Top 10 Reasons Why People Hate World Of Warcraft

[@v1dCSGO]

Started 4 days ago. Yesterday I've just been doing the obvious, questing in Redridge. After some time a player who has been following whispered me saying: "Are you new?". "Yes" I said. "Let me help you" he said. He proceeded to give me 2000 gold and took me to Ironforge with a train where he told me what do buy. I bought some armor which is called "looms" Now I level 20% faster. I know not all people are that nice, but I'm really happy a player like that helped me.

[@v1dCSGO]

Jack Scarborough Yep. O can tell you his Character name. I became good friends with him after that. I'm in his guild too.

[@Keldonnation]

Jack Scarborough I've done this multiple times lol, hell I have paid people that much just to join my guild!

[@Knarksafari]

Im that kinda player. Whenever I'm nice or helping I get a fuzzy feeling of happiness. Im like that in real life too. I rarely get angry and Im very forgiving. Sometimes I wonder if some people enjoy being assholes...

[@RNS_Aurelius]

The Shanker I tend to help out new players too, boosting them through dungeons so they can level faster

[@neglesaks]

The Shanker NIGERIAN SCAM!!!

[@Durgenheim]

lol, I always used to hide playing back WoW back in high school. Then during senior year I figured out that literally half of the rest of the football team was playing it in secret, and we all rerolled together on one server and miserably failed that season in football. WoW probably played a part in that. Good times.

[@TheKlyde234]

LMAO

[@Spuffy666]

Durgenheim😂😂😂😂

[@UshankaMaster]

What a story lol

[@Sunnylucy]

My mom saw wows commercials before me, bought me the game as a birthday present and said : if you get bored, I can take over ! She is also a huge fan of fantasy yaaay

[@antekokic4279]

that's cool

[@reika542]

Best mother ever!

[@Ina-zd3sl]

My brother bough the game for me almost 4 times when the time to play (im playing on computer with Legion expansion) ends and i am always like in my mind "man that's bad i won't play anymore the payment we made for one month ends today"and tommorow i check and what BOOM another month free to play and now i am in orgrimmar doing a payment in the auction house...ahh...i just LOVE WoW

[@mymixtapeislit2399]

a least your mom is open minded

[@TonyNumber9]

my dad bought me the game during BC and he was vanilla rogue raider

[@jonathandahlberg437]

How to avoid being nerfed: Play Paladin. That's it.

[@Yabbaxoraz]

Jonathan Dahlberg Fury Warrior works too.

[@jonathandahlberg437]

Karl Marx Yeah, that too.

[@l.k3352]

Love the pala and have a fury warr lvl 92 too :)

[@benyed1636]

Jonathan Dahlberg Fury warriors are the most fun, I used my boost on one and it's my favourite now.

[@venkteshprasadmayarao7265]

Jonathan Dahlberg i wouldn't say fury. i'd just say warriors. pre-cata fury was a pve only spec.

[@PixelCat]

Couldn't agree more with having a lot of fond memories of the game and trying to recapture them by coming back. I don't hate WoW by any means, but it is a disappointing to watch Blizzard just keep changing the game so much. It baffles me why they would keep downgrading the social aspect of an MMO. I will also never understand the people that are still paying for the game just to talk about how WoW is dead/dying.

[@Cyrk101]

Granny approves.

[@Erikson564]

PixelCatGamer because ppl were whinning, thats why, and ppl are now whinning cuz they did it

[@korkowow1664]

PixelCatGamer I know it's crazy, it's almost like the weirdos that pay to create a female character to seduce old guys in goldshire :O

[@harpejify]

PixelCatGamer However, WoW's subscription trend is still pretty steadily where it should be. The millions who unsubscribed were those who hadn't been playing WoW and joined just to see WoD then got bored with leveling and quit.

[@korkowow1664]

harpejify Not true at all, I for one played all though mists and quit 1 month into WOD. along with my entire RBG team :(

[@mikeuh]

If WoW took away the subscription fee, and just made you pay for the xpacs, the popularity of this game would spike.

[@miksuko]

Or a one time 30$ payment.

[@fallenhw]

+Playstation Gaming l Shooters l Rpgs l More l yah just buy tokens from auction house !

[@V3racious]

Even if that's true, the game itself would suffer. That fee ensures that we get constant support. MMOs don't thrive from in-game cash shops and one time fees. *Looks at BDO*

[@mikeuh]

V3racious I'm pretty sure if they have enough money to create a movie, an xpac every year, and those badass cinematics, they can thrive off of xpac payments and cash shops. Do you know how many people actually buy off the cash shop? If there wasnt a sub fee, there would be even more money spent on the cash shop.

[@V3racious]

Micah Lyles You need a lesson in economics. They have that money based on the existing model. When they have to rely more on putting content into the cash shop rather than in the game, they are devaluing actually playing the game. If they don't put the coolest stuff in the cash shop, they don't make enough money. When WoW moves away from a subscription, the game will die. Hence why they haven't over the last 10 years. $15/month is nothing. Get a job. Quit crying.

[@Raezioo]

I'm gonna be honest here, I really want to start playing WOW, but I know I never will. I've heard too many people say bad stuff of WOW. Like you said in the video, it's not a bad game, they just hate what it has become. That's how people are, we don't like change. And indeed, the cost is the number one reason for me. I don't like playing a game for which I need to pay monthly. I'm more the kind of guy who wants to buy a game, and play whenever I have time to play it. I have a busy schedule and I know I wouldn't be able to play a lot. I would consider playing it if they did something like Elder Scrolls Online. It used to be a monthly subscription, but you Bethesda changed it to just one purchase. That's waaaay better than a monthly fee. Or look at Runescape. A free to play area, and a member's area. Gives you the chance to see if a game is good, before subscribing to it.

[@MajinBuusni]

"that's way better than a monthly fee", in your opinion. WoW has also had a trial since it came out. Don't spout nonsense.

[@mlatchiegaming418]

im a lvl 15 warrior, first account, and i get people with full heirlooms getting pissed off and hating me because i dont know what im doing... IM LEVEL 15!!!

[@somekindofdude1130]

I feel for you, wow as well as lol have a toxic community.

[@shitforbrains6376]

Git gud succboi

[@MajinBuusni]

@@somekindofdude1130 comparing wow community to lol is like comparing a puppy to a murderous demon

[@agaeus]

Re #4: Addiction I fondly recall seeing a clip of a talk show (Tyra?) where they shredded the some kid's wow game discs as a tough love type thing. And this was well past when you actually needed the CDs, so it was completely ineffective. Such a fundamental lack of understanding of how it worked - hilarious.

[@mastercommentator9603]

LOL

[@crusadercanio]

I'd be more upset if they shredded the boxes they came in

[@3d755]

And as revenge he shredded his mother's shoes

[@FateStrikes]

The reason why i hate WoW now is because its not based on fun. All the attention goes to raiding, or just making your character stronger in general. The gameplay is not fun, its not challenging, its just pure numbers. Why do you raid? To get better gear. What do you do use that better gear for? To raid! Endless cycle, Id much rather just meet up online with friends and cause some havoc together in GTA Online or beat some challenging areas/bosses together on Dark Souls or Bloodborne. Mmo's are dying anyway. Action oriented open-world games is the future.

