wait until the PS5 Pro Plus comes out in two months for $999.99, it'll out the RTX 4060 super to shame! 💯😄

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Bro, there is TOO MUCH truth in this comment 😂

[@dannyhallsworth6580]

We’ve had Ray Tracing since 2018 and it still feels like a beta test technology after 6 years…….6 years for goodness sake. It’s still so niche of a technology surely that means the mass market doesn’t want it. People saying it’s great on a 3080ti or 4070. Great less than 1% of the overall market have those class of GPU’s 🤦‍♂️. Just give us games with the well thought out baked lighting and good Screen Space reflections and leave us to our 4k60. Or at least give us the option to drop RT all together in favour of performance. I haven’t got time to stand around looking at reflections in a puddle when I’m engrossed in actually playing a game.

[@那人冷靜一點]

@@dannyhallsworth6580 there are 10+% of the people on steam that has a 3080/4070 or better gpu, you're just broke, get a job

[@mitsuhh]

@@那人冷靜一點 That's a lie

[@mitsuhh]

@@那人冷靜一點 Also people with jobs have better things to do with money than buy a silly computer that will become outdated.

[@chris42069]

You can get a 3080ti used for half the price of a PS5 Pro!

[@那人冷靜一點]

@@mitsuhh search steam hardware yourself 😂 People with a job will buy a good computer for gaming, not a low end console 🤣

[@kylelochner5686]

@11:22 you might want to replace the thermal paste on your 2080 ti. Chances are its thermal throttling

[@turrican4d599]

Chances are it's jsut to weak to run Alan Wake 2 properly.

[@kylelochner5686]

@@turrican4d599 You dont know what you're talking about. If it's roughly on par with a 3070 in general how is it too weak, If gous start fast but get weaker as time goes it called "thermal throttling". Do your research please

[@southsidetherealest2860]

@@turrican4d599But Series S isn’t?2080 Ti can handle that and more

[@senorsnipey1595]

Clearly PSSR needs more work and developers need more time to figure it out.

[@EdoXTensei]

So AMD finally was able to catch with Nvidia RT ! 2080Ti.. so impressive 🙈

[@urmomma2688]

Amd has gpus on par with the 4080, at least in rasterisation, and the 3090 in rt. The one on the ps5 pro is a power efficient, cost effective low-midrange option

[@majicalpandatech]

I was thinking the same thing for the power draw what the ps5 pro is doing is super impressive. Even the efficient gpus like 4060 ti are pulling 2/3 the power and that’s only the gpu.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@urmomma2688 LMFAO no AMD GPU is matching 3090 in RT.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@majicalpandatech And who cares about power efficiency in a home console powered by wall ? Like why does it matter ?If you want portability, there are laptops out there with more performance and better efficiency than PS5 pro.

[@urmomma2688]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat ah yes. Its actually between the 3080ti and the 3090. My point has been destroyed nooooo /s

[@user.asleep]

At this rate, Sony will drop the price of their professional console to 550 max

[@kevinkev1530]

This is a pointless waste of time!!! Filler episodes 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Faramsisimo]

I dont understand people who think "one side is winning" my pc cost me like 3000 usd, my 4090 was about 1300 usd alone. It clearly and easily beats the PS5 pro, but i had to use frame gen though for 4k, DLLS quality Ray tracing ultra and path tracing.... But I still bought a PS5 and I like what they are doing for some titles... Alan Wake 2.. I dunno seems to hard to run. But FF7 rebirth looks amazing :) they are both completely different platforms

[@daaniii14]

Why is Oliemack always wearing the same clothes?

[@Moi-m1z]

On PC, rt low and dlss balanced look better than ps5 pro in quality ...

