I'm impressed with how both Alaskan & Hawaiian both managed to keep this development well under the radar. Undoubtedly the best well-kept aviation secret of 2023!
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
I would agree with that.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@chrisb5888 Virgin, those of those in the industry knew was coming. That wasn't any big secret. You can thank VA for that since Branson wasn't happy and leaking that all over the place. Wasn't happy that venture FAILED. That's why it was no secret at the time.
@soccerguy24339 ай бұрын
Umm they just now revealed PLANS to purchase Hawaiian. There's nothing secret here. Nothing has happened.
@TUMBA09 ай бұрын
@@soccerguy2433do you know how many individual humans are involved in this announcement? Whatever number you think...add 50. It's impressive for anything at this scope and scale to escape ALL of the industry analysts.
@cellpat73929 ай бұрын
A medal to AS & HA for being so discrete. walk quietly and carry a BIG SACK of money!
@TacticaLLR9 ай бұрын
I think both airlines will stay somewhat separate, with Hawaiian Airlines operating in itself, just under Alaska.
@NarasimhaDiyasena9 ай бұрын
“For now”. They’ll play it cool for the first year then cannibalize the carrier creating a socio-political upheaval among Hawaiians and Hawaiian enjoyers who watch their airline get rug pulled like Virgin America
@Cerby19799 ай бұрын
They did say that both will operate separately. However, this could also be blocked by the DOJ as this acquisition removes a competitor and may cause a rise in airfares.
@lcthevideogamer9 ай бұрын
That’s also what Alaska Airlines had originally said when they bought out Virgin America 7 years ago, only for them to do away with their seatback entertainment and retire all of their brand new Airbus planes 🙄
@TacticaLLR9 ай бұрын
@@lcthevideogamer but Virgin America was already associated with a larger group of airlines, with the same name, it wouldn’t make sense to keep it on its own. With Hawaiian it’s different because they rely on wide bodies, and Hawaiian is an iconic airline, you simply cannot get rid of its aircraft and aesthetic without losing money.
@mikemcd9 ай бұрын
It’s gonna say Hawaiian Airlines x Alaska Airlines on the body
@rushfan39 ай бұрын
This comes as a shock to me. The purchase of Hawaiian Airlines by Alaska Airlines was not something I saw coming. Let's hope this will be a smooth transaction and they will allow Hawaiian Airlines to maintain its identity.
@hanj319 ай бұрын
It will be similar to Air France KLM group I’m hoping
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
We shall see how it progresses. It actually seems a bit of desperate move by both. HA is losing a lot of money and AS doesn't haven't options left in the east. The stated goal is to turn HNL into a major hub to Asia. Seems sketchy at best
@timduggan14619 ай бұрын
@@hanj31I think? I hope you're right there
@Dstew57A9 ай бұрын
Hawaiian will keep its name and livery..just will have also Alaska Air indicated somewhere on the livery
@matthewwelsh2949 ай бұрын
Hawaiian is keeping its identity
@Blank009 ай бұрын
An airline company with multiple brands has never worked in the US. All mergers here have resulted in discontinuation of other brands. Even in Canada, WestJet is shutting down their other brands. The only reason why this worked with IAG, AFKLM, and Lufthansa Group is because they are not North American.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
Yes. Highly questionable plan so far announced. This sounds like a rushed deal.
@soccerguy24339 ай бұрын
@@johniii8147it's not even a done deal. It's just a press release
@waynehagler49549 ай бұрын
I don't know. Alaska does OK with Horizon.
@waynehagler49549 ай бұрын
I don't know. Alaska does OK with Horizon.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@waynehagler4954 Completely different situation and scale. That was a regional carrier they purchased years ago to feed SEA.
@RashadKhanAviation20239 ай бұрын
HOLD UP WHAT IN THE WORLD OF AVIATION?!
@snooz2219 ай бұрын
Ikr
@ari_299719 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY THOUGHT THAT RIGHT NOW 💀💀💀💀
@timduggan14619 ай бұрын
Again....my thoughts (retired UAL pilot). Hawaiian has B-787s on order, circa 2024. Alaska is (now) mostly B-737 fleet type. Hawaiian's best widebody currently, the A-330. They still have life left. Long-term planning is required.
@nomercyinc67839 ай бұрын
nothing exists circa 2024 in 2023. nothing exists in 2024 yet
@sosaix35459 ай бұрын
Also, AS really loved the A321NEO, but the leases they inherited from that basketcase company known as VX were ridiculous. It's like getting rid of a car your new wife has but bought with her lousy credit and was financed at an 11% interest rate. Sure you like it, but you can't live with those terms so you get rid of it and buy something new with a 4% interest rate since your credit is much better.
