Squatting Too Low Is A Problem: How To Fix It

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Alan Thrall

Alan Thrall

7 жыл бұрын

Squatting too low is a problem that I am currently trying to fix. Learn why ass to grass low bar squats are not ideal and how to cut your squat depth.
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@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733
@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 7 жыл бұрын
Somewhere Clarence is thinking "I'll continue to pause squat 550 for 8 while dropping my ass below the Earth's crust."
@SomethingWylde
@SomethingWylde 7 жыл бұрын
E high bar...
@apo75018
@apo75018 7 жыл бұрын
Clarence is a beast, both in strength and technique, but don't forget he has a massive hormonal advantage over Alan... ;-) compare what is comparable ahah.
@willywallybangbang
@willywallybangbang 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen a video of him squatting. I think he does a high bar squat.
@freakychannel123
@freakychannel123 7 жыл бұрын
clarence pauses because of his knee problem. he talked about this while ago. bouncing from the bottom apparently causes problem to his knee. but yeah that guy is a freak
@danielayuch5498
@danielayuch5498 6 жыл бұрын
Clarence is fucking cool but he use drugs.
@andymacmillan6376
@andymacmillan6376 7 жыл бұрын
as a new lifter this shit is all very confusing
@theodorkadorno2221
@theodorkadorno2221 7 жыл бұрын
Andy MacMillan Ignore the glut of internet broscience. Treat your friends' (and randoms in the gym) training anecdotes as stories, not facts. Alan's channel is excellent for learning the main lifts. His advice is top-notch and empirically supported. As already mentioned, Rippetoe and Starting Strength are also excellent resources. Just stay focused. Try and cut out all the noise generated by glorified gym bros.
@bigdeal4147
@bigdeal4147 7 жыл бұрын
1. squat down until knees are AT 90 or just under 90 degrees. anything above that is ZERO REPS
@joshjohnston7388
@joshjohnston7388 7 жыл бұрын
Don't get too nuts with it. As a starting lifter, concentrate on the main barbell lifts. Be on a good starter program (Starting Strength is a great one). Don't overthink it. Pay attention to your body and your progress. When you get more experience and know what feels right, you can start experimenting with different tricks or advice, but for now, just stick to the basics.
@PickYourVenom
@PickYourVenom 7 жыл бұрын
Andy MacMillan as a person who just completed a year of training, I can definitely tell you that repetition has been my best teacher. follow basic rules like below parallel, keeping your back straight, etc. and you'll be good so long as you're honest with yourself. you start with a really low weight and work your way up. none of that ego lifting crap
@SinnedNogara
@SinnedNogara 7 жыл бұрын
Andy MacMillan Honestly the hundreds of KZbin videos probably cause mental overload. Just read SS and don't look back.
@dougguida
@dougguida 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to believe anymore...
@sergiotl7378
@sergiotl7378 7 жыл бұрын
Just squat as you like and don't listen too much to guys on youtube.
@amarillorica
@amarillorica 7 жыл бұрын
ATG does a butt wink. He did a butt wink cheat bounce. Dont do that.
@SinnedNogara
@SinnedNogara 7 жыл бұрын
If your not a competitive powerlifter this does not apply to you in the slightest.
@anthonytruong1061
@anthonytruong1061 7 жыл бұрын
SinnedNogara I'm a competitive pl'er. So just stick with high bar bouncing for me then?
@SinnedNogara
@SinnedNogara 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Truong Go like a foot below parallel and pause to impress the judges
@lntimidatingxbl5857
@lntimidatingxbl5857 7 жыл бұрын
Now the quarter squatters are gonna use this as an excuse
@OnAChairSitting
@OnAChairSitting 7 жыл бұрын
"I can squat 6 plates" *dips down 6 inches and shits himself getting back up*
@raulsalcedo8332
@raulsalcedo8332 6 жыл бұрын
lntimidating XBL I thought the same thing as you did.
@raulsalcedo8332
@raulsalcedo8332 6 жыл бұрын
" _Who cares what others are doing. Doesn't affect you_ " That's quite a miopic outlook, I say as I think about all the quarter squatters that hogged up the squat stations while not actually using it 80% of the time, but just leave an article indicating that it's in use, when in reality, the person occupying the machine, though not physically, does something else entirely unrelated to the intended purposes of the squat station/smith machine. You better not be one of those guys, seedy, or, I swear, I'm gonna go apeshit!
@KaiTenSatsuma
@KaiTenSatsuma 5 жыл бұрын
Don't feel like dealing with that sciatica numb-leg ass-pain stuff anymore. I'd rather just load up and take a walk with that weight on my traps with one third squats than deal with that again.