[@schniiger9508]

Yeah but raiding, dungeons and other content is fun, and some people find satisfaction and enjoyment in the accomplishment of finally finishing that set or getting that legendary item.

[@stephpee4545]

I thought about disliking the video, but I know you're on WoW's side, and that you are still loyal to the game, Peon, so here, take my like.

[@TheLazyPeon]

Stephan Papadopoulos Thanks bro

[@kefkapalazzo1092]

Stephan Papadopoulos not on wow side and i still give him my like lol.

[@rwolfrocks]

TheLazyPeon Great job on the video, I personally can relate to some of those reasons. WoW not going to be dead for a long time because even if other MMO's come out, the free to play ones get very broing for me where WoW always finds a way to make the money worth it. SWTOR tried competeing and failed hard later, now all the fun has been nerfed and it just made me go back to WoW.

[@LuizFernando-iv5qw]

Stephan Papadopoulos fuck you nobody cares

[@RegalAngel767]

//sees dissing of dungeon finder/ ... but what if I'm an antisocial nerd who has no interest in making friends with complete strangers or spending hours finding a dungeon group when I could be questing instead? I don't really see a problem here

[@SleepingPepper]

People who exclusively do PVP in WoW are just wasting their subscriptions.

[@thierryderp1409]

Nope i love pvp and i do pve e pvp

[@SleepingPepper]

I said exclusively.

[@thierryderp1409]

i tried to say i did it for a hole month,doing that pushed me to pve too

[@SleepingPepper]

Yeah it definitely gets tedious after a while. However it is nice when you want to break from raiding for a little bit.

[@levant05]

pvp is a big element in the game, people play the way they want to.

[@Parttous]

I played wow from the last few weeks of vanilla until the end of WotLK. I returned to the game last year and boy have I had fun. I was always more of a casual player and never really liked raids because I always felt I would screw up everything if I tried them. Thankfully cataclysm updated the vanilla leveling zones and made the quests a lot more interesting, so there is more to do in the game. Leveling is also faster so you don't have to stick around one zone and kill the same enemies for hours straight to gain a level! Doing legacy raids, either solo or with a friend, is fun. You can also earn achievements and collect mounts, pets and toys while doing them. I also like garrisons, but understand why so many hate them. Single player content isn't for everyone. All in all, wow has become more casual (raiding excluded, mostly :P). Some like it, some don't.

[@warzy01]

filthy casual!

[@Parttous]

warzy01 Hahaha, totally :D

[@OnlyRoke]

leveling being too easy is kind of a shit argument though.. if you complain about how easy leveling is, while prancing around in heirlooms, having bought the biggest bags from the AH with your massive sum of gold and driving around in the heirloom mount.. then.. just fucking don't use all of that stuff if you find leveling too easy?

[@Diavolo222]

OnlyRoke not to mention the leveling argument doesnt stand anymore. Since you have so many levels to do it is just stupid in this day and age to think WoW first-timers will spend so much leveling from scratch with a nerfed leveling experience.

[@Higgy867]

OnlyRoke I honestly find lvling to be more fun than raiding because they make a lot of awesome quest lines like thousand needles, Tanaris the plague lands and duskwood for example

[@MrPatwag]

OnlyRoke I find leveling relaxing :3, put on a stream or catch up with youtube subs and just get into the rhythm of leveling

[@skylinegta5161]

***** lol if leveling was hard no one would level alts

[@skylinegta5161]

***** It still wasn't hard in fact Wotlk catered to casuals even,try out vanilla leveling and tell me if you'll ever get the chance to try out all of the race or classes,the way leveling was in vanilla meant to be grindy which ended up in new players being exhausted half way through level 20-30,only a few could spend enough time to be able to hit 60 and try out the endgame

[@dumbperson8232]

1. WOD 2. WOD 3. WOD 4. WOD 5. WOD 6. Ganking 7. Goldshire 8. WOD 9. WOD 10. WOD

[@justsomeguy5440]

Lel

[@Anidem9]

It's simple then... We kill the old engine, and get a new one. ... I get a feeling it's easier said than done.

[@Diavolo222]

***** Using a new engine doesnt necessarily mean that people wont be able to play it if they do so on potatoes. Also, cmon even if you are playing on a dual core piece of shit with integrated graphics card, is it that hard to invest in something like a GTX 750ti which you can run only from the PCIE slot and turn any potato into a decent gaming rig. Also, it is fucking 2015 and it would be later than that when they decide to update to a new engine. If you cant afford a fucking intel i3/amd athlon 760k and a r7 370 or GTX 750 ti maybe you shouldnt be gaming?

[@gabrielcerkez8174]

*****

[@Spiritchuckpvp]

Anidem9 *cough* Source 2 *cough*

[@Domeshriek]

I have now idea what any of this stuff is.

[@Knarksafari]

They would have to remake everything although i like the idea

[@Mick0Mania]

The game not only demands a lot of money, but also a lot of time invested into it, modern games tend to do the opposite (Even Blizzards own games, such as HotS, you can pay OR grind, but not both). Everything in it is drawn out and stretched thin in order to ensure that the player has to spend months getting to the top and continue paying subscription money. As a result: -Content gets repetitive very quickly. Grinding in a game with hotkey based combat is not very appealing. You can't even commit to bursting through the game, since a lot of quests that yield necessary resources are one a day/week long cool down. You have to log in regularly, only to do the same thing over and over again... -Since spending more time means paying more money, naturally everyone tries to rush through as fast as they can. Which means If you lag behind, you will be left behind. Now my experience with the community has been generally positive, but there is no sense in having any lore If I have to skip everything just to keep up with my dungeon group. I love things like seeing my character in a cinematic, like the one where we blow up the train in WoD, but If I don't skip it then the party will get mad. -Those playing for the lore are severely punished. As mentioned earlier, time means money, so you have no time to stop and read the quest dialogues or take in the beautiful atmospheres the art team creates. In a rush to catch up with my high level friends, I rushed to lvl 90 (the cap at the time), and the experience felt so underwhelming (took me months to do BTW, I have no idea how anyone who has an average daily schedule can do it in a week, unless heirlooms really grant THAT much bonus xp). It was only after I found out channels like Dorons or Nobbel before I realized that there were many interesting stories to be immersed in. Now I know WoW requires the money it gets to keep this massive game running, but It could at least be a bit more flexible. I mean think about it: If you pay absolutely nothing, you can play from lvl 1 to 20 (and tax the servers anyway). If you buy the game, the latest expansion AND pay subscription money, you get the full experience. If you buy the game, the expansion but don't pay the subscription; you can only play to lvl 20 again. There is no in-between. Why is a f2p having the same treatment as someone who has bought the game but simply isn't paying the subscription? At least let us play subscription free in the old expansion zones and maybe include a week/month long free time to play in the new expansion If we have bought it? The whole subscription aspect is really off-putting, especially to those of us living in a third world country, and essentially having to pay thrice the money. The ONLY appealing part of WoW, is that It is WoW. The hardcore fans of it, it's popularity and it's reputation. There is really nothing in it that is worth investing that much time and money into, save from the social aspect. I feel like there used to be a time where a new player could start playing the game, meet new people, quest and raid together and have a blast, but I as a new player have missed that ride a long time ago (I started in MoP)... The game world feels barren, and to mingle with the community I am required to search for them outside of the game, which speaks volumes of WoW's failure to be a social game by itself in it's current state...