@sanmateoflights9 ай бұрын
Rainy Seattle and Sunny Hawaii - what a combination !
@sushka9 ай бұрын
It’s been raining a lot here in HNL this past week 😆
@matthewwelsh2949 ай бұрын
Seattle is very sunny during the summer months
@thomasairbuspilot9 ай бұрын
Epic transition around 4:40 from Alaska A21N to Hawaiian A21N
@richardneilan23929 ай бұрын
"OMG!" is exactly what I said when this breaking news story appeared on CNN. I certainly wasn't expecting this news. Although, long-term, it is doubtful that both brands will survive. Hawaiian's culture is truly unique and I would hate to see it diminished. Despite its name, Alaska will always be a "Seattle airline." Thank you Dj for covering this important story. It will be interesting, indeed, to see how it plays out.
@grantkaski3509 ай бұрын
Oh a CNN watcher
@maxsaviation95129 ай бұрын
@@grantkaski350oh a fox propaganda watcher
@stilljt28649 ай бұрын
I think they will strictly because the doj doesnt seem to want more consolidation
@moekitsune9 ай бұрын
@@grantkaski350 Why even mention this it has nothing to do with the video
@jwil42869 ай бұрын
how is Alaska a "Seattle airline"? are you saying that because they dominate the domestic market at SEA? Or how they're the ONLY carrier to serve PAE (a secondary airport in the northern part of the Seattle metro)? or what is it that doesn't seem very "Alaska" or "Anchorage" to you? to be clear, I am purely curious.
@Michael_K_Woods9 ай бұрын
Hawaiian Airlines is a terribly run company facing a liquidity crisis. They need this deal and I am surprised Alaska is giving them a lifeline.
@Blank009 ай бұрын
I was surprised JetBlue never set their eyes on Hawaiian and decided to look at Spirit instead
@census33709 ай бұрын
@@Blank00JetBlue just wanted the fleet and crews of spirit. Adding an airline at the furthest point of western United States wouldn’t make sense for them.
@travelinginfantryveteran54399 ай бұрын
Alaska and Hawaiian will always be brothers and sisters cause of the 49th and 50th states and the CEO of Alaska once said: "The skies over the Pacific without Hawaiian will a dark Skies, Hawaiian will maintain its current logo and will not go away.
@Railviation9 ай бұрын
Never thought that I would ever see this day coming, haha! I think it's absolutely hilarious that Alaska will be forced to keep the A321neos when they just retired the ex-Virgin America ones like two months ago. I also love how the FAA or whoever that they approved this merger but yet for some reason they declined the JetBlue-Spirit one.. oh well!
@andrewkosmowski39859 ай бұрын
Maybe those Airbuses will be sent to Hawaiian, assuming this consolidation occurs?
@paulgooding8039 ай бұрын
Yeah "whoever" is kind of a giveaway that you have no idea what you are talking about. Mergers tend to lose approval due to a loss of competitive potential .... which is obviously not an issue here.
@LtNduati9 ай бұрын
This is bonafide breaking news!!!
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
Nice change for once.
@vincetelles37679 ай бұрын
Hawaiian is introducing the Boeing 787-9 soon. 10 with more options. I wonder if the new Alaska Airlines with Hawaiian being integrated will look to remove the A330s for more 787s eventually
@p4family9 ай бұрын
Alaska is all-Boeing so I’ll bet they’ll get rid of all Airbus planes in the fleet - that’s what they did with Virgin America’s fleet.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
Let's not speculate about that. The current stated goal is this is just a subsidiary with separate operations.
@dmcr95259 ай бұрын
Hawaiian actually stated previously they were already going to replace the A330 with the 787.
@dmcr95259 ай бұрын
@@johniii8147Hawaiian has already decided to replace the A330 with the 787 according CH-Aviation and other inside sources.
@Railviation9 ай бұрын
Due to the 787 delays, Hawaiian extended their A330 contracts for 5 more years. So they should be still around for a bit longer.
@liamball83359 ай бұрын
I love Hawaiian! I hope they maintain their great service.
@6allmotivepowers3639 ай бұрын
I'm fine with it as long as Hawaiian doesn't cease to exist.
@chiefcaptaincole98899 ай бұрын
While I doubt the Hawaiian brand will get killed off due to these two airlines sharing the similar trait of providing exclusive service with Alaska serving small communities within Alaska and Hawaiian providing inter island service. However, remembering what happened to Virgin America concerns me. Many people will be extremely upset if Alaska decides to discontinue the Hawaiian brand as it will leave Hawaii with no locally themed or owned airline.
