Ashes Of Creation: Biggest MMORPG Update So Far?

[@TheLazyPeon]

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[@sleekantonio1990]

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[@petermoore2897]

use to like u but now u just suck up to anyone who gives you enough $$$$$

[@barbatoschannel]

😂

[@barbatoschannel]

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[@Saintphoenix86]

So i hear you are pushing for SEA servers, please though push for both SEA and Aus/NZ, in the games ive played on SEA servers the lanauge barrier is a huge problem as SEA countries dont speak english

[@linkblink608]

i hope im still alive when this game release

[@TheLazyPeon]

Me too bro, I remember thinking to myself back in 2021 during Alpha 1 "Surely the game will be released within the next 3 years" 🤣

[@Lightfu11]

old joke. not even funny anymore.....

[@jxstified7558]

@@Lightfu11 Is it a joke? People die everyday brotha

[@msbabycakes]

My friend's brother was looking forward to this game. He used to talk about it a lot on our discord. He passed away last year in a car accident, he was only 30

[@spookyclaws5350]

@@msbabycakes Yup, you never know when it happens. That's why for games like this that take ages and dont have any guarantees, i just forget about them and find a new video like 2 years later and im like "oh cool, anyways back in the trash you go for the next 2 years" then rinse and repeat. Don't be excited about stuff that has no guarantee of even coming out.

[@laffertyj55]

Great job breaking down the tech stream in a meaningful way and not spreading misinformation like asmon did because hes too ignorant to watch the actual dev stream.

[@LovelyRising]

Seriously dude, he’s pissing me off lately. Can’t even give the devs the respect they deserve, so he just reacts to a react. Lame as hell.

[@techpappee]

He’s overhyped imo. Lately the majority of his ‘content’ is commentary on others actual content. He doesn’t even have fresh ideas. Why bother I guess when you can just use someone else’s.

[@LovelyRising]

@@techpappee Seriously, the originality of his content has gone way down recently. He’s been reacting for a long time, and for a while, they were usually pretty decent watches, but lately it’s just been a bunch of reacts to random BS, culture war BS, or streamer drama BS that basically all equate to brain rot. Anyone who watched him in the past knows he’s a remarkably intelligent guy behind the basement dweller facade, so it sucks to see him continuously pump out garbage like that just cause it gets views and it’s easy to get reactions from on stream without even really saying anything meaningful.

[@Roweyy]

He's a good bloke

[@LovelyRising]

@@Roweyy It’s just a result of obtaining such a large audience. He rushes through a lot of stuff that he *could* be using for content, because people shove so much stuff in his face. There’s no way to see it all, and for whatever reason, a lot of people like upvoting the kind of BS react video fodder I mentioned before in his Reddit where he finds stuff to react to every day, so that’s the stuff he ends up picking to make content with. I think he either saw the original video (and the runtime) and decided to react to a 20 minute narc video instead, or he just straight up didn’t have the time or energy to care about looking up the real video after seeing the narc one pop up. Brain dead chatters and Redditors would rather see him react to why men are lonely for the 50th time, or hear him say the same shit everyone else does in response to another semi-famous person no one should really care about “maybe” being a pedo. It’s either that, or playing shitty P2W games like 85% of the time.

[@keremakyuz1839]

5:47 that was some harry potter shit. loved it.

[@N1ghtR1der666]

star citizen in the corner wringing their hands nervesly

[@Carponchia-z8k]

If WoW and Everquest made a baby and she never gave birth.

[@TheLazyPeon]

LMAOOO

[@Nyeusi]

Nah it’s more like guild wars 2 and EverQuest. There’s nothing like wow in this

[@coupdegracetm5090]

​@@Nyeusino wonder she never gave birth

[@-Bleriot-]

u mean lineage 2 and archeage XD

[@SubduedRadical]

I believe you're forgetting Eve Online's one of the grandparents. (Eve more or less pioneered the "carve out territory, build stuff there, and do PvE stuff with PvP overwatch" in MMOs.)

[@jondoe7194]

I'm not really a gamer anymore but the work and time these devs have put in to this game is astounding. I will be playing this game when it come out. This type of development needs to be rewarded.

[@WholeBitThe]

you never quit mate, you only take breaks. Come back to us brother

[@pvprangergod4024]

the work and time, like generic fetch quests? lol

[@deano93517]

Come back the gaming community needs you!

[@metavita6261]

@@WholeBitThe true

[@jesperburns]

@@pvprangergod4024 And you know this because you've extensively played this unreleased game of course.

[@ImmortalityV]

Ah yes, a Peon video about ashes. All is well

[@carobcoca437]

Still shilling for a sketchy "successful in real estate" guy that previously scammed cancer patients with health products, had a terrible reputation in Archeage, and has been selling massive amounts of cosmetics and $250 early access. Steve is a slick talking sketchball and is laughing at the fools giving him money. Star citizen and tarkov have more integrity.

