Marvel's The Punisher: The Man Comes Around

[@FirithPanda]

The Punisher radiating "Mom, I threw up" energy in the thumbnail

[@silverhumsedits2658]

Very I want milk energy

[@bassforhire555]

"Mom said its my turn on the Xbox, Russo."

[@PALACIO254]

I throwed up

[@tylercoon1791]

@@PALACIO254 ‘I frew up’

[@AlChestBreachFan7]

Omg that’s actually spot on LMAO

[@tylerlong5112]

My favorite punisher scene is the one at the shop where he try’s to get some gear and is about to leave then the guy tries to push CP and said “shes barely 12 guaranteed” and Frank doesn’t says anything and grabs a bat and does his work, like you see how he believes what he does is right when he has to deal with monsters like that on a daily basis.

[@randomcenturion7264]

He understood the assignment

[@SolidSnake240]

That scene was so satisfying lol

[@Minority119]

It reminds me of that joke Matt made in the sbfp punisher playthrough about how frank has a crime aura that makes people suddenly commit crimes when he's around them Cause that shop dude had no reason to try and sell him girls at all lmao

[@gayanudugampola8973]

There're was another one where Frank burned down a place and a criminal that made CP. It was a photographer with a shotgun. Frank grabbed the gun. Knocked the photographer down. And then Frank's friend suggested he burn the place down.

[@feathermanr7577]

And that scene isn’t even from his own show lol

[@matthewbond375]

Frank's a man out of time. If he had been born into say, the Old West, or any other historic era, he'd be a classic hero. He does what sometimes needs doing.

[@rramdohr7548]

In the 2004 film, I think I'd agree. There were definite Western influences (they talk about it in the film commentary). In the comics, less so. Plenty of iterations make him look like an unhinged lunatic serial killer and I'm not really fond of that version.

[@HarryO_Possum]

Heroes of Old were mostly conquerors, often times ruthless and brutal. Frank, imo, would've been a paragon in most periods pre-Christian morality.

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@rramdohr7548 that’s because a lot of marvels “””talent””” can’t handle frank castle properly, they make Matt Ward of 40k look talented.

[@yungoldman2823]

yes. but he was born now. so hes no hero, hes a murderer with a conscience.

[@TheArklyte]

Did you just straight up stole a quote from Sin City?😅

[@1Sir-McKnight]

"What is justice without vengeance. Simply a slap on the wrist and an invitation for evil to continue. Unabated." Sometimes the villains does deserve death, and Punisher is the perfect character to deliver. Merry Christmas Everybody!

[@thehermitman822]

I'd buy that for a dollar.

[@jonahbrown5669]

It's why I consider Batman to be the biggest villain in his series. He KNOWS locking away these people almost NEVER does anything, and he KNOWS they'll always break out and continue to do the same thing, yet he continues to put them away only for them to get back out

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

"Blood leads only to blood, and violence begets violence. Nothing more. Revenge is simply another name for murder accepted by society." - Deghinsea, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

[@timtim6373]

@@jonahbrown5669Batman isn’t mentally well, to a point where his alternate identify isn’t that of Batman but of Bruce. His justification is that if he gave in he wouldn’t be able to stop himself

[@PALACIO254]

​@@timtim6373 he also wants to hope that people can become better, unfortunately that doesn't really sale comics

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

The kind of fans that bitched about 2004 Punisher are why people don't care about fan complaints

[@Wicked061]

Thomas janes' punisher was awesome.

[@mattmartin6493]

Bought it on DVD years ago always enjoyed it.

[@Prawnsacrifice]

The best on screen punisher 😊

[@Idlemage]

With a real stabbing

[@mrmusickhimself]

The critics were FAR too harsh on it, so were the fans. Honestly, I didn't mind Frank being a cop instead of a Marine. But I DID hate how they wasted The Russian. Sure, the fight scene's awesome, Kevin Nash took that knife like a CHAMP IRL, but that character is such a blast in the comics. They could have done more with him.

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

I remember watching the old Tom James Punisher movie with my old man Dubbed in Russian He was a bit confused at first But during that stand off bit in the bank he piped up and yelled in broken English “AH ITS A GUNSLINGER MOVIE! LIKE CLINT EASTWOOD! I understand now” He loved the movie so it will always hold a special place in my heart ❤️

[@CarlTheSpud]

Da Russian would know. Luck has nothing to do with it ;p

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

My favourite meme from 2004's punisher was a pic of the Russian with the caption "in soviet Russia, Waldo finds YOU"

[@malloperator]

Punisher has a tendency to spark partisan input because of the way the character is portrayed, and the fact that real life groups and individuals have adopted his symbols. Because of this, Punisher was always a character it was hard to get a read on because like you said, you have people that have a kneejerk reaction to demonize or idolize the character, or you have writers that flat out hate the character and only seek to portray him to his extremes, almost out of spite. This video, is the most informative and level headed approach to the character and what iterations of him work the best. I appreciate the way you handled it and don’t think anyone else could’ve done the dude justice.

[@Verschal]

People how think that Punisher is on "their" side, make the same mistake as people who think god is on "their" side.

[@randomcenturion7264]

The world needs Spider-Man, Thor and Cap. But my God does it DESERVE Frank Castle.