[@datguyzados6524]

Peon, will you ever do any let's plays on your channel?

[@TheLazyPeon]

Ham Gaming I'm gonna be doing weekly first impressions videos for games that I think people that follow my channel might be interested in, It's similar to a let's play but skips to the fun/interesting parts with some critique and other things, go watch my Tera video. they'll be in a similar format to that, gonna try GW2 next then Wildstar

[@xtronikskillz]

Would you be consider doing one of eve online? I've considered it but would like another persons unbiased opinion

[@datguyzados6524]

TheLazyPeon Anyway I'm looking for a new game to play any idea except Tera? Already tried it.

[@TheLazyPeon]

***** It's a first impressions, I didn't wanna research the game as it wouldn't have the same feel, I said " It doesn't seem to be Pay2Win" which at the time it didn't, maybe next time I'll spend time talking to the players in game to ask these things.

[@MoKraft]

TheLazyPeon wow dude i look up to you thats why i made a chanel :3

[@crooy2841]

BTW I sent a link to this video to Mike Morhiem and Chris Metzen,They really need to see your video and I hope they actually watch it and try to fix some of these issues. I have seen all of these issues. I have been a loyal player for 9 long years and since Cata I have seen a lot of friends quit due to 1 or more of these issues. Thanks for a great video :-)

[@theprobomonkey4510]

WoW vanilla.....Hogger the world boss😂

[@theprobomonkey4510]

I miss hoggers strength

[@jaman198]

Darkonyx lp me too man... me too

[@uJackPackage]

+Darkonyx lp Back in the day, I and 39 other brave souls made lv 1 Gnomes and Dwarves of varying classes, trammed our way to Stormwind, and ran our happy asses over Hogger. He was one of the hardest raid bosses I've ever fought. :D

[@theprobomonkey4510]

vanilla was hard but fun

[@technosushi4986]

Everyone has fond memories of playing it for the first time, huh? Then please enlighten me as to why that doesn't hold true for me. I started playing with my brother around vanilla and then tried again during Wrath. And both times, I could not get out of the starting zone as it was far too boring, it was a constant stream of 'kill this thing here a certain amount of times' or 'collect this much of a certain item that may or may not drop quickly'. The classes are not done intuitively, nor is there a quick move option to go to an NPC to sell items. Instead your greeted with 'target is too far away'. Same holds true for the combat; if you are stuck facing the wrong way when an enemy aggro's onto you, then you have to waste time turning to face it instead of the automatic correction. This was only a few things that I absolutely despised about the game, and this is being said from someone who only played Guild Wars 1 AFTER he attempted vanilla WoW and found it much more fun to play, especially when there was a neat little function that put you into a different instance when you went out into the world.. So no, not everyone has fond memories of playing it the first time, or at all.

[@RubberFacee]

Love-hate relationship with wow is like bdsm. Also, those who say WoW sucks are ignorant-no-life-lo-level-scrub-peasants. Yes, peasants. They are far away from being lords.

[@skogspotatis9412]

***** you do know that people can dislike it because they don't like mmorpgs. personally i like it but i still respect people who don't. everyone doesn't have to like the things you do. :)

[@RubberFacee]

PineConeTV "everyone doesn't have to like the things you do" UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNACCEPTABLE!

[@skogspotatis9412]

***** :D :D

[@jasonbrown4526]

***** If you hate BDSM, then your master isn't dominating you right.

[@monevmilen917]

***** Yes wow is great game, but there are other GREAT GAMES ;)

[@PsyrenXY]

You earned a sub good sir. Very honest look at what's been going wrong, and great editing.

[@Yhdyssanakoe]

Reasons why I don't play wow anymore: 1. It's boring as fuck outside of raiding 2. Warlocks were dumbed down too much

[@kefkapalazzo1092]

Yhdyssanakoe 1-warrior arent as fun anymore. 2-very easy. 3-exploration is nearly dead. 4-pvp isn as good as it was before. 5-raid arent as hard as before. game is too damn EASY.and there is nearly ZERO social aspect. oh and DAILLYSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

Jef Drouin i correct 2 sentemces from your comment, 3. exploration isnt fun because you have already explored wow, so it isnt blizzards fault. 5. mythic raiding is hard as shit, its harder than heroics were before mythic, you probably only raid LFR or normal

[@kefkapalazzo1092]

***** haha you maybe right XD.

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

***** dont even begin to talk about demo wlocks... :D

[@Skazed09]

5:45 I am one of the unlucky ones I made a warlock Leveled it up Played Destro/Affliction Learned Demo because it was the best Currently playing... didn't even look at the patch notes yet PS: someone just told me demo got nerfed and I was like alright (never seen such a demoralizing nerf) -25 -25 -25 -25 -25 I think I like destruction the best just because thats what I leveled up with and its burst

[@temjinAMG]

how much i hate those who say wow its easy, like dumb easy, you wont see them in full mythic gear and challenge mode weapons around 2200 rating on a million years lol

[@Platinum9951]

Eric Ferraro He specifically said in the video they were probably talking about non raiding/high end pvp. I've done mythic raids and all the cmodes in WoD/MoP gold, outside of instances, things like leveling and world content you could do in your sleep.

[@vkuskov]

Eric Ferraro I would like to see "challenge mode weapon" stats. No stats? Totally pointless waste of time. Mythic gear? Next tier LFR will drop better.

[@atramentousblood6853]

Kuskov Vladimir Uh... Challenge Mode Rewards are not designed to be an upgrade to your character's performance. They are designed to be very neat, awesome transmogs to use, obviously. Why the hell would they put stats on them? That's what raiding is for. And if you don't like raiding because the next raid will easily outdo the current BiS gear, then I don't know what to tell ya, cause PvP is basically the same way there. Go make a low level twink rogue or something and spend your time 1 shotting people in BG's then teabagging their corpses or something?

[@andrewlameyer2]

+Eric Ferraro The challenge mode weapons introduced in Warlords were disappointing to me. The armor sets and FLYING mounts from Mists were aesthetically appealing enough to motivate me to achieve all gold modes, however.

[@Djalmanac]

Why I dont play wow. Aside from the fact I went straight from years of Runescape (Original) to FFXI for a time. WoW -Bad Textures (Art Style was O.K but overall to me, not good enough. I can't get immeresed in a world that looks like cardboard) -Too Simple (Comparing this to FFXI at the time, FFXI offered more challenge and teamplay from the start) The reason I don't play it now -Tab Targeter (I like to aim my skills: B.D.O, Dragon Nest etc.) There is more but you get the gist.