[@ImmortalityV]

@@carobcoca437 sure buddy

[@carobcoca437]

@@ImmortalityV wait another 4 years and see lol

[@ImmortalityV]

@@carobcoca437 still less time than star citizen /shrug

[@Soskot]

Just a heads up, Ashes of Creation will not be feature complete by the launch of Alpha 2. It will be feature complete towards the mid-end of it due to the alpha 2 running parallel with beta 1 and 2 that will come closer to release. Just wanted to put this out there so people don't expect the game to be feature complete the moment the alpha launches and then ends up being disappointed.

[@theknifesong]

daddy gave you good advice

[@jessepotter365]

I can't wait for alpha 4 in the year 2030.

[@TheLazyPeon]

Alpha 5 is when things get REAL interesting though.

[@furglii]

Star Citizen or Ashes of Creation? What will release first? FIGHT !

[@emptywhy]

This is the last alpha and it's going to be persistent all the way up until launch and then it will become the test server post launch, it has been stated that Beta 1 & 2 will be considerably closer together when compared to alpha 1 & 2 , very short and close to launch, as the game will be essentially finished at that point, just in it's final polish stage. I can understand why they want to be vigilant with the testing, they want the perfect launch, which as we all know is very important, mess up the launch and it can be devestating.

[@the.real.dwight.schrute]

@@TheLazyPeon 2045 then

[@Hat_Uncle]

I love these jokes. I can even understand people not paying attention making them, since they are funny. A2 Sept 2024, B1 Nov. 2025, B2 May 2026, Release Aug. 2026.

[@no_alias_for_me]

The spell effects definitely need to emit light - otherwise it looks kinda weird that in the darkness nothing gets illuminated by fireballs and lightning strikes.

[@LordLOC]

I swear during that segment of the video that I was watching WoW Remastered or something. It just looked like a better-looking WoW - literally. Sure, some of the spells look different but the way the land looked, the movement and UI etc. all gave WoW vibes. Not sure if that's what they are going for, but sure, I guess? lol

[@andrewichigo]

Yeah but also I feel that if everything is able to emit light etc, it's just gonna melt all PCs the first time people find themselves in a large scale battle

[@no_alias_for_me]

@@andrewichigo Well you can just turn these effects off if your PC isn't strong enough. Isn't that what every game developer does? Give the player the choice if he wants to play at Ultra settings or Low settings.

[@danw3735]

@@LordLOC I guess you didn't see the word alpha in the footage.

[@Tryolz]

They recently confirmed in a KZbin comment that they are adding light elements to more skills. (Some already have them.) Not all of the skills will emit light though.

[@vakosh2796]

Star Citizen has been working on server meshing as well. Hopefully these games can pull it off

[@seveneternal7988]

aoc uses a very simplified version of the SM though

[@goobydntfear]

not has been working on, they already have it

[@yeawhateverdudesure]

Already have it

[@lukeit7949]

​@@seveneternal7988 sc just has static server meshing, everything else is just wishful thinking for sc

[@alreawon1212]

Star Citizen will never release. Few months ago was a playtest and it was literally unplayable. After 14 years of development and 700 millions.

[@maniacal1870]

I'm hoping it turns out to be everything we want, but I'm not holding my breath. Been burned too many times to remain optimistic.

[@LoveableLina]

Same for me since SWG went down in 2011 I have just been disappointed time and time again. So many devs think combat and pvp make a mmo but with Ashes they want so much more and I am excited to be able to life main and do nothing but trading and crafting and maybe be a support healer sub or something. I enjoy taking a back seat and getting to watch others make big break throughs!

[@hoofhearted4]

The thing people need to remember (and this is true for most games), is end game is called end game for a reason. it comes at the end of the game. People forget about the game itself. The leveling and exploring and everything that comes with it. Because so many people have played MMOs, we know the grind and we know the Raids, and everyone just wants to get to the Raids as quickly as possible ignoring the game. This is exacerbated by YT and Twitch streamers who game as a job. They need to get to the end as fast as possible for content, and all of that skews peoples perception of games. Dont look at a game by seeing if its "everything" you want, but does it have "something" you want. I look at this and just want some fun moment to moment gameplay, fun progression and fun skills. idc if this is the WoW killer, or brings back that feeling of 2008 MMOs or what the end game is. but i digress.

[@nordy259]

Should have a pretty good idea within 3 months of the true potential.....unless you have spot testing access then it should be within 2

[@iabaca]

Brighter shores is the best bet for the next huge mmo

[@emptywhy]

Actual reasonable take, admits to having trust issues, still wants the best for the game. It seems this is a near impossible take for most people who have been burned by past games, you will deserve the great game we're going to get 🙏

[@lilkhmer5]

Hopefully Star Citizen and AOC can solve dynamic gridding. It will most likely change the gaming landscape in terms of massive multiplayer.

[@r.daneel.90]

AOC want to use "dynamic gridding", mean, X/Y location can be split in different servers to allocate more players. SC's "dynamic server meshing" on the other hand is different, due to the scales involved. They aim to support large player counts by putting servers on "moving locations", like big space ships. Its a problem a lot more difficult to solve.

[@chriswhited]

or an excuse.