[@Mr_CopaceticGamer]

I absolutely love you guys at digital foundry 💯% You guys do a outstanding, job but at this point we’re beating on dead horse 😂😅

[@alfredoalejandro87]

Remember a few weeks ago, I got lynched by the Sony Pony community for saying that PSSR will not be as good as DLSS. Well have a look at the Silent Hill 2 video. Now, remember a few weeks ago PS fanboys saying 'PS5 Pro will be like a 4070/4080 or even 4090'. Well here ya go. It's much worse, it looks bad its a glorified mid end PC without the ability to let you do anything but game. So bad. Here they come. Wait for the Ponys..

[@martinflores7354]

lol. Totally Agree

[@9190onin]

@@alfredoalejandro87 you got ponies now trying to rewrite history and say no one said that it would out perform a 4090. They took the 4070 claim because DF said it could be around a downclocked 4070. They praised DF for that now they are trying to say DF doesn’t post anything positive about the Sony.

[@turrican4d599]

PSSR is still in development

[@urmomma2688]

You didn't get lynched. There may have been 2 people who actually thought pssr would be better than dlss. Comparing that to a lynching is a joke

[@9190onin]

@@turrican4d599 they could have just added it to the base and work off of that. To charge a premium for something that is still in development is kind of scummy.

[@erminaFannin]

The trade offs are good value for the pro.

[@Fred_Erasmus]

From counting pixels to counting trees in puddle reflections. DF sounds about as much fun working for than being a pharmacist.

[@Horrorfreak86]

A 4070 is much better than Sonys 8k machine XD

[@trickshotgamingtrickshotgaming]

How much is a 4070?

[@XGN05]

@@trickshotgamingtrickshotgaming Cope more poor man.

[@truthdrifter]

@@Horrorfreak86 8k 120fps no compromises. And with Path Tracing.

[@steve_ire321]

Yeah, a 4070 Super shits on it.

[@Horrorfreak86]

@@Vengador_Moreno 😂

[@ctestdummy83]

Who is this video for? It just makes people who paid 800 bucks for a really nice console feel terrible. Again, leave it to DF to make gamers feel like crap.

[@DonJuanitito]

You talk like it was not expected to be a bad investment...

[@ctestdummy83]

@DonJuanitito there are a ton of games that this console makes look great and DF wants to ignore. I hope you enjoy watching 10 more videos on Alan Wake and Jedi survivor and ill be sitting here drooling over Resident Evil 4 and Village, The Crew Motorfest, Lords of the Fallen and The Calisto Protocol just to name a few.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

The video points out how Sony just keeps on lying.. at one point, there were rumors stating the pro would trump an rtx3080 😂, welcome back to reality where the ps5 pro trade blows with a 3060ti

[@ctestdummy83]

@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 so a rumor makes Sony liars? Wild...

[@mitsuhh]

@@ctestdummy83 He's not very bright

[@aichan5235]

i could care less about raytracing. I just care about my fps being 60+ and the story of the game. thats the only reason i got the ps5 pro, only for the performance boost on the gpu.

[@berdik97]

would be interesting to see comparison with amd cards like use 7900xtx and see comparison pssr vs fsr 3

[@GIO77ification]

Yeah I think this would make much better comparison. But maybe since most people don’t even use AMd cards it’s like what’s the point?

[@MaxIronsThird]

PS5Pro RT performance is close to the 7800XT, with raster similar to to 6750XT, so it's basically a 4060Ti.

[@berdik97]

@@GIO77ification quality of image like on almost same architecture it also would be better to see what amd achieved with no ai upscale against nvidia' dlss and new sony' pssr

[@berdik97]

@@MaxIronsThird you know even on my 7800xt with samsung memory alan wake 2 looks prettier

[@viniqf]

@@berdik97 FSR3 in this title and in many titles is better than PSSR. It's nowhere close to DLSS though. That being said, the XTX obviously crushes a PS5 Pro in RT.

[@johnc8327]

I'll go ahead and stick with my PC, i don't care if it costs more.

[@cheporestrepo]

Where are the sony fanboyyyysssss Come y’all💀💀😂

[@1stoptech]

Looks like your here supporting Sony info 😂 Thats the definition of a fanboy. More views More money, More Sony exposure 😊 More Ad revenue , More More More

[@pedroribas1815]

do you hear what he said? He said only on this title, there are many others where the Pro do much better... ever heard the word, optimization? How old are you? 9?

