The New GR86 Is Doomed, Let Me Explain - Toyota GR86 Review

[@Sean-sn6gn]

This new 86 is enough of an upgrade to make me really want one. I really hope Akio Toyoda stands by his "no more boring cars" statement.

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

Hopefully this lawsuit bmw just got makes Toyota drop their partnership with them so we can just get all 3jz Supra’s next and with a redesigned interior. The one now is nice but it’s not hop in and know you’re in a Supra nice.

[@Sean-sn6gn]

@@ExtremelyOnlineGuy Would have to agree. What is this lawsuit over?

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

@@Sean-sn6gn cant remember exactly but bad press usually leads to loss of collaboration between others

[@FSXflyermaster]

What lawsuit

[@sengvang3718]

Na.... Not good enough to replace my 2007 ap2 s2k.

[@communistloser3182]

I love how that I will not ever be able to afford a new "cheap" sports car. Gives me great hope for the future!

[@amiesports]

welcome to Europe. living in the richest part, the earliest age to afford the new 86 would be 28yrs old (average income + living for free at mommy's place) Edit: if you work 10yrs (18-28y/o), *not* pay rent, but *do* go outside, all whilst saving 28.5% of your net. income, you can buy the base model at BE MSRP € 36.670 (excl. road taxes and insurance).

[@ChiniBaba096]

@@amiesports lol is that with or without financing?

[@straightbusta2609]

@@amiesports Welcome to Central Asia Here we don't have any of these sports cars in the market, import taxes are 150%. Byeee

[@swagsession1]

Welcome to America where capitalism rules and prices are cheaper due to high competition in the free market 😏 21 with a 21 3.0 Supra and a 13 Tacoma🖖🏽

[@swagsession1]

@@WeAreChecking you picked the wrong career bud, I’m a property inspector for multiple insurance companies and make over 100k, Supra is paid taco is financed through my llc since I switch trucks every year

[@grubby2020]

I will be buying either this, a BRZ, or a Z once they're all out. It does feel like its the end of an era.

[@mykrodab3ast105]

word

[@cawashka]

they are the last cars of this era for sure

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

I feel sad about this.

[@RSTBKT]

not to mention the question of what Ford may do with their GT coupe, their regular gasoline version, not the Mach E...because the current gen as been around since like 2015...

[@Kronovoir]

Just do it, got myself a 2014 GT86 a couple months ago and can't be any happier!

[@Jawnson123]

I like how you guys do a history background on the vehicles culture and the impact of its previous generations.

[@psychedashell]

I like how they talk about a Trueno and show a Levin.

[@MrMannyhw]

86 and these were for the poor guys. And the higher end stuff like Z and Sura for richer people. If 86 is priced at their current price, no one will buy it. Riding on the nostalgia won’t be enough. 1st Gen FRS BRZ was gutless.

[@capocapo7381]

That was very informative 👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥

[@DonisGP]

I remember being a little kid around 2013 and 2014 when I first started watching videos of the FRS on youtube and I instantly fell in love. Seeing articles and videos almost daily and having them as my wallpapers. The FRS or 86 has been my dream car for the longest time. Usually I get made fun of when I say that but people just dont understand that it wasnt always about hp. I love the looks, how it is so driver focused, the sounds, the highly tunable engine, and the huge aftermarket suport for it. I'll always want a first gen and I will own it one day. I wasnt a huge fan of the second gen but its growing on me and I think it is a fitting replacement. Like I said though the first gen has had a special place in my heart since I was a little kid. ❤

[@MachoMandem]

The 86 corolla was a beast, i had one and no one could touch me on the straights, track or going sideways! Best car i owned in NFS underground 2 lol

[@fim1344]

@@KO-sx9uy now imagine the e36 on lowered and tightened up on coilovers and some grippy tires lol. Would destroy this

[@Isseki_Nicho]

LOL!!

[@Sinnaci]

He got me in the fist half, not gonna lie 😂

[@Z06C5]

Lol. No one could touch me. Lol. Lap times don’t lie. Car and driver lighting lap. Or you tube videos. Thing is slow. Lol

[@MotozVietnam]

Exactly

[@Johnpinckney98]

"At a price a young enthusiast can afford". 32k SHEESH!