[@Hyzayn]

Just to correct you, microservices were not created by them, its a software engineering pattern being used for more than a decade. Very simplified, these are services with very specific functions. My entire companies' stack is composed of microservices

[@GTAjedi]

Came here to say this

[@WebbSM]

@@GTAjedi lets cut him some slack, for everybody that works in tech this is a no brainer however LazyPeon obviously isn't really a tech focused channel. Just a gamer trying to understand how his game works.

[@WhiskeyAfterHours]

He's not saying they created the concept nor are they. He's saying they created a custom microservices stack for intrepidnet as a matter fact

[@graikonungr7502]

​@@laranjo5999 "Intrepid created a solution called micro-services." The unfamiliar hearing it might assume they did indeed create/invent it as you've so refuted. Ultimately, not really a big deal.

[@GTAjedi]

@@WebbSM Having now watched the full tech video, one of the Devs actually says "we created a concept called microservices" so you can see where Craig got that from.

[@stephenbaker2141]

Digging that ibans staff. Cant wait for runescape 4

[@HT-jj5sx]

I didn't notice until watching your review, but Steven has 3x the health of everyone else and about 2x the mana lol. Makes sense as if he just died over and over it wouldn't have been very interesting, but something to note.

[@backstabber3537]

lmaoooo

[@Skull7Prayer]

Steven had this advantage so he can commentate and do all the talking at the same time, and not dying, cause otherwise we would watch the death loading screen all the time, and that wasnt the purpose of the stream. I also think he was 10-15 levels higher than the others and had better armor set.

[@mucool328]

Monthly Showcases are not representatives of Actual Gameplay. He is the show host or in some cases a live tester, they are trying to get feedback on other aspects, Health, CDR, Mana, Stamina are not the focus of that Showcase. Time To Kill should be accounted for other people and not Steven based on what you have stated.

[@HT-jj5sx]

@@Skull7Prayer Yeah, that's what I said. It makes sense, I just saw people complaining that he never took a bunch of damage.

[@HT-jj5sx]

@@mucool328 Yeah, that's what I said. It makes sense.

[@winterfoxcloud]

i think people who are patient and realistic about this game will be pleasantly surprised with the final product anyone who is desperate for "their main game" to fill the void in their lives will likely be very disappointed

[@emptywhy]

I'm going to main the ever living shit out of this game, and i will be realisticly and pleasantly satisifed.

[@emmerzize]

Ahh, like how people have been patient with Star Citizen? And why you gotta throw in the "desperate" part? People just want a good MMO to play, and being patient does not equal to good.

[@Mosleso]

While I do appreciate the things that they show us and are trying to be transparent, I think they are focusing on things that don't really matter to most people. Large scale pvp battles are not necessarily bad but they tend to become boring overtime, and the fact that its primarily a tab target MMORPG makes it even less exciting.

[@DoingFavors]

@@emmerzize :) found the SC sunk cost fallacy guy

[@puddingsimon2626]

ahh my main game to fill the void rn is albion, due to my long caree in there im now in a guild of ABSOLUTE BANGERS, with a nice system where i get paid (in ingame money ofc) after guild events. Every thing we do, we get lootsplits, and if you dont die too much you even make plus.

[@Veathen]

Tab target combat even in UE5 still looks ass

[@BraWayne]

The spell effects look really beautiful in this game. I hope this is the MMO we've all been waiting for!

[@BrutalFelix82]

i personally cannot wait for ashes full release in 2040, only a mere months after star citizen

[@DanyF02]

Finally some positivism!

[@ArkhBaegor]

idk this game's development feels like its moving at light speed when you compare it to SC, that "game" is never coming out (and why would it? It's literally a money making machine)

[@BrutalFelix82]

@@ArkhBaegor ashes already on like year 8, was annouced back in 2016

[@ArkhBaegor]

@@BrutalFelix82 that's really not that long, especially compared to sc

[@bryanstasko]

After Star Citizen? Star Citizen is never going to release. Ashes at least might.

[@Kiobao]

I appreciate all of the explainations of the tech side of things. It was really interesting to hear how they are solving, or at least attempting to solve their issues they foresee.

[@elias-ks6rw]

this game genuinely looks like dogshit

[@jackzera7356]

Cool, dont play then.

[@JohnSmith-nt3uv]

Should have just copied gw2 server infrastructure. Servers clearly struggling even though they haven't even reached the number of players in one area that gw2 already supports

[@Blackread]

7:01 Imagine a full raid group staying completely still.

[@sunmethods]

the Phoenix Initiative testers are a well-disciplined bunch :p

[@Whytewulfe]

that in of itself is a miracle

[@niaford690]

everybody in the raid sitting on their hands lmao

[@rohleek5939]

Still no druid class :/ we have multi thread networking but no druids.. 😂

[@captain_context9991]

However the light from his wand does nothing. Sorry but if its important to simulate proper NIGHT, then a fireball or an arcane missile, needs to light up the scene.

[@B1u35ky]

Yeah and the game should have HDR tbh i don’t know if it will though

[@captain_context9991]

@@B1u35ky These things come for free just for owning a modern graphics card, so you would think so.