@gfrede19 ай бұрын
This is a very smart transaction to me with very little route overlap. The route structure will be very complimentary. It will be interesting to see the fate of the Hawaiian Airbus A320 family. I think Alaska will keep the A330s until they can phase them out with the 787s. I do hope the identity of Hawaiian will be maintained, because of its esteemed history. We shall see!
@Sams9119 ай бұрын
As a Hawaiian pilot (A321 CA) I think this will be a win/win if done right... if they just gut our brand and fleet it will not work... if they tweak this and tweak that, then it will create a growth and synergy.
@PrestigeWorldWide7779 ай бұрын
Do you think they will keep the 717 or possibly contract that out for inter-island?
@Sams9119 ай бұрын
@@PrestigeWorldWide777 they will try to contract it to one of the regional carriers, however, the scope language in the Hawaiian Airlines contract, makes that extremely difficult
@ak1ranger9 ай бұрын
They will absolutely gut the fleet and the brand, thats what they do. They don't want Hawaiian's routes, they want to remove Hawaiian's routes, its what they do. I worked for Alaska for 19 years, they are not a kind company and they do not care about legacy or heritage or history.
@lrg38349 ай бұрын
Alaska should do what Air France did with KLM. Keep Hawaiian as a separate, integrated brand.
@rylans.53659 ай бұрын
They are…
@jamesstark2659 ай бұрын
…for now
@emikomina9 ай бұрын
Alaska airlines bailed out Hawaiian Airlines
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
That and buying up a competitor as they did with Virgin. Hawaii is a big part of Alaska's business from the west coast.
@raptorshootingsystems33799 ай бұрын
Can see the Hawaiian Airlines brand becoming like a boutique airline within an airline. Continental Micronesia had it serving between Hawaii and the South Pacific. Hawaiian will become intra Hawaii and to key destinations connecting Hawaii. Alaska Air gains a wide body foundation that can be expanded. In a joint interview, the CEO of Alaska Air brought up the 787’s without being asked and talked about being able to position them not only for Hawaii. I can see the order being expanded as regulatory approval is more clear.
@chazglenn39 ай бұрын
Alaska. Not Alaskan...
@BrianThePilot16409 ай бұрын
I pray that Alaska doesn't massacre the passenger experience as they did with Virgin America
@RashadKhanAviation20239 ай бұрын
They could possibly merge the experience from both airlines on selective flights to Hawaii, which is a very high potential.
@erauprcwa9 ай бұрын
Alaska ranked #1 above Virgin America on all metrics prior and after the merger.
@markdc11459 ай бұрын
Better pray hard then!
@skinnybricks9 ай бұрын
A passenger experience that wouldn't exist today, to be fair - if they didn't get bought.
@Tokamak3.14159 ай бұрын
I guess I'm one of the few who wasn't surprised by this. When JetBlue took Spirit they pretty much dumped LGB and canceled almost all of their LAX service. I booked 6 flights from LAX to SEA only to have each one canceled. JetBlue gave up it's conquest of the West for the time being. Meanwhile, Alaska is now operating at maximum capacity at SNA and is desperate for gates. I fly on Hawaiian and Alaska frequently. The combined group could be very powerful if they can get their synergies in place. Both airlines are worlds better then American and United and usually better than Delta when on the Pacific rim.
@Rndmstff7379 ай бұрын
I guess we can say goodbye to Hawaiian airlines airbus planes
@rylans.53659 ай бұрын
The 787 is already slated to replace the aging fleet. At this time, the acquisition involves Hawaiian continuing to operate independently, but under the same umbrella. This means that all logos, trademarks, and liveries will remain untouched. Hawaiian Airlines is a flag carrier of the state of Hawaii, and I doubt the brand itself will ever sunset (terminate).
@Tcook969 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure they will actually keep the Hawaiian brand separate. Comparing it to Virgin America doesn’t make sense, because there was never any promise to keep those two brands separate, nor would that have made sense for that merger.
@BrandonTheWarriorPrince9 ай бұрын
I just applied to be a Flight Attendant for Alaska Airlines
@vapour_xs92359 ай бұрын
Gotta say, even the lingo between me and my flight instructor (who flies for Horizon Airlines) never told me about this, or even knew of it! I’m happy to see Alaska finally spreading their wings a bit more by acquiring a loner-distance based airline such as Hawaiian, things could look very promising here in the near future for my favorite airline.
@df4469 ай бұрын
It's been a rumor at Alaska Air Group for about 10 years.
