Marvin Harrison Jr. vs. Malik Nabers: Here’s Who Is Better.

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AlexRollinsNFL

AlexRollinsNFL

2 ай бұрын

Marvin Harrison Jr. and Malik Nabers are in a battle for WR1 in the 2024 NFL draft, and today we will determine who between them is better. Harrison Jr. hails from The Ohio State University and is the easy choice; he is tall, fast, strong, and has put up prolific stats, however, LSU’s Malik Nabers has everything it takes to dethrone him come draft day. Nabers has rare movement ability, an endless highlight reel of long explosive catches, and in my opinion more high-end potential, despite having a lower floor. Who is going to be WR1 come draft day? This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 to analyze the Ohio State Buckeyes Wide Receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. and LSU’s Wide Receiver Malik Nabers as they prepare for the 2024 NFL draft.
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@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 2 ай бұрын
Give me your elevator pitch on whether you think Nabers or Harrison Jr. is the WR1.
@rawswisher43
@rawswisher43 2 ай бұрын
One played with a top 3 NFL pick his whole career. The other played with a guy that will be in the UFL or CFL in a few years and stroud for a single year which isn’t much.
@PsychixNFL
@PsychixNFL 2 ай бұрын
If Marv can be a true X and play the "DeAndre Hopkins role", why gamble on a receiver with a marginally higher ceiling and so much more to prove?
@andrewrichter2231
@andrewrichter2231 2 ай бұрын
I think that MHJ is the better prospect, but isn't it disrespectful to not but Odunze in the conversation considering many believe that he is better than Nabers? I've seen most people say that MHJ is 1, and Nabers is 2, bur thinking that Odunze is better than Nabers is more common than thinking that Nabers is better than MHJ.
@PsychixNFL
@PsychixNFL 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewrichter2231 Many analysts that prioritize physical traits have Nabers over Marv, leaving Odunze third. Analysts that prioritize refinement have Marv over Odunze. He's not looked at in that light because neither camp sees him as potentially WR1.
@jok3r_tr1ckster96
@jok3r_tr1ckster96 2 ай бұрын
I lean Harrison because I'm a fan of OSU. However, I'm not sure you could go wrong with either.
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 ай бұрын
*_If you think about it, Marvin Harrison Jr. vs Malik Nabers represents a battle of two great NFL wide receiver factories between Ohio State and LSU._*
@JR-eg8ir
@JR-eg8ir 2 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Whoever turns out better will be WR U for now
@zackhurwitz9441
@zackhurwitz9441 2 ай бұрын
​@@JR-eg8irLSU has Brian Thomas Jr. in this class as well. It's close but I think the edge has to go to LSU rn, cause of Chase and Jefferson. The OSU guys are studs, but I'm not taking them over those guys from the boot.
@colton88
@colton88 2 ай бұрын
@@zackhurwitz9441facts
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
@@zackhurwitz9441As a Buckeye fan I can’t argue that. Jettas and Chase def at the top but we coming this season baby Arod wit Garrett gonna show what Garrett really capable of !! 🔥🔥 Hopefully Harrison hits the ground running, Olave leveled up last season hopefully he does it again and maybe Garrett can finally get some good-great qb play and show what he can really do looking forward to watching all these boys from both WRU’s tear the league up 🔥🔥
@M1sterSuck
@M1sterSuck 2 ай бұрын
​@@zackhurwitz9441 Buckeyes could've had Emeka Egbuka in this draft class but he decided to stay for another year, potential 1st-2nd round talent
@TopSoulMan
@TopSoulMan 2 ай бұрын
Pointing out how MHJ uses his hands similar to a pass rusher was excellently done!
@DetroitTyler
@DetroitTyler 2 ай бұрын
To me he is like the WR equivalent of Patrick Surtain II. Both really good athletes, good size and extremely technically sound. Very much a ultra low floor can't miss type of prospect.
@wildcat4837
@wildcat4837 2 ай бұрын
They both want Herbert as their QB 1,000+yds 10TD season! Rookie of the year for sure!
@juelzd7172
@juelzd7172 2 ай бұрын
MHJ won’t be there when the chargers are on the clock. Nabers will be there.