[@9unslin9er]

Takumi was a high school junior when he made his debut, and he didn't even own the Trueno. What highschooler can throw doen $30k?

[@aygwm]

I live in LA, make six figures and still cannot reasonably afford this. Oh well.

[@dannyd7714]

@@aygwm you're doing it wrong. Pay off your debt lol.

[@aygwm]

@@dannyd7714 I am debt free.

[@someguy5035]

The average car price is $32K. Still seems like a lot though.

[@MaddNomad1015]

Everyone else: releases review Albon: makes a small documentary

[@albonfilms]

hahahaha that's our style!

[@MaddNomad1015]

@@albonfilms love it. Everyone was making the simple first impressions while you guys took me on an enthusiast roller coaster. Lol

[@albonfilms]

I feel it was a story worth telling!

[@andrewwright.]

@@albonfilms it's a great way to do things. Remembering the ae86 just has to be.

[@marcos1669]

You haven´t seen the Jason Cammisa one

[@madhadda_rotla]

I wanted to cry at the end of this video. I had a 91 Toyota Celica as my first car, and this made me nostalgic about the old times. Great work.

[@turbodragon66]

"don't be sad that it's gone, be happy that it happened"

[@TropaSoy_]

No

[@turbodragon66]

@@TropaSoy_ k bruh

[@coced]

-Tell me how the RWD sports car died -No, ill tell you how it lived

[@bacquivaguidelava]

@@coced exactly

[@randymarsh4748]

well if ur a young car enthusiast which cant afford one yet, it kinda was never actually there, more just like i a dream u dont want to wake up from

[@smilepermile8165]

Always loved the production quality and how well researched your videos are. I'm not going to lie, I was worried if you guys were going to say something thats bad about the GR 86 but I'm glad that it wasn't the case really so much - its about how this car and the ND MX-5 could possibly be the swansong of lightweight RWD sportscars with manual gearboxes that are attainable for the masses. Therefore, I'm commenting here and liking your video so that the algorithm helps it to be promoted around KZbin as much as it can. Toyota/Subaru (+Albon) have done a public service for us, and it is the car enthusiasts' responsibility to buy these cars BRAND NEW, so that they can continue to keep producing them - instead of shifting over to SUVs like Mitsubishi have.

[@joetaka7620]

Reminds me of the emotional review that Jeremy Clarkson made about the Aston Martin V12 Vantage for the finale season of Top Gear

[@albonfilms]

Thank you for watching! You definitely hit the nail on the head! I hope for the best when it comes to the future of driver's cars.

[@vedantkothari215]

Yeah so true, I am really glad they are still making a few sportscars for a cheaper price..kinda gets ur hopes up of having something worth driving

[@smilepermile8165]

@@vedantkothari215 Exactly, you're right! So sick and tired of hearing people who complain saying 'iT nEEds A tURbo' 'nEw nIsSan Z hAs wAY mORe pIwEr fOr nOt mUCh mOre mOnEY'

[@wolf-eat-tiger]

Hope does loom over the horizon as Toyota continues to push hard in developing hydrogen engines that can allow today’s enthusiasts to continue enjoying the sounds of well tuned exhaust notes and a feeling that an electric motor will never be able to replicate

[@georgepacheco9983]

In south America there is an off-road electric bike made by an Australian company dat has the motor screams. It's a crazy bike, but hydrogen is going be the wat replaces gas and I'm for it. It's the sweet spot of HP and torque between gas and diesel.

[@groundhabit6408]

Imagine developing something that has very little infrastructure for... There are only 13 hydrogen pumps int he entire Uinted states ... As much as hydrogen sounds good , it's way too expensive to upscale ... Meanwhile there is electricity in every household and businesses ... That infrastructure is already in place

[@georgepacheco9983]

@@groundhabit6408 ppl said sat about Tesla almost 4 yrs ago now look. It's gonna take time. There is demand for it now

[@wolf-eat-tiger]

@@groundhabit6408 the thing is that fossil fuel will have a significantly lower demand soon enough which leaves plenty of gas stations open to hydrogen conversion

[@groundhabit6408]

@@wolf-eat-tiger conversion are not cheap ... At times conversions cost more than doing it clean from the jump ... There are hundreds of empty stations nation wide ... Not one has been converted for a reason ... The fact that every single home is a potential " gas station " for EVs it's easier and cheaper to role them out

[@RobiticDuck]

First time I saw the FRS (2012) I was instantly captured by how it looked. Wanted one since high school. Thankfully the platform had everything I wanted in a car. Decent power, good looks, aftermarket support and a fair price tag. After driving a few beater cars in my early 20s I managed to snag myself a nice galaxy blue BRZ Limited for a good deal at the age of 24.