@mitchellquartero9 ай бұрын
It was a shock here in Hawaii as well early this morning
@internallyLe4i9 ай бұрын
I am just excited to see if Alaska air group acquires any widebody aircraft from Hawaiian such as the a330 series or the 787 series that will soon be delivered to Hawaiian.
@briananderson65589 ай бұрын
Alaska retired the airbus fleet because the leases were terrible! Virgin didn't have the negotiating power that Alaska has! If the leases were more favorable, AS might have kept the airbus! Alaska is not anti-airbus as a lot of social media reports! The price tag and or lease rates just need to be in the company's best interest!
@wallacegrommet93439 ай бұрын
Alaska flies one type , the 737
@AlaskaErik9 ай бұрын
An all Boeing fleet makes sense for an airline the size of Alaska when you look at it from the standpoint of pilot and FA training, maintenance and spare parts. And it doesn't hurt that Boeing is right down the street vs almost two continents away.
@user-yj6ok5rf8e9 ай бұрын
I wonder if Alaska Airlines would keep A330 fleets if HAL was changed into Alaska Airlines. I know that B787 fleets have been very popular now.
@mr.luisanthonydivito35859 ай бұрын
Maintaining two separate brands may not be operationally efficient, particularly at West Coast airports, where Hawaiian planes could be optimally utilized for flights to Alaska, Mexico, or other U.S. destinations. Leveraging Hawaiian's widebody fleet presents significant potential in the Asian and European markets, supporting direct flights to and from key hubs like SEA and PDX. Consolidating under a single brand could streamline operations and enhance overall efficiency.
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich9 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see if Alaska utilize Hawaiians widebody Jets for expiations from its mainland hubs to Europe or Asia.
@RashadKhanAviation20239 ай бұрын
That's the upgrade of the merger. I'd expect Alaska to launch a route from the likes of Seattle all the way to London on a 787 Dreamliner if they ever acquire some from Hawaiian.
@TacticaLLR9 ай бұрын
Hawaiian is not turning into Alaska Airlines, they are just merging, similar to Air France + KLM.
@jeremyy91889 ай бұрын
Let's see if Southwest can offer more to get HA
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@jeremyy9188 They won't. Not interested. They have their own issues.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@TacticaLLR To some degree given what's announced/figured out. Separate brands etc. But AS's latest statement is the vision is to turn HNL into a a major international connecting hub for them. This will be messy.
@flyBy_Offical9 ай бұрын
No way! I would had never expected this!!
@brucemiller81099 ай бұрын
The Frozen Drunk Eskimo can now go to Hawaii to warm up and dry out.
@DreamlinerFan20169 ай бұрын
I was not expecting this new to pop up today! It’s quite the surprise to see within the aviation industry.
@jiongyu81859 ай бұрын
Will greatly miss the HA's Pualani
@DreamlinerFan20169 ай бұрын
@@jiongyu8185Alaska did state that they will keep the Hawaiian brand
@theonemouse9 ай бұрын
I hope to God that they do a similar deal like how Air France & KLM operate… I love the Hawaiian’s fleet is mixed and I love the Hawaiian brand too. I am worried as to what they will do with the A321neo aircraft though…
@NicksDynasty9 ай бұрын
The two newest states partnering makes sense
@Dan.d6499 ай бұрын
Quite a shock!! These two great airlines combining to become Alaska Airlines is beyond anything unheard of. As far as the fleet is concerned, that is what bears the most confusion. I think Alaska Airlines will replace all the Airbus A330s with the newer Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that were previously ordered by Hawaiian Airlines. However, what they decide to do with the new Airbus A321 NEOS is beyond me. These aircraft do have good range, but will they fit into their future route portfolio, I don't know. The Boeing 737-700, 800, and 900 and the 737-MAX airplanes have all done really well in that fleet and I think they should consider keeping an "all Boeing" fleet since their Seattle base is right close to Boeing buildings and hangers. The Airbus A321 NEOs are newer aircraft however, and they probably would keep them for 1 to two years and utilize them until I think, more Boeing "replacements" come along.
@rtano335679 ай бұрын
Alaska 787s gonna be awesome
@Freeze-O9 ай бұрын
Always wanted to visit Alasker.
@AVgeek919 ай бұрын
Seeing A330s & 787s in the Alaska Airlines livery seems strange.
@briansparks49269 ай бұрын
A330 is being replaced by B787 over time. Alaska will over time replace the other Airbus types as they never signed any contracts with Airbus so my expectation is that they will deal with the issue in the same manners as they dealt the the Virgin America acquisition.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
They will have to wait for any lease agreements to expire or if purchased will have to have to pay for remaining payment obligations. If they do end up buying them AS in the hook for all of that. They don't just go away. With VA that's exactly how it worked out. They continued to pay the lease payments until expiration and the final batch of 321Neo they took a big right off to get out the lessees and brokered a deal to sell them to AA.