[@1stoptech]

@pedroribas1815 Hes 7 Lol Dont feed the trolls let them starve

[@gabriel__2640]

i'm at your mother

[@chadwolf3840]

I was hoping it’d match the 4070 at least. I guess not.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Not even matching the 3070.

[@SunilR25]

Its always raining on the Pro☔😢

[@Marcus_K]

DF has recently been focused on the games that have issues like AW2, Silent Hill 2 and Jedi Survivor, but lots of games have impressive PS5 Pro upgrades like FF7 Rebirth, F1 24, Last of Us 2, Spider-Man 2, Crew Motorsport and Ratchet Rift Apart.

[@StreetGrandTour]

Quality mode is broken on Alan Wake. Pssr with Ray tracing looks way better

[@cheporestrepo]

Sony fanboys are just so incoherent and incongruent😭💀 They will even hate on me believing im an XBOT, but i have an i9 9900 and 4080😭💀 weebs

[@zenvultra]

The console war is supposed to be between consoles, if you’re on PC master race and have a high end pc, why are you wasting time complaining about a console?

[@southsidetherealest2860]

@@zenvultraThe console war what console war?You mean fanboy war!

[@cosmic_gate476]

A Pleb Station is a pleb station no matter how “pro” they make it sound.

[@brotherdarknessgaming4479]

One thing to make note of is that digital foundry will almost never upload anything that will make ps5 look good. They are a pc centric channel, and their parent company is pc centric. Its not in their best interest to take you out of the pc economy and not on to ps. Like why not compare spidermans raytracing on ps5 to pc. Because the difference isnt as huge i wager.

[@sphericalred]

DF coverage of PS5 and Xbox Series S|X were both very positive against PC at launch in 2020.

[@harissonbond7499]

Nah. You might see a little bit of PC biased from Alex but John is also very biased towards consoles so it evens out.

[@JoeWayne84]

Just maybe you are the one that is biased… maybe do a little introspection… also Spider-Man games are made as PS5 exclusives so it isn’t shocking it has basically zero raytracing going on … compared to games made for PC,Xbox, and Sony … Digital foundry is giving the PS5 pro more love than they should honestly it’s embarrassing it can’t use PSSR and hit 4k60 even at extremely low settings it’s basically as strong as a 2080ti hahaha that card is 6 years old that’s insane for $700 today you could build a 3080 Pc for $800 if you know how to shop a little bit especially in this market it’s best time ever to build a PC with last gen hardware and you will have a PS6 level performance 2 years before PS6 is even announced

[@Oldfartog]

So your saying that they shouldn't compare image quality on different systems. I have a regular Ps5 and a amazing pc. I play some games on PC and some on Ps5. I love my Ps5 but I didn't upgrade to a Ps5 pro mainly because it's a bullshit upgrade. Ps5 players were sold a dream and it's nonsense. The cpu is too slow

[@brotherdarknessgaming4479]

@@JoeWayne84 im not biased, is digital foundry not a pc centric channel? Is their parent and sibling companies not pc centric? Is that not having a vested interest of ppl staying or going to pc? Spiderman has raytracing? And i think it would have been a better comparison because obviously puts more work into its games.

[@CrashBashL]

Alex, are you really trying yo make people belive that the PS5 Pro is weaker than an RTX 2080 TI ?! When you have visuals like Spiderman 2 with top noch Raytracing on that and its open world ?! Or Callisto Protocol with 4K/60FPS/RT or 8K/RT/30FPS ?!

[@brokeashellgaming999]

spiderman 2 is not on pc yet and anyways sony doesn't like too scale games beyond their console ports, no one cares about Calisto protocol game was ass when released, Alan wake 2 like it or not has the best RT implementation so far.