@noradlark167
@noradlark167 4 жыл бұрын
Quarter squat is a legit movement.
@OT-oi8kl
@OT-oi8kl 7 жыл бұрын
Good to know that even experts are students
@TonyHStanley
@TonyHStanley 5 жыл бұрын
The best experts are the best students
@shinpaws1014
@shinpaws1014 4 жыл бұрын
Truly is
@OmarIsuf
@OmarIsuf 7 жыл бұрын
I never squatted to depth anyways #TeamNoCalves
@coolsvilleowner
@coolsvilleowner 7 жыл бұрын
We can see that.
@aaantonios
@aaantonios 7 жыл бұрын
ohh omar. young man
@Avraham.Eisenberg
@Avraham.Eisenberg 7 жыл бұрын
More like #TeamNoTibia&Fibula , at least for me.
@tracking100s4
@tracking100s4 7 жыл бұрын
No one likes your channel fuck off
@MiamiWadeFan
@MiamiWadeFan 7 жыл бұрын
OmarIsuf I like your channel bro
@Brickinasock
@Brickinasock 7 жыл бұрын
This is blasphemy. This is madness!
@sicosidd2350
@sicosidd2350 7 жыл бұрын
This is SPARTAAAAA
@bblue1555
@bblue1555 7 жыл бұрын
sico sidd Kick!
@darkshadow54
@darkshadow54 7 жыл бұрын
Rafael Pena "Ta Da Clifffsaaa!!!!"
@Cyrodine
@Cyrodine 7 жыл бұрын
THIS IS SQUARTA?!?!
@a.julian3770
@a.julian3770 3 жыл бұрын
I do ATG squats. I like the way they feel when you bottom out. It's like you're locked in. I usually don't rely on the bounce and pause momentarily or just come down slow enough so that there is no bounce. I'm not trying to be a competitor and my legs are still getting stronger, so I will probably stick to it.
@BEARTASTROPHY
@BEARTASTROPHY 7 жыл бұрын
If I'm not no clipping through the floor it's not a real squat
@michaelwelsh9700
@michaelwelsh9700 7 жыл бұрын
Always learning, always improving, and open minded. This is why you're the bomb Alan.
@AnabolicAliens
@AnabolicAliens 7 жыл бұрын
Been working on the same thing myself, great video.
@michaelerle9817
@michaelerle9817 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan, I appreciate the humility with which you bring this message. It's not easy getting up in front of all your fans and telling them that you may have misled them. It shows how strong you really are.
@miketacit7049
@miketacit7049 7 жыл бұрын
I was experiencing the same problem with ATG squats. I always done those type of squats because it feels more comfortable and it gives me a good bounce out of it, but it was seriously limiting how much weight I could front/back squat and how many full complete reps I could properly do. These new type of squats you showed really improved my efficiency and has taken me to the next level.
@kpsiex
@kpsiex 2 жыл бұрын
Say hi to future flexibility problems
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work, Alan! - ND
7 жыл бұрын
Starting Strength HIP DRAHVE!
@gravitytraining6516
@gravitytraining6516 6 жыл бұрын
Starting Strength Draahvve with the hyips
@jameswilsonmusic7749
@jameswilsonmusic7749 5 жыл бұрын
HYIP DRAAAAAAAAHVE
@dity.
@dity. 3 жыл бұрын
I hope all is well I feel like God laid this on my heart for me to send you this message! The Bible verses that changed my life which was Acts 2:36-43. I just wanted to say that Jesus Christ can restore your life and that is a promise according to Acts 2:39, and God loves you. If you’re in need of a good church near you here you go to google & type in UPCI Church locator a man named Gabriel helped me find the church that I went to before I moved and they led me to the church that I do go to now! God bless have a great one 🙂. I prayed for you I hope all is well 🙂
@robramirez440
@robramirez440 7 жыл бұрын
I gotta say this came at the perfect time in development for my squat. I've been following your channel for a year or two now and my problem had been for a while that I squat way to low. I've noticed since I stopped going so low and began stopping just at the point of my hips being below my knees. Watching you execute this has definitely reaffirmed that I am on the right track.
@bmillare
@bmillare 7 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to the honesty and humility of Alan.
@ai_serf
@ai_serf 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad you made this video Alan. After watching your previous videos on ATG squats, I became an ATG squatter based on your teaching, but now you make me realize it's wrong. Thank you for having the strength to critique your own program and evolve. Have a great year with lots of gains!
@fraddi
@fraddi 7 жыл бұрын
that guy's eyes are going to pop out of his socket
@shanecorrigan8524
@shanecorrigan8524 6 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jazz that’s what’s called an RPE 10 face
@rubenTR309
@rubenTR309 7 жыл бұрын
This is a nice honest video. Takes some real pride to point out your own mistakes so others can learn too. For anyone who's not quite grasped what he's saying, it's kind of the equivalent of those people who bounce the barbell off their chest during chest press. . . instead of touching their chest and holding the tension there.