[@housespider]

Hell yeah! I'm 18 now and I'm in the market to snag myself one of these. Overall how'd you rate the car?

[@RobiticDuck]

@@housespider I really love driving my car! I don't have any real complaints from daily driving goes. I don't beat on my car, keep up with maintenance. So I've had no issues yet. Currently sitting at 94k miles. I also daily all year around in Canada. It handles well in snow, just need a good set of winter tires and some weight in the trunk. I have a blast, definitely happy with my purchase.

[@housespider]

@@RobiticDuck Sounds like a good time! I'll definitely have to get looking

[@lariosmendoza]

The car is dog shit, if you want mine I’m selling it for 10k , 2016 halo white, 50k miles on the odometer. The only mods I’ve done to it is leaving my essence of skin flakes

[@rasha2093]

@@lariosmendoza why do you hate it ? is it because it’s slow or something else ?

[@grentperez]

man, the video quality is amazing

[@bruhwth]

OMG GRENTT

[@KayJune]

Yo what?? I was just listening to your music, what’s up!

[@rushilkisoon]

I didn’t expect 13 minutes to pass so quickly… we need moreeeeee. The calm presentation of facts and awesome cinematics was amazing!

[@jaredmills9147]

My dad sold his Ae86 in the late 90's. If only he had kept it.

[@itsBepizz]

Too bad you can't be the protagonist

[@razvanworks]

i love the fact that car companies are bringing the old cars back...kinda

[@albonfilms]

We love our nostalgia

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

yeah like the new Countach

[@razvanworks]

@@someguywithmtndew5691 and the 400z, the integra

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

@@razvanworks yeah i forgot

[@ajrhy6243]

@@razvanworks the new integra is a civic that somehow got uglier, it’s an abomination

[@marianojrivera8101]

Ngl, I like that the 86 came back modernized, but I'm busy rebuilding my dad's old nissan stanza. He got that car when I was born and seeing it sit there and rot gave me enough motivation to make it mine and keep it going

[@saabastiana4111]

Haven't watched car reviews for years and it's refreshing to see a new channel that has quality and knows their stuff.

[@sandarusandeepa8993]

This channel is a hidden gem. Algorithm finally found this few hours ago and oooo boi.From Nissan CEO to TRD's death to this.❤️👌 superb content. Keep up the good work.

[@caneryasar]

I'm 22 and almost at the point of finishing the university. Never had a car, always dreamed of owning a car since I remember. After graduating I need to find a job, have a stable income then I will be able to try to make my dream come true. But new cars become much more electrified every year and fun gasoline cars get lesser and pricier. I just want to own a fun car before I will be slaved to using public transform, since I don't plan to own any electric powered cars no matter what.

[@oneobjective5448]

There are still plenty of used cars that are fun and not electrified. Cars between the years 2005 - 2013 can be found for a good deal

[@GT1Zero]

Yeah dude the 8th or 9th Gen Civic Si is still fun to drive, affordable, and usable every day.

[@caneryasar]

@@oneobjective5448 Depends on where do you live actually. I mean you gotta spend more than ten times the minimum wage to at least but a working 90s economy car in where I live.

[@omaraly8622]

Buy golf GTI, 86's are trash don't waste your money and hopes

[@caneryasar]

@@omaraly8622 I mean it's up to the buyers preference and taste to determine if something is a trash for them but I wouldn't even come close to buying a 99 VW Polo 1.4 with more than 200k kilometers without working for at least 3 to 4 years and saving nonstop after graduating. And I even count myself being optimistic by giving 3-4 years.