@crashlander55559 ай бұрын
Finally some HUGE NEWS… After so many false alarms LOL OMG! 😅 thanks for the video ✈️
@airplanechannel94939 ай бұрын
That is the best thumbnail! That was my exact reaction 😂
@Defan249 ай бұрын
(My perspective - Grew up in the PNW on Alaska Airlines, recently moved to Hawaii) Holy shoot this is huge, Hawaiin's Boeing 717's for Interisland travel needs to be refreshed and I hope to see something huge come from Alaska-Hawaiin Airlines. Alaska-Hawaiin Airlines Service to Japan, South Korean, Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific Islands, and the longest Domestic flight from Boston to Honolulu. Hawaiin Strong position on the Islands Airports now under the Alaska-Hawaiin Brand. This would be the first time Alaska has had a Widebody jet too! Honestly, it would be awesome to see them take up the Hawaiin Airlines brand instead, or maybe revive the Ohana brand back for the Interisland flights back would be amazing! Great things are to come, I can feel it!
@dagoose.9 ай бұрын
Also you will get oneworld benefits on both airlines, and american will partner with them now
@stacky512a9 ай бұрын
at 1:41 you think you are watching a big plane taxi, then you see a really big Korean Air 380 plane in the background. Wowsers!
@Capt.OggyPeabodyOfficial9 ай бұрын
There's an expectation for Hawaiian Airlines to become a full Boeing operated fleet once Alaska Airlines bought out Hawaiian Airlines
@brucebaker1119 ай бұрын
Hawaiians' strategy is to replace the A330 with the 787. That can still do that with boeing. Perhaps we will see Max 7s being flown inter Island. The A321s make sense for the West Coast runs. Whatever happens, it will take time. Alaska has done a great job maintaining the separate Horizon brand for many years. Thank Southwest Airlines for forcing this deal to happen.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
You were completely focused on the wrong issue. Of why the merger would happen.. really has nothing to do with fleet
@jameswaters39399 ай бұрын
IMO, if the sale does go through, Alaska should keep the Hawaiian brand for that part of the company.
@rickyism15769 ай бұрын
I've always loved Hawaiian. Raised in the PNW and Stationed in Hawaii, i'd fly Alaska to Seattle and get a Hawaiian widebody to the Islands. Not sure what Alaska gets from this because they don't really compete for markets, and they now not only immediately reintroduce Airbus to the fleet, but widebodies at that. They did pay like less than half for Hawaiian than they did for Virgin though if I remember correctly.
@aviator209 ай бұрын
Don’t do this to Hawaiian please!!
@g4orce7039 ай бұрын
It's over for hawaiian airlines. They're airbusses will be retired, get more maxs and give there 717s to delta at a reduced rate
@mstengel7779 ай бұрын
This is a really smart business move. However I think they need to keep the name Hawaiian Air or even merge into that
@df4469 ай бұрын
This has been rumored for years . . . I don't understand everyone's surprise.
@erauprcwa9 ай бұрын
The VX/Alaska merger is a lot different than this. The VX merger had to happen, as JetBlue or Delta would've bought VX and caused issues for Alaska. This merger is keeping Southwest Airlines at bay with regards to the merger. I think Alaska will maintain Hawaiian as a separate branded carrier until the leaders of Alaska figure out international operations and regulator restrictions, since Alaska has only dealt with Canada, Mexico, Cuba, and Central America. After some time, I see them merging the two carriers entirely, once more 787 aircrafts come on property and they can fully transition away from Airbus to Boeing in the future. Learn from the mistakes of VX and grow as a carrier.
@Petriefied02468 ай бұрын
The strength of Hawaiian airlines is as the Pacific equivalent of Emirates, it would be a great way to connect the entire Pacific area.
@theonemouse9 ай бұрын
I’ll say this… if they get rid of the Hawaiian brand OR the Hawaiian authenticity of the brand and make it generic, the Hawaiian people will turn on Alaska hard. Alaska, do NOT Virgin America this if it’s approved… follow the Air France/KLM model.
@nplus1watches359 ай бұрын
Agreed, if Pualani gets replaced by some freaky looking Eskimo, I might as well fly SWA.
@erauprcwa5 ай бұрын
VX came at a cost if they wanted to maintain the brand. People don't understand what actually happened with the AS/VX acquisition.