[@lonewolfgames7779]

Yes it does

[@cctkid86]

Batman is Abel. The righteous man with incorruptible morals, that hones his body and mind to that same level. He is still just a man, but he is aiming to hold himself to the ideal. Frank is Samson, a man who is there to judge those who commit the most wicked of wrongs and will die enacting his justice. He is a moral actor, but he is not the ideal nor is he aiming for it. This is, of course, when both characters are written correctly.

[@dontshootmex5588]

Good comparison

[@V4Now]

I've met Garth Ennis (i live in London), nice bloke. Ennis for all his faults in comics he's an authentic dude.

[@mosquitopyjamas9048]

His Punisher run is perfection. His hellblazer run too

[@DMAN99]

I’m not much for his writing (his super edgy content) but I remember someone once summing him up by saying “if anything, he’s honest, if he doesn’t like something he’ll say it.”

[@hilotakenaka]

Considering this video is being released right around Christmas, I propose that just like Die Hard, The Punisher is a festive series where Frank Castle spreads festive joy to all the little boys and girls

[@coltonwilkie241]

TheAlmightyLoli is Santa

[@agm5424]

I second this proposal.

[@thehermitman822]

Just helping Santa with coal allocation.

[@mrmusickhimself]

Punisher: War Zone came out about 1-2 weeks before Christmas in 2008, so I consider it a Christmas film.

[@nont18411]

The whole "no kill rule" of superheroes doesn't work when the writers made the villains to be extremely monstrous (Case in point, Batman and Joker). Sure, Frank is not a "hero" but he is a good balance for the irredeemable villains who keep committing atrocities and should be taken down forever.

[@leviticusprime4904]

Writers really need to stop making joker so over the top in terms of his evil.

[@kostaspassias3815]

@@leviticusprime4904 To be fair, Batman has an excuse for the no kill rule. It's usually either he doesn't want to inflict the same kind of pain he felt or he is afraid of what might happen if he crosses that line. Characters like Hal Jordan however really have no excuse. The guy was a fighter pilot. There should be zero hesitation against some of his villains.

[@Fauwkes]

I was flipping bricks for mansa musa before y’all were a type one civilization

[@SirBladewind]

Didn't think I'd see Dracula Flow here

[@Fauwkes]

@ were smoking whopper Goldberg south Egyptian sour lush

[@spiko331]

noice

[@jacksoncasey4765]

We smokin shit in a glass pipe, blowin the Lord’s bubbles

[@GloriousSquizoKing.]

The bugs are back....

[@brainiac.computer]

This is an excellent take on the Punisher. It treats him as a complex character. And not “a ‘villain’ who’d happily gun down a black man”, or “rape women in Vietnam”. Yeah, nobody’s ever had a bad take like that, right?

[@BrokenCornholio1537]

I'm guessing JSG. It sounds like nonsense he'd spew.

[@daltonbecker4494]

@@BrokenCornholio1537 Ding Ding Ding, right on the money.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

​@@BrokenCornholio1537who?

[@Madaseter]

​@@BrokenCornholio1537 that guy is regarded I don't kown why people are listening to him

[@thenegromancer4695]

Punisher killed the woman right? You talking about the born comic?

[@ToneSherpa]

Punisher.. the Black Swordsman era Guts of Marvel. It always comes back to Berserk and you know this.

[@thenomad2311]

... I love berserk.(1997) anyway The Punisher is from the 70s.

[@dylansmith5206]

You could say the same thing about Batman Since he might as well be the US equivalent of Guts just minus the no killing rule And by Georgia, What I wouldn't give to see a Batman/Punisher X Berserk Crossover comic or an Hour long crossover animated film That would literally break the internet in half

[@Light-20]

@@dylansmith5206 Punisher is more like the American Guts, given he actually kills people, is a one-man army for revenge, has absolutely 0 powers or unique abilities compared to the other people in his universe and relies solely on his human physical capabilities

[@dylansmith5206]

@@Light-20 Still doesn't change the fact that I would love nothing more than to see A Berserk/Punisher Crossover comid Or See a Batman/Berserk comic crossover comic My Life would be complete if that was Greenlit (If Naruto and the The Ninja Turtles can do it, Why not Berserk and other American comics)!

[@Red_Bubble]

All roads lead to Rome, Berserk, I mean Berserk

[@igodreamer7096]

Punisher is the kind of anti-hero that you want to "solve" that villain problem when everyone else are too scare or incompetent to act. Great video, Loli bro! ⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@nont18411]

Joker is lucky that he has to face Batman, not the Punisher.

[@igodreamer7096]

@@nont18411 Arthur been just another gangster would never even get a chance to becoming Joker. Batman just like to have him around, I guess. What clown.

[@BackstabbyBoy]

@@igodreamer7096 Isn't there a Batman/Punisher crossover comic book where the Punisher tries to kill the Joker and Batman stops him and tells Joker to run away?

[@foxalpha3203]

​@@BackstabbyBoy yes and joker was actually scared for he's life cuz frank just saw him as another scum that needed to be put down

[@jasonglebe3235]

Nick Rekeita actually had a really good take on the Punisher and his appeal. He talked about how the Punisher is an avatar for our responsibility to police our neighborhoods. That when law enforcement becomes corrupt it is our duty to act.

[@TimerFunReal]

YES! That's right on the money.

[@kyon813]

Boy, that aged badly...

[@Gint3ch66]

Too bad Nick is a massive hypocrite

[@bigmyke2008]

What about when you get so drunk and high with your wife that CPS has to take your children?