[@moxxy1813]

Of course, An OSRS player is always the mentally deficient one. Your game fucking sucks, the gameplay aspect doesnt exist, people only play to make real life money from selling gold

[@goddessrick8734]

I didn't know there were pve servers when I started playing I got constantly trolled but eventually grew to enjoy the possibility of pvp at any time. What made me hate the game at times was being excluded from raiding because I wore full conquest instead of pve gear. This was BS to me because to get the better pve gear Raiding was the only way to do it and even if I played well during a raid the moment I was noticed wearing pvp especially with a raid groups that kept wiping I was often kicked. Even if I was high on the dps list. This made raiding a contradiction and is one of the reasons I dropped the game.

[@coyoterx6002]

Never played WoW but I played Destiny and being excluded from raids was a big part because I didn't have a ghallahorn. The nail in the coffin was when they did the year 2 thing.

[@drewberg1361]

+Coyote Rx Ah the jellyhorn... lol Destiny had a lot of idiot players, probably still does, who didnt seem to realize not everyone sucked so horribly they had to rely on a single weapon to carry them thru the games more difficult content. I used to rock a Thunderlord a lot in year one on my bubble bro, often ppl would put down my class (Titan), subclass and gear yet I fit my role perfectly and often out performed the same idiots. Point is dont let the jackasses ruin it for you guys ;).

[@LaptopmenaceMTK]

Great video, everything was spot on except for the amount of dislikes :)

[@lewisa7397]

I hate wow because Legion won't come out until summer

[@dornkthepanda]

Ikr

[@stinkmeaner2261]

that's how you get shortly xpacs is by wanting them to rush out the xpacs

[@stinkmeaner2261]

+darius “bigdaddydarel” davis shitty *

[@speltok]

It's good that its long until it arrived! Less bugs and better gameplay

[@victornguyen6847]

Well don't you want them to perfect the XPAC than rushing it?

[@wesfazzani5721]

Another Great vid peon the hot key based combat argument is one I've never understood, as I fail to see a difference between pressing 1, 2 & 3 in wow, and using keys like r to reload in fps' and X,Y,Z & A buttons repeatedly in an Xbox game. Whatever way you look at it it's pressing a button or key to activate a preset animation or event. Let the hate commence! Best of luck dude keep the vids coming, I have now boosted your subscriber ranks by 1!

[@9Manzar9]

Btw i wouldnt say that 65 is a ton of disslikes

[@TheLazyPeon]

ManzarsGaming I'm actually surprised, I was expecting at least 30% dislikes, Yay

[@64bitUnity]

TheLazyPeon It´s very simple oftenly the WoW community is rather negative, so when you tell them some legit reasons/arguments to complain as they do. Therefore they are glad that you can express yourself in an articulated way their as well as on your own behalf

[@benjaminhoffeins5537]

ManzarsGaming It´s actually common thing on every internetplatform, like youtube reddit and forums etc, if you disclaim in your post/video "this will propably get a lot of hat/downvotes etc" most people who would initially dislike it, reconsider and think the poster must have been actually aware of the possible negative feedback, and would still go on post it cause of him believing it is right/relevant, and thus they actually follow his opinon. I don´t mean that this video is "bad", i highly agree with majority things said in this video, though I also think the whole aspect is a complex psycholigcal thing, but i just notice this over and over. Again I don´t dislike this video, it´s just I notice so many good posts on reddit and forums getting downvoted to shits, while the same message with the line added "this will probably get me a lot of dislikes and hate" gets massive upvotes.

[@9Manzar9]

Benjamin Hoffeins Is that a disclaimer for my statement or do you just want to tell me something?

[@benjaminhoffeins5537]

ManzarsGaming I just wanted to explain the phenomenon as it is no surprise this video did not get as many dislikes as "expected"

[@gchatz6480]

my reason is almost what you refered to as "cost". sorry, but its no cost, is pure milking. blizzard makes you to pay the base game (fair enough), a monthly subscription (normal back then), all the expansions (greedy, but ok), and they included a ingame store (sub+shop=wtf?) i really find blizzard disgusting, its one thing being a company and needing funds, and its another skinning alive your loving fans. imo everyone who loved the game enough to put up with all these crap is a hero and a fool. a hero because you did everything you could to stay loyal to your game and that is what a true fan should do, but in the end blizzard with all their greediness and milking left you out looking like a fool. wow had an amazing community that blizzard did not deserve

[@xxJOHNLIKESPIExx]

Dungeons have felt like a joke since MOP???, seriously, dungeons were are joke back in wrath, I mean bc they weren't that hard, now the heroics for bc were hard because you actually had to use your brain and abilities but they weren't massive difficult, only difficult to people who pugged.

[@crusadercanio]

at least we had more of them though.

[@mymixtapeislit2399]

dungeons have been a joke since heirlooms were put in the game

[@TonyNumber9]

cata early heroic dungeons were tough notch

[@Deavhrmordhau]

mythic 20 or above, sure it's easy

[@Vencarter]

Solid list. Its true though, many years later you try and resubscribe to see how its doing and I never find the same amount of fun. I remember calling up 4 of my friends in middle school on a land line phone and leaving it on speaker just communicate, get a group of 5 players for hogger & dead mines. Good times. Even logging on right after getting home from school gave me shivers of excitement every time.

[@TheJohnney07]

Don't have to worry about paying a WoW sub for a long time, thanks to WoW tokens. So far, have a years worth of WoW time by paying with gold. You can easily make 100k+ gold per month just by garrisons. But I hate the duel wield frost dk nerf. It was viable for 48hrs until the nerf, now they are not viable since dragon soul. :(

[@jukade5410]

And exactly do you make 100+ just from garrisons i have always beem poor in wow wich is another reason i dislike it

[@jukade5410]

And how exactly* and meen where is my writing skills

[@TheJohnney07]

Having several alts with a lot of treasure find followers. Blingitron gold missions give 4000 gold with all treasure find followers. Get that mission just about once per week per toon. Basically 4 x 4k x per toon per month. So far have 10 level 100s doing these follower missions and making crazy bank.

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

Diyar Nabati you can get missions with reward of ober 1k gold, and just run 11 garrisons on your server ;D

[@houndonthedock390]

Thank you, I had no idea wow tokens existed and I had stopped playing the game because I am shit broke. Now I can start again!

[@Azmodias]

The vanilla wow questing and how difficult it was, the social aspect, the "feeling" you had fighting mobs, having to think about how many you pull and deal with them, and your class itself was so much more satisfying. I was seriously satisfied handing in the "Stolen Silver" quest from the raptors in Crossroads - and that was a simple quest.

[@Anidem9]

Heirlooms. The only thing I like about them is that I'm able to get weapons easier. The first time I leveled in WoW, I was a paladin in wrath, and I could NOT get any weapons unless I finished quests, and rarely in dungeons because someone would usually ninja the better weapon, I must say though I don't like how the rest of the BoA gear increases xp gained. I'd like it if they implemented a way to shut off the extra xp and just get regular xp.

[@wolfshanze5980]

Anidem9 They did implement a way to level without getting the XP boost from Heirlooms... its called not wearing them.