[@ernestorivera4083]

After driving the first gen and having so much fun driving, I need the gr86. It was never about being the fastest it was about the joy it gave you while you drove it.

[@TheCharmIsGlobal]

How about miata

[@ernestorivera4083]

@@TheCharmIsGlobal here a miata costs almost 50 grand

[@lukasaustria9529]

@@ernestorivera4083 in austria the miata (Mazda 5 its called here) starts at 52k , for 55k you get the Supra . Still toyota didnt annouced the price of this one here but i think its at 35k+ and i would love to buy one

[@CCGtavern]

These are the perfect track/touge car to me. With the fixed torque curve and the extra chassis rigidity along with that low center of gravity make me enjoy it more than a miata. I think that speaks bounds

[@Save.the.legends]

Awesome job. I loved the fact that this was much more than a review. It was a love letter to the 86. Thanks 🙏. I own a '76 & '86 Corolla (16 years), I've been on the fence about the GR86 but considering it might be the end of an era I've really been considering buying one new. It'll be my first new car and I've owned many.

[@rattyratstuff7125]

wait for the gr corolla dude. i know 6 ae86 nuts in my town that got supras. 5 of them catastrophically failed and were refunded. another 7 dumped ae86 and got brz frs{gt86 isnt a thing, its not a car} and all of them went into full build mode. then last 2 years they all dumped them butn cant afford to buy back their 86s XD

[@rattyratstuff7125]

have 2 86s and an 81 corona. fixing up one 86 to sell to buy gr corolla and keeping my first 86 i bought.

[@Blight-fp3vt]

Its true! But its because of emissions, not because its not awesome :)

[@albonfilms]

This guy knows!

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

Yup, government ruins all good things.

[@nephilimdj]

@@FRWD_FXLRST Toyota have hybrid engines that make 150Kw (in Lexus and SUV), sure they could of easily increased it a bit and put it in here

[@Aglai76]

Electric Cars are far worse for the environment. Not to say I'm anti-eco-friendly cars, Hydrogen cars are *actually* better for the environment, it's just that this push for electric is misplaced

[@Blight-fp3vt]

@@Aglai76 They are not ideal at the moment just due to the rear earths and such in the motor magnets, not to mention battery production. But they are generally good idea for the future that is very much a reenable power supply. I'll certainly hope at least hybrids with efuels are tech that sticks around.

[@RedspencerIS350]

Today has been a great day with multiple online reviews of the GR86 but your channel stood out as being the most comprehensive with the heritage and lineage of the AE86 and how it transitioned to today's iteration (and possibly the last of its kind) of the beloved classic.

[@albonfilms]

Thank you so much, I appreciate that a lot!

[@mormaina.k]

Loved the “goh” noise of the engine that was described perfectly. The drag race was good to see wondered how much faster GR86 was in a draggy race.

[@hayamax3539]

Why is this channel underrated . The production quality is the same or even better than others .

[@badboy-gn8fu]

I have a 2014 FRS and still get compliments today about how beautiful the car is.

[@SkaMacanan]

I would always look at the 86 lineage with nostalgia. Affordable and attainable.

[@rodrigoqueirozdeloyola7159]

Been watching you guys since the tokyo vlogs. Really happy to see every new upload.

[@albonfilms]

Thank you so much Rodrigo! It's honestly thanks to support from longtime viewers like yourself that we get to keep making these videos.

[@ihashinc567]

I’ve been watching you guys for years now. I feel like a big break is coming. U guys are so underrated!

[@jorgeignaciolopezaparicio5260]

Your comments are very on key with great examples.

[@sreimert]

My **mom** had one of the original 1600cc 16 valve front-engine, rear-drive Corollas! She was quite the driver and really put it through it's paces. We knew then that it was awesome, but I didn't realize it was *legendary* until I saw this vid.

[@juliantran4081]

THE 86 is back... honestly it still looks really good imo

[@nightdriver7216]

Young enthusiast with little money in America is probably looking at 5k catfish Camaro Z28 in the used car lot, not a 32k compact Toyota with a Subaru everything.

[@elgueroaero]

But the enthusiast in their early thirties finds this just right 😄.