[@Grundleburger]

I’d take anything Balldo says with a grain of salt

[@N4chtigall]

The Punisher 2004 game was also released on PC btw, there is no need for emulation.

[@BrokenCornholio1537]

Fairly easy to get a copy too.

[@ernestomanso1981]

But I don't emulate for necessity, I emulate for sport.

[@Nah_no_thanks]

The punisher ps2 was also a psuedo sequel to the Thomas Jane movie. He did the VO, and jigsaw was based off of Howard saints son that he thought he blew up with the mine in the movie. It's truly great.

[@JosephConrad-z9j]

That game needs a remaster. It’s so good!

[@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946]

Yeah, definitely need a remastered get the people that made remastered legacy of Kane To do the work Them easy Peasy lemon squeezy.

[@ShadowBaofu]

It should be noted it's Saint's wife who says "no. His whole family." Even though Saint just wanted Castle dead.

[@NeumaghAnon]

The most political thing Frank does is not pay taxes

[@johntangen3652]

I'm glad you're giving 2004 Punisher some love. That one was one of my favorites growing up!!

[@BigMicahC]

Fun bit about the blow torch scene. That's straight out of Chuck Dixon's run on the book.

[@mr.skullfacegarcia775]

My Top 5 Favorite Marvel Characters 1. Spider-Man 2. Blade 3. Punisher 4. Nightcrawler 5. She-Hulk Honorable mentioned: Ghost Rider

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

G A Y Unless it’s pre 2000

[@mitrion301]

Neat list

[@TyrJustice]

I know what kind of man you are 😅

[@High-Overlord-Pugula]

I love that the scene in the Punisher movie where Frank Castle fights the Russian the dude playing the Punisher stabbed Kevin Nash with a real knife instead of the prop version and Nash just literally shrugged it off and kept going with the day's filming. He said later he found it funny and wasn't bothered.

[@jaccblacc8424]

God, what a chad

[@getthegoons]

Then Kevin Nash went to his trailer and immediately tore both Quads.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@getthegoons still not as bad as what happened in the summer of 1992

[@Eric-vo4js]

If I remember right, the 2004 film also had Jane going full force through the brick wall toward the end of the Russian fight instead of playing it safe. Absolute mad men on that one

[@isaackane4931]

On the point of Punisher being "political" more or less just stems from the scope of certain concepts being politicized to the point that they want sides being taken. What with the Left going the route of being soft on crime and frothing at the mouth over gun use. Or, hell, just how often Pun-Pun goes after PDFs, but I can't imagine why they'd hate him for that... He himself isn't political, but what he does has been made political. Thus he is a target for censorship/deconstruction much like any media they don't like.

[@weezersthebluealbum9479]

Did you take a break from Fox News to comment this? Talk to people in real life and you’ll realise not everyone is the strawman you’ve drawn them to be.

[@J-joe11]

Leftist can't go 1 minute without ruining something for political gain. 😂😂😂

[@CodeeXD]

​@@weezersthebluealbum9479 what part of the comment triggered you? Was it the pdf hate?

[@TimerFunReal]

Eh. Punisher being political goes beyond whatever ineffectual liberals blabber about online. When systems fail the people, or are made to fail through corruption, people will turn to the Punisher and relate with that frustration for a better world, violent as it may be in execution. No pun intended. It's not been *made* political as much as it's incredibly hard to not interpret as so with that common lens.

[@GFXCXZ]

I don't think that's true. It's more that the punisher proposes a idea, and while at that core that is idea of simply dilemma of humanity, the actual conversation of it is political. The punisher is about punishment, full on punishment and that's the point. He is vengeance and retribution, but also gratification and a turn away from the concept of redemption. And the left isn't really soft on crime. They're notoriously over vindictive on certain crimes, especially social and political crimes such as misgendering someone which is more of a side effect of radical attempts to gain political social control than true political conceptualization or loyalty, it's one of the reason they can be so break neck switch about that stuff. You see the same thing in the growing trad right groups who feel they are materializing as the personification as the collective right wing reaction to that stuff. Many of the other heroes skirt the law but live by a strong sense of ethics. Punisher dosen't really have much ethics outside of justifying who he is allowed to target and so there are a lot of things to call him out for. Politics follow the man because he is a man vs society and society attempts to implement justice. If someone says "This thing is flawed. Look at this cool guy who goes against it in the most brutal way possible as a free agent" that statement and depiction is always going to be sort of anti-establishment in some form because frank by default is a ideal power fantasy for people who feel that way about the establishment and its attempts and rules of justice. It wouldn't matter what side was in power. It's just that as that core idea gets batted back and forth, he eventually picks up political baggage. The punisher is obviously not pro-cop, but somehow he gained that status for a while because he became associated with being tougher on crime. But it wouldn't be hard to just as much argue that such a man COULD include social issues into his targeting, especially when those social issues may allow crimes legally via social allowance. You saw a lot of this psuedo-punisher stuff in the tropes of the "racist getting punished" that was common for a while, sure it wasn't directly the punisher but it's the same thing. Strangely, this trope evaporated when blacks became more vocally and collective racist towards Asians and whites.