@Ozem_Israel
@Ozem_Israel 7 жыл бұрын
thank you, one of the few fitness channels that hasn't totally pissed me and is still doing great content. that needs to be said
@everburning8127
@everburning8127 7 жыл бұрын
You are one of the main reasons I've started squatting as low as possible. Result? Legs sore for 4 days like a cripple with only 155 lbs. and fine with it.
@ismaele9503
@ismaele9503 7 жыл бұрын
Das how u git stronk mane (not being sarcastic)
@Thatclutchkid
@Thatclutchkid 7 жыл бұрын
you need to squat more often if you're still getting sore for half a week. Try twice a week and notice you progress faster and don't feel as sore. Win Win
@tprime2702
@tprime2702 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But that is excessive ROM that isn't utilizing your glutes the entire rep. Gotta stop ass, just a bit lower than parallel. I fixed this with a Smith Machine.
@themrrd12345
@themrrd12345 5 жыл бұрын
Lol squatting 3 times a week you dont even feel sore anynore
@noodleheaddd
@noodleheaddd 5 жыл бұрын
You will slowly mess up your knees, don’t do IT
@samuelday7197
@samuelday7197 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Alan, never thought I'd hear you say this! looking back.. Originally when i was 16, i did quarter squats with decent weight and thought i was strong, about a year later i realised my errors and started squatting ass to grass. I had to leave my ego behind and start from square 1 with much lighter weight and build my strength through full ROM, i felt as though it was the only valid way to squat. However, within the last 18 months, i have had to conciously cut my depth back to where the onset of butt wink occurs to protect my lower spine and surrounding musculature and have never been happier! Always learning and improving
@chelseaislovely
@chelseaislovely 7 жыл бұрын
This is so important. THANK YOU! I was trying and trying to squat as low as possible when I first started squatting and it hindered me not only physically but it also consumed my mentality toward squatting and eventually started inhibiting me from progressing.
@juanhuttoe4517
@juanhuttoe4517 3 жыл бұрын
Dude i found your channel recently. Thanks for all the info. I'm trying to correct my squat form. I'm a little older at 47 but I still have goals still. I've been using your videos among others to get dialed in. Again, thank you and keep em coming.
@austinblankenship7631
@austinblankenship7631 7 жыл бұрын
love your videos, my man. I'm a weight class and a half above you, but we're about the same strength and train very similarly, and always get something out of watching these. Only been into weightlifting hard for around 8 or 9 months (just turned 21) and your channel has helped me more than any other on youtube by far. keep cranking them out!
@patryklau
@patryklau 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you've taken the advice from Austin of not burying your ass at the bottom of the squat - I used to do that too. I'm no competitive powerlifter but in the past year and a half of employing the 'Starting Strength' style squat (as well as the programming), I've gotten gains like I've never had before even when i was 10 years younger. Keep on learning and keep on lifting.
@sarahhornbeck5952
@sarahhornbeck5952 7 жыл бұрын
I love your transparency about adjusting your squat. It's comforting to know that even advanced lifters have to go back and tweak.
@williambugh3117
@williambugh3117 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! So glad you posted this! My Fiance and I have been watching a lot of your videos since we started strong lifts about 3 months ago, and I've been struggling with my squats because I've worked so much at going ATG like you used to preach. Can't wait to see your other videos on this series!
@natethompson8672
@natethompson8672 7 жыл бұрын
Alan..you inspired me to squat ATG years ago though ☹️
@dr.harshad.fitness
@dr.harshad.fitness 6 жыл бұрын
Nate Thompson This is for low bar squats, not high bar
@calixz9253
@calixz9253 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.harshad.fitness thanks for this before this comment I really confused
@brendans9434
@brendans9434 7 жыл бұрын
This has helped me immensely! I have been decending too low, too quick, and the same stall after the bounce at the bottom, and would sometimes bruise my calfs from compression at the bottom. I was able to fix it in a single squat session and complete reps 50lbs heavier than the range I was struggling in, with slow decent, hitting parallel, and only the stretch reflex portion dipping below parallel. 355 felt easy! Awesome video!
@Malstrom100
@Malstrom100 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, Alan, I have a same problem and always thought that's just the way it has to be, but this just makes much more sense. Being in control the whole time and not just sinking down is the way to go.
@benjamincrom7276
@benjamincrom7276 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan. Keep up the good work and all the best in the new year.
@adamjohn12
@adamjohn12 7 жыл бұрын
What about ATG for high bar squats?
