Alek Manoah Quit On The Blue Jays

Alek Manoah Gave Up On The Blue Jays
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[@nnis75]

You couldn't shut him up when things were going his way. Toughest guy in baseball when all was going well. Now, he quits in the face of struggle. His confidence wasn't real. It was based on his success. Which means his confidence wasn't supreme. If it is real, you are the same person on the good days as well as the bad days.

[@williamanderson6006]

never were a pitcher I see

[@johnwayne9828]

You just described Madison Bumgarner.

[@nnis75]

@johnwayne9828 We meet and deal with people like Manoah daily. A large number of our population are just people pretending to be what they are not.

[@xavierharding8938]

@@nnis75 Amen brother !

[@williamanderson6006]

@@nnis75 such as a poser on youtube pretending to know it all

[@Mastaace]

If it's true it looks extremely bad on him. Does he not realize the Jay's sent down Roy freaking Halladay back in the day and he only came back to a hall of fame career?? And he's way younger than Roy was at that time ie he's lucky to be in the Major's at that age in the first place.

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

“If I don’t like it, pitch better.” - David Price

[@UchuKejiMovan]

Halladay came back extremely nasty

[@Bk6346]

Hope it’s not the case but some people are quitters. Maybe he doesn’t want to put in the work to be a professional athlete.

[@keithck3720]

That's why Halladay is one of my favourite pitchers of all time. It takes grace and humility to swallow your pride like that and do some self reflection and assessment. That he not only did that but came back to arguably become the best pitcher of that era demonstrates the kind of person he was.

[@MadarakiFran]

Personality makes or breaks a career sometimes

[@riotgamerz1605]

So he’s a crybaby 😂

[@LincolnHawk-bk5yr]

Roy Halliday was sent down to Rookie ball too. He had character though and decided to learn from it. He came back a Hall of Famer.

[@peterweiss6140]

He came back this year heavier than 2022, I don’t think his out of shape body could take it. Ryu came back having lost weight, Kikuchi didn’t go back to Japan during the off season and stayed behind in Arizona. He apparently pitched most every day sending tapes to Pete Walker for tips either good or bad. Look at them both now whoever would have thought these two would pitch like that, I think Manoah hit the big time too fast and too hard his arrogance showed on the mound to other batters. I doubt we will see him back just by not following instructions laid out by upper management, wish him well I do hope he can turn himself around.

[@stevencooke6451]

Those two are professionals with character. Menoah is a man child.

[@mikey._.33]

apparently he was 30lbs overweight, probably meaning he'd done nothing but party over the winter. Sad to see

[@brettb9541]

Being a blue jays fan has been utter torture as of late. - Depressed blue jays fan

[@kamenrob8500]

Fuck the team for the woke bullshit Rogers has embraced and inflicted upon the team , honestly hope they tank and never win again , 92 and 93 were real memories and when players refuse to come play for us maybe you'll learn.

[@dopy8418]

What do you mean… we are in the hunt for a wildcard spot…. Stop crying Brittney….

[@awiildlucas3802]

@@dopy8418 you must've completely looked over our texas series, we've won the first two against boston but its been overly stressful all month. we can't hit.

[@dopy8418]

@@awiildlucas3802 Ok but it’s not like we’re the A’s or the Yankees…We’re 2nd in the wildcard race. Guerrero and Chapman are waking up. All we need is Bichette to get started and we’ll be fine. Not depressing at all…

[@brettb9541]

@@dopy8418 Clearly you don't watch this team at all.

[@nco_gets_it]

watching him pitch has led me to believe that his problem is mechanics...which is likely what the coaching staff of the Jays think as well...which is why they are sending him down. The minor leagues are more than just replacement depots for major league teams. There is far more instructional coaching at that level. Manoah knows this is just proving he has become uncoachable.

[@Billy_theBeane]

I agree. He definitely doesn’t do any leg work. He’s overweight as well.

[@danr154]

Hes fat and cant deal with the pitch clock also.

[@DixieRect]

Makes you wonder if the pitch clock got to him

[@barjay27]

He needs the winter to cool off.

[@gravitywell7650]

Completely agree.

[@Alex.Jensen]

Never liked this kid.