[@CrashBashL]

@@brokeashellgaming999 It has the worst RT implementation on the PS5 Pro, and it's not the platform's fault since there are games out there that look WAY better than AW2 on the PS5 Pro with way better RT implementation. So it CANNOT be the console's fault. Not that AW2 runs good on the PC. It's the worst optimized game this generation after Black Myth Wukong. It doesn't matter if Callisto Protocol is popular or not. I am simply talking about how the F it looks and runs and the Pro. Such a stupid logic you have. "The game is not popular so it doesn't matter how it looks and tuns vs AW2" It perfectly matter in this context cause it's the main subject. By your logic we should also discard AW2 because it sold so poorly that Remrdy barely got 55% of their AW2 production $$$ back. It will never break even. Not to mention making a profit. AW2 should NOT be a reference point on how games should look and/or run on any console.because that game is pure garbage when it comes to optimization.

[@brokeashellgaming999]

@CrashBashL What I meant is the optimization for calisto protocal was trash. On PC Alan wake 2 is a tech showcase, It has RT that is top of the line. Consoles haven't been able to match it, so it makes sense that DF would want to see if the pro was able to bridge that gap.

[@brokeashellgaming999]

@CrashBashL Want to add that as far as optimization goes, I played through Alan wake 2 on ultra settings with path tracing enabled, and it was a very smooth experience, and it is the best looking game I've ever played.

[@zfacersane272]

@@CrashBashL2080Ti can easily to do that, compare the ps5 pro with the 2080Ti on the same exact console settings and the 2080Ti will play on higher fps

[@Goblue734]

Hmmmm not another case of everybody hyping up a console to be the most amazing PC like powerful machine that falls short of even mid range GPUs on PC. I feel like I’ve seen this before.😂

[@kiuju2k]

Not worth it the 700

[@kiuju2k]

@ That too. 500 was expensive already.

[@aichan5235]

well lets see here. PSSR is a new technology, while dlss has been out since 2019, so if you do the math thats 5 years. nvidia had 5 years to tweak their AI upscaler. Do you think when dlss when it came out, it didnt have problems? This is common sense. Bunch of ignorant people on the internet, not surprised.

[@anthonyrizzo9043]

I kinda feel like if your going to severly limit ray tracing, you are better off not using it, and using better rasterized effects, performance should be way higher, and it might even look better. If your cutting corners with ray tracing like only using it on reflections and cutting down the bvh, its not really correct ray tracing.

[@86ramc]

Zero point in buying a ps5 pro

[@wayneg85]

All the PC fanboys on this post triggered by the Pro is hilarious, if your PC was so and the Pro was so inferior you'd not bother wasting your time crying about the inferior product lol, Pro has the PC/Xbox fanboys triggered

[@c523jw7]

Nice try. You got ripped off your console can't handle low pc settings and in 4 out 50 games (😂 Hilarious you paid for 50 games so idiotic) it runs worse than the base console 😂.

[@XGN05]

They are crying from laughing so much.

[@wayneg85]

@@c523jw7 Yet Calisto is running 4k @60 and 8k at 30 🤔 imagine trying to act high and mighty over a console with PC Master ghey 💩 I've got nearly 200 games on Steam you fool you're just a salty fanboy

[@wayneg85]

@@XGN05 Laughing that much they have to spam every Pro post with comments over a console they're not bothered about apparently, makes perfect sense that

[@RaidouBrabo]

Cry more.

[@JadigertheReal]

A 4070 can run Alan Wake 2 with pathtraching... And the 5000 Series is on the corner, how can sony charge 800 euros for this?

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

It's called "cashing in on outdated tech before the new stuff arrives"

[@lopetegui5164]

I love my ps5 pro. Sell your older ps5 version. If you have a LG C3, G4 oled version are amazing .Samsung oled also. Im really enjoying it

[@MrAkatosh]

Who does everyone cry and argue here lmao I have both I still game on the pro 90% of the time

[@_Refurbished_]

I’m honestly getting sick of digital foundry covering this. It’s misleading people into thinking that the pro is offering a hampered experience. Alan wake 2 is a terribly optimized game. Not only is it the least visually impressive pro game, It also runs very poorly. It’s an anomaly, just like the also poorly optimized Jedi survivor. We should place blame on the developer and not the console. Plenty of pro patch games look and run fantastically with all the bells and whistles. Sony can’t fix shotty developing the same way an overpriced $2000 PC can.