[@mucool328]

@@captain_context9991 Light optimization is work in progress, plus refinement happens later in the Game Development pipeline, these are probably 40th version of spell effects, once they finalize spell effects, shadows and lighting would be done. When will they finalize on Spell effects probably after Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2 phases should have those things fixed. If they are not, then we can Complain :)

[@captain_context9991]

@@mucool328 Oh, sure. But this was kindof a moment to show off where they are currently. If they had any plans of lighting things, Which warcraft does not, then this would be a great opportunity to show us.

[@mucool328]

@@captain_context9991 Sorry but, Alpha 2 testing is going to be at least 2 years long, there will be many more versions of Spell effects, doing light optimization for something that won't be relevant 6 months down the line, is a wasted effort. Plus who knows if Spell effect Shadows were turned off for performance or gameplay reasons. I am sure most of us(Alpha2 or Beta testers) will share your concern as feedback during testing phases.

[@jj_realm7040]

2024 and the status is still "UPDATE"????????????? really??????

[@daiakunin]

Very impressive tech being displayed here. Seems very similar to what Star Citizen is doing.

[@frostytree7510]

Waiting for Asmongold to react so i know how to feel

[@anteik6439]

i have personally no issue that its taking so long, all games feel rushed lately, give them time, so we can enjoy again

[@ZeroiusProduction]

This be my take on the game. It's going to be released in 4-5 years, and when it does, it's gonna be mid at best and if it's better then what i expect, it's still gonna be DOA because it's WAY too late.

[@mucool328]

@@ZeroiusProduction If it is a good game, people WILL play, no matter when the games are released. Nobody expected PALWORLD to be a HIT based on how basic the graphics and animations were included in the game. Game had good gameplay loops and had some fresh ideas with different perspective.

[@cmoney163]

⁠@@mucool328The people that play these type of games are already pushing 40 though lol Hey maybe it will be a success but I have my doubts. If anything it will be a small niche tight nit community.

[@mucool328]

@@cmoney163 It is okay man. I am not even sure if I will be able to play the game when it launches. I am not sure where I will be 3 years down the line. But I really wanted to be part of being a Tester :), I know not the same as paid QA tester, but still I will be able to test the game and be part of improving the game in what little way I can. Plus it is a social sandbox themed MMORPG(very Niche), so I am not sure how playable it will be , but I am sure it will be Watchable. I bet there will be many stories coming out the social interactions coming out this game. Like all the Games of Thrones like Drama. There will be News you tube channels, there will be story telling channels and obviously gameplay and Guide will exists for watching this game, outside of Live gameplay streams.

[@marcocortes3279]

let them cook

[@MonkeyBusinessOfficials]

gonna be 12 more years until this game is released ima have kids and all

[@John_Conner222]

I love the technical achievements they have made but man it looks like a more polished Elder Scrolls Online. For me really deflates the excitement balloon. Its cool to see progress and I love what Steven did by quitting on playing the MMOs out there and starting his own company and actually achieving his goals after he had had enough from poorly performing MMOs. I tried to do this and failed (you just have to have a metric crap ton of money AND really good coders that work well together). I probably won't be playing it but im still glad he is making Ashes of Creation.

[@metasaurus3233]

Personally I hope it plays like the elder scrolls online. ESO pvp is the most fun I have ever had in a game, zenimax give it no attention though and put all their effort into pve. Ashes is more pvp focused so it would be amazing imo if they have a similar combat system.

[@tank1110]

Nice try… Asmongold has enough money don’t buy starforge

[@Cumbernumb]

Guarantee this game will blow up for a few months and then be dead just as quick. Nothing about this game screams super unique with its generic art style and world, and nothing seems very ground breaking to the genre

[@Skull7Prayer]

Nodes: allow me to introduce myself

[@thepepchannel7940]

I’m kinda scared of this too. It seems like a good chance on the surface, but it has to somehow create a unique identity. It all comes down to gameplay in the end

[@Chris-rn9ef]

This game has been in development for this long to look like this 😂

[@mavielor7394]

im not feeling the melee combat

[@Skull7Prayer]

i just want to see rogue's gameplay so bad for that reason. my last hope

[@mucool328]

You will probably feel when you PLAY with Audio in 2027.

[@JinglyJoe]

That intrepidnet system is amazing. My hope is that not only does it work seamlessly for Ashes but that they make a lot of money selling the system to other companies so we can get more huge MMOs like this.

[@Anonymous-st1vk]

Bro cover Wuthering Waves with or without a sponsership, video will do good

[@Gormezzz]

Second! Loving it

[@asterael1554]

honestly the game looks alright, but it doesn't really look like something new for 2024~2025..

[@Skull7Prayer]

you talk about the visuals or about the depth and possibilities a player have when plays?

[@asterael1554]

@@Skull7Prayer graphic wise

[@De2t3ny]

look at the other mmos buddy. there wont be competition for aoc anytime soon lmao

[@greatdragon_nns]

they really combined wow with archeage, perfect !

[@TheSaltyCarrot]

I follow the game pretty religously but i love these recaps you do :)

[@nwdrgn]

I hope the guild/party content make this game worth because the combat and graphics alone are truly mediocre.