[@brendansilva1710]

never been a fan of him, always seemed like a douche… not surprised

[@LilMacYT]

Alek Manoah was my favorite player last year and I got tickets to see him pitch against the Padres. Now I’m just disappointed

[@wutangisforever2798]

You are a tool if you are a Manoah fan. Just like he is.

[@georgemoody1544]

Why??

[@mikes7446]

Awww

[@LilMacYT]

I was a fan of him during his prime. I really didn’t wanna give up on him but it may be time 🤷‍♂️

[@danlowe]

Don't buy the media BS. They know nothing and the team isn't going to say 'we wanted to cut him to avoid minimum innings pay.'

[@rafajf]

Hes got that teddy bear in him

[@doubledown8229]

Good thing Hyun Jin Ryu is pitching good.

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

Correct. Who needs that human cancer.

[@pwj86772]

Pitching well*

[@whiteyford255]

​@@pwj86772You must be a blast at parties.

[@caseypayne5138]

Not even a single mention of him losing control and breaking Taylor Ward's face with a pitch?!

[@andyp899]

Right. First guy ever to be hit by a pitch 🙄

[@caseypayne5138]

@@andyp899 Yeah because getting your face smashed in and your season ending and then needing to get 3 plates installed on your skull to fix the damage is the same thing as getting beaned and taking a base 🤣 It was probably the lowest point in Manoah's stint in the MLB this year

[@theapocilip]

Manoah can’t throw a strike this year, you think he aimed at someones head on purpose?

[@caseypayne5138]

@@theapocilip No, but it was a really bad accident and I'm sure it fucked him up mentally

[@zachleary108]

But he doesn't have the right to be angry at anyone but himself for being sent back down. That's baseball. When things are going well the guy is all bluster and talking s*it and then when he has to get humble, learn and take advice he's nowhere to be found. That is the very definition of someone that I wouldn't want on my team.

[@Emerald489]

He probably needs the Rays treatment ngl

[@dannyb1441]

He could have a really bad case of the yips, and just isnt feeling right. The extra physicals makes me think he feels off at the moment. It can derail a whole career pretty quick, just look up how Daniel Bard's career has been.

[@valk_7233]

I also think he has the yips, it would certainly explain how quickly and how spectacularly he falled off.

[@petermurdoch3001]

things went south after he beaned that young batter

[@Adaman135]

Extra physicals are an excuse to be on the IL so they can use the roster spot

[@dannyb1441]

@@Adaman135 he isn't even on the IL, so not sure where that comes from. Even if they did that, the extra physicals showed nothing so they wouldn't be able to do it anyways. According to docs his arm is fine.

[@w1ntertide]

None of the heavy set pitchers have done well this year with pitch clock right?

[@jackharrist1078]

He should reach out to Gerrit Cole and ask for his old Spider Tack plug because he could definitely use some right now😂

[@stevemahoney1733]

I'm reminded of a saying in the addiction / recovery community which I believe fit's here..... Sobriety is easy when life is going your way. Manoah needs to look inside & find that drive. The drive brings motivation. Motivation brings humility Humility leads to the drive to return to "the show".

[@pwj86772]

Mcdonalds is his drive

[@fromulus]

Manoah wouldn't know humility if it hit a grand slam off him.

[@pm5206]

Maybe he wants to do something else in his life. He has that right and I respect that.

[@Bk6346]

Some people are quitters. They can’t handle adversity or make the sacrifices to be a professional athlete. Look how overweight the guy is.

[@stevemahoney1733]

@@pm5206 So you respect someone who it seems has given up after he signs a contract, a commitment not only to the Toronto baseball organization but to each & every team mate & himself. I think you & I have a very different understanding of both team mates & respect.

[@greatunz67]

I think his problem is drugs related. People have been going on about his weight but hes not much fatter than he was last year. He also got engaged earlier this year so who knows maybe its woman problems. But hes defintely psyched out.

[@johnisouth6636]

He will find a fit somewhere. This happens sometimes. A guy needs a new environment every once in awhile.

[@uken6809]

Yup, I think he'll do well in another team, same thing happened to Bellinger and now he's having a good season with the Cubs.