@deecee2174
@deecee2174 2 ай бұрын
MHJ said he'd like to play on the Cardinals
@corvenzo221
@corvenzo221 2 ай бұрын
@@deecee2174 He would be stupid to say otherwise. #4 vs #5 is an extra $3M in your rookie contract
@Nikillem
@Nikillem 2 ай бұрын
Too bad all signs point to Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman teaming up to run tf outta the ball
@huntertaylor3409
@huntertaylor3409 2 ай бұрын
@@Nikillemyou think them getting rid of all of their receivers points to them getting o-line or something? Lmao
@Dee--Jay
@Dee--Jay 2 ай бұрын
I think if Nabers had a better release from the line, he would be the overall better receiver.. Harrison has really really really good footwork and release technique. Prob trained well from his father.
@beauknows93
@beauknows93 2 ай бұрын
nfl will work w him on that
@gemicah9264
@gemicah9264 2 ай бұрын
Nabers played top defenses. End of discussion.
@Dee--Jay
@Dee--Jay 2 ай бұрын
@@gemicah9264 he sure did!
@lebronjames7593
@lebronjames7593 2 ай бұрын
@@gemicah9264big ten defenses are better
@RemingtonScarborough
@RemingtonScarborough 2 ай бұрын
@@gemicah9264I know you did not just say the SEC has better defenses than the Big 10 😂
@jakesnake2354
@jakesnake2354 2 ай бұрын
My goodness your vid’s take a diff level round this time. Can’t wait for this season. Great vid
@craigburgess7105
@craigburgess7105 2 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis - a good insight in to what issues they will face in the NFL and how important what sort of offence you get drafted to.
@keshavsharma5406
@keshavsharma5406 Ай бұрын
8:15 "create more separation than Madame Webb and 'good'" 🤣🤣🤣
@brandonmartin9117
@brandonmartin9117 Ай бұрын
Draft class remind me of 2014 Odell, Evan’s, davante, cooks
@victorsalgado6742
@victorsalgado6742 Ай бұрын
as a cardinal fan im drooling at the fact we are gonna have one of these 2 for the next decade 🤤
@davyanonymous9674
@davyanonymous9674 13 күн бұрын
Better stop drooling.
@garybyoosey3163
@garybyoosey3163 2 ай бұрын
If you think about what Alex said in this video and watch the plays, there is a reason Nabers has so many more YAC yds. Alex said that: 1) LSU ran a basic offense where Nabers mostly did stop and go routes. 2) Opposing defenses stopped pressing Nabers. This is why he was wide open on those stop routes and had so much room to run after the catch. You can get open on stop routes all day when the defender is 8-12 yds from you at the snap. Marv is pressed on every play in this video, and he doesn't run a single stop route, and there are a few plays here where he is wide open with room to run and the QB doesn't find him or misses his throw. There are 2 plays in this video that Nabers is pressed and he does stop routes in both with no YAC.
@Yes-ml4bw
@Yes-ml4bw 26 күн бұрын
I guess Nabers being significantly faster, shifter, and making defenders miss had zero to do with it , huh?
@garybyoosey3163
@garybyoosey3163 26 күн бұрын
@@Yes-ml4bw you are putting words in my mouth. Watch the tape and have some idea about defensive coverages before making offtopic, passive aggressive insults.
@Yes-ml4bw
@Yes-ml4bw 26 күн бұрын
@@garybyoosey3163 or maybe you can just read your post and realize how clueless you sound...
@garybyoosey3163
@garybyoosey3163 26 күн бұрын
@@Yes-ml4bw At least you stopped being passive aggressive.
@Yes-ml4bw
@Yes-ml4bw 26 күн бұрын
@@garybyoosey3163 you must have read your comment and decided your best chance at saving face was to deflect. What's funny in your own words, you try to put down Nabers but admit that Harrison can't get separation... Lol. Like I said, you are clueless...
@ArkhamKnight92
@ArkhamKnight92 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos. As always, very well done!
@macdaddy111
@macdaddy111 2 ай бұрын
Both are absolute studs!! MHJ is like a faster DHop, and Nabers is basically Chase 2.0. Can't go wrong with either.
@827dusty
@827dusty 2 ай бұрын
Rome Odunze is better than all of them according to Randy Moss.