[@cutie_lulu]

Deborah Pryce true. After 30-40 lvl 70-100 I think I have see all the zone and dungeon enough time

[@cruelcumber5317]

My problem with looms is that the high stats on them makes it annoying for people NOT playing with looms. If I just want to do a dungeon or if I'm trying to kill some quest mobs, someone with heirlooms either makes it even more of a cakewalk or makes it incredibly annoying(respectively)

[@ChuteNoris]

For me the main reason why I lost the love for WoW happened in WoTLK. As a TBC player, I believed in the system of, get t4, do t5 raid, get t5, do t6 raid and etc, a linear progression. So before WoTLK came out, I dedicated A LOT of time in putting a solid 25 men raiding team, we did Naxx and EoE and I was online for +15hrs per day. Only to find out that, that when Ulduar came out, ALL the new players could get the SAME loot and tiers that I had spent days of hard work trying to collect, in a couple of hrc runs. Made it seem like all my hard work just went down the drain. What was the point in spending hours in front of the PC, getting frustrated with wipes, trying to organize raids, missing real life events and etc, when I could just get the same loot a few months later in a day. That's where I lost my love. Anyways, that's just my opinion.

[@DavisProductins]

If WoW gets f2p ever, the numbers of players will jump over the roof! :O That's just my opinion.

[@ivandraganov9167]

I think thats right

[@Hekk.]

Ebiiiw And will lose big part of those who were paying for it for a long time

[@DavisProductins]

Kamil Jakimiak I dont see a reason why. Even those who pay know that it might go f2p some day.

[@Obantrash]

Davis Productions If wow ever gets F2P, the game will die even faster. Pacth are already rare, i don't want a F2P with content added once a year...

[@Hekk.]

Ebiiiw Yeah, sure.

[@christhjian9923]

I tried it out during TBC. Obviously it is one of the most impressive MMOs of all time, but why I don't really like the game: - Too time consuming, yet when the new expansion comes, boom - everything is outdated - Addiction among the players is far too common - For me, it's destroyed what WC was all about pre WoW and it just does not do it for me lore wise - People being toxic when it comes to even entry level raids if you should make a mistake, or if you are slightly under geared - Too much reliance on gear and waiting forever to get something good for your class/spec when raiding or PvPing

[@_yiggy]

I don't like that WoW is realy, REALY expensive to play, but i'm satisfied with private servers... Need more time to patch than original one, but hey... Atleast they are free...

[@_yiggy]

Ebiiiw it is when averige monthly earnings at your country is around 250$... And as it is x1 server (oviously XD) and you need atleast 2 months to reach 100, then another 2 months to gear up it comes out a lot just to be abeald to do real raiding. And you need to pay 50$ just to start playing... So if you decide to play it for a year it'll come out abot 150$+... If they made it like gears of war, where you pay it only once and then only pay for cosmetics.

[@taavidude]

Marko Miljevic Agreed. Sadly current WoD servers suck ass so im just playing a MoP server right now. And yeah its really damn expensive mostly, because my country is kinda corrupt.

[@_yiggy]

***** i play TBC... Don't like what they have done to tallents in MoP and WoD...

[@taavidude]

Marko Miljevic I like the new talents better. The old one was too confusing and had too much stuff.

[@_yiggy]

***** Yes, but they left more posabilityes...

[@Harukoon92]

Reason (6): Back when Wrath first dropped, Death Knights were that shiny new toy I could get my hands on. Towards the beginning when the three specs weren't exactly all that figured out I learned to love Frost Tanking, duel wielding, blowing up bodies we dropped to pass diseases and maintain aggro. It was so much fun I nearly abandoned my main. Until Blizz dropped mad changes on DKs, making Blood the tanking norm.

[@hioner8885]

Constant drop of subs? When WoD was released they re-reached 10 million subs...

[@legionlamour7742]

Hiöner But then they lost 3 million at the end of 6.1 :P

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

Hiöner Followed by the biggest sub loss in WoW's history, by a longshot.

[@Elnis888]

Your arguments are well thought through - I'm impressed!

[@srenjrgensen8696]

Lazy Peon, please slow your memes a little down, we can't read them.

[@Tyrin_Wolfinzar]

I actually do enjoy the multitude of difficulties and even when I clear it on LFR, normal, or even heroic, I strive to go back, personally and complete it on the highest difficulty (Mythic now, but Heroic back in the day) Its more or less to me, a personal challenge and a great reward when you can claim you beat a raid's hardest difficulty. Hell, just last night I managed a mythic SoO, which was a blast and while the group itself was well above level requirement, it was still neat to see the difference. LFR is nothing like the Mythic level difficulty and it actually feels different than just facerolling through a raid. You appreciate the work and the defeat of a boss is a reward in itself.

[@Donmega119]

I don't hate WoW but I stopped playing it because a weapon got ninja'd from me in Wotlk that I grinded my heart out for.

[@dennisfortner709]

I understand one of your comments very well. Certain people will only play WoW because it's popular. I remember when I was trying to fit in with other kids, so I can have more friends, and I got rejected constantly. I then started hanging out with others who had long hair because they were very friendly to me. This is back during the early 1980s, to help this make sense. I was listening to heavy metal before it became cool, and that really pissed me off. I kept telling those popular freaks to go back to their music, which was the hip hop music. Those popular freaks kept telling me that I was still a dork, I had no intention of wanting to be popular. Popular freaks are very cruel people and they love to look down on people. I understand that the original WoW players were playing the game before it ever became popular, I feel ya. I was introduced to the game from a good friend of mine. He knew that I kept getting into trouble with the law and needed something to do. Been playing since Wrath and had no intentions of wanting to downgrade the game. The difficulty kept me busy and occupied until I found a way to conquer it. I will keep playing WoW until it ends, no matter if it becomes dead meat.

[@Yuilen]

You forgot to mention the other reason why so many people hate WoW: because the game sucks and looks like shit. Also with Blizzard having a legendary reputation for terrible customer service and completely brain-dead development teams who ignore players' requests and suggestions/feedback, choosing to follow their own delusional ideas of what would make the game better, instead making it worse and worse with every expansion. WoW is running on an engine only 2 years older than Warcraft 3. Only 1 year older than Rome Total War. That's utterly ridiculous that cheapo Blizzard wouldn't invent WoW 2.0 with a new engine and much better graphics, but again this is because Blizzard doesn't actually give a shit about better quality, they just want to keep milking the cash cow that is WoW until it has sputtered its last and died. If I could have played a multiplayer version of Skyrim and not that garbage "ESO" which wasn't even made by Bethesda in the first place, then I would be playing that right now.

[@ThePolishValsion]

I can relate to #4. I only started playing WoW after getting a code from watching a Warcraft movie. It's been 4 months since then, and I really enjoy the game.

[@thanos5497]

Maybe it's a flawed game and not some godly creation like you think it is

[@TheAquaAuthor]

not possible. Explain why it's been a leading mmo for 10 years and has been alive for 11.