[@pinheadlarry1327]

Jays fan here: the team gave him so much time at the start of the year to find his stuff when he was terrible (big reason the jays are out of the wild card currently cause he went 0-8) and then still brought him back after shaky starts in the minors. Now he’s gonna complain like this after getting sent down again? He’s had about half a year to fix his pitching I don’t think there’s a single other team contending for the postseason that would’ve given him as much leeway as the jays did

[@ayayron_wrx]

I think it’s important to mention he hit Taylor ward in the face and was shaken up about the whole deal. Ending wards season on a very ugly injury

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

I feel that’s more on the Angels bad luck. That clearly wasn’t intentional

[@taustin266]

@@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigiThat’s kind of the point.. as a pitcher, you didn’t mean to do that, and yet you did.. it can completely derail your self confidence and make you feel terrible.

[@ntodd4110]

I think he did garner the hostility of other teams, because early on he hit batters a lot. Carrying around a bad rep like that as a rookie must have been mentally wearing.

[@emupike6]

​@@ntodd4110 he didn't care about hate, and he liked batters to worry about getting hit lol

[@Bern1808]

Couldn't happen to a "nicer guy." Solid citizen.

[@frontierfishingwithryanmac1981]

If he does it to the Blue Jays who says he won't do it to the next team he joins this off season! This was a TERRIBLE career move for the Manoah camp... we will see how many teams will bite at the chance to pick him up in the fast approaching off season for the Jays...

[@Harcorwrestler]

For sure there will be teams. One year deals are popular. There are a lot of desperate teams out there

[@Eh-ot4vz]

The Jays have him under control for 3 or 4 more years. He's not going anywhere.

[@luisjalvareztorres8481]

Verdugo broke this man 🤣🤣

[@pinheadlarry1327]

*the mariners broke him last year in the wild card

[@5100yes]

He needs to grow up ! Shit happens! He needs to get in the Minors , work on his form again and then come back the same Manoah in 2022!

[@barrydimmock5771]

I recall Roy Halladay had to do the same thing, but he had guts and worked things out, ended up being one of the best.

[@willrobinson1671]

The biggest change over the off season was the addition of the pitch clock. I'm just wondering if that messed with his head. Maybe he feels if he can't pitch at his own pace, he's not in control? Just a thought.

[@MadarakiFran]

A truly good pitcher can adjust, it's not an excuse

[@j.g.dawson1499]

I wondered that as well. Not able to adjust like other pitchers have.@@MadarakiFran

[@wiggleword]

Last year, he was the slowest working pitcher in the league. This year, he shows up at spring training out of shape, can't adapt to the speed of the pitch clock, and then is surprised when he can no longer perform.

[@cnote9958]

Nothing better than seeing someone with a big mouth get humbled!!!!

[@parkercrossland410]

Exhibit A as to why I have never trusted fat guys on the mound. He uses his weight to generate velo, and from what I've seen his lower half is not doing as much work as it did last year which is causing his upper half mechanics to slightly compensate. He basically looks like he's pitching lazier.

[@timmytom4447]

Mental health struggles should be recognized as health struggles. Publicly stating he’s giving up on his team lacks respect and compassion

[@lesliejacoby9137]

As great as he was though saying him for Cy young this year was a bit crazy when he isn't even the best pitcher on his own team (imo) to begin with. Gausman is the Gerrit Cole of the Blue Jays except he would be lucky for the team to even win the game after hes finished pitching 😂.

[@hunterhose347]

The MLB all diva team just added a new player to their roster

[@1Plebeian]

Damn, you hate to see it happen to such a nice guy and sportsman.

[@dapcee9352]

Who? Not sure if you know, this video is about Alek Manoa

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

@@dapcee9352sarcasm

[@bradleythebuilder8743]

It’s always the saints who go through hell. God bless that kindhearted man

[@rambleon2011]

He’s an asshole for injuring Taylor Ward, looked intentional.

[@rdc4382]

"nice guy" lol

[@jfrom214]

Roy Halladay should be a constant for pitchers, the man went the minors fixed mechanics and became the doc, couldn't touch Roy for years

[@redparrot9489]

The six part manoah pregame sports net series at the start of the season was a shocking insight. After every episode I came away thinking he experienced a lot of childhood trauma. The brain works in curious ways … I wonder if this dense retelling brought up a lot of locked up thoughts and emotions. Nothing will change unless he accepts help or understand there may be a problem.

[@redparrot9489]

@@AndreMillerSwag kindness and compassion are free.

[@solomong9653]

hes just stating a fact mans to big to compete w the pitch clock@@redparrot9489

[@StoicNature444]

What made you think he has been through trauma? What’s the series saying?