[@Megatron_95]

I dont care what people say, Punisher War Zone is underrated as fuck! I know people love the Thomas Jane version, and i dont hate it, but War Zone hits that spot for me

[@thelordofcringe]

The comic by the same name is peak Punisher

[@jasonsantos3037]

Punisher war zone It's just like punisher max is coming to life.

[@shawklan27]

It was an amazing black comedy for sure

[@Matayis_Patchbelly]

Couldn’t agree more. War Zone is brutal and entertaining. I liked Thomas Jane, but wasn’t a fan of that movie. It was slow, boring and had a terrible, generic villain. Travolta was awful. War Zone embraced the inherent insanity and brutality of Punisher(particularly MAX). It seemed like all involved really cared about the source material.

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

I think you'd really enjoy the 'how did this get made?' podcast episode on the Punisher Warzone, the director has some wild BTS stories from that movie.

[@ToneSherpa]

I LOVED Punisher in Daredevil. I loved how what's his name Shane from walking dead played him... but man... the actual Punisher show we got was underwhelming. They nailed it in Daredevil and then kind of neutered it for the actual show. The writers of Daredevil really understood what's appealing about Punisher.

[@spider-mah3973]

I miss daredevil show so much, that was really the best of mcu, writers really understood the characters, I don't think they even show the religious part of Matt's character in Born Again let alone give us a really good punisher without watering his character down or make him political, Even in his own R rated show in Netflix they couldn't have gone all the way

[@lukebarroso449]

The Punisher is an amazing character. My first ever real introduction was the 2004 movie with Thomas Jane. Then it would be better known with the Daredevil show and his own with Jon Bernthal for me. Both really enjoyable.

[@VencentCross]

"inside of every cynic is a disappointed idealist" -George Carlin

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Carlin What I wouldn't give to have Almighty loli do a video where he talks about Carlin and his Stand Up Material for 7 and a half hour video material

[@coltonwilkie241]

What I wouldn't give to violate Carlin's grave.

[@SquagelZ]

Ppl who think Punisher is fascist think it’s racist to own a German Shepherd.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

They probably also claim to be a minority because they're like, 2% black.

[@SIGNOR-G]

If only he really was fascist

[@SquagelZ]

@ your voice, gods ear.

[@quietrioter]

Punisher is Marvel's Guts....he goes through so much shit, you just want him to be happy

[@jayyy1677]

Acting like Guts has a choice, Punisher can put down the gun any day and use the money he steals from the mafia to settle down somewhere peacefully,his utilitarianism ideology wouldn’t let him

[@asininerealms]

ngl i love The Punisher because of his level of sheer brutality. Maybe im getting old but im less interested in cosmic stories and more interested in brutal street crime and mystery. Batman, Punisher and Daredevil are all sick. Whether it's the MAX comics, the movies, the show or playing him in Marvel Rivals, I love the fact that he's just a pissed off dude.

[@vinegar4556]

Same, honestly. I just find gangsters, corrupt politicians, serial killers, and any number of other more grounded criminal types to make for significantly more interesting bad guys than aliens or demons, and Punisher at its best scratches that itch beautifully.

[@fastlandcliffhanger6962]

More of a War Zone fan than a 2004 one, but Punisher is definitive top tier character regardless.

[@OscarAntonio-t4z]

I think Punisher would have a problem with cops worshiping him...the problem is the scenes were he confronts them are always so corney and out of character lol Frank wouldn't give a very practiced and preachy lecture to them, he would just stare them down and keep tabs on them just in case

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

12:54 That image of frank punching a polar bear always cheers me up

[@torshec8634]

"How The Punisher Saved Christmas"

[@JosephConrad-z9j]

Can’t believe The Punisher dragged The Grinch behind an alleyway and put a bullet to the back of Grinch’s skull. I mean- I can believe it because it’s Frank, but the idea the crossover was made in the first place. Pretty based to be honest.

[@chillhour6155]

Kamala: HOW DARE YOU

[@InternetHydra]

Forget any other gripe with the guy, Garth Ennis's biggest sin is killing off Barracuda. That was a rising star and he only got three series.

[@LedZedd]

Wasn't him that was Marvel. Marvel actually canned a fully drawn and written Barracuda mini series made by Ennis.

[@theopinionatedcharles2795]

Ennis's work has a very distinct British/Irish charm to them that has always drawn me to his works (especially the boys comics which I absolutely adore and hate what Amazon did with the adaptation) as an English-man and in the least preachy way possible, it's so nice to finally hear someone else who appreciates his works on the internet and understands why he writes the way he does without just pointing the finger and repeating the same old "hE HaTEs SuPErhEroEs" over and over again.

[@brainiac.computer]

I appreciated Ennis’ work with Preacher. People take it as a condemnation of religion in general, but there’s more to it than that. It criticizes dogmatic perspectives and organized religion (i.e. Catholic Church), yes. But it also shows the other side of that coin: the godless behavior our fellow man is capable of when turned away from faith. The comic even poses it’s god as a megalomaniac narcissist seeking our validation, as opposed to being a righteous deity. The series even ends on a rather dark note when the Saint of Killers assassinates god and takes over his mantle, implying the world is about to stumble into even further chaos on an incredible scale.

[@HortonSalm]

What do you mean by British/Irish charm? I haven't read his stuff so it may be obvious when I do, just curious what you mean.

