The concept of ministerial responsibility: IMR and CMR (Comp 2, Section 3.2)

[@harrypanter8916]

Thank you because let’s be real, out of the specification this is the one everyone is going to struggle to write a 30 marker the most on. Good luck everyone and thank you!

[@CERTI-SY786]

Depends on the day

[@CERTI-SY786]

Do u take as level?

[@harrypanter8916]

@@CERTI-SY786 A-Level

[@Aaron-vb4qb]

Alan mate your the best! Watched this vid last night, learnt all the examples & this came up for the 30 mark essay and I smashed it all thanks to u! GOAT 🐐

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Fantastic!

[@victoriay1713]

The careerist argument is quite strong for the reason as to why there’s been a lack of resignations. The likes of Patel, Sunak and Dorries having a role under any other PM is highly unlikely.

[@stunner8481]

I like this, I’ll use it. Thanks :)

[@usn8964]

This came up. You’re the best.

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Excellent, hope the video helped

[@ellahirmasto6972]

Thank you so much! I was just wondering, with the recent editing of the ministerial code (removing the necessity of a minister to resign but rather just needing to apologise) how do we adress this?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

I’d use it to reinforce the idea of the PM as ‘judge, jury and executioner’ the fact that ministers can change the code that regulates their behaviour shows it is flawed and needs reform

[@jakecoughlan5135]

Thinking you did a good job making this before this morning

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Hope it helped people

[@robinpotter9325]

This was so helpful! Thank you so much! I was wondering, with the recent changes with IMR in parliament - how would we address this in an essay?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

I’d talk about the fact the ministers being able to change the code that regulates them shows that it is flawed. It certainly looks like the PM is driving the change to save himself and his mates from having to resign. Accountability has been weakened.

[@zdenka2436]

@@AlanHistoryNerd ah thank you so much

[@CERTI-SY786]

U could talk about the prime ministers powers

[@matildacollins6918]

If you're writing an essay eg 'Evaluate the view conventions on ministerial responsibility no longer apply in practice' how would you structure it?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

I'd look at IMR and CMR separately, then it depends on how you do paragraphs or sections. Something like: Overall introduction- IMR as it should apply in practice- evidence that it still does- evidence that it doesn't- mini conclusion. Then repeat the stages for CMR and add an overall conclusion

[@DarcyW783]

Can you do intro and 2 big paras (one on IMR and one on CMR) and then a conclusion? So lets say both are not effective (and evaluate within)

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

I’d call them sections rather than paragraphs if they are that big. As long as you cover all the material with points and counter points, evaluation etc then the structure should be fine.

[@marisa8857]

You're a legend ! thank you so much

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

You're welcome!

[@archieb8291]

Hi Alan, does using representative, elitist, and parliamentary sovereignty class as component 1 links for a question on component 2.

[@Onky-lb5vb]

cheers chap this is great for revision!

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Glad they are helping

[@сашабоднарук-ъ9к]

Does CMR involve collective decision making. Because if Blair for instance did a bunch of decisions on his own, without consilting cabinet, and yet no one speaks out against him because of his poppularity, is CMR still being upheld?

[@minormonkey7368]

would resignations under CMR aimed at scrutinising government be dishonourable? thank you for the videos.

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

The opposite I think as the minister would be stepping down on a matter of principle, making it a honourable move

[@saffron347]

Does individual and collective responsibility apply to the PM as well or just the cabinet ministers?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Applies to PM as well as the rest of the cabinet

[@jacklynch6362]

@@AlanHistoryNerd well....don't think it really applies to the PM anymore

[@nadiavetz9255]

Would it be possible to get a question along the lines of ‘prime ministers are too powerful, cabinet is too powerful’ etc in the Paper 2 2022?

[@user-rj1jo5en3b]

its really the only question they can ask for the executive

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Inclusion of 3.1 (Structure/ Roles/ Power) and 3.2 (Ministerial Responsibility) means something like that is possible

[@harrypanter8916]

@@AlanHistoryNerd surely it’s not possible as 3.3 is not included which looks at the power of the prime minister and the relationships with the cabinet?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

They can ask on: 3.1 The structure, role, and powers of the Executive. Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYfbkHSAo52An6M • Its structure, including Prime Minister, the Cabinet, junior ministers and government departments. • Its main roles, including proposing legislation, proposing a budget, and making policy decisions within laws and budget. • The main powers of the Executive, including Royal Prerogative powers, initiation of legislation and secondary legislative power. Which includes power so something on power of the executive is possible. I'd also be careful ruling things out, 'pick and mix' style questions suggests they may not stick rigidly to the spec

[@davinalauer4446]

Do you think there could be a 30 on house of commons reform

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

It is possible but the sections missed out (notably 1.2) means it would likely be linked to devolution/ EVEL/ English Parliament

[@pennyg1195]

Hi I have a question. Would I be heavily penalised if I gave inaccurate information, such as stating the wrong date for a referendum?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

There should be some margin for error (given that it is an exam etc), but don't just make stuff up. Remember A01 which is focused on knowledge is only 1/3 of the marks.

[@sanadw1549]

Could you mention mention that Owen Paterson broke laws over the random scandal and he had to resign ?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

When he resigned in 2021 he was a backbencher not in cabinet, so relevant to parliamentary standards but not IMR and CMR

[@sanadw1549]

@@AlanHistoryNerd oh I messed up bad then 🤦🏻‍♂️ what about these for advantages of collective ministerial responsibility, para 1 it tames the big beasts and let’s the pm take the leadership role for example legislation on covid tests sajid david and rishi sunak didn’t agree with the pm, then para two I said that it makes a more coherent party because the legislations are agreed by all mps for example new labour tony Blair and Gordon brown the divide between them could have led the party to failure like it did for John major ?

[@Yutappy99]

Boris Johnson not knowingly break the rules? Isn't it the executive branch the one that creates the rules?

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Yep

[@aaaaaaa6954]

Thanks :)

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

Welcome!

[@aaaaaaa6954]

Please could I ask one more quick question. you use contemporary examples. Does this mean that if we used old examples e.g. Geoffrey howe and nigel Lawson resigning under thatcher for a question on ministerial responsibility would we would not get many marks because it is such an old example?thank you 😊😊😊

[@AlanHistoryNerd]

I think contemporary examples are better but the older ones should be fine if they illustrate a pint well. Remember that case studies in the course include pre-1997 events.