[@discofoot6443]

I completely agree with you on the social aspect. I remember when grouping for Heroics helped build your reputation with other players in the server. The LFG feature is very convenient though.

[@DainnGreywall]

I agree with the warlock one as i am a warlock main and i have been playing demonology since Cata and even been doing heroic/mythic raiding with said spec since then..... And since they nerfed Destruction in 6.0 and now demo in 6.2 the only viable spec so far is affliction... and lord knows how i fucking hate affliction... it is such a boring spec to play, and it's the only damn spec that does enough damage for me to be viable for my raid team. It's annoying as hell hells.... IF they were to buff demo they should've at least buffed destruction a bit -.- even though destruction is a boring as hell spec as well, it's still much more fun than affliction.

[@seralthi4110]

I don't undestand why blizzards nerfs stuff so much always can't they like watch dps meter while balancing so that there would not be so big differences. It can't be that hard in other mmos for example all classes always have more viable builds than one and few days ago they remade the whole talent system and now pretty much all archetypes of all classes are viable. If other companies can do balancing why can't blizzard.

[@hollowman4718]

Dainn Greywall Destro was only nerfed due to how OP it was in MOP, I still play destro now because who doesn't love sending chaos bolts out

[@nikolapetrov5808]

And I was playing a shadow priest back in WotLK. Now no one will take a shadow priest.

[@DriftNick]

Dainn Greywall Destro is the top spec for warlock on most fights in HFC and Demo is top on Kormrok, if you aren't really in a hardcore progression guild you could still raid as any spec and do fine, I just wish they would change rain of fire back to how it was before it got nerfed at the start of WoD as it made Destro a lot more fun to play.

[@BattousaiHBr]

Dainn Greywall i've seen method playing destro though

[@joakimjohnsson1020]

The "image" on 03:34 - 03:36, what instance is that, totally forgot, it is so awesome!

[@CynicalGamingBlogTerry309]

You forgot to mention the biggest reason why people hate WOW: THEY FUCKED UP THE LORE BEYOND RECOGNITION!!! Plus it essentially killed the RTS series of games and a lot of people loved them.

[@randjan8592]

Well, that's one of the biggest reasons for me, but I have met many many people who don't really care about the lore or don't know anything about it! Some people say they can't take the lore seriously, I don't know do they hate it, or they don't care too much about it, but still acknowledge it. Some people also say "What? Ragnaros? Who is that?". I heard that a few days ago...

[@CynicalGamingBlogTerry309]

Randjan Of course people don't take the lore seriously... because WOW made the lore a joke. Before that though the lore was pretty good. The books written about pre-wow lore were also pretty good for the most part. The fact that WOW is an MMO doesn't help the lore though, they had to put the night elves into the Alliance and the Forsaken into the Horde even though in the original lore they were independant factions.

[@Ryan-vf2fx]

Yea idgaf bout lore i play for the gameplay i skip as much dialogue as possible

[@Chikkolle]

As a roleplayer, main reason for me still playing wow is that it got an RP community. Most new games don't, and if there is a roleplaying community one has to share spacce with non-roleplayers, meaning tons of trolling and hateful whispers while the RP goes on (Guild Wars 2 for example). It can also be extremely hard to get into said roleplay communities because they consist of a tightly knit group already that isn't really interested in letting anyone else in.

[@blyjd91]

People who havn't tried WoW have the stupidest reasons for not liking it.

[@spidermanfan2099]

Literally started playing last night after watching a few of your vids. Haven't played an MMO since OG CoH, but it's got that same feel... I'm enjoying it so far.

[@aquahexlive]

I wish they would create a WoW 2. Maybe with a combat system like DCUO? Giving us the ability to block, perform other attacks with our weapons. Better graphics. I'd just want them to keep the zones and the races the same.

[@aquahexlive]

The Wreckoning Not if it has the exact same lore. It would essentially be the same WoW just with a few major updates.

[@ashwath5733]

They were making a WoW 2 but canceled it

[@dunezday]

that was Titan, Titan was most definetely not a WoW 2, it was meant to be a futuristic mmorpg, but its assets were then used for overwatch

[@kingmatt2563DABEST]

+ZSXBliTZ No Online Starcraft game then.

[@mikeplaysjazz3487]

Sehena Falconi. yes definitely, it would be awesome if they can combine dcuos combat system, lol imagine tumbling with a big ol tauren XD

[@brandonbrosamer7252]

yeah i agree with the warlock nerf cause when that patch came out i really enjoyed my demology warlock but when the patch came out my warlock did half the damage it did before made me really sad, so now i had to make a second spec and its a destruction warlock. good job on the video bro really liked it alot and agreed with alot of the stuff you talked about

[@GeneralSantucci1st]

Wtf was that giant troll in stormwind?!

[@madshfs]

***** a toy :3 i think

[@8901kloip]

Game master having fun

[@herryfrd2740]

Very well put together video. I left due to subscription and I was a pvp'r. If you were hardcore about a specific spec and you grinded pvp gear for that spec for months just for it to get nerfed and no one wanted to queue with you because of the nerf it just ruined it. I couldn't get into raiding after Wraith, something about spamming the same few buttons over and over (especially if you were a healer) and then moving every few seconds just for a small chance to maybe get a new piece of gear became extremely mind-numbing. The cost. There is just so many other things I'd rather spend $15/mo on. And as I'm getting older, though I have the time to put into WoW, there's just so many other priorities in life that I doubt I would get my moneys worth it playing time. Finally, it's just gotten boring and old. It's the same 5-6 types of quest chains done over and over again. There's 0 difficulty to leveling. As a pvp'r having essentially the same bg's since Wraith has gotten REALLY old.

[@BadmanTurns]

I don't like people that don't like wow

[@teardowndan5364]

I loved WoW, played from late BC to mid-Cataclysm. What I really did not like however is how unforgiving players are when you take a break for a few months: if you aren't there for the few weeks of new heroics and raids to learn them while they are still new for everyone, critics can be ruthless. The most fun I ever had in WoW was when I rushed to level cap in Cataclysm and the LFG queue was full of driven players eager to die learn all the new pulls and bosses. Lots of dying and repair bills but nobody expects an easy run when the expansion has only been out for a week. One of my friends lent me his account so I could level some of his characters through MoP and be ready for Draenor. When I started doing some LFG to get him some half-decent gear, I got a cruel reminder of how much it sucks to be the only one in the group who has no idea of how the dungeon goes and that pretty much killed my interest in going back to WoW unless the monthly fee is either abolished or drastically reduced.

[@69lol69]

Wow had an epic mediavel style nowadays look like kungfu panda, pokemon, toystory neon shiny mounts... fuck that

[@aickavon]

69lol69 WoW's style was always a mixed one (gnomes and goblins being steampunk for example and the damn troll zones and regions) and the crystals of neon were always in the game, heck they were apart of warcraft before WoW made it's head show. Blood elves man. Besides, there's nothing wrong with variety, ever. Just needs to be fleshed out properly.

[@argusodescriador3504]

Spook Daddy Q

[@michaellyons7944]

wow has good artist and looks good without hemorrhaging your computer on the typical computer that obviously does not have very expensive graphic accessories.