[@SergioGT00]

Yeah , RE4 Is very good optimized, but Capcom devs aré pros , not like the creators of Alan wake

[@c523jw7]

Also is 2000 pc overpriced compared to a console that can't run low pc rt settings? You paid almost double for this console for 50 games and 4 of which are worse than the base...you got ripped off really bad dude.

[@_Refurbished_]

@@c523jw7 Interesting because most of my games in my PS5 library looks significantly better not just the pro enhanced ones. I sold my PS5 for $300 and paid $400 for the upgrade. I most certainly did not get ripped off. It’s about the same money I used to pay when upgrading my GPU on my old rigs and is giving the similar performance boost. How can the pro be a ripoff if you can’t build a PC for the same price with similar performance? Again, low ray tracing on a terribly optimized game. Let’s pull out Horizon and see how that looks, buddy.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

I think it's time to acknowledge that Sony played their fans again. They do this every time with hardware. It's time to accept that Sony lie through their teeth about hardware performance, they always do.

[@c523jw7]

@@_Refurbished_ becuase you got really 50 games properly updated and 4 are worse. Rdr2 is still 30. It's wild to upgrade 4 gpus and get the same performance on some games...this is what you did. You don't realize your getting done because your in console headspace. Sony and xbox want you this way cus you don't even realize your getting done. You pay for online and don't even care.

[@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83]

ALAN GO TO SLEEP...SO WE NEVER HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS POS EVER...AGAIN!! LOL

[@vampiszon6620]

We need more Alan Wake 2 videos

[@TheRedRaven_]

Feel the power of that Zen 2 processor, it's totally radical dude!

[@cartel937]

They need to tell people how much you will be paying building a pc with 4070 and I guarantee that is cost way more then $700. We are comparing a $2000 pc build to $700 console is mind blowing lol

[@jenscee7679]

It’s honestly like saying my Ferrari is faster than your Ford Focus.

[@ironmaidenmetalgod]

More like 1400

[@hanspennyloaf335]

​@@ironmaidenmetalgodstill twice the price for less than twice the performance

[@theSaminator1]

You can find prebuilts on sale for $1200 with the regular 4070 and you can do it yourself for $1000. Considering you need PS+ for 3 years minimum to be online ,that actually almost completely evens out the cost if you DIY. If you buy prebuilt then you are just paying the extra %20 cost for %20% more performance.

[@cartel937]

@@theSaminator1really can’t trust pre builds because 9/10 you are being over charged for the bare minimum. It’s always cheaper to build it yourself but the average person wouldn’t even know where to start when trying to build one

[@albinoitj]

Who cares about this game? It's so bad it hasn't even broken even after 1 year. Who cares about reflection of a game no one plays?

[@RaidouBrabo]

Now this IS the excuse? 😂😂😂

[@jemandetwas1]

It's an Epic Store exclusive outside of mainstream appeal that obviously cost a whole lot to develop and has really high hardware requirements. The potential amount of costumers is just really low, this has nothing to do with the games quality. Equating game sales to quality is stupid in any situation, even more so in situations like this where the odds are stacked against the game

[@albinoitj]

@ ok. Let's waste our times with Concord, skull and bones, unknown 9, etc. All the flops nobody plays just to test "reflections". They should make videos on games people are playing even if they have worst "reflections". Most gamers would rather see details of physics improvements in certain new games than "reflection", dlss, fsr, etc on Alan wake 2.

[@JohnnyBg2905]

...all this for game that didn't sell enough to cover its expenses. I personally liked it, but still too much fuss about Alan Wake 2.

[@user-iq334]

I don't get coverage for this boring game!