@fightington
@fightington 7 жыл бұрын
this allan please
@darkgod5555
@darkgod5555 7 жыл бұрын
Well, why are you squatting high bar? Is it to improve your olympic lifts or general fitness? Then go as low as comfortable. Is it to compete in a powerlifting meet? Then go just below/at parallel depending on the meet's rules. Is it as an accessory to low bar squats? Then it doesn't matter just accumulate volume.
@adamjohn12
@adamjohn12 7 жыл бұрын
I squat high bar to accompany my dead lift. One movement is focused more on quads the other on hamstrings and glutes. Alan has a video about it somewhere on his channel.
@punypoppy9147
@punypoppy9147 7 жыл бұрын
Never doubt ATG for high bar bro. Stick with it and be happy. :) For powerlifting meet and lowbar, i just don't see how anyone would squat ATG, and this is what Alan must be talking about. ^_^
@SinnedNogara
@SinnedNogara 7 жыл бұрын
If your not a competitive powerlifter do that.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 жыл бұрын
0:26. Alan now that you admitted you have a problem we can work to solve it.
@omerlavian5120
@omerlavian5120 6 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS GREAT! It shows beginners like myself that there's ALWAYS something to be improved even at such a high level as yours!
@aurimasjurevicius6086
@aurimasjurevicius6086 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so entertaining, Alan! Thanks so much, I learned alot!
@obits3
@obits3 7 жыл бұрын
"Open up your taint" - Ed Coan
@albertcamus6214
@albertcamus6214 3 жыл бұрын
ancient wisdom
@Nuno4Mettler
@Nuno4Mettler 7 жыл бұрын
I respect your willingness to change your training. I've had to do this a sort of turn around before and it's hard. Keep going man! Love your channel
@hammypants
@hammypants 6 жыл бұрын
i like videos like this because it shows exactly how an experienced lifter goes about analyzing their own work and how the deduce and correct problems. demonstrates how to think instead of just textbooking, to a degree.
@eddie4130
@eddie4130 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'm a big fan of Austin and glad you are giving props to starting strength to your wide audience once again.
@Fake--Natty
@Fake--Natty 7 жыл бұрын
Yes we want to see Austin on your channel! :)
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 7 жыл бұрын
Good info. I took your squat video, in which you stated you would rather squat 150 lb deep than 300 lb shallow. I dropped a ton of weight and started squatting deep, but I have run into the same problem as you. When I get to the bottom, I have some butt wink (not uncomfortable at all and didn't know I was doing it until I videotaped myself from the side). But I noticed everything gets way too loose. I lose the tension in my hips and hamstrings. I'll work on correcting this starting today.
@remonjules
@remonjules 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I've had basically the same problems you're describing in the video, and changing my depth has improved my form overall.
@hithere8753
@hithere8753 7 жыл бұрын
I was really frustrated with this as my gains have tanked during this cycle since I started to go lower in my squats do to your feedback. Thank you for this honest follow up.
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 7 жыл бұрын
arent you looking down because.... you learned how to squat from starting strength?
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 7 жыл бұрын
xanadu172 D that is Alan's own advice.
@Chzborgarsauce
@Chzborgarsauce 7 жыл бұрын
my guess is part 2 will explain why he is looking down and why it is good?
@rynfear
@rynfear 7 жыл бұрын
typically on the ground 4' to 5' in front of you is where SS recommends you look.
@jxr3460
@jxr3460 7 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I look straight up once I hit my lowest point and start to ascend?
@Mr87MadMax
@Mr87MadMax 7 жыл бұрын
Its not about looking at anything. Just go wherever ever a neutral spine takes you. Neutral spine is boss here, that means head and neck too, think about a straight line from the top of your tail bone all the way to the top of your neck. So that will dictate where you 'look'.. Just focus on Neutral spine. So to summarize; Neutral Spine. PS . Spine should be neutral
@KillAWatt1705
@KillAWatt1705 7 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same problem. Ive squated far too deep ever since I started lifting. I was drilled and taught for many years to always go as low as I can to guarantee the hip crease going below the knee cap during competition season while keeping a rigid torso. Because of this I became really self conscious of my squat and it's depth out of fear of a no-lift signal. I always felt shaky going below parallel while also maintaining 'tightness' in the torso, and had a lot of difficulty maintaining that very same tightness at the bottom of my squat. Eventually my squat plateued. My numbers weren't increasing, and encouraged a repetitive stress-injury in my right knee likely from the loss of control and balance which occurs during the `momentum bounce` at the bottom of heavy squats. Took a lot of study and self reflection to actually figure this out and start correcting myself, and I still got ways to go on that front. Funny enough Alan's height and build are very similar to my own so I wouldnt be surprised if this problem is perhaps specific to an endomorphs morphology. TL;DR - Alan's advice here is super useful. Looking forward to the rest of the series! :)
@tks3782
@tks3782 7 жыл бұрын
KillAWatt1705 I've squatted too deep right from the start as well. I've only recently switched to stopping at parallel, but right now I'm actually finding that harder than squatting deep!... was this the same for you when you switched?