@thomasburke79959 ай бұрын
I dont think regulatory bodies will let this happen . With Hawaiian being essentially a airbus fleet this purchase is about getting access to markets and the 787 and potential 777x orders..
@jeffssaunders9 ай бұрын
Huh?
@cxa3409 ай бұрын
Regulators will have no real cause to block this purchase. HA is in bad financial shape and the DOJ will have to somehow convince a judge that a possibly bankrupt HA is better for consumers than HA under AS operations - I do not see that argument going far. There is plenty of competition on the Hawaii routes so it will be tough to argue somehow AS will be able to dominate any one market
@pinkasteriodea34809 ай бұрын
As much of a shock as this was, they could be another Air France-KLM type group and have seperate branding and fleets
@ThatBoeing747Guy9 ай бұрын
Did not see this coming.
@RScottPR9 ай бұрын
Hawaiian has already purchased 787’s and there are plenty in the used market. My guess is we’ll see accelerated retirement of the A330’s. No idea about the A320/321 as range is an issue. The big question is the inter-island fleet. Hawaiian was said to start looking for a replacement of the 717’s. This almost guarantees Embraer or even 737-7 as the preferred choice of Alaska for the very short haul fleet.
@bonzobonanza9 ай бұрын
A simple reminder: Just because Alaska and Hawaiian are joining forces doesn't mean they will integrate their fleets into one airline. They will still remain as separate brands.
@nickolliver30219 ай бұрын
just like Vistara and Air India right? Or Jetblue and Spirit?
@bonzobonanza9 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 It's not like those airlines. TATA plans to close down Vistara, and JetBlue wants to close down Spirit. Alaska Group, however, will let Hawaiian operate as its own brand.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
That doesn't go well in the US. VERY questionable strategy.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Vistara brand is going away and if the merger (big IF) is approved the Sprit brand will go away as well.
@fixpacifica9 ай бұрын
Separate brands for now.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
Damn, this is one thing few saw coming. No talk of it as there usually is. But not I'm sure it really makes sense from a network and fleet perspective. The whole keeping them "separate" also does not realize merger benefits. This merger is pretty confusing.
@Jraptorblue84659 ай бұрын
NO NO NO Alaska Airlines have already purchased Virgin America back in 2018, you don't. Need Hawaiian Airlines
@waynehagler49549 ай бұрын
Sure they do
@cxa3409 ай бұрын
If AS doesn’t buy HA then HA is eventually going to go bankrupt - HA’s financials have been terrible
@mrbogeygolf69469 ай бұрын
I believe Hawaiian was working to retire the A330s in favor of the 787. But they did just purchase a bunch of A 321 neos. Will be interesting to see what they do with those
@a.gproductions_official9 ай бұрын
“Oh My God” that thumbnail says it all
@Deltaflot17019 ай бұрын
While it's been my observation that not only the airlines cooperated with each other, but the states as well, ti still a surprise to see Alaska buy Hawaiian. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out
@Alej38809 ай бұрын
I think hawaiian had no choice but to sell. Financially, they were not doing too well. Also, i highly doubt they will keep hawaiian as hawaiian. No airline merger has kept both names years after a merger. I just hope this will create more routes to expand travel and make it more reliable. Prayers for the staff. I think the frontline agents, pilots, and FA's will be ok, but everyone else will be at risk. Whatever happens, may the spirit of aloha live on.
@orsonstarbuck9 ай бұрын
Alaska had kept Horizon separate for decades. It is still separate in many aspects. More recently they have adopted Alaska livery for Horizon Air aircraft.
@BrandanTheBroker9 ай бұрын
Can we just get a darn 787 on the Seattle to Anchorage flights?
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
No there would be never a need.
@philipwarren62699 ай бұрын
Funny. I watch up to 179 people per ship go SEA/ANC everyday on 10+ flts/day. It's one of our hardest routes to nonrev. Always full. But hey, I could be wrong.
@nomercyinc67839 ай бұрын
brands buying other brands isnt ever an omg moment. nothing not life and death is an omg moment
@Abisanth119 ай бұрын
Oh, this came out of nowhere
@jmowreader95559 ай бұрын
It'll be "narrowbody: Alaska; widebody: Hawaiian." I wouldn't be surprised to see them expand into European markets here...Europeans like Hawaii too, and if they set up one flight a day from London, Paris and Frankfurt into either BOS or JFK - where Hawaiian already has gates - it'd be a pretty easy one-stop on one ticket kind of deal.
@boataxe46059 ай бұрын
Does this mean that they will serve pineapple ice cream on board?