[@redparrot9489]

@@StoicNature444 there are classifications of childhood trauma (ACE) - the series did NOT identify these traumas as anything but "what happened growing up" and gave no indication they have/had any lasting effect. They outlined: parental divorce, father prison time, hint(?) at parental substance abuse, poverty including chronic food scarcity, an event where repossession of furniture (due to lack of payment) was presented as home being robbed. Those are the items I recall.

[@JohnCritch-tf4mb]

​@AndreMillerSwag I think so to.

[@djl9919]

after 2022 he's gotten engaged, he's gained weight that's not muscles. his bravado & ego making him look silly. he will not succeed until he humbles himself. find the mechanics for his body size. my 2 favorite Blue Jays Manoah & Vladdy are both having tough/down years but they remain my 2 favs.

[@gabrielv.2647]

Hiss down fall and having a down year is because of his mentality, facing adversity, getting rocked and not being able to battle back and turn the page. The great ones true great/elite get rocked and always figure it out, make the adjustments, it's a game of adjustments especially in the pros, manoah couldn't do that in my opinion. I still wish him well! Maybe a new team or change or scenery can help him. Because you don't just have the amazing year he had last year because it was a fluke. He can do it again I feel his potential can still be there again

[@WanderVibessss]

When you see a heavier athlete it’s their choice. You make enough money to easily hire personal trainers, meal preppers, etc. It’s an interesting thought for sure. I understand in sports where your weight matters, but you’d think in baseball, you’d want to be in good lean shape

[@cursedreality8615]

So sad to see such a humble player be at his low point ):

[@DJMidnight65]

Not really. He’s really an entitled piece of shit that took his major league stint for granted. Hopefully he never returns to the majors.

[@christalball93_]

but the pitch before Soto hit a homer was a strike (bad call), and Schneider fucked up and he was forced off one game where he was doing well. Some tough luck too

[@Orcasgt22]

In the off season Manoha was saying he wanted to be Torontos next big sport icon like Bautista was. Quite the opposite now

[@Boltman12278]

You don't appreciate anything until you lose it. Only the most humblest of men realize this and they are HOF. I get in my car I own, sleep in the house i own, play with my babies and sleep next to my wife. I take that for granted sometimes and understand this. This guy has the talent, athleticism, ability and just fn quits. Thousands root for you. Me, I'm lucky to get a how are you at the grocery store.

[@scooterthefrog]

He only came back up to cover a couple of starts until Ryu could prove he was ready for the rotation. If they had one more arm that was Major league ready, he would never have been rushed back. I suspect it's equal parts, mental and mechanical. instead of working tight inside, he was all over the place, and the only time he was consistently in the zone was to hang meatballs. Don't worry, thought, we still see him every game. I mean, it's in horrible Mary Brown's commercials, but he's still with us!

[@EHMSL1226]

lmao true those commercials are brutal

[@notsofresh8563]

those commercials are bad luck. The taped bat one came out around the start of springers slump, Manoah is in that commercial too. They should cancel that one.

[@ntodd4110]

That's not the only sponsor that has had that effect. There was an airline (Westjet?) that used to make crappy commercials about ten years ago using whichever player was currently hot (R.A. Dickey was one as I recall), and inevitably once he appeared in their commercial, some facet of his game would nosedive, or he'd be seriously injured. I'll bet Mary Brown would love to get their hands on Bo, but he seems to be too committed to baseball to get involved with that kind of shit. At least I hope so.

[@billymays1761]

Batter’s Box is not just for batters! Get a 6 piece crispy fried chicken, medium taters, 2 biscuits and a medium gravy for just $19.99 + tax!

[@notsofresh8563]

@@billymays1761 But wait, there's more.

[@nithilanamudhan6260]

And at the same time his 'cheater cole' is making a case for the AL Cy Young. Karma is a boomerang

[@UchuKejiMovan]

Gerrit Cole is laughing in Boston waiting for tonight's game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Dude's been quiet lately 😂

[@BlueRad90]

Alek had so much potential to be the Blue Jays main homegrown Ace, he had a rocket start to his career, An All-Star and Cy Young finalist last year. However too much talk and inflated egos got the best of him. He struggled so much and subsequently demoted to the Florida Complex League. It should be noted that Roy Halladay a HOF pitcher wasn’t great from the start. He had 10 ERA in 2000 and was demoted to single A in 2001. But thanks to his new mechanics he became a dangerous pitcher since then. If Alek continues to perform poorly like this from here on, he would likely in the list of Blue Jays “Level of Failure” (as opposed to ‘Excellence’). This is currently how I view Halladay and Manoah are polar opposites.