[@jeffreymun3099]

It may be doomed, but at least we finally get standard armrests! Rejoice, my fellow forearms and elbows!

[@stephenpeacock8592]

Great, mature content, the narrative of the past and future of the 86 really sets this review apart. Good work.

[@busywl69]

love how they put things into proper perspective. The word car is going to mean something different 10 years from now

[@falcongamer58]

I preferred the BRZ design over the GT86, but now i prefer the GR86 design over the new BRZ

[@WiaderkoPiasku]

Damn, you earned my subscription with this one. You entered a tough market with this video since basically every other car channel is reviewing the gr86 right now too and everyone is incredibly invested because of its significance. Yet, I'm really amazed by both the level of insight and production quality, especially looking at your sub count. You guys are criminally underrated. Hope my comment, like and sub help change that a little bit.

[@kinglolo88]

We need to keep these cars alive!

[@strickostricko]

We can only do that by buying them, in numbers. I bet YOU don’t!

[@turleyy1367]

Car is amazing , nailed the looks interior & exterior and still kept its identity!!! Love it

[@turleyy1367]

But I don’t understand why everybody thinks hybrid/electric = no fun you get way more torque!!! Watch when these new super fast Hybrid more affordable cars come out everybody hop on board

[@aphromew4502]

Always nice when you find another automotive youtube channel with high production quality

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

In roughly three years, when the first leased models get turned back in and my Tc is paid off... I'm getting one (brz or gr86). Already informed the wife, put on the calendar.

[@amarb8217]

I really love the efforts put in these videos.

[@albonfilms]

Thank you Amar!

[@tizodd6]

Despite what the "purists" claim...the GR86 objectively needs more power. The original 86 was so great because it handled well AND was decently quick for the time. Toyota should have left the mk5 Supra with only the 3.0 turbo, and added a more powerful 86 to fill the gap between the base 86, and the Supra. Toyota shot the 86 in the foot with the 2.0 Supra (that no one wants...because who really wants a slow Supra?).

[@itsme-rd9ib]

Yeah, the 2.0 Supra was an odd decision. But I guess it's important to remember that even the mk4 had an n/a model. But like you pointed out...no one really wanted, or remembers, that one.

[@shabs2134]

The power difference between the GR86 and the 2.0 Supra is not as big as you think. Toyota are purposefully trying to undercut the power of the GR86 to try and prevent it from competing with the Supra. Independent testers have confirmed that the GR86 has around 250 bhp compared to the 228 bhp which Toyota is claiming. And that is perfect.

[@matrucious]

Im surprised youtube recommended me this.. but i'm very happy it happened

[@saviordream]

Been watching a bunch of GR86 videos, as I'm really interested in the car. Had a 2018 BRZ for a few months before it was totaled in an accident, and now I have a 2020 MX-5 Club for a weekend fun car. I love it, but I can't help but feel the 86 calling my name again, as for the brief time I had it I really loved it. I also just wanted to say I really loved the work you put into this video. It was a great presentation, and one of the best I'd watched on this car. You just earned a new subscriber, and I'm looking forward to watching more of your releases.

[@KanoValentine]

Sure hope this video isn't controversial

[@Slays_Media]

I can't wait to see how these things perform with breather mods and polished heads. It wouldn't be crazy to expect 250hp and 200ftlbs from the naturally aspirated motor, which is a great sweet spot to aim for in a chassis like this.

[@carlife_710]

See I don’t understand how people get excited about a car with good suspension, when is doesn’t have enough power to chirp the tires. If it had at least 300 hp this car would be the next big thing but they didn’t

[@BayAreaRushHour]

@@carlife_710 come in even a prius can chirp the tires you do not need a whole lot of horsepower to get those wheel spinning. I agree with the other guy I think for this chassis 250 hp is the sweet spot, just it felt slow cuz the midrange torque is terrible. You don’t hear many people complain about the fiesta st being too slow since it has a greater torque curve that gives the illusion of more overall power, even though both produce the same amount of horsepower

[@carlife_710]

@@BayAreaRushHour that’s because the fiesta st is turbo and can easily gain a good amount of TQ and HP with bolt ons and tune, you can’t do that with this car. The Fiesta bolt ons and tune will beat this car with the same mods

[@eatdirt13]

CarLife_ but… it’s a Fiesta…

[@Julianklaus]

Vehicle currently makes 240hp on dyno…

[@falcongamer58]

Why do governments have to keep adding more restrictions to options over time

[@JohnS-il1dr]

Because they want us out of our cars and ride bikes 20 miles to work while they get tax payer funded SUVs

[@Smokkedandslammed]

My coworker let's me borrow his BRZ when my cars go down and it's always a fuckin blast, that car is amazing

[@kennethnguyen98]

Such good quality videos! Here before you blow up!