[@kinsmarts2217]

​@@brainiac.computerI mean, Garth Ennis is from northern ireland, so no wonder his head would be filled with anti-catholic propaganda, especially during "the troubles", how is a "religious war" less justifiable than any other war? Also what is a "non-oraganized religion?" Some new age BS? Or just being "spiritual"? Also he just repeats a common trope of "God is kind of a jerk or in the gray zone" that a lot of more edgy writers use, thinking its the most "innovative" thing ever.

[@theopinionatedcharles2795]

@HortonSalm It's more of a feeling I get from the way he writes most of his characters, especially in something like The Boys where you really feel that all to familiar cynical, sarcasm along with the overt bluntness in the team but Butcher especially. Butcher is like the embodiment of the 'hard man' stereotype from a lot of British films from the 80s - 2000s. Like he looks straight out of something like Snatch (2000) or Lock, stock and Two Smoking Barells (1996) and embodies all of the cynicism and sarcassm a true Cockney boy like himself can bring to the states. Hughie emanate's that small amount of hope and optimism left within the British people that's been crushed and weighed down due to our history and the way our class system works which discourages working class people from ever pushing themselves to do something more with their lives. Even the non British characters embody a distinctive British essence that I can't describe.

[@alexmear5096]

I feel like Garth ennis is probably more cynical towards superheroes but still loves the super hero genre, I can’t really say I fully love Garth Ennis’s work but I just feel like Garth ennis work probably can just never really work as an adaptation because really your not seeing Garth ennis your just seeing someone trying to emulate Garth ennis, I won’t say some changes in the boys Amazon series I think does stuff better then the comics but it is also vice versa

[@TorchlightCinema80]

You made a really interesting point talking about Punisher Max and the Thomas Jane film, they’re dark, somber and a little depressing because Frank isn’t a pleasant person. He’s lost everything and instead of trying to move on he just let the pain sink in and simmer until it turned into something awful. A punisher movie wouldn’t be like other superhero movies at all if you do it right.

[@chemergency]

Fun fact is originally James Cameron wanted to adapt Spider-Man and he had an R-rated film in mind with a graphic sex scene between MJ and Peter and plenty of profanity and blood. He originally had Leonardo DiCaprio in mind as Peter, Nikki Cox as MJ, Kevin Spacey as Green Goblin, Bill Paxton as the guy that kills Uncle Ben, Michael Douglas as J. Jonah Jamison, Michael Biehn as Sandman, Katherine Hepburn as Aunt May, Lance Henricksen as Electro, and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Doc-Ock.

[@Nobodyshoes]

Ar old Schwarzenegger as the buff scientist super-villain? Sounds like something out of Always Sunny in Philadelphia. 😂

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

In an interview with John Bernthal between Daredevil and Punisher season 1, Bernthal was asked by a fan "what kind of pizza does the Punisher like?" Bernthal said "The Punisher doesnt eat pizza". When I saw Frank getting excited about pizza in season 2, I knew the show was garbage.

[@RedBonkleMan8534]

Chris Kyle and his unit repping the Punisher Skull had severe consequences on the Punisher as a character.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

For anyone who wants more Thomas Jane, The Expanse is a great show.

[@Kirkmaximus]

Fantastic show. As one who read the books; the show does it better.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@ Never read the books, but the show is excellent. 👍

[@bootstrapparadox8656]

I hope you’ll do other marvel videos that cover other anti-hero characters like Ghost Rider or Moon Knight, got mad respect for you covering the Punisher with this much depth.

[@mysteryman4915]

The Thomas Jane movie is my favorite. It feels so authentic and dedicated to its story. Almost like an indie passion project.

[@HungNguyen-sy4oz]

My favorite Castle story has always been the 2014 run. In that run, he's practically embodying the "veteran philosophical gunslinger" old west archetype. A lot of things could have been handled better, sure, but I do believe that's the best way to go forward with such an "out of place" character like him.

[@Kirkmaximus]

In the ideal world, we would prefer to have a Spiderman. In the real world, we need Frank Castle.

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

In the real world, when reabilitation and forgivness are considered a good thing by society, we need Batman. In a dystopian world, when vigilantism and cycle of revenge are considered a good thing by society, we need Punisher.

[@Kirkmaximus]

@@LaZonaDiRin3743 " woman was fatally set on fire while sleeping in a subway car in Coney Island, New York, and a suspect has been taken into custody in connection with the incident." CBS news today. You're comment aged very well. >.> We are living in a dystopian world. None of the DC Heroes could bring justice to that women or stop the politicians that allowed this from happening.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

The Punisher is one of those characters you have a hard time disagreeing with. I mean with how often villains in Marvel escape and cause more trouble and show no regret for it, it's hard not to agree with his no nonsense method.

[@Th3Kingism]

Your typical superhero believes in redemption and rehabilitation, Frank has seen the worst of the worst humanity has to offer, those that laugh in the face of those noble ideals, and while many heroes would reject his methods there is that little tickle in the back of their head that has gratitude for a man like Frank for removing the trash from society.

[@jakefrost7404]

*_It's videos like this one that made me a fan of your channel back way back when you were chewing out Druckman and his failure of a sequel. Exhaustive dedication to establishing context that, despite me already being pretty familiar with the subject material, has me revisiting it with new interest._* *_Because of you, Loli, I will never not be floored by the Russian Fight scene. Thank you._* *_Merry Christmas in advance, and a Happy New Year._*

[@jackdaone6469]

Funny enough, Punisher: Dirty Laundry was done by pre-Castlevania, pre-Fixing Apu Adi Shankar.