@NeilMacedo9 ай бұрын
I was really surprised to hear the news
@artyfuffkin78059 ай бұрын
I haven't been this excited since Spirt bought Jet Blue
@sosaix35459 ай бұрын
The acquisition of VX is completely different; that was a barely ten year old brand with no identity in a core geographic area, whereas HA and AS are their respective namesake states' intrastate highway system, supporting key infrastructure, proudly representing their native communities, and with VX the statement was they'd analyze both brands whereas here it is FIRMLY STATED BY THE LEADERSHIP TEAM that both brands will be retained, with Alaska being the acquirer, a single operating certificate issued under "Alaska Airlines" and the branding for HA will remain but have a "Proudly operated by Alaska Airlines" decal slapped on the fuselage somewhere, probably by the L1 door.
@sixfifty_sebb9 ай бұрын
yea..no, Idk abt this merger, all I want is the Hawaiian Airlines logo to not disappear and for the service to be the same
@robertlyon88769 ай бұрын
I’ve been through 4 airline mergers and they all suck . Both of these company’s are well run and should be a good fit. Good luck to all.
@austinkub23379 ай бұрын
So, uh, on everyone's 2023 BINGO card, who had Alaska/Hawaiian buyout on it?
@delta_cosmic9 ай бұрын
the aviation news no body expected
@TheTraveler239 ай бұрын
I’m Kind of Excited! Then Technically Alaska Flys to Japan!
@alooga5559 ай бұрын
I really doubt Alaska will let the Hawaiian brand to live on if/when the merger is approved because of the way how it has completely erased the legacy of Virgin America. It will be kind of weird to see the Inuit logo on the tail of A330s and 787s because Alaska has never flown any widebody aircraft.
@stevesmoneypit61379 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t be on the the A330s their history now! Good by bus
@rylans.53659 ай бұрын
The 787 is already slated to replace the aging fleet. At this time, the acquisition involves Hawaiian continuing to operate independently, but under the same umbrella. This means that all logos, trademarks, and liveries will remain untouched. Hawaiian Airlines is a flag carrier of the state of Hawaii, and I doubt the brand itself will ever sunset (terminate). You don’t understand, they will never dissolve the Hawaiian Airlines brand for the foreseeable future.
@alooga5559 ай бұрын
@@rylans.5365 so many airlines have come and gone over the years and so Hawaiian is no exception.
@markcorneliuslau9 ай бұрын
Virgin America had no legacy. It ran for nine years and was unsustainable
@hubertkraft22189 ай бұрын
So the Airbusses will disappear from Hawaiian fleet.
@andrewsunde79159 ай бұрын
I work for Alaska, and I was surprised when I saw the news
@danielgriffiths87549 ай бұрын
Well I am shocked that Alaska has bought Hawaiian but I am not surprised because I think if they didn't buy them then somebody else would but as for keeping I think they will do in the long run
@iceman96789 ай бұрын
Think of the improved Alaska/Hawaii Air Cargo!
@RN-DNP9 ай бұрын
Oh-no! Please say it ain't so. Eventually, Alaska will rid itself of the Airbus aircraft as it did after acquiring the former Virgin America, forcing customers to fly inside the cramped 737s. Moreover, service standards and routes will decidedly decline and/or disappear; and competition and fares to Hawaii, in particular, will fall and rise. Terrible, just terrible.
@trimule9 ай бұрын
Nah! Just like when Continental took over United- everything was immediately upgraded and only the best and most advanced practices and products were retained.
@leezinke43519 ай бұрын
I really hope they don’t merge..
@ValkyrieMagnus9 ай бұрын
I live in Seattle and use both airlines. Alaska is great for my flights around the west coast and to Florida. When I go to Hawaii I fly Hawaiian Airlines. Alaska has always been the little airline when I was a kid but they have grown into a large airline. I like both airlines and I hope Hawaiian Airlines keeps their identity as a separate airline but still part of the Alaska umbrella.
@toshi92787 ай бұрын
Now, I think have two brands one with Boeing and the other with Airbass is a good risk hedge.
@Deedeemegadoodoopoocoo9 ай бұрын
I think Hawaiian will still be around. Just a separate identity, but same companies.
@Buc_Stops_Here9 ай бұрын
All Alaska Airlines members got an email last night about this. They will keep the brand Hawaiian Airlines but closely integrate their schedules and share all infrastructure to reduce operating costs with a larger fleet. Actually, a smart merger as they have few overlapping routes. The only disadvantage I see is they are primarily a west coast airline still with flights to the east coast just across the country and not north/south as many need to fly.