[@jasondousett3620]

His downfall began when he disrespected Seattle and overlooked the Mariners in the 2022 WC Series, was already looking ahead to playing Houston, when he got lit up in Game 1. What a clown.

[@cesarsalgadosalgado2199]

He asked for his release from the team instead they send him to triple A while he already informed front office that he didn't wanna be with the team anymore

[@Toasty_88]

I really liked Manoah until he pulled this stunt. I was rooting for him to come back next season strong and better then ever. I even bought a Manoah Shirsey when he was struggling because I felt like he would bounce back. I still hope he does but wow what a Diva. I will not be wearing his Shirsey again unless he proves he has changed and grows up. Maybe we can include him in a trade for Trout this off season. Seems like a bad guy to have in the clubhouse when he thinks he is more important then the team. Hopefully he can learn from the situation and grow as a teammate and person. I can't imagine any of the other players in that clubhouse are pleased with him right now. I also wonder what effect hitting Taylor Ward in the face with a 92MPH pitch had on his confidence pitching inside. He was struggling before that but that could of made his problems much worse. I know I would not trust myself to execute inside pitches after making a mistake like that. Whatever little confidence was left at that point was probably shattered along with Wards face.

[@TheSkyline5467]

He needs to get in shape. Manoah won me a league in his rookie year, and I drafted him again in 2022, but watching just highlights last year, his fastball velocity was falling off fast and I was worried about how that would play, he's way too young to have his fastball lose 5-7 MPH of velocity. He's just not in shape.

[@SheLovedMeOnPayDay]

He lost some velocity, and his slider wasn't sliding anymore. I thought he was injured.

[@emupike6]

I dont see an issue with him just taking a break. He got rocked in the bigs and the minors, even as a Jays fan i dont see an issue with him stepping away to reset. He will be back next year with a vengeance

[@flyg13]

Progrum, here in the progrum, the progrum. PROGRAM Gosh dang it! PRO GRAAAAAM! 🤣

[@meesternibbles]

Okay so he just wasn't me getting totally bothered by that

[@danr154]

Swear he was doing it on purpose.

[@flyg13]

@@meesternibbles Lol No sir, it definitely struck a chord with me for some reason and I couldn't unhear it.

[@flyg13]

@@danr154 I can't tell either. haha for some reason it just struck a chord with me and I can't unhear it.

[@farmerbrown7651]

It’s simple, Manoah for Trout

[@blacjackdaniels200]

When has talking shit ever worked out for anyone? It literally comes back to haunt them almost 100% of the time. Probably not so because of the coincidence or karma, but more so because it just denotes a certain type of character. It would be cool if you did a video with, the demise of ball players that have ran their mouth and then became nothing. You have a great channel. I enjoy it. I do a lot of traveling. I am often in the car for 10 or 12 hours at a clip, and your videos keep me busy. For that I thank you.

[@PassportsandPostcards]

The problem with Manoah is psychological. Every sport has these young players that have success and then maybe too much success and then they get overconfident. There could be other underlying mental health issues that we are unaware of. We have to look at Manoah''s contract, the Players Association Agreement with MLB. Should the Jays release Manoah outright and tear up his contract. The blame has to be balanced here. The Jays ending Manoah to rookie league earlier this year was not the right thing to do. Medically he was fit before being sent down in August. He has not pitched, who knows if he is even working out. It is time to release him on the grounds that he has not reported. The only worry is that he finds another team to latch on to and maybe gets back in the bigs and wins that Cy Young Award.

[@birdlives829]

This is interesting in the context of the fact that Toronto as a team is #1 in ERA and saves and #3 in strikeouts. Lot of pitching talent still on that team but this guy aint it apparently.

[@drlca6601]

if bats came alive and he was in form... hoowee we'd be good.

[@SDSOverfiend]

He was broken when the Yankees Sha-Lacked him. Back in May. His body language and face said it all. I remember watching that game saying “They Just broke Alek”

[@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621]

No, he was broken way before that.