[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

Punisher is the dad we all want in our lives.

[@Arkantrol]

The long awaited video.... The lore behind "That guy in the Punisher shirt.'

[@augustusfren133]

glad you mentioned the whole ennis hates super heroes myth, it always bothered me that this is usually the most common argument to disregard the boys comics as a whole. it sure isn't perfect but repeating something you saw on some comment section once to defend some *mediocre at its best* tv show by putting the source material down is silly billy behavior.

[@shawklan27]

@augustusfren133 bro the boys fanboys have the most aggravating fanbase I have ever seen on the Internet. Theyre just so pretentious and cringe in every level

[@GreatLoner]

What hurt the '04 Punisher movie was Kill Bill being released during the same weekend.

[@TorchlightCinema80]

oof

[@etrangray-mane8610]

As soon as I saw "Bumpo" in the 2004 clips, I instantly yelled "It's John Pinette!! It's fucking John Pinette!!"

[@BrokenCornholio1537]

Dude was fucking funny too in his stand up. We lost him too soon man, it sucks.

[@Darkcide-tl7kl]

@@etrangray-mane8610 "They asked me why I left Broadway, because I am in panty hoes 3 times a day!"

[@wadejohnston4305]

Its been awhile since I've visited your channel. Glad nothing has changed for the worse in fact you've improved in every way. Editing. How you get your thoughts and ideas around. Also the Johnny cash reference as the title just works fucking perfectly as tell me any clip from the 2004 movie wouldnt be BAD ASS with a Johnny cash song playing.

[@robertfalcone3025]

Im a lifelong NYC resident..& i love the fact that Punisher is based on the old school... much more crime ridden NYC..& the Netflix series was actually filmed at Greenpoint Studiosb here in my neighborhood...& scenes have been filmed on my block..& all those warehouse scenes were fillmed here on West St on the East River waterfront..

[@gabyguzman9846]

Didn't catch this as it came out really busy, but you madman! It was really a good vid! Needed a bit more Seether, but all in all, awesome! Cool early Christmas gift, Loli!

[@pillmitchell1429]

I remember getting barracuda as a kid my dad didn't proof read it when I picked it off the shelf. Same with the PS2 punisher game

[@Ddot5ky]

You Barely made it before Christmas and glad you did, I've never really cared for the punisher but you've changed my mind about it and now I feel like at the very least watching the movies and shows.

[@someokiedude9549]

I think what makes The Punisher a hard character to write is, as Garth Ennis points out, he's a very simple character. He's almost like a gun. You point him at something and he'll shoot it, no questions asked. That said, that means that his stories can become repetitive unless you got a great writer like Garth Ennis or Jason Aaron on board. Also thank you for dispelling the misconceptions about Ennis, particularly his stance on superheroes. I always get irritated when I see people ripping on him for things he didn't say or do. So I appreciate you taking the time to clear things up. I disagree slightly on what you said about the show, I view the Netflix version of Frank as someone who isn't quite there yet (at least, in season 1 that is.) Sure, he's dipped into The Punisher, but he's not really The Punisher yet, he's still an angry, grieving man who's taking revenge on his family's killers. By the end of the first season, he's finally embraced becoming The Punisher. I also like how the first season tied everything together, though there were some parts that dragged, like the ex-military guy you mentioned. The scene where he and Frank have a confrontation on the phone is pretty cringe inducing to watch. Season 2 was a wreck though...my God. Great video as always, I do hope to see a full video about Ennis' Punisher MAX run. Might be the best work on The Punisher that's ever been done. Jason Aaron's take is also very good, but Ennis gets The Punisher in ways few others really can, much like how Claremont gets the X-Men or how Grant Morrison gets Superman.

[@SIGNOR-G]

I really dont like Garth Ennis but if hes on a keash he can write good stories... sometimes

[@isaackane4931]

Marvel/Disney always talking about representation, but they show their fear with the Punisher. They release their girlbosses or Blacktain Americas, yet ignore the true greats. His grandest nemesis. Barracuda for MCU everyone. Not only the greatest Punisher character, not only the greatest black character, but perhaps the greatest fictional character ever to be put to pen and paper. The Barracuda Cinematic Universe must be made! They can release it alongside their adaptation of Avengers 200 with Captain Marvel. Another classic that will get them nothing but accolades.

[@lonewanderer1328]

Can't even respect captain america nor black panther, huh? wild

[@lincolnpascual]

​@lonewanderer1328 he said GREATEST black marvel character. Black panther is good, and Falcon is good too. But Sam Wilson Cap in MCU is a DEI hire (it should've been Bucky) and boo where near as compelling as his turn in the comics was. Barracuda, though... is perfect.

[@TimerFunReal]

Marvel-Disney will always focus on kids-teens or whatever the greatest paying audience is. Is Barracuda's appearing, it's in a TV show, if at all.

[@GFXCXZ]

@@lincolnpascual He's baiting.

[@lonewanderer1328]

@@lincolnpascual Bucky is a fucking sociopath and a good soldier. Unless the comics are different, it’s been a minute granted, captian america should be a good man.

[@JimIBobIJones]

The "almost" relationships they keep doing with Frank is important to the narrative. By making it clear that - if only he would consider an alternative path - Frank can have a normal (or at least happy) life, it reinforces the tragedy of his choice to keep being the punisher. The punisher is ultimately a noir figure, who is doomed by his own obsession with vengeance and inability to move on.