[@Boxrobly]

The new GR86's styling is cool

[@albonfilms]

I like it a lot!

[@wes276]

The star of the show is really that new FA24 engine. I’ve heard more than once how it solves so many problems Subaru engines used to have, and isn’t as weak as the FA20 before it. I hope so, that could do so much for the STi

[@The2004STi]

Oh the optimism of the past regarding the STi comment.

[@tomsinoibo9184]

It's a car built for enthusiasts. Toyota has more than enough econoboxes to keep cash flow stable. So it's safe to say they can afford to build stuff like this once in a while.

[@traviswalker8933]

It was primarily developed by Subaru so yeah.

[@JD3industries]

@@traviswalker8933 All the RND was given to Subaru to produce it, And the Toyota version has far higher Quality control compared to the BRZ

[@traviswalker8933]

@@JD3industries it has better shocks but the rest of it is the same.

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

Toyota don't do any econemy cars They have daihatsu for that

[@ganesh_328]

i’m a newer subscriber, and i’m very impressed with the content. Thank you!

[@CrantRigley]

Finally someone that says the name correctly

[@cristix2696]

I'm buying my first new car and i really want this one! I'm so excited to be able to own my first sports car!

[@robster230]

Great video, much more thoughtful than a lot of I've seen today. I'm not sure on the styling, i think it's too soft all over, but I'll grow on me sure for. Having owned an 86 I'm not sure I want another, but I'm really glad they're keeping these alive and it's not electric yet!

[@victorchea7671]

Am I the only one who's tired of the BRZ/86 identity-mistake jokes just like the Toyota/BMW Supra mistaken identity jokes? I mean it was funny in the beginning but now these grown ups sound childish going on and on with these jokes. Talk about rolling my eyes 🙄

[@endergamer7444]

well the brz joke is a lot less annoying than people going "nice bmw" under *every* supra video

[@victorchea7671]

@@endergamer7444 agreed

[@SweetJuliaBrown]

"Those who are fast on the straights are amaturs, those who are fast on the corners are intermediate, and those who are fast in the areas in between straights and corners are the real experts. this is the essences of the ultimate street driving theory" A quote i heard some where

[@BayAreaRushHour]

Yeah a quote straight out of the last episode initial d stage one

[@zero_star3534]

a quote from some ryosucc

[@MrMannyhw]

That’s obviously. This is why 86 sux as it’s gutless and would be left in the dust on a straight. To be fast is to be fast in both on the corners and straights. This is why Japanese will always be on catch up as the Italians and Germans perfected their art long ago. Made car with carbon fibre or aluminum to cut weight with a bigger flat engine.

[@2HRenovation]

Your quality is top notch! Enjoy watching your channel grow.

[@TheBattery124]

I like how the appearance of the car didn't change dramatically.

[@YouilAushana]

Can't wait for the Mazda Hybrid Rotary engine! Hopefully its a 20B twin turbo with hybrid engine and regenerative gizmos super car!

[@philspaghet]

Man I love this car! To me, it feels like the culmination of everything that is lightweight Japanese RWD. I'm seriously considering trading in my S2000 for it if I like it enough!

[@albonfilms]

Definitely test drive it and see! I'm happy that it exists for sure!

[@oneobjective5448]

Don't trade your S2000! it'll only go up in value and it's awesome

[@MiraSubieGirl]

Yeah if you trade your S2000 for one of these thats a mistake... S2000 is timeless and will grow in value very consistently. The 86 will never even be considered a Classic and thrown in junkyards...