[@SDSOverfiend]

@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Probably… but that game it became evident.

[@tobianish]

Why should he be angry for being sent down? He earned it

[@therealbs2000]

I remember some young stud blue jay years ago who had a good start to his career and then blew up with an 11 era and got sent down and came back with a totally different arm slot. But i heard he quit baseball too because they called him doctor or something

[@BBB4416]

Unfortunately that happens maybe one in 5 or ten thousand times

[@therealbs2000]

@@BBB4416 doc brown?

[@kamenrob8500]

Doc...

[@fromulus]

None of this surprises me at all. Manoah has always been egotistical and selfish, you saw it in how he handled himself out there. It only works when you're playing at an elite level though.

[@TheAxeGrinder]

This team is garbage. The inconsistent hitting, Guerrero and Manoah dropping off a cliff in their progression (and not caring), the whole Pride Night fiasco with Anthony Bass, and a management that coasts and revels in mediocrity. Alex Anthopoulos leaving was a warning sign.

[@lovesgucci1]

Roy Halladay, former 2x Cy Young winner of the Blue Jays & Phillies, was sent down earlier in his career and then went on to become a rockstar pitcher!!! Manoah is only 25 & is lucky that the Blue Jays organization was putting so much stock into reaching his potential. I hope - for his sake - he didn’t blow his opportunity for an amazing career

[@coco63524]

Gurriel also was sent down, I have lost respect for Manoah

[@bvldr]

RIP Roy Halladay

[@fraggevelle]

I really dig your page! Thank you

[@hannibalbarca4430]

Fat boy can’t handle the pitch clock

[@AshwinThakur]

Love your insight you provide daily on these. Much appreciated. I really love the background music you have for these vids. Are you able to provide the exact track you are using? I see you have credited Mik and Samuel but cant seem to find the exact soundtrack.

[@mattermote4761]

Huge Jays fan, but he's such an idiot for this. I'd love him to walk into a pitchers meeting and pick the starter who he thinks should go down over him. Our rotation has been amazing. Alek deserves all of this

[@martindebrois1472]

Noting what another commenter said - Most people's confidence is based on their success. Real confidence is bringing back your confidence when you've failed, in some way.

[@drogoreuak1347]

bang on video. And to the Americans watching this, playing for Toronto can be as big as playing for the Yankees or Dodgers here. You have a whole country backing the Jays. Manoah has wilted like a flower in the hot sun and how he has acted has been a disappointment.

[@dougoberg801]

Alek has to grow up a little bit, he is young and full of ADRENALIN makes good coin and is just a bit immature. Nobody really likes to get messages that they are going to be sent down but if he stops and cools out his temper and starts to realize they are doing for his betterment and the betterment of the team.

[@kevwwong]

The stuff is there, and some tweaks to his mechanics will help. But I think what the kid needs more than anything is to see a psychologist. I think this might be the first time he's performed poorly for an extended period, and it's in his head.

[@NicanTlacaWarrior1]

He should learn a full windup and a pitch to get lefties out... that'll definitely save him.

[@robcastro8357]

This is Toronto fault as a fan base . For my whole 36 years of living it's the same . Some bum does good a couple of games and we make them out to be better than they are . Especially if they say the love playing in our city , we will give them a nice long term contract

[@jonnuanez7183]

So he barely pitched 3 seasons and couldn't accept, from those that know better than him, that some things may need to be corrected? He acted like he owned baseball. Maybe some humility will help him best before any mechanics issues are addressed.

[@kj6446]

I saw a report recently that mentioned his weight went way up last off season and may have contributed to mechanical changes as well as an inability to effectively deal with the pitch clock

[@TEEDUBS]

Someone needs to knock some sense into this kid. There are SO many kids, young adults, and even grown adults that would LOVE to be in his position, yet he's pissing it al away because he's butthurt. Quit being a crybaby, get back out there, and WIN.

[@samplott8388]

Love to see it.

[@simont1709]

probably get flack for this comment but i think if he lost 20 pounds his pitching would improve if the gut wasn't in the way as much

[@daifeichu]

If a person cannot admit to a problem they are having then there is no way they are going to succeed. I've been following Trevor Bauer pitching in Japan. He had a few bad starts at the beginning of the season but he openly admitted he was sucking. He constantly worked on it and now he's one of the better pitchers in Japan. Manoah has way too much attitude and needs to swallow it, work on his game or it's not going to be good for him.