[@edima]

i think his appearance in daredevil season 2 was flawless. it felt like garth ennis's punisher from the max comics come to life. by the time he got his solo series, it just felt like the writers wanted to make a wolverine story and slapped the punisher in it. or maybe im just so used to ennis's punisher who is so ingrained in his violent nature that hes constantly looking for criminals to satiate his rage. punisher born was an incredible story btw.

[@AkaiSuisei1776]

It is kind of wild the number of writers that hated punisher wrote punisher comics

[@spider-mah3973]

Man , I would love to get an actual adaptation of Garth Ennis' The Punisher Max but sadly , we will never get something as good as that

[@ChaosReacon137]

Was such a shame we never got a The Darkness 3. While it did veir off from the comics, the first game's atmosphere and the second's being the monster that hunts the bad guys, such a damn shame. But onto The Punisher, thanks for covering it and giving some recommendations. Fingers crossed Marvel doesn't mess things up as you don't have to have a single focused audience. Hell, a large amount of the audience are mature adults, maybe not mentally, but there is definitely that audience that loves Deadpool, Logan, etc. But, it won't be a surprise if Marvel or Disney waste an opportunity they have (if they didn't burn it to the ground already)

[@SereneSimian]

Respect for the sheer amount of research and dedication to scavenging various sources and clips. I can now stuff my fat face while being entertained thanks bro

[@ValhallaAMV]

The only part of season 2 I really like was when the girl had to shoot a dude and she's freaking out about killing him, and Frank tries to comfort her by saying "You didn't kill him, you just shot him." BANG "I killed him."

[@Nah_no_thanks]

I love how you go from dead man's party to 89 batman soundtrack.

[@CJDunehew1]

Bro that issue where the punisher basically gives a talking too at the police was gay, Great video by the way

[@Mezzo-k1y]

I think I'd rather see police take inspiration from any other hero honestly

[@protoaltus]

I still remember the adrenaline coursing as every episode passed. The first season ending with such a good climax, only to be elevated higher in the second season. He's unapologetically walking a road of his own ruin while trying to pave the path for others even if he doesn't often succeed. In the most respectful way, quoting Deadpool, "fucks hard". The Punisher is what Batman could be, if he was without his code for different reasons.

[@Ratface0007]

Finally a video about the Punisher that gets the character

[@GhostLink92]

Dude, I'm in the middle of re-watching The Expanse right now, and I just now realized that Thomas Jane (Miller) played the Punisher. How did I never realize this?

[@BrokenCornholio1537]

And Thomas Jane to this day is still down to play the character. Just Nobody gave him a decent script yet.

[@jhandlediihggdfhg]

Punisher is MARVEL Batman. It makes sense they wouldn't know what to do with an interesting character like that.

[@stevelucky7579]

Here is my alternate universe arc: We keep season 1. Season two we have him travel to overseas like in a jungle where he is taking down local trash there following a lead. Basically a lot of jungle warfare. At first there are some things getting the better of him 3-4 of the final episodes frank is working these traps and his environment so well it’s giving the local groups a hard time. End with getting a lead about super terrorists being planed. Season 3 as Frank investigates more about these super terrorists, have him team up loosely with something like shield, have him bankrolled and travel to these different countries around the world finding clues about this super program to put a stop to it. End the season with shield and Frank parting ways because their head division something got fired or they were order to focus on another issue or word got out they are working with The Punisher and so they have to distance themselves to an even greater extent and deny their relationship or something. Meaning season 4 frank has to fight in the middle east a group of terrorists as he hones in on some super villains, but low enough level (the Rino, jubilee, real low level but a different challenge of criminal to fight) not to throw power scaling out the window, this is to focus him back up on lower stakes story wise. We just had the over seas building to the punisher gets a huge budget and neat gadgets part, now we need him to use up his toys and perks mostly before heading back to the US. Once the super terrorists get cleaned up, we get a lead that brings Frank back to the US where a company seemed to be funding the work was also preforming other sinful activities. So frank suspects them of being tied to the situation. This one would only really have one main villian/obstical for frank compared to the several last season and refocuses more on Frank’s investigative and planning operations. We could if we need to have, this be a wrap up season for Frank where maybe he has to face his own punisher, while he’s been away. Except this guy’s code is a lot looser than franks. It ends with frank trying to think about retiring or not but we keep it open ended. If we need him in a future movie or team up it’s there but that would probably be the end for his run in my arch. Intro, the super arch, then closing arch. 5 seasons, end it there. But this is just a larger overview.

[@leonardojuan92]

To Me: Frank Castle's the punisher is a perfect representation on how to write a Anti-hero. while some of his actions are very questionable he is a man those have a desire to do good.

[@pinkskie5536]

While this video actually was really good to learn about earlier runs of Punisher, the biggest takeaway from this video, for me, was showing me just how little I remembered anything past Season 1 of the Netflix Punisher. Every good action setpiece and character moment you referenced that I remembered from the show was in Season 1. I do, however, disagree with the complaint about Russo's death. I preferred Frank just executing him in cold blood, and the reason why is because we already got the brutal, cathartic beatdown, and it didn't work. Frank didn't feel any better, and it only made Russo even more the treacherous, wicked bastard he was deep down. Frank got his catharsis, moved past it, and now all Russo was to him was a broken shell needing disposal.