@Victoriascarn
@Victoriascarn 6 жыл бұрын
Donthave Aname hell yeah it is harder, because it forces you to keep tension. I understand what Alan is saying, I also used to squat ATG, numbers were stagnant, and I would lose tension at the bottom of my lift. Once i did some research I changed it up and now my numbers have doubled and I go slightly below parallel. But yeah the transion was actually hard lol
@petrocksgarage
@petrocksgarage 7 жыл бұрын
In competition I would agree with you about not going ATG. Only go down as low as you need to. There aren't any extra points for going past depth. But in training I would say ATG is great to get a longer range of motion. Longer range of motion will make getting out of the hole easier in competition. If you use too much bounce in the hole you could incorporate some ATG pause squats to eliminate the bounce. Then maybe a couple weeks before a competition transition to 'proper depth' squats so you get used to it in time for the competition. Just a thought.
@sergiotl7378
@sergiotl7378 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Not to mention he does weightlifting now. I think he should high bar atg squat too.
@SomethingWylde
@SomethingWylde 7 жыл бұрын
Pet Rock's Garage squating atg low bar causes to much forward knee travel in the bottom position which causes the hamstrings to slack which then causes lumbar flexion. To use the muscles of the hips to there greatest capacity (the purpose of the starting strength model of the lowbar squat), squats should be just below parallel and the lifter should stay tight in the bottom position.
@petrocksgarage
@petrocksgarage 7 жыл бұрын
+SomethingWylde, I've heard that before (ATG in low bar brings knees too far forward etc) and it still doesn't make sense because if it was a problem then Olympic Weightlifters, who lift high bar, ATG and with knees really far forward, would have serious knee & lower back problems. Also, your hamstrings pull on your pelvis. So when taught at the bottom they will pull on your lower pelvis, rotating your butt and putting you into lumbar flexion. So you don't really want your hamstrings activated when at the bottom regardless of high or low bar squatting. Just sayin'...
@SomethingWylde
@SomethingWylde 7 жыл бұрын
Pet Rock's Garage For one, the forward knee travel is going to be less of a factor in a highbar squat because its more quad dominant and requires a more vertical back angel to keep the bar mid foot. In other words, they are sitting straight down rather than back. As far as knee and back pain, I never referenced any of this in my comment. I said in order to use the muscles of the hips to their greatest capacity. I also didn't reference the hamstrings attaching to the lumbar spine. I'm saying that squating to the point where your hamstrings are slack will cause you to lose your back angel.
@petrocksgarage
@petrocksgarage 7 жыл бұрын
+SomethingWylde, you mentioned your hamstrings going slack causing lumbar flexion (a.k.a. butt wink). Butt wink typically goes hand in hand with back pain. I brought up the hamstrings because butt wink isn't caused by your hamstrings going slack. Its caused by your hamstrings being too tight, running out of stretch in the hole and thus pulling your butt down so you lose spinal neutrality.
@jeremytee2919
@jeremytee2919 7 жыл бұрын
the best coaches are coachable ,good on ya!
@joshjohnston7388
@joshjohnston7388 7 жыл бұрын
Whoa. Alan's rethinking his squat depth? (looks outside) Well, it is freezing over out there. Seriously though, it takes a big guy to be that accomplished and experienced and still seek out help when things stall.
@womenwholiftheavy
@womenwholiftheavy 7 жыл бұрын
As soon as you started breaking down after saying, "My name is Alan Thrall, and I squat too deep," I was already dying. You're a funny guy Alan, favorite channel on YT!
@chucks222
@chucks222 7 жыл бұрын
Liked the way you weren't taking yourself too seriously but simultaneously always aiming to improve. I appreciate this myself as I've struggled with the same balance/momentum issues when coming out of an ATG squat. Some other interesting comments I saw are: - Lots asking about ATG is still good for high bar/front squat. - Liked Carl's suggestion about stringing a bungee cord across to help learning proper depth Personally I look forward to a few more videos with Alan's new and improved low bar squat and other updates. Keep the great content coming!
@sootyspark7281
@sootyspark7281 7 жыл бұрын
Alan, thanks for this video. I've been struggling to squat 'low' enough but am glad that I've been doing it right. Very helpful indeed 😊
@samwilson4249
@samwilson4249 7 жыл бұрын
You should shave your head and beard to signify this new style of squatting and change in your life.