[@philspaghet]

@@MiraSubieGirl If I can afford it I'd like to keep both but I plan on getting an AE86 first so it'll be a tough sell

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

@@MiraSubieGirl You are so incredibly wrong. GR86 will become classic for sure.

[@matiasclark-becker2689]

I love the gt86 and it’s my favourite car. I gotta say that the design route on the gr86 is slightly disappointing but in general it still looks like a great car😁

[@devonswindell9735]

I'm not a huge fan of the accord tail lights and 400z headlights

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

Is it that disappointing? I thought it did pretty well in terms of modern design. Compared to the second version of the Z with the front end grille or like the awful plastic design from WRX or the Acura accor- I mean integra.

[@eatCURRInation]

Loving the editing quality

[@ejque9611]

GR86 brought me here...and my, time flew faster than the way they did while driving the car in this great documentary and review! 👏

[@bernardmorabito8919]

The whole push towards electrification is a crock. It still takes the same co2 to make a car regardless of what powers it. Too bad consumers don’t send a message to car makers about what the market wants. I’m happy that my accountant will finally have his day at the drag strip in his electric whatever but I’ll be holding on to my V8 until they prise that fuel injector out of my cold dead hand.

[@SnowWolf9999]

If I remember right one of the world environmental research institutes admitted that because over 75% of all electricity still comes from fossil fuels at the moment a BEV doesn't become carbon neutral until 75k on the odometer

[@fortheloveofnoise]

I'll die before ever going electric or giving up the manual transmission.

[@Treaxvour]

Just think of it as a small parting gift from Toyota, before combustion engines leave us forever. RIP combustion vehicles, 1886-2030. But I have a feeling there will be a NA 2030 86.

[@connorcampbell5274]

Who knows, ICE might still hold on with hydrogen engines. Allegedly the rx9 concept car is running H2.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

2030 in most countries, but not all. They will live on well past that in 3rd world countries and some first world countries

[@PURENT]

@@connorcampbell5274 It won't. Hydrogen fuel cells are way more efficient than hydrogen combustion.

[@connorcampbell5274]

@@PURENT tell me that when there's a platinum shortage lol. You can't overhaul industrial society reliant solely on a rare earth element.

[@Treaxvour]

@@fortheloveofnoise I meant 2030 for Japan, therefor Toyota. GM will also be only electric in 2030 as well as dodge taking making challengers and chargers only electric in 2024, Leaving America with just the mustang, and German vehicles. At least until 2035 when we lose them too.

[@NewSparky97]

I currently drive a 2015 STi. With the looming release of the GR Corolla hatchback, I'm planning to return to my Toyota roots. Every other car I've had was a Toyota celica. With the feeling that this is gonna be the end of an Era, and end that I welcome even as an enthusiast, I want to participate. I want to look at Toyota and say "I see what you're doing. I thank you, and I will remember it."

[@tommynobaka]

what would be interesting is people uninstalling the electric drivetrain of hybrid enthusiast cars to get that old school enthusiast feel i don't think its gonna be happen, but if im already thinking about it, then perhaps someones bound to do it

[@meganoobbg3387]

Pfft. They wont need to, trust me. Electric cars wont replace gasoline cars until an alternative for lithium batteries, not to mention a fast recharging mechanism is invented for electric cars. Electric cars still have overheating problems in hot climate, and capacity problems in cold weather. They're just not practical yet.

[@sergiogonzalez8080]

These video productions are REALLY good. I mean, in depth and the quality.. keep it up!

[@subzero4790]

It's the looming future of alternate fuel cars that is discouraging car designers from going all in.

[@Msuero2010]

I thought this was going to be another random video made by some 20 somethings with no camera skills. I was SOOO wrong. Excellent job guys! I couldnt stop watching!

[@alibabar3093]

Impressive car bio, with reference videos like always. This has become one of my favorite channels. Thanks guys !