[@MrVividShadows]

I tried wow for like and hour and hated it.. 4 years later, I tried wow again for another hour.. hated it.. current day, im laying in bed thinking dam I should give wow another chance..

[@justsomeguy5440]

Dew itch troi eet agoin

[@MrVividShadows]

The Fearless Gamer yes. currently am trying it again.

[@justsomeguy5440]

do you like it so far?

[@MrVividShadows]

The Fearless Gamer im not really sure?

[@justsomeguy5440]

+MrVividShadows ok

[@GWOTvetx4]

Garrison added a easy ice breaker when talking to players you have never meet. In a garrison you can't have it all and people make group finders just so they can visit other people garrisons. In the past the social interaction was this "whats your DPS/item level?" "over 9000" "inc inv" Now people are actually talking about story line, follower choices, building choices. Raid finder is what saved WoW from going under, at the end of WotLK. In that same time frame there was tons of MMO's hitting the market and all them have gone free to play. WoW made a never bad move by making all raids,10 man 25 man, share locks out drastically reducing the guild size from 100s of players to just a hand full. Leveling is easy in a way to balance the game..... if you feel your class/spec was nerf to the ground level something new and be raiding at the same tier in about a week. As far as "WoW is dead" the fact of the matter is WoW subs have gone down but all subs of all MMO has gone down. In the past WoW had 75% market share of sub based MMO's now WoW has 90%+ market share some game has lost 100% of the player base, WoW has not. To put it simple there used to be 200 people playing MMO, and 150 of them were WoW players, now there is only 100 people playing MMO and 90 of them are playing WoW. Cost is zero, it just takes 30K gold for 30 days of game play. You can make 30K really fast.

[@LordSheog]

+GWOTvetx4 Whenever people talk about WoW being dead I think the fact that they can still afford to have a subscription where just about every other MMO has gone f2p speaks for itself

[@GWOTvetx4]

Saltharion For realz, in the past WoW was 60% market share of subbased MMO, now WoW is 97% market share of su-based MMO.

[@thevlaka]

everything after WOTLK ruined WoW. Don't deny it.

[@TheFreek753]

Vlaka Your childhood ended after Wrath. Don't deny it.

[@thevlaka]

Bracken my childhood ended when i turned 1.

[@aickavon]

Vlaka Cata? For sure. Panda? Not necessarily, it took two steps forward, one step back. Draenor? Yes and no. Maybe, so? We'll see what future patches have for us.

[@thevlaka]

Aickavon the Techpriest can't argue with pandaland smearing shit all over the franchise -_- At least Cata gave us flying in Azeroth :P

[@aickavon]

Vlaka cata's only redeeming quality was garrosh hellscream.

[@YoshiSimi]

Some of the aspects I'd love to have in the game: - leveling should take waaay more time and it should be more beneficial to play in a group The feeling of reaching the max level should be something special and nothing you could do within a day. - the lfr function should be replaced. This would even work in the low-level instances, because there would be more people questing and leveling on that level. - epics should be rare: the value of an epic should be increased. Receiving an epic means nothing nowadays, because you can get one in hc 5man raids, which arent difficult to complete - open pvp - skill points every level: it would go along with the slower leveling. Receiving a skill point every single level-up is just an other bonus and it feels good to "improve" the character

[@dunnobutwayne]

to bad they cancelled Titan... could have been a game changer or a preparation for one days wow downfall

[@wowderro5736]

+dunnobutwayne or did they...*xfiles theme song plays* actually im serious theres a lot of rumors about it just being reserved for when wow trulyy does die.

[@wowderro5736]

Yeah titans probably going to be salvaged and they'll make a world of starcraft out of it or something. Also, there has been leaks about a 4th warcraft rts so maybe they'll swap around

[@atlus3669]

Nah, Overwatch was made.

[@Ashtora]

#10! I know exactly how that feels. My dad has never tried WoW and refuses to play it no matter how many times I insist, because he thinks he would hate it. And ever since Cataclysm I've been seeing the game getting easier and easier, maybe to make it more playable for children (which has succeeded, since my 5 year old brother leveled a character to 100 without any help). I, for one, think that's sort of ridiculous. I still like the game as it is, but I loved some of the more difficult aspects of it back in wotlk or even BC and vanilla.

[@potatodeathclaw1036]

Rpers like me don't care about the patches as long as they have cool transmog armour

[@deezportz]

Great video!!..you hit it on the nose..I find myself logging into sometimes just for memorys..fly around,help noobs,try and hold a horde base,and join a shitty premade raid..Yea..WoW has seen better days,but I'll be around til it's dead..

[@Sladverr]

people say the game is too expensive, but they will spend hundreds on CSGO and League. lel

[@MZBallistic]

7:43 Thank you! I hate how much hybrid classes complain about PURE DPS classes.

[@Sasaroly]

Dropping the price for the base game and old expansions was a smart move, that's what got me into the game after years of wanting to but getting scared off by the steep entry price

[@ChaosinFull]

I think my disinterest in WoW started when they changed the talent trees...but I stuck around. Then the removal of resilience gear and abilities from most classes were just the final nails in the coffin. I miss the older talent trees and I actually miss that button bloat.

[@o0TheComedian0o]

Hit the nail on the head!!! I had stopped playing WOW at the end of Ulduar. Then bought Draenor and re subbed to just quick 6 months later. It's just not the same and never will be.

[@money66666]

Reason 8 killed it for me. I remember doing normal raids such as icecrown and it was so much fun. I remember doing the boss for the first time and it felt epic, now it feels terrible. In LFR people are actually timing how fast we can finish it, flex was a good idea but for my liking it became too easy. It would be nice to see a flex system that scales but with normal difficulty , it would persuade me to come back

[@eetu4942]

4:08 where did you get that art? That card art was not even shown for many months

[@rumbleshakeskin]

My number one reason why I don't play WoW anymore is this... I literally fall asleep when I play it. PvP was the only thing that didn't make me sleep as much. I don't know why!

[@skywalker00700]

The ONE and ONLY reason I don't play WoW was the subscription based game. I'm too poor for one and also I believe if I spend the money to buy a game I shouldn't need to continue paying them for every month, makes me want to rush as fast as I can to max level to make use of my money. So I play GW2 and love it, its a very casual game with great continuing story and graphics and community. Very cool to go to any of the main cities and start talking about... cats for example... and 10 other people will join in for almost hours because the community is pretty awesome. Also you made a video on GW2 and rage quit'ed the PVE, which you are right it is lacking, but the combat and exploring is amazing in a beautiful world... which everything and anything gives you EXP. BTW as an old player of GW2 I recently got a Ranger from lvl1 to lvl80 (cap) in under 2 weeks :) I've got 6 out of 8 characters to max level

[@Atogatog-j9v]

I love going solo in WOW, it is better than dealing with some player yapping in your ear that you need to help in some raid.

[@MrSkullHead1250]

I never played WOW. I played a free trial a while back, then went back to Star Wars The Old Republic. I am currently giving it another go. I know It is old and what not, but that does not bother me. I just want to experience this still living relic, and so far I am enjoying it more than I did during my trial days.