@Bobbybayou23
@Bobbybayou23 7 жыл бұрын
"He's not on a bunch of drugs" shots fired at Mark Bell lol
@Cyrodine
@Cyrodine 7 жыл бұрын
Although your squats may need some tweaking, but your videos are great Alan. They are just the right duration and have all the necessary info with humor to keep it interesting.
@MrStahlberg
@MrStahlberg 7 жыл бұрын
Great work, Alan! Nice to see your new squat form - looked really clean. Had to rebuild my squats a short while ago. The exercise that helped me with the same problem was the "5 seconds down, 3 seconds in the hole and explode up"-exercise (don't know the real name for it...). Also, thinking about pressing my back into the bar on the way up really gave a great mental cue.
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 7 жыл бұрын
Ass to grass, sir.
@missandeisass4671
@missandeisass4671 6 жыл бұрын
Is that zizek in your profile pic?
@damiansconberg4715
@damiansconberg4715 6 жыл бұрын
Dnt Wry decimated knees please
@zbLoodlust087
@zbLoodlust087 5 жыл бұрын
in the great words of Clarence Kennedy, amen
@tiogriver8479
@tiogriver8479 7 жыл бұрын
I like this video....but now go and edit all the old video you have make about go deep XD
@f4zkh4n
@f4zkh4n 7 жыл бұрын
i trusted you Alan! and now you want to turn my world upside down!!?? how could you.
@JavedAlam24
@JavedAlam24 7 жыл бұрын
Tio Griver yeah what the hell, Alan is the whole reason I squat deep!
@NandortheRelentless
@NandortheRelentless 7 жыл бұрын
He doesn't need to. His purpose previously has been to cure quarter squatters from their delusion of squatting heavy.
@tiogriver8479
@tiogriver8479 7 жыл бұрын
sarcasm -.-
@libertynindependence
@libertynindependence 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was missing something. His videos were the reason I went to ATG.
@auagstacking4189
@auagstacking4189 6 жыл бұрын
So glad I discovered both his old ATG video from like 2015 and this one in 2017 so I didn't waste two years going too deep in my squat. It pays to be late in the game lol. Kudos to Alan for being open to improvement and council.
@richiesalinas7826
@richiesalinas7826 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Allen, as a power lifter watching your channel. I have also got to the point where I had to change my form for the best, part of the sport. Always need to change to get better in a way
@ColinDeWaay
@ColinDeWaay 7 жыл бұрын
As long as you don't compete IPF / USAPL lol
@colbyharris7229
@colbyharris7229 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@FilthyManatee
@FilthyManatee 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think about doing a full deep squat (ass to heels) with lighter weight, full control and no bottom bounce? Obviously I am not worried about competing, just getting a full range of motion with my squat.
@sergiotl7378
@sergiotl7378 7 жыл бұрын
A great idea.
@bigdeal4147
@bigdeal4147 7 жыл бұрын
what you are doing is working on your mobility.
@joshjohnston7388
@joshjohnston7388 7 жыл бұрын
I squat to heels on lighter sets (I squat flat-footed) but not so much on maximal efforts. It ends up quite a bit like a pause squat, since I'm trying for smooth, controlled motion. I always go a little deeper than parallel, but in the 90% range, not by too damn much, because my form gets all jacked up.
@FilthyManatee
@FilthyManatee 7 жыл бұрын
I tend to also either bounce or stop my squat at parallel when I go heavy. Bouncing makes me feel like I lose control. That has lead me to stop going as heavy but I am seeing a plateau in strength. Seeing this video, I was wondering if I should change things up.
@SinnedNogara
@SinnedNogara 7 жыл бұрын
If your not a competitive powerlifter do that
@snooptrog1975
@snooptrog1975 7 жыл бұрын
Love watching the progress and the evolution of training methods of KZbin coaches....I just watched Alan's video from 2015 praising ATG for squats.
@abbyaskew6994
@abbyaskew6994 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you !! This is super helpful, I never thought this was a problem but I really think it’s been holding me back from moving more weight. The bounce at the bottom is my crutchhh
@johzuke1
@johzuke1 7 жыл бұрын
What about pause squats?
@alantiemann6952
@alantiemann6952 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't ATG still be beneficial for Olympic lifting? I feel like the lower you squat, the lower you can receive the bar.
@MapSpawn
@MapSpawn 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very insightful. I like that you're willing to criticise yourself! I always went ass to grass but you've convinced me to reapproach.
@sanghyunlukekim3757
@sanghyunlukekim3757 6 жыл бұрын
I was not really prepared for the very beginning of this video.. You made my day Alan. Thank you from South Korea
@serban2139
@serban2139 7 жыл бұрын
can you make a video on the importance of ankle mobility and how to improve it?