[@tianly6177]

Does anyone even remember Ricky Romero....this he is not the first to collapse. At least he didn't sign a big contract like Romero.

[@FIowMotion]

Alek Manoah, Cristian Javier and Dylan Cease were my picks for best pitchers in AL with Cease taking home the Cy Young, they all are having bad years lol.

[@mss627]

Whenever I see a fat athlete it tells me he's not serious about maximizing his talent. Dude! Your body is your meal ticket. Take care of it.

[@warwick269]

Came in out of shape and couldn’t keep up with the pitch clock. Hope he trains in the off season like Kikuchi did and shows up ready for spring training

[@MyMarkn]

His actions lately make me think he's trying to get the Jay's to release him. That's not going to happen. He's under team control for another 3 years. He has zero trade value right now, so he needs to get his shit together, or his career is over.

[@alexeiphoto]

The trip down to Dunedin was to work on mechanics. In that first start I’m pretty sure he was told to just throw strikes. He was having issues with walking people, so they wanted to make sure he could throw the ball down the middle. Doesn’t matter how many runs are scored on him, they just wanted him to throw strikes

[@bigbearkat2010]

If rookie ball players are able to shell him that badly, I'm pretty sure it matters a little

[@kurtisheidt2249]

Apparently he came in to camp at 320vpounds if thats true as a blue jays fan screw him abd he was one of my favorites wish they still had stroman

[@veritasinvicta8128]

Not only is Alek Cupcakes a mess but his "rival" (In his own mind) Gerrit Alan Cole looks like a lock for this year's Cy Young. Ouch, that has to be salt in the wound for big mouth Alek.

[@MiC-T]

Baseball gods demand humility or they will teach you humility.

[@chrislang6698]

that sense of entitlement is really bad.. karma finally got him. his big mouth made teams extra motivated to burn him imo. he needs to lose some weight as well. he claims to have spent a lot of time in the weight room but he looks chubby on the mound.

[@marieabineau]

could not handle the pressure....plain and simple...confidence is 80% of pro sports...

[@TysonHook-22-]

I believe Manoah bounces back big next year, whether thats in a Jays uni or not is still to be determined... but I feel hes gonna be out to prove to everyone that this seasons disaster was a complete outlier for him and he'll try to distance himself from the memory of this season as much as possible.... cy young bounce back? This ordeal also makes me wonder if the Jays have an underlying issue among the training staff? The players and trainers seem to be at odds this season, considering all the talent on this team and the odd struggles of various players this year... you cant help but question what the staff is putting into guys heads. Although the pitching has been one of the least flawed aspects of this team, I still question whats going on behind the scenes. Manoah wears his heart on his sleeve, which means the highs are gonna be high! and lows gonna be low... Heading into the season theres no question that a lot was expected of Manoah and this team overall, I think Manoah put a ton of pressure on himself to out do himself this season, similarly to Vlad. I think Manoahs struggles are mainly in his own head right now, maybe combined with some small mechanical issue and the results have been disastrous for him. Theirs no doubt that his ego has been badly bruised this season between his major and minor league performances this year, hes taken a few true beat downs.... with so much pressure to be successful, I can see how such terrible performances have messed with his game confidence. The question now is, is Manoah strong willed enough to overcome it all? does the organization and his fellow teammates still have confidence and trust in him to be there #1 guy moving forward? some big, big questions Manoah and the team is gonna need to figure out this off-season.

[@TreatzTMA]

Definitely not a good move but seeing him work with kids? Maybe there’s hope for his character

[@lancegallant3647]

I use to live in Toronto all the partying and late night cheese burgers 🍔 caught up to him!!!!!

[@croggdog]

He needs to lose 30 pounds. In 2022 he had one of the slowest tempos amongst starters. Pitch clock gassed him.

[@diamonddog13]

The pitch clock did him in. Until he trims down and gets in shape he won't have the stamina for the new reality.

[@NGRV98]

Sounds like he’s struggling with depression. I don’t think it’s the team he’s giving up on.

[@trickolas78]

He quit on himself

[@rjcolombe]

To be fair, kind of a premature assumption, no? Ever think perhaps there's some kind of mental, instead of physical, going on here? Considering nobody has heard what he has to say on the matter, I think it's all kind of presumptuous until we do.