[@erikjimenez8671]

Well, considering Frank’s popularity during the 80s to the point that DC tried to have their own version of the punisher, even bringing back vigilante until the success of watchmen and the dark Knight returns.

[@justsomegrunt]

Well this is a nice early Christmas gift. Thanks Loli and Merry Christmas!

[@EmeraldCrocodil]

I was worried you would tear the Netflix Punisher to shreds, but to my pleasant surprise, you did the character absolute justice. I agree with every word you said about that iteration of Frank. Otherwise - a very educational video. Thank you!

[@ResakuMaatsuda]

Thank you! Punisher is a really misunderstood character, and I hate the fact that people consider him a fascist.

[@maxiargos1971]

THANK YOU! I am a big fan of 2004 punisher despite not reading the comics. I felt it was a good adaptation for a comic book movie, as well as wishing some shots or editing would be use more for more comic book movies. And when I showed my BF this years ago, and during it he loved the movie and humor as well. Hell, I had no idea one of the actors was played by a comedian years ago, until he told me about it. Really the reason to me why the movie works as a comic book movie, and hell even as a oldschool action 80s vibe movie is this. The revenge part, and how well that is played by the actors and written. How the Punisher got rid of a family with out doing much of anything to get his hands dirty, until he faced the guy who ordered his family to get killed. All it took was a earing and doubt to set it, and one truth that could have prevented the whole thing, but due to the year no way was ever going to get out. And that was Howard Saint's brother's secret. I mean it. Good movie and I wish people rewatch it again and realize they where wrongly harsh to the movie. Also tots random but I noticed this. Odd that in the early 2000s with comic book movies guys with trauma that where showed decent to well where mostly the ones shit talked the most and people just wanted the action? The punisher and Hulk. Like people just thought there where dumb, and not needed for the movie. Crazy that 20 years later most people are aware of trauma and abuse to the point of when talking about it treat it with care and dignity. Well most of the times, but it has gotten better from back then I feel with people writing both genders. Just something I noticed and wanted to share is all.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Punisher always will be my favorite Marvel and Comic book character.

[@Nah_no_thanks]

Ray Stevenson was the presence. Dolph was the look. Thomas was the hurt. Each brought something different to the role that made them stand out. Like dolph in the buff, monologuing to us about why he commits his crimes. Thomas Jane having all of this weirdness happening around him while trying to get his revenge made him feel more like a normal super intelligent and well trained vigilante. Ray Stevenson brought the comic book presence. His face, his hair, the jacket. Bernthal was mostly just an evolution of that military popularity and playing up the ptsd.

[@Nah_no_thanks]

Though the assault on precinct 13 reference in season 2 of the punisher show still makes me smile.

[@metrotoxic171]

I was born in 05 and this was one of the first "superhero" movies I ever seen. I was maybe six and unsupervised, sneaked in my dad's room and snagged some cool looking movies (also watchmen what a double feature) and I was blown away by how sad and just evil the world(s) can be. Just an amazing movie

[@NomadMonkey396]

What comes around, goes around. You can't run from yourself forever.

[@fakesmile172]

Your videos are great "Lone Wolf and Cub but Punisher" ok let him cook

[@sethclark2802]

I've been getting back into old comics. This was a good reminder that I need to read Punisher

[@steliosks6610]

My way of finding out about him was when during one of my brothers best friend birthday party his mother let me play with his ps2 console and i stumbled upon this game and instantly felt intrigued to try it. The gore on that game wasn't anything i have ever seen before, you could blow limbs off and headshots would make heads explode and that shit genuinely creeped me tf out but also intrigued me to find out more about the characters lore. After a few years i watched that 2004 adaptation and instantly realised hes one of my favourite anti heroes in fiction thus far.

[@rumpunched6277]

Calls Frank MACVSOG then proceeds to show a frame of a panel of Frank wearing a Marine Corps uniform lol

[@thelordofcringe]

Punisher 2004 is a perfect adaptation of normal punisher. Punisher 2008 is a perfect adaptation of Punisher MAX. Netflix punisher is somewhere in between but weighted more towards max. Almost like an emotionally fleshed out more hollywood verison of max.

[@Marcara081]

The Punisher is what happens when the justice system won't seek justice. It's actually just justice operating outside the law, which has failed. The people who hate the Punisher (not as a character but as a representation of unlawful justice) are ALWAYS the same people who are against individual rights. Always. Every single time. The same sort who think no individual has a right to lethal self-defense.

[@wjbushjr]

???? Dude quit being a spaz. We’re dangerously getting retarded here on these opinions 😂

[@TheJonesChannel11]

That himt about the Punisher knowing who Dare Devil is, I think you missed a scene in the courtroom when Frank was acting like weird, looking around like he recognizes that voice from some where.

[@wyattml1641]

This videos helped me to realize that I don’t dislike the character the punisher, I’m now realizing that it’s probably very good at marvel has a character like him. I just don’t like some of the people who idolize the punisher.

[@jakbenimbel2521]

I thought the story with the Punisher vs Russian scene in the Thomas Jane movie was that it was Jane who was actually stabbed, and his pain reaction to having the knife slowly shoved in was real.

[@RJSire]

I came to theAlmightyLoli for berserk and stayed for his perception, opinion and personality