@charlieherrera7870
@charlieherrera7870 22 күн бұрын
@@827dusty💀
@Dawg-Bone
@Dawg-Bone 2 ай бұрын
Here’s how I view it: 1a. Nabers 1b. Harrison 1c. Odunze All three of these guys are going to be phenomenal in the league.
@petesiegel9225
@petesiegel9225 2 ай бұрын
@Dawg-Bone Very reasonable grades. QB and WR 2024 class are great studies for quality and differences in styles.
@e2rqey
@e2rqey 2 ай бұрын
Flip Nabers And Harrison. You can't win with routes consistently with brute force at the NFL level. Especially if the team he gets drafted to tries to line him up at an outside receiver position instead of in the slot. Not to mention the slot receiver generally takes more physical punishment as well. Marvin is far more versatile and has a toolkit which translates better the the NFL and can be applied to farmore situations. Its as much a mental game vs NFL DBs as it is a physical one. He's deceptively athletic, he runs his routes so smooth and varies his speed on routes instead of going 100% all out on every play it can seem like he's less athletic. The thing is that its the complete opposite, his technique and movement is so refined that he's able to achieve separation and make DBs massively overcomit with minimal effort. he's winning his routes comprehensively with a fraction of the energy that Nabers does. he uses finess, speed, power, and misdirection. Not only do these translate better to the NFL, they are tools which last for a much longer time. If you have to rely on just being physically better than the defender on every play, once you loose that you have nothing else. Players like Larry Fitzgerald, D-Hop, and Marvin Harrison Sr. were/are able to have such long careers in the NFL because most of what makes them productive in the NFL doesn't diminish over time. If anything they actually get more powerful as they get more experience. If all you have is the ability to have that insane burst and extra step on defenders, you may be good for a few seasons but you're not going to be a top WR for 10+ years. Watch Marvins tape and you can see how often he's able to just completely cook DBs not through using raw speed, but just by making them mentally and physically overcommit to the wrong route. hes so deep in their head that hes not just winning one rep at a time. hes made them stop trusting their own instincts. past a certain point they either commit 100% or hesitate and play off him, but no matter what they decide to do he will make them wrong. In the 4th quarter of a SuperBowl when everyone's exhausted. Marvin is going to still be able to beat DBs, and he's going to have far more energy left in the tank than someone like Nabers whos been going full-afterburners on every play for the entire game. Its not like Nabers can just get coached to have the kind of technique and WR IQ that Marvin has either. He can absolutely improve, don't get me wrong. And he almost certainly will once he gets in the NFL. But Marvin has developed those skills over an entire lifetime of being taught by his NFL hall of fame WR father. They are second nature to him. Its the precision of the execution, all the tiny details, making the cut at the exact right millisecond, chopping the arm at just the right spot on the wrist. Its all those little things being done perfectly that's the difference between it working and it not working. its also why he can make it work without unnecessary exertion. All that extra effort is only needed to make up for lack of technique/sloppy execution. All that being said, Nabers would normally be the best WR in his draft year. But Marvin is actually a generational talent. That term gets thrown around way to much these days. But it absolutely applies to him. Very very few WRs can win routes so hard that they can basically create an uncontested catch with such little effort/exertion. If he's able to continue doing that at the NFL level its going to be amazing to watch.
@flagshipnailstudio6970
@flagshipnailstudio6970 2 ай бұрын
Bro, MHJ is the best wr in this draft class easily
@Raidori17
@Raidori17 2 ай бұрын
Blantant SEC bias lol
@kwillomusic
@kwillomusic 2 ай бұрын
@@e2rqeyyou’re dead on bro!! I agree with everything you said. Your words are perfect. MHJ is just in his own class and I would absolutely take him over any receiver in the draft.
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 ай бұрын
Alex you just made me hungry with the breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert analogies! _(Speaking of which, I wonder what the snack would be…🤔)
@bigkome
@bigkome 2 ай бұрын
YAC!
@Ynkno
@Ynkno 2 ай бұрын
Pause
@joeymerlan
@joeymerlan 2 ай бұрын
I see U Comment everywhere
@marcoslabradaify
@marcoslabradaify 2 ай бұрын
Great video, agreed with what you said at the end about both receivers
@marcodiaz4635
@marcodiaz4635 2 ай бұрын
The Madame Web joke lol great video
@topfloorbabe
@topfloorbabe 2 ай бұрын
the quality of these videos has gotten so much better recently, appreciate the consistency too
@lenzzzzzzz
@lenzzzzzzz 2 ай бұрын
7:10 this is exactly what I’m talking about with Jayden Daniel’s he always throws the hitch late. Look how long Malik is waiting for that ball.