@user-yj6ok5rf8e9 ай бұрын
I understand, but Alaska Airlines does fly to many cities on the East Coast, while HAL serves to the cities in the West Coast, so the flights under both should be balance, for example: HAL brings passengers to SEA and they then can connect to their East Coast destinations where Alaska Airlines flies. Same thing with the west-bound jets. I heard that HAL twice filed for the bankruptcy protections. So, my theory is that if Alaska Airlines didn’t buy HAL, then it means that maybe HAL would fold down its business. So, that is why Alaska Airlines purchased HAL, so that Alaska Airlines can let HAL to operate their business everyday. I would love to fly both of them one day.
@user-yj6ok5rf8e9 ай бұрын
Also, one thing is that I don’t like the airlines to merger into with others. Oh well…
@Buc_Stops_Here9 ай бұрын
@@user-yj6ok5rf8e Your are right. The financials are - Alaska pays off the 900 million dollars of debt, and buys Hawaiian for 1 billion dollars - total cost, 1.9 billion. Hawaiian is in a lot of trouble because Southwest is eating it up in Hawaii as it has expanded its presence and taken sales away from them. The only profitable part of of Hawaiian is their flights to Asia. This does not solve the North south flight problem on the east coast but otherwise helps Alaska stay competitive with the huge big 4 (Delta, United, Amercian, Southwest) and allows Alaskan to stay about the same size as a merged JetBlue/Sprit Airlines which does have an East Coast presence.
@Buc_Stops_Here9 ай бұрын
@@user-yj6ok5rf8e I don't disagree but only the big airlines seem to survive now. The only exception to this rule left is the profitable Frontier airlines left in Denver.
@Canleaf089 ай бұрын
Wilderness to Waikiki. I traveled with AS and liked their lounge and service.
@alfredvelazquez33069 ай бұрын
I DON'T WANT TO SEE "PUALANI" DISAPPEAR!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!💔😥
@craiggourley87039 ай бұрын
I've never flown Hawaiian, but my limited experience with Alaska has been positive - better than their larger U.S. competitors by far. I think this purchase by them makes sense in the short term, and it could really expand their reach long term.
@waikikilatino19 ай бұрын
Be reminded of the A321 Neos that Hawaiian just got! Those are brand new :)
@user-gj6ke6su4t9 ай бұрын
If these airlines merge, then it would be jaw dropping wowing to see an Alaska A330
@nickolliver30219 ай бұрын
We wont see this change. Alaska 787-9 from Hawaiian? do we see that in a few years time? Who knows
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
You won't see that.
@RashadKhanAviation20239 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 I could potentially see an Alaska 787-9 for sure. Maybe Hawaiian and Alaska can spilt the order into half, so Alaska can have their share of planes from the purchase.
@RashadKhanAviation20239 ай бұрын
I’d love to see an Alaska A330 as well, but it’s not gonna happen, but Alaska may be forced to have the A321neos again.(As said in the video)
@nickolliver30219 ай бұрын
@@RashadKhanAviation2023 It depends on if alaskan want the 787 in their fleet. If they don't then they will be separated and still have hawaiian brand
@MatheusLPV9 ай бұрын
I believe this purchase is far different from Virgin America acquisition/disappearance… Virgin was way smaller than Hawaiian Airlines also hasn’t the same legacy as HA. That’s why I think both brands will keep separated but under the same umbrela, and if in the unforeseeable future it changes, I think it will be a rebrand of the entire group, letting go the two brands for a new one as per what happened when LAN and TAM “mergered”(LAN actually bought TAM) to form LATAM Airlines Group…
@waynehagler49549 ай бұрын
I agree. I think Alaska's philosophy with the VA buyout was to kill off and absorb a competitor. There's no way that's what this is about.
@johniii81479 ай бұрын
@@waynehagler4954 Agreed. VA was about beefing of the CA presence. This now an admission they have no shot further east so they are looking to beef up the West Hawaii where they already have a lot of flights. Seems a bit of desperate move on both parts.
@hawaiifiles9 ай бұрын
Huge news all day here in Hawaii. Bottom line Hawaiian had $900 million in debt which Alaska will retire. I can see eventually both airlines having an all Boeing fleet.
@waikikilatino19 ай бұрын
I am ok with an all Boeing Fleet. I prefer Boeing over Airbus. As for the $900 million debt, I blame Ingram! He sucks as a CEO. He's no Mark Dunkerley. Mark was an amazing CEO who is missed. I had the opportunity to meet him and he's a brilliant man. He brought all that experience from Sabena Airlines!
@jarussell129 ай бұрын
Of coarse they did, they charge people 800 dollars to fly instate. They have a credit card for alaska airlines and don't even have that bank in alaska! Alot of people would call them crooks.