[@Skull7Prayer]

I will solo the game for as much as i can, be sure about it

[@ChristopherCDaniels]

As I said last time; I watch all the live streams, and then usually review the KZbin videos 1-3 times. All that said, I still really appreciate your videos.

[@Kingmannie]

Ashes of creation didnt invent server meshing, nor did they invent microservices :) pretty cool to see the tech benefitting others though

[@TangentsofCreation]

Won't be long now! Let's gooooo!

[@kh2766]

This seems to be a lot more tab targeting that I originally thought. Did they go back on the action combat system?

[@dariciesglaciem3009]

Yes. We learnt later on that action combat was never even real. Just a promise to draw in more people. It's basically funded by a boomer who wants this game to emulate the same feelings he had back in the early 2000s.

[@BrunoRStupp]

This is basically the star citizen approach, its vary similar and likely a future industry standard

[@netramc5123]

On paper Ashes of creation sounds fantastic! But here is why I will never ever play this game. Modern day gaming. Modern day gaming entails people being socially challenged. Setting high standards for relatively simplistic content. Great examples would be World of Waracraft demanding a gear score above the gear score drops in the raid you're trying to apply to. People not seeing you as a fellow player for a fun adventurous social experience. No, people see you as a tool and the means for them to get their own personal character progression. Which is further emphasized by example 1. Toxicity, point 1 and 2 are clears signs of pure toxicity, severe anti social behavior driven by the egotistical pursuit by personal gain. The modern day gaming attitude has killed MMO gaming for years. The issue has never been disappointing games or lack of content, it's the socially distant behavior amongst player. Great examples would be World of warcraft classic, everyone had a great time on launch for a few weeks, eventually people had mains started raiding and the GDKP, Boosting drama started. Any player joining classic at a later point, was forced to either swipe their credit cards for gold or solo play all the way because the social experience went from: "looking for a group to clear Scarlet Monastary". To: " WTB BOOST SM ARMS!, WTS BOOST 1/4 LEFT 3 MIN 50G PER RUN" and naturally I will also refer back to point 1: LFM tier 1 farm, will inspect at bank, must have fully enchanted BiS T3. ( naturally the T3 is a exaggeration, but not far off from the truth). So yeah, if I want to play a RPG I'll just stick to single player RPG's the social experience is higher listening to Oblivion NPC's than dealing with all the issues above. Sure some of you will argue but just get a guild! I have a fun guild! A guild is only fun if you're part of its core members, joining a random guild these days isn't fun. You're just another statistic to the core group like an ad interim DPS or healer while the guild uses DKP. Getting ignored by the core members despite them advertising themselves as a friendly and social guild. So in short, guilds only work if you have a group of "friends" that you have known for years and are willing to play the game as well. Otherwise, they won't add anything of value to you. In fact, I feel like the node based system is going to be another incentive for the modern day gaming culture to get even more socially distant regarding guilds. You will probably have to reach certain targets for said that guild on a weekly basis or be removed.

[@hoofhearted4]

almost alpha 2 so I think we're within 5 years of launch. Wonder if they'll upgrade to Unreal 6. Im sure thatll be out before launch at this rate lol.

[@WasabithePom]

Unreal Engine 6 will not be released until April 2030. AOC will more than likely launch within the next 2+ years (after Alpha 2, and the two betas). I'm sure they are planning to upgrade to UE 6 after launch if it is feasable.

[@infintygamers00]

No, not likely. Enormous amounts of back end seems to be changed on intrepid's end. It would not be worth the effort put into porting all those changes over to a UE6 release.

[@grabeck666]

@@WasabithePom "AOC will more than likely launch within the next 2+ years" optimism leads to bigger dissapointments. This game is very, very far from being ready. The kind of far that won't be solved in two years.

[@Skull7Prayer]

@@grabeck666 I agree that the "next 2 years" is the optimistic forecast, but the logic behind this opinion is that in those 2 years the speed of development and the solutions of problems will be faster than before. Having more people working and solving "smaller" problems than before we expect WAY faster development than until now. So yeah winter of 2026 is a nice guess. Even if that isnt possible, 2027 or 2028 is kinda dead end. (2027 will be 10 years since kickstart which is a normal time moment for an mmo like that to be ready and released)

[@annonymous734]

I want epic, cringe, over-the-top looking items not "realistic" toothpick 2h swords. I want Armageddon from wow overcomplicating a game with a bunch of systems won't mean it will be good I can't be bothered by the epic wowzers skybox, weather stuff, seasons etc. It's just nice packing for a potentially bad product I'll play the game on the inevitably free trial it will have down the road

[@DerRofflers]

this shit never coming out

[@billy_cross]

Yeah, what you said

[@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1]

I really appreciate the work you put into keeping us updated on gaming in general. Thank you :)

[@freedom_fighta]

I just want a release date I'm tired of waiting for this game it's been like 8 years since it was announced.