@justinberber9848
@justinberber9848 7 жыл бұрын
Wear proper lifting shoes (has a heel).
@Henry44266
@Henry44266 7 жыл бұрын
Tig Bitty Wearing squat shoes for low bar is not necessary. Just stretch your ankles and foam roll your calves.
@serban2139
@serban2139 7 жыл бұрын
Tig Bitty that works, could use even more dorsi, mine really sucks :(
@serban2139
@serban2139 7 жыл бұрын
Henry44266 yee, wish it was that simple, massage and stretch didn't get me that far, otherwise wouldn't be asking.
@merces47letifer4
@merces47letifer4 7 жыл бұрын
Go barefoot as often as possible. Not lifting, I mean just getting around. Walking and so forth. You have to get your foot to work as a foot and your ankle strength will improve immensely. Wearing big cushy shoes all day will only fuck you in the long run. Lifting shoes during squats are excellent.
@JLongTom
@JLongTom 7 жыл бұрын
Why not keep going ATG, just slow and controlled?
@TheLordismyportion
@TheLordismyportion 6 жыл бұрын
JLongTom Because going any deeper than the crease of the below the top of the kneecap would necessarily require the lifter to lose tension, regardless of the speed he or she moves at.
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 6 жыл бұрын
Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this So ass to grass, or no ass to grass? It's all very confusing to newbies like myself when you hear everyone saying go ATG and then this Alan guy says the opposite.
@seattletyler
@seattletyler 6 жыл бұрын
Jake McCoy thank you for sparing me the time to type a similar reply. ATG, and stop bouncing. Pause at bottom; kill momentum.
@lewis8325
@lewis8325 6 жыл бұрын
I think Alan is trying to say that the hamstrings are at maximum tension around parallel depth, and will therefore elicit the strongest stretch reflex out of the hole at this depth - although he doesn't really elaborate too much. that's what I took away from this. essentially, I think he's saying that this is where the muscles will be able to contract at their most forceful. I seem to recall this being explained in Starting Strength but it's a long time since I read it. someone correct me if I am wrong here. also, what Alan is saying aside, you will always be able to lift slightly more at parallel rather than full depth simply due to the reduction in work being done over a corresponding smaller range of motion - if that's what you're going for.
@gtn1994
@gtn1994 6 жыл бұрын
I do ATG every once in a while when I want to focus on quads. I do in fact feel that I lose tension off of the hamstrings and glutes at the bottom of the lift.
@magnoguido
@magnoguido 7 жыл бұрын
This video published while I was at the gym doing Front Squats and man I wish I saw this beforehand. Today I was all about "as low as possible" and while attempting a 1RM PR, I messed up my knee trying to come out of the hole without a bounce. Please keep making more of these videos.
@beeftitan38
@beeftitan38 7 жыл бұрын
This will be an awesome series
@RealnameKevin
@RealnameKevin 7 жыл бұрын
" Dang now that's a squat! "
@grantalexander1017
@grantalexander1017 7 жыл бұрын
ATG all day
@FantusyFailure
@FantusyFailure 7 жыл бұрын
it seems whenever I'm trying to figure out something with my training you have a timely video that helps clear some of the fog, thank you.
@kristenlee8377
@kristenlee8377 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Alan. Good video. As always, very informative.
@TiberiusStorm
@TiberiusStorm 7 жыл бұрын
Rippetoe tells people to look down in his SS videos! 7:20
@Salbanana74
@Salbanana74 7 жыл бұрын
what about squatting to low on high bar? same rules apply?
@capra_88
@capra_88 6 жыл бұрын
a squat should only go as low as you can with a straight back and upright chest, if its barely at parallel then lots of mobility work/stretching needs to be done
@RTR15Glenn
@RTR15Glenn 7 жыл бұрын
always improving, good video👍
@shortcutDJ
@shortcutDJ 7 жыл бұрын
i recently subscribed, and i absolutely love this show. I'm not in a good place to do any sports,allthough i wish i could when i watch your content. Absolutely contagious.
@MrAshraffwk
@MrAshraffwk 7 жыл бұрын
notification squad where you at??
@JulioDias
@JulioDias 7 жыл бұрын
ASS TO GRASS SIR!
@donnkoz
@donnkoz 7 жыл бұрын
Really cool to see this video Alan. You taught me a shit load about squats and I thank you for leading me to my current success. That being said I spent a while getting the flexibility to make it down to the depth that you show in your videos and it did negatively impact me because I simply could not maintain tightness at a certain point passed parallel. I eventually found my happy medium though and since then I've made faster gains and better improvements to my athletic ability. I was always kind of iffy about compromising a little but after this video I'm feeling way better. Good luck to you Alan, 600 will come to you easy peasy!