@peterkim4687
@peterkim4687 2 ай бұрын
Hey Alex! I only recently started watching your videos, but they are stellar. I love football more because of your channel. Not sure there is higher praise than that. Thank you for all you do!!
@MatttheMii
@MatttheMii 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 💯 I'm going to be a freshman next year and I need to learn alot
@Ynkno
@Ynkno 2 ай бұрын
Wr? College?
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt Ай бұрын
@@YnknoJesus is Lord
@thomaspearsoniii5806
@thomaspearsoniii5806 Ай бұрын
Great video well done
@midaszay213
@midaszay213 2 ай бұрын
Chargers traded Keenan so I have to do research on these college receivers I’m sad
@teryeborsonin5095
@teryeborsonin5095 2 ай бұрын
MHJr. I’d like a bigger Keenan/Davante, but we’re definitely not getting him, i hope we get nabers
@jaretelrage8687
@jaretelrage8687 2 ай бұрын
Same reason I'm here
@akasilkyslim
@akasilkyslim Ай бұрын
Chargers is where I want Odunze to go I wanna see him play with Herbert
@plantbasedcarnivore8210
@plantbasedcarnivore8210 23 күн бұрын
And chargers got none of the 3, joke of a franchise.
@KingzGambitt
@KingzGambitt 2 ай бұрын
It really depends on what your asking them to do. Marvin looks like he projects to be on the ball (X). While Malik looks like he’ll thrive at the Z and could get favorable matchups in the slot. They’re too different styles of receiver, all depends on what your team needs
@Zaqped
@Zaqped Ай бұрын
Just got both of them in a draft can’t wait to see how it turns out
@bigtrey914
@bigtrey914 Ай бұрын
Great breakdown
@letanefonoti3
@letanefonoti3 2 ай бұрын
MHJ is that dude. Nabers is so extremely explosive. Rome Odunze just has that dog in him... He's who I'd want on my team.
@erickcalderon19
@erickcalderon19 2 ай бұрын
Ima take Nabers, Harrison doesn't break tackles and isn't a YAC monster
@GJTrae
@GJTrae 2 ай бұрын
😂
@MER_THE
@MER_THE 2 ай бұрын
Huh Harrison is always doubled i watch my Ohio state Buckeyes faithfully he is clear 1 pick because he is 100% nfl ready and he averaged 140 yards plus every game past 2 seasons that why you hear ESPN and NFL analyst say Marvin is the best player in the draft. His route running is elite when you got a DB press and safety in the back and still ate on every game.
@CaesFinest
@CaesFinest 2 ай бұрын
​@@MER_THEis that why he had 4 games with 30 receiving yards or less? Elite my ass.
@web1108
@web1108 2 ай бұрын
QB has to take some of the blame for that!@@CaesFinest
@LjLong-wx1pk
@LjLong-wx1pk Ай бұрын
@@CaesFinestbro jayden Daniel’s was throwing him the ball 😂
@DommyB20
@DommyB20 25 күн бұрын
Awesome Vid
@tanimal2042
@tanimal2042 2 ай бұрын
Just for clarification, which WR did you want to see go to AZ? With Nabers, you said you'd like to see a team use him similarly to AJ Brown in Tennessee (over the middle), but said Kyler doesnt target the middle. I love Nabers, but a bigger target on the outside like MHJ feels like a perfect fit for Kyler's skillset.
@davidgough8599
@davidgough8599 2 ай бұрын
Did you watch this season? He worked fantastic over the middle using the TE and wide out
@tanimal2042
@tanimal2042 2 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I love what I saw from Kyler under Petzing. I think MHJ is what that offense is missing more so than Nabers though.@@davidgough8599
@ki2726
@ki2726 2 ай бұрын
Kyler loved targeting Trey McBride so he does like targeting the middle if he has a reviver he trusts
@K1forMVP
@K1forMVP 2 ай бұрын
Alex is wrong on Murray. Kyler targeted the middle the 2nd most of ANY QB in the NFL Last year, only reason he didn’t with Kliff is his offense didn’t use the middle a lot. McBride did all his damage with 81recs/881YDs across the middle, Murray can definitely see the middle of the field.