[@WebbSM]

on the bright side though, it seems like they have been using the dev time to build pretty fundamental tech backend systems that will prevent them from having a bunch of technical debt later on they have to work through

[@grabeck666]

what's the point of giving release date if it won't be ready for it?

[@very_grey]

I'm enjoying the dream still. When this releases, it might deliver and all is good. But it could fail and then there isn't anything to look forward to anymore.

[@freedom_fighta]

What's the point of asking dumb questions when you know the answer.

[@indeimaus]

everyone make sure peon is okay when this is another failed MMO release when it hits in 2043

[@CasabianN-xr5sc]

4:52 Fireball is fucking horrible. In what game has fireball been 3 spammable projectiles? Horrible.

[@Nevario1]

Archeage, and it was fucking dope.

[@CasabianN-xr5sc]

@@Nevario1 Haven't played it. In almost every single MMO Fireball is one big hard hitting spell that needs to be charged. Pyroblast too.

[@christinkler6584]

​@@CasabianN-xr5sc This is genuinely a big enough problem for you to mention? Lmao.

[@fatvinet]

Agree, to me all magic effects looks to much flashy

[@MrLuchenkov]

@@CasabianN-xr5sc "in almost every single MMO". Calm your tits, WoW boi. A fireball or firebolt all have variations across MMOs, from FFXIV to Elder Scrolls to ArcheAge to you name it. AoC has went with a model closer to ArcheAge's - which is a small, spammable firebolt - and it worked pretty great as mages had other spells. It feels like you've played one or two MMOs and decided that their version of "fireball" (an absolutely run-of-the-mill, generic spell name) was the only version that existed. It's just a name for a spell, mate. What matters is just how it feels when we play, not what name it has. It could be named "Fire Spell #33" and it still wouldn't matter.

[@baska-]

The back-end team in Intrepid is incredible, to say the least. If they get this game right, we might finally have a new MMORPG king and Intrepid might become what Blizzard once was.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

Graphics look exactly like 2014's Archeage, but that said, i do not what some "Pretty" game that is just rubbish *Star citizen cough cough* and will take gameplay over graphics any day! Hope this game shapes out alright, but im not holding my breath anymore. The game industry has sucked for the last decade.

[@oybeutu]

Steven Sharif wanted to build a game his way and had no interest in letting the kids tears change anything. That's why I respect him. I'm a 58 year old gamer and will play til I'm dead. I can wait a couple of years more for Steven's vision and his alone. People try to show how cynical they are by doubting it which is a really weird flex. You don't have to like it.

[@ralftammiste4574]

It looks like you're oblivious to whats been going on in the gaming industry for the past couple of years. People are cynical because the industry has made them that way, with half a decade worth of scams from singleplayer games to mmos. To this date there still hasn't been another major succesful release that people have been happy about, and until that happens you're gone see alot more of that "cynicism" as you put it. which isn't cynical, to correct you, it's frustration.

[@iN_O_O_B_Y]

We are all looking for our last game

[@oybeutu]

@@iN_O_O_B_Y ​I go outside and build my stone house when I have time. I collect rocks in the mountains to build with. I'm probably more alive then some pencil necked gamer boys who cry about stuff like this.

[@oybeutu]

@@ralftammiste4574 I'm aware. Steven Sharif said from the start that he has enough money to fund the game by himself. He did take money but he warned that it's only if you want to. I do agree that the system is flawed and there are people getting rich before games are past beta and that is a big deal. I'm just biased because I like Steven's ideas and am willing to take a chance. I haven't bought in yet but I will pay $125-150 or so if I can get some fun out it.

[@DakPrescottlol]

I can't wait to upgrade with all the new amazing tech.

[@Lance_Knight]

This game will just be another shit show if most of the content revolves around zerging. All this work and features will be just another waste of time. It's funny how this was meant to be the better archeage but it's going to be worse

[@getbetterdrunky7612]

This just looks like a bad version of wow now

[@Jzone9]

You continue to always put out the best content. Every time I see an upload from LazyPeon it makes me smile, thanks!

[@rizzoid]

As someone that worked on MMO servers, we basically had the same setup that AoC is going with, and that was 5-10 years ago. I think they'll find the same thing we ran into in the end: just because your servers can handle a ton of players in one small area, most of your player clients can't, and most of the effort is wasted.

[@ginofiraza]

Not really, clients 10 years ago is exponentially weaker than clients used today. They simulated it and it worked.

[@rizzoid]

@@ginofiraza and graphics fidelity has increased greatly, this negating much of that. I stand behind my point.

[@ItsNoGoodJrGaming]

@@rizzoid I believe they said they're going to reduce the fidelity of graphics in high-pop PvP battles by using techniques like instancing to cheaply render hundreds of players as default models, having a maximum amount of active particles at any given time, etc. in order to make these battles playable on a minimum spec PC.

[@FrenesyTv]

Are they going to update the UI, animations and graphics overall ? Cause for the moment it kinda looks like a 2014 game to be honest

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

The more I learn about Ashes, the less interested I become. I’m not a fan of nodes on paper, but if it facilitates gameplay then I’d give it a chance.

[@jediwarlock1]

It's becoming a super niche mmo.