[@teejaynumber13]

The reason I hate WoW (and all MMORPGs I have ever tried), well you said it in this video. "It's a game that never ends." Having a story, characters, a villain, and a final boss are all extremely important to me in a video game. Without these things, any time I've spent on the game just feels like a huge waste (especially if I have to pay a monthly fee for it).

[@GothicElf68]

For me it is the grind. Once you get to max level before you can even THINK about raiding or pvp, you have to gear up the hard way, buy doing faction grinds to get gear. Granted, this for me personally, as back in Burning Crusade. I ended up quitting the game and only playing sporadically during Wrath and Cataclysm. I finally got sucked back into WoW after WoD was released, Decided to give it another try and leveling up was a joke, even without heirlooms I was at level 20 in a day, level 30 a couple days after and the only reason it took me a long time to get to max level was because I am an alt-alholic and can never stay on one character long. On top of this, after letting me fly in literally every other zone once I hit 60 and could get the flying mount , Blizz decided to make everything in the WoD xpac a no fly zone... After receiving a boatload worth of negative feedback on the no flying in WoD, they pretended to relent and came out with their massive achievement thing that required a bunch of other difficult grind based achievements in order to get. The entire idea of that just really killed it for me. If there is anything I cannot stand in a game, it is faction grinding where you have to do the same quests every bloody day to get the item(s) you want / need. It is slightly more acceptable to get a fancy mount, but to get something you should have anyway, like the ability to use your flying mounts, or to obtain the gear you need to continue with the actual content, really pisses me off, and it pretty much destroyed the fun I was having before I hit the WoD content. The thought of having to either spend the necessary hours grinding to get the mega-achievement to fly in WoD or having to stay on ground mounts while taking alts through the content for was a loose loose scenario, and I quit the game, forever. Nothing can suck me back into WoW again, not even the prospect of playing the new Demon Hunter class that will be introduced when Legion is released.

[@stefanw2500]

I'd actually would hope for a World of Starcraft rather than a new "WoW 2". Imaginære that, three faction, a space and planet type game like Wildstar, but of cruise more awesome.

[@dylanS400]

I miss the insane arms warrior DPS. I only enjoyed cata because I didn't only have a fun spec, but I murdered recount with the dps. Started playing after a long leave and it didn't take long to go from iffy about the game to raiding and then to grinding heroics. And once I got my hand on the heroic Garth...PVP wasn't anything either. Until I dueled a ret pally with the same weapon that is

[@musicofMEC]

A ton of dislikes no way man. The truth deserves a thumbs up.

[@Soulsnatcher89]

I've given FF14 a try since I got it at Gamestop for $5 cause you know, points and all, so 30 free days to try it out, gave WoW a break during the time. I'm now loving FF14 for a number of reasons, two reasons being A) FF introduced me to RPGs and B) Nostalgia classes. The game also seems to have a more in depth combat system too, just my opinion. I still love WoW but after playing it since Vanilla, I think I am done with it, but I do want to keep up with lore either way.

[@jaybee.tube8634]

I loved the music choice for the "It's Too Easy" one :) lol

[@LaxHead14]

I think another attribute that can be contributed is most people choose their specs/talents based on what the internet says is best and don't experiment on their own and play what they like best. This leads to less variety when pugging because everyone of a certain class is going to be the same spec/talents, just different gear level and personality.

[@michaelcook4753]

I have been playing wow on and off from beta, the main reason I left the first time was the expansion cataclysm, the group finder, and most of the friends I played with left for other game. I hated group finder because I feel it took away from guilds, and reasons for people are in guilds. I came back for panda and leveled my monk to max level in 4 days, my first character took me 6months. It really made me sick. I will keep coming back for each expansion, now I have found it hard to come back, guilds that survived the group finder raid only with each other, because they know each other, and have been playing with one another for years. I started playing again after a 3 year break, in the week I have come back I have been in 5 guild, 4 were created and vanished after a few days, the only one to have survived is an older guild, but now only has 5 active people out of 800 on the roster. I am thinking about just rerolling on another server, because I can't afford the 30$ per character.

[@josephjenkinsjr.2507]

As far as it being easy to level, I can understand why Blizzard would make it easier for two reasons. 1. It takes a long time to level all the way from level 1 to 100 without the heirloom gear and other perks and I feel that one main reason why leveling becomes so easy because you all too often out level the content. A quick fix to this would be to get rid of the extra 40 levels and reduce the levels back to 60 and reduce the amount of quests within a quest hub and boost the amount of experience for the quests to the point where you have to complete almost all of the quests in a given zone before moving on to the next. 2. Most players want to hurry and get to the end content and loot because that's where the meat of the lore and gear is. Quick fix, make leveling story and gear matter. Make a great story out of leveling quests and when a player completes the quests in a given area, let there be some real visible changes. I don't mean just phasing the zone to appear different, I mean something more aesthetic like having city guards proclaim you as a "savior" or be recognized by the citizens as a hero. And let the gear matter, be more useful, and visibly appealing (in case players want to keep it for Transmog), while leveling back in TBC (the exception would be certain vanilla pieces) I felt like my gear was pretty much useless and it wasn't particularly spectacular looking. Many want to feel like a hero and be able to look like one too and the only time one begins to feel like that is after they reach max level. As far as Group questing is concerned, Blizzard got rid of it because of phasing; but lets face it... It really wasn't all that good anyways. When I was leveling, it was a big pain in the backside to get a group together to do group quests. Spamming general chat in the area or trade in the cities was almost as bad as spamming for heroics in chat. I don't agree with bringing them back and am glad that they are gone. Instead what Blizz could do is add some kind of incentive to group up and/or run dungeons. Something that isn't forced but something that would get players to want to group up and socialize. I think that if Blizz would make these changes, it would help out a lot.

[@shadybratthehallowed4988]

I like LFR because it builds my courage to want to do normal raids. I've actually tanked a guild raid once because I watched my dad do it and wanted to try it too. I'm healing in LFR and plan on healing in normal raids within the next few weeks

[@MisterVicePresident]

I had a similar experience growing up. My parents were okay with me playing games, even WoW, as long as it was no more than an hour a week. The main reason for this was that the two of my friends who I played with and who'd introduced me to WoW weren't very successful in school (at least according to their insane standards). To give you an idea, at the dawn of facebook, my friend created a "Save MisterVicePresident from his parents!" facebook page which got over 100 likes in the first day. At one point they made me quit because they couldn't tell whether or not I was playing the game whenever I was on my computer (alt-tab pro), and they managed to lock my account. I eventually found their password (okay, maybe I was a little addicted but, an hour a week, seriously?) and was able to get my character up to 70. In the middle of my first and only Karazhan raid, my mom walked in, freaked out, and took my computer away. Sad day. It was only in college that I was able to start playing again.

[@vodyannoi]

I enjoyed the video thank you, been playing WoW since 07, I take breaks but always come back. I don't hate it, I do think it's getting a bit rough around the edges. Looking forward to Legion tho.