[@NumberJuancho]

The RT is the same as the RX 6800

[@MaxIronsThird]

4060Ti + 3600X for $700 is insane.

[@steve_ire321]

Not really.

[@NeoMoonSevin]

PS5pro version looks rubbish compared to Microsoft PC and Xbox Series I thought ponies said PS5pro got pssr and all this other bs doesn't look like it at all

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.

[@SagaBKSFolkearth]

What a joke ps5 pro quality mode is everything you want except quality... this is crap

[@danloki78]

RT is the most overrated thing in the last 5 years.

[@c523jw7]

Yeah if your on a ps5 pro..totally over rated.

[@eslamarida]

Amd can't do rt they should focus on increasing the resolution

[@SergioGT00]

😂😂😂

[@steve_ire321]

The more videos that come out about this "Pro" the more of a scam it seems to be. Absolutely pointless machine. They should put the money into the PS5 and actually getting games out for that thing, but nope. This is Sony we are talking about here. They also like to drop 400 million on shit GAAS games that have the shelf life of a week old carton of milk when they could have put that money into, oh, I dunno, a few big name VR games or modes for current or older games? You know, things that certain gamers actually like.

[@SagaBKSFolkearth]

I agree Sony should more worry about having true new gen games and that are optimized and not rushed

[@KrystianHurricane]

People are really overreacting about this. It’s $700 and for those who saying over and over again that it’s way more with stand and disc drive. Shut the fuck up guys, you don’t need any of these. It’s standing vertically without stand very good and also most gamers don’t use discs anymore. Another I will say is that you can’t build pc that is more powerful than that console so please, just play on what you have and be happy. DF is just trying to make views for money so they are making stupid comparisons to bring haters here. You don’t want this, don’t buy it.

[@southsidetherealest2860]

Whoa now Sony Defense Force we didn’t give you permission to fire hold your horses 🐴🐎🐪🎠🏇

[@KrystianHurricane]

@ I am just trying to say that Pc gamers spend way more money for pc and they will tell others to not spend $700 for console. That’s crazy, and also comparing $700 console to $550 graphic card. There’s no sense in that at all.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Well, when Playstation fanboy hype combines with sonys lies, it's nice to see DF debunking the "console that'll squash an RTX 3080"

[@umaryusha5792]

quiet clown

[@KrystianHurricane]

@@umaryusha5792 Only clown here is you😉 When GTA 6 will release, clowns like you who hates this now, will go and buy PS5 pro then.

[@eugkra33]

As expected, RDNA4 ray tracing is disappointing once again.

[@mrse7engd834]

ps5 pro graphics looks like crap when compare to pc graphics

[@Dbzlatino27]

Wait but remedy has uploaded some patch focused for the ps5 pro for this game or is running on the same version???

[@narniaphuket]

More interested in the Xbox Series XY

[@matjakobs8612]

Quality mode?? Wgaf

[@exotikification]

ok, so the PS5 Pro Quality Mode is still ugly and show nothing more than the LOW RT PC LOL. WHAT A 800$ SCAM 😂. I made some tests on an a 2017 GPU GTX 1660 Super, it displays the lights and shadows better with ambient occlusion. The RT on console is just marketing because you have a shitty AMD Zen 2 processor inside. Stop comparing a 2019 console with 2024 PC GPu, that's a nonsense. The PS6 will be far more powerful with Zen4 or 5 and will help the AI graphics capabilities of the consoles. Trust me.

[@smokegames1179]

My 4070 super destroys the xbox

[@mrdol]

the more coverage I watch on the PS5 Pro I feel like Sony really shouldn't have made it at all. Honestly, these comparisons with a higher-mid range GPUs on the PC side are not very flattering for Sony. I understand that PSSR is not there yet and DLSS has had years of head-start. I get it all. But you can expect better ray-tracing on a 750-isch $ brand new, PRO console. These rough reflections in many scenes look crazy bad. Distracting as hell. I feel like PS6 will be really great once Sony gets enough time to iron out stuff.. but as of right now PS5 Pro isn't looking very hot.