@ThePayneFactor
@ThePayneFactor 7 жыл бұрын
I squat just like this and always looked at your squat Alan as a motivating factor. I know myself I am too deep but ignore this as my squat isn't very strong anyway. I'm sure I'll be able to learn a lot through these upcoming videos. Thank you again for your incredible content.
@GoatOfTheWoods
@GoatOfTheWoods 7 жыл бұрын
Well, i'm doing ass to grass.BUT, each time i am down, i pause for a second, so that i eliminate the possibility of any inertia bounce. I kinda feel sad that you are letting go of atg...
@bachphantat
@bachphantat 7 жыл бұрын
and most olympic lifters still out squat powerlifter 😂😂😂😂
@Burog1
@Burog1 7 жыл бұрын
Bachteria more drugs and better genetics since doing powerlifting doesn't make much money.
@mtbicepulous
@mtbicepulous 7 жыл бұрын
Bachteria doing ATG low bar squats are useless but high bar it's almost a necessity
@bachphantat
@bachphantat 7 жыл бұрын
Samurai Squat In order to receive funding from the gov, olympic lifters have to compete and win some comps. Otherwise they ll have to pay for their own. I am friend with some lifters from national team and thats what they say.
@Burog1
@Burog1 7 жыл бұрын
Bachteria​ yea that shows the incentive they have to try Oly lifting, in powerlifting even top level athlete's don't get much funding at all. With oly lifting being an Olympic sport it will attract more often people with top tier genetics. Also the PED use in Oly lifting is another topic lol all those elite athlete's who are at the world level or even national level are on levels of shit. Most powerlifters just can't afford the drugs
@judgeholden6761
@judgeholden6761 7 жыл бұрын
If by "olympic lifters" you mean people at the olympics than yes no shocker there....however when I hear "most olympic lifters" i generally imagine the quintessential 5'9 165 lbs douchebag spending fucking 30 minutes on my deadlift platform doing clean and jerks in spandex who probably prides himself on doing such complex lifts to compensate for his physique being able to be hidden by a long sleeve T shirt like vegan gains xD ......or you know.....a fat crossfit girl.
@christophdre3731
@christophdre3731 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man for the awesome squat content!
@Denmcauliffe
@Denmcauliffe 7 жыл бұрын
Alan, you're a fucking champion!!! Using your own vids to point out faults in your own technique and how to fix them, I've always appreciated your honest opinion and straight up approach to lifting heavier/faster/stronger and this video is testament to that. Hats off to you my friend
@djboostin20
@djboostin20 7 жыл бұрын
The purpose of life becomes realized at ATG.
@Stoicstruggle
@Stoicstruggle Жыл бұрын
Literally just don't bounce. This isn't a reason against atg squats at all.
@dragonandante
@dragonandante 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I was beginning to run into patellar tendon issues as I was getting into much heavier waits, and fixing my depth solved the issue.
@m3gaman00
@m3gaman00 7 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see that even after being successful at owning a gym you can admit that you have to start all over at your low bar squat. And this eased my mind on the depth that I have and form I've been using.
@emZee1994
@emZee1994 7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with this, which is not common on your channel for me. sure if you're training to compete in powerlifting and u don't wanna go lower than required I get it. but for general strength and athletics u should squat ATG. but u stop just short of the place where u lose tension and "sit into your heels". in other words u don't hit the resting squat position. this requires control in the second half of the squat, not just dive-bombing it. and yes squatting ATG is inferior for hamstring development, but it is superior for glute development, also deadlifts work great for hamstrings when squating with flat shoes, high Bar, u will find that u cant hit the resting position without losing a neutral lumber spine. (most people) so squat ATG while keeping full tension in the glutes and keeping a neutral lumber. if u wanna crank it up add a pause at the bottom btw all this is assuming u squat high Bar or front squat, i.e. Olympic Style. with is more athletic imo
@lolsluls995
@lolsluls995 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta change that channel picture man..
@oodings2561
@oodings2561 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent, informative video, as always. Cheers.
@TheHeights626
@TheHeights626 3 жыл бұрын
This is legit my problem! Thank you for posting this!
@terrydavis6368
@terrydavis6368 3 жыл бұрын
Olympic lifters always squat ATG.
@barryallen767
@barryallen767 9 ай бұрын
different sport and they do it highbar This is a lowbar squat
@Iqe_zealous
@Iqe_zealous 7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to delete your how to squat video now Alan
@lanidrac
@lanidrac 7 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the rest of the series.
@arthursimsa9005
@arthursimsa9005 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Allan! Excited to see how your squat form will become!
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