[@cls880]

@@jediwarlock1 No one wants another instanced themepark that has already made the entire genre niche

[@xReaghan]

Nodes.. no thank you another BDO rip off

[@ragnnohab]

@@cls880 There's plenty of sandbox MMOs out there. If people wanted those they wouldn't be sitting at 50 players each.

[@Skull7Prayer]

Usually the more you learn about AoC the more interested you become.

[@petardinjo]

This looks old, dull and I think all the hype people had its gone.. I am literally expecting only dissapointment nothing else... spells look A W F U L

[@sospokemika1197]

3:32 Its been turned off for some new Unreal feature that mimics naturalistic light. They should add it in the future with their lighting pass.

[@ewokpants4891]

If i need to sell a kidney to play this game, I would...even if Ashes doesnt release, the innovations they have made for it are incredible and revolutionary for the industry

[@crowork2185]

actually first, ignore andrew

[@Gannay]

Can confirm, this guy was first. Ignore Andrew

[@nordy259]

You kind of outed yourself saying his name though

[@johnnynotbegood]

The spell vfx should be toned down a bit, specially the colours are way too saturated, looks off when compared to the rest of the more realistic visuals

[@MrArthys]

My dream is for this game to be what Archeage could had been, but i dont think this game will ever launch tbh. Hope i am wrong.

[@Skull7Prayer]

Thinking the game will never launch is an unjustified thought from what we seeing the last years. Unless you know or you saw something more than us and you have this opinion

[@LangLang5689]

it looks super bad, back to 2010. GW2 still looks, feels, and designed much better

[@gentoolive]

This will go the same path as new world.. 1st month, look at all the players! 2nd month 80% have quit. 3rd month life support.

[@cls880]

This game is nothing like new world, which only focused on the experience of leveling up and ignored making anything compelling beyond that

[@cptnhero6116]

thats such a dumb take lol

[@bullymaguire9863]

it won't be as successful as new world on launch, the game has an outdated combat system, not great graphics, there's nothing to bring casuals in.

[@trojancs16]

Even worse, its tab target combat system, Fortnite graphics, undefined classes, etc. It will be a game for old people like Steven, but not for today's generation of players.

[@Skull7Prayer]

In 2nd month we will have still servers without Metropolis and players wont have seen a huge portion of the game. How can you say that they will quit. They will buy it for that reason. Do you even know what this game offers, whats the purpose and the depth that has or you just saw a video of some gameplay and you came to that conclusion?

[@Incenpilz]

Uhm did they change the lighting and the graphics a bit. (edit: Okay maybe i should just watch the whole video before writing a comment xD) In this video it looks much more stylized than I remembered? (Which is a good thing. Comic/stylized > all) pS. THIS is the type of videos why i like ur Channel Peon! Good video, thanks ♥

[@coadamolx0100]

The lighting is getting overhauled by a dedicated team and yes it's seem it's been taking or getting into its own style slowly but surely for the past dozen streams which is nice. But hey that's how developing a game works

[@coadamolx0100]

Alpha2 wont be feature complete , it will have a lot of the systems at the start but not all and some might not be finished or even in the basic version of them however by the end of the alpha2 it will be feature complete

[@ye_nope]

Combat looks like a mess, even for an alpha, the effects the animations are from 2011

[@mrbuckles283]

Fear this game will be utterly out of date by the time it releases

[@cheerguyami]

I want to think that but then you look at the 20+ year old MMOs still on top

[@trojancs16]

Its combat system is tab target, that says it all hahaha

[@echo5827]

What just like WOW? fuckin MMORPG can't go out of date what are you on about

[@lafunk1978]

​@@trojancs16 like wow and ff14 the two most popular MMOs....

[@lafunk1978]

Out of date compared to what?

[@Wholesome_Fries]

I wish ppl would stop talking about this New World copy

[@mazziecat]

Sorry but this this game just looks super rough, and I have a very hard time believing it'll magically get AAA-visuals before release

[@Takumikenji]

maybe its just me, but it seems like i need to minor in Ashes of Creations before playing so I can keep up with all the features ? its starting to feel overwhelming, but maybe this is endgame ?

[@chonkiboii]

Go at your own pace. It’s these deep systems and details that will keep the game alive after first few months. Games like New World died exactly because they didn’t have anything other than leveling and gear made for players. Steven comes from Lineage 2 and similar games where end game populations dynamics and “politics” made those games excel at longevity. Looks very inspired from those games thusfar which makes me hopeful.

[@cnkfe1836]

So, some random person posts daily quests, then a big guild will run around and kill people who aren't in a big group (this always happens and will happen here to). I really don't understand how this is meant to "save mmos" ? Its just basic mmo stuff covered with fancy bs which doesn't really add anything lol. Its daily quests into group ganking.

[@Skull7Prayer]

by "random person" you mean.. the mayor?! 🤣LOL. You just showed how little you know about the situation.

[@jackzera7356]

@@Skull7Prayer He still has a point... I can foresee big zerg groups eating newbies in their way, which aint good.