[@ninjascroll1017]

Best review ive seen so far

[@229Mike]

This is probably one of the best review / summary I’ve seen for the platform

[@ReasonablySane]

I bought a new FRS in 2013 (six speed manual). It was my commuter, primarily. I drove the 150 mile round trip from my home in south central rural Kentucky to my office in downtown Louisville, KY. Because my route was about 2/3 smooth Kentucky twisties, I did a LOT of drifting an had a blast. And instead of radar cops, they keep our speed down by using deer. So it was doubly fun. No, I never hit one but had a few close calls. When the pandemic hit and we went full time WFH, the car had 186k miles on it. The service dept. rep at the dealership and I became friends because he saw me so much. This is partly due to me having three scions (first gen xB and an iA). I went through 9 sets of tires, most of witch wer either Bridgestone Potenzas and Michelin SS. I settled on the latter, though the current set is the S4's, since the SS's are no longer available. Oh, and I still own it, but it spends most of the time in the garage. It has literally become the car driven only to church on Sundays by an old man. I retired two months ago. It still has less than 187K miles on it. I've thought about selling it, but every now and then I'll take it out for a spin, and I just love the way it feels to drive it. I appreciate it even more now that I don't drive it long distances every day. It is rock solid reliable and I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle of selling it, especially since I now have a very nice garage shop to keep it in all the time. I guess I'll become like that old guy I knew when I was a kid that had a pristine MG-TC in his garage that he hardly ever drove. BTW, the power has never been an issue for me. In the 70's I drove an Opel GT. It had nowhere near the power this car has and I was fine with its power as well. I consider it a sports car, not a muscle car. And I like the "1960's feel" of driving it. I've owned 31 cars in my life, and this car is, without a doubt the most fun car I've ever owned. I believe it will be remembered as a true classic long after I'm dead. BTW, when I bought it I thought about the Mazda Miata, but I needed a car that could carry a bass and amp to rehearsals and some gigs. This car handled it no sweat. On a side note, I MUCH prefer the look of the rear of the FRS/BRZ to the new back end (specifically, tail lights). I don't have television so the first one I ever saw was one on the road. My first view was from the back in a different lane and I HAD TO know what kind of car it was. A month later I owned one. Edit: The one thing I really HATE about the car is that it needs premium gas. But in the end, that's minor compared to the pluses, especially since I'm no longer filling up every two days. :)

[@RuthlessShadowGamer]

Beautiful story :) thanks

[@FriskyTentacles]

This video was dope. Earned my sub

[@mrslcom]

This car doesn't even need to be good to earn a place in the car museum of the future. It's a car built to represent the pure art of driving.

[@Druezer]

Your automotive focus is not mine. Having said that, this is one of the best car channels I've encountered. Articulate and thoughtful. Natural. Enthusiastic without forced humour. ("Look at me! I'm funny!") And artfully edited.

[@sahildixit7420]

the production quality just keeps getting better

[@SuikaHead]

The car isn't doomed. We are. Loved your video.

[@Unmei_Ka]

The ultimate clickbait title, but the video was of high quality and well verbalized. Good job, guys.

[@marcerab16]

I was super surprised with the video quality since the subscriber count is only 80k but good job I like your channel keep it up & I have to admit I could definitely use that 1k to buy school books rn 😂

[@samkong2741]

86 becomes famous is not because of what you quoted, it was all because of the comic “Initial D”

[@nemui9654]

That was how I know of it as well.

[@duncanspeel9657]

Love your vids

[@cooperlong5413]

Great vid- loved the history piece you worked in.

[@muhammedali4919]

Awesome video! Great content. Learning a lot

[@fredglaeser9199]

Tada San placed a 2000GT in the studio where the original 86 was designed. This new 86 strikes me as even more similar to the track designed 2000GT with its torque, high rev power and more aggressive stance.

[@miketbone8007]

Liked the history you present on the Toyota 86!

[@bravofighter]

BTW, your videos rock HARD. Subbed!

[@foster7517]

they were doomed as soon as they added the lil speaker that plays engine noise so your car actually sounds fast an cool lmao

[@zacharyquinton1198]

Love your videos ...a new fav KZbinr for shaw! About to binge all your work 🙂✌

[@brauliofigueroa8469]

Great video! I'm actually happy that the 1st gen FRS/86/BRZ did so well as far as sales despite the lack of power. If it wasn't for that, we would have never received a new gen. I loved the look and affordability of the 1st gen and this model being faster and with decent looks... kind of has me wanting to get one. lol. That Miata tho...

[@thuraya2303]

This KZbin channel is the best