[@joshua7426]

Game looks pretty bad, alpha 2 isn't a big deal, game will never launch they already made all they're gonna make off of it with the 1000 dollar alpha buy in

[@Skull7Prayer]

Yeah the millionaire needed the 1000 dollars sales...

[@NoisR]

ashes looks like a completly different game now. looks way more cartoony than before.

[@xbree_]

It’s crazy how much it’s changed. Not a huge fan. The ui looks a little basic too.

[@ZeroLegion]

so a game with graphics of a guild wars in 2024... cool

[@Antonin1738]

This game is never launching is it?

[@titan-]

Just heard about this game and this looks awesome! Any idea when it might release?

[@chonkiboii]

2026 if we are realistic and hopeful.

[@jediwarlock1]

It's becoming more and more niche. I have lost all interest..

[@Joshua.M.S.]

i think originally flying mounts were for mayors of towns and also i think guild leaders who own 1 of a few castles? so they are designed to be very rare... for better or worse

[@Cinarthewise]

i really dont understand this games hype :D just another unreal 5 game with no unique feeling but you know better

[@spookyclaws5350]

Same. People think that because it takes ages to come out it's gonna be great. It promised A LOT and I can bet you it wont deliver even half the things they said it would. Looks pretty generic so far, they're just trying to implement ALL the cool systems out there, and because it takes a decade to finish this game people believe they will actually do it. Watch Alpha 2 getting released with 1/4 of the systems promised, and not even those working properly, and them having some kind of "sorry guys we're just a very small team! The MILLIONS of dollars you donated werent enough sadly, we promise this game will get better and better". I hope I'm proven wrong in the future, I really do. But there's nothing promising about this, nothing that makes you immersed into the world, I havent heard anything about immersion and story, a BIG factor in all succesful mmos (isnt FF14 the most popular mmo out there? And it's basically 80% story and 20% gameplay, but it does an amazing job at making you feel part of the world).

[@Cinarthewise]

​@@spookyclaws5350 %100 agree. or just look at the wow. when you play it you know that you are in world of warcraft. This game looks like im playing a demo of a demo game for unreal. game bussiness has 3 major areas: finding money + finding talent with money + managing the talent properly i think they are having issues at number 2 and 3 :D

[@99Plastics]

How does this game look worse and worse with every video.

[@CombatMonkey11B]

Seems like it’s been in alpha for so long. If they don’t release soon, it’ll be dated before it comes out.

[@iabaca]

Mmos age a lot slower. It's the mechanics that age. And this seems quite ahead of what's available

[@cptnhero6116]

@@iabaca not in gameplay terms...it looks outdated already.

[@CombatMonkey11B]

@@iabaca That’s not always true. To this day no mmo has come out that was as feature rich as UO was in the early years. But the game is on life support because they never bothered to go with full 3D revamp of the game. It’s date, even by isometric standards, and games that didn’t even have as much to them in the early 2000’s (FFXI, WoW) basically killed the game.

[@JAFARS0N]

Majority of MMO lovers are getting older... just release this god damned game!

[@dartin8423]

Ive sadly lost hope for AOC a long time ago :(

[@iabaca]

Why

[@reinaldysilalahi3931]

Thank you for always doing this recap videos. I'm so excited for Ashes!

[@ragnnohab]

All that nonsense about server efficiencies and there's still massive lag when the dragon hits the ground. Bravo Steven, you've reinvented gaming infrastructure.

[@ye_nope]

😂 the folks still in 2010

[@marlonendri490]

if you would have watched the video you would know the system was not in place yet at that time.

[@ScreaminNorman]

Someone didn't watch and listen to the whole video....

[@echo5827]

I hope you're being ironically obtuse

[@tronicmighty7464]

Dude one thing you have to understand this is still the alpha it not even finish lol! But if you don’t wanna play I would just wait for launch when it fully developed

[@Med_Sel]

they reallly trying not to bomb with this delayed release hahahaha hope it works out great for them and the fans

[@yous2244]

Actually first, ignore Andrew, @crowwork2185and and @druzsy

[@JaredHoven]

ALPHA DEERP GARBAGE GAME.

[@blacklord3212]

lol the game UI really feels like beyond shit wtf ?

[@Scyths1]

This game is incredible on paper, in reality though, by the time it releases it'll already be outdated. I mean just look at the latest gameplay, and we're still what, 3 or 4 years away from a release, if even that ? And let's hope that the gameplay loop and content is plentiful and engaging at release, because if not, we might be in for another Bless Online.

[@lafunk1978]

Out dated compared to what? Wow? Gw2?

[@HermannTheGreat]

It's dead on arrival unless it's F2P, maybe devs realize that. Who do they believe are following these ongoing years in progress games other than a handful of people.

[@Skull7Prayer]

@@HermannTheGreat 400.000 alpha testers "its dead on arrival, only a handful of people"

[@Scyths1]

@@Skull7Prayer --- Testing numbers don't mean shit. Case in point, New World. Had much higher people trying out during alphas and betas than during the game's initial release.

[@Skull7Prayer]

@@Scyths1 the petitions for a free account counts? Cause they were 7.000.000