@NinoVerse22
@NinoVerse22 2 ай бұрын
Exactly Kyler does better with a big body receiver to work the outside it's proven
@broq9194
@broq9194 Ай бұрын
Nabors is not NEARLY as rough and unpolished as this guy is saying. That's very exaggerated, just creating a narrative. But his final assessment of Nabors having higher potential is spot on, and high lighting Nabors' movement ability is also correct. What he neglected to high light is Nabors' speed out of his break, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL, and is the single most important skill/quality a receiver in the NFL can have, because it's the greatest skill that creates separation, gets you open, and creates YAC all at the same time, and also makes your QB's job MUCH easier as he gets to throw to a receiver who is WIDE AZZ OPEN as opposed to throwing contested balls in tight windows. Nabors is not nearly as "risky" and "unpolished" as this guy is saying, and saying Nabors "can't" play the X position is just nonsense.
@manman2991
@manman2991 12 сағат бұрын
THANK YOU
@kevinc2364
@kevinc2364 Ай бұрын
Great video its so funny I made a list of NFL comps for some of the top draft prospects and for Nabers I literally had skinny AJ Brown. Glad I was on to something there! For the record I had Harrison as bigger CeeDee Lamb.
@justinb9612
@justinb9612 Ай бұрын
I personally don’t see the explosiveness that I see from CeeDee
@NyquillaGorillaKilla
@NyquillaGorillaKilla 2 ай бұрын
I’m just happy seeing someone at least bring the conversation up that maybe marv isn’t as untouchable at wr1 as most try to say. Thanks.
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
No he is that untouchable. Ppl are enamored with the YAC and Speed Nabers has ands that’s good but Marc has speed and elite technique that trumps all that. Nabers is an elite prospect too WR prospect Marv is a level above that. He’s literally a bullet proof pick for whoever picks him he we will come in and already be ahead of what all the nfl coaches are telling him because he’s been doing those exact things his whole life and that’s the difference between and raw elite athletic wr in Nabers and MHJ
@NyquillaGorillaKilla
@NyquillaGorillaKilla 2 ай бұрын
@@smercxz he might be in todays perception, but in a few years I think we’ll see that the gap was a lot closer than people think. What Malik can do after the catch more than makes up any difference imo. The missed tackles speaks for itself. MHJ- 6 Malik- 36 I think those are the numbers but I maybe off a few.
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
@@NyquillaGorillaKilla Possibly could. But in terms of prospects if I’m a gm and Marv and Nabers are on the board I’m taking Marv because ik barring injury it’s a guaranteed hit. With that said I love all these guys man Nabers, Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr. And plenty more I think all have the ability to make ppl look back in the future and talk about how deep this wr class really.
@amcasanave
@amcasanave Ай бұрын
@@smercxz there are no "bullet proof" picks. Harrison hurt his teammates by not doing Pro Day. Is he a selfish a-hole? Maybe.
@smercxz
@smercxz Ай бұрын
@@amcasanave Yes he’s bullet proof. And no he didn’t hurt his teammates😂😂😂 He did a prod for CJ who tf was coming out this year from Ohio St. you don’t even know what your talking about you heard that before about someone else and thought it applied here lol cmon bro
@JuniorG59_
@JuniorG59_ 2 ай бұрын
I hope one of these guys Gets drafted by the Chargers ⚡
@dereksorensen8019
@dereksorensen8019 Ай бұрын
As long as we don't trade down - Nabers is likely a lock at 5
@towerdefensestuff6107
@towerdefensestuff6107 23 күн бұрын
@@dereksorensen8019 I have some bad news
@plantbasedcarnivore8210
@plantbasedcarnivore8210 23 күн бұрын
@@dereksorensen8019he was there for the pick but yall said no 😂😂😂
@moonillusions832
@moonillusions832 2 ай бұрын
Phenomenal editing
@theactualshadow
@theactualshadow 2 ай бұрын
the editing on this alex 😮😮😮
@thisisgunnabeachannel362
@thisisgunnabeachannel362 23 күн бұрын
I remember watching this when it first dropped hoping the nyg would get one of them and then they actually fucking did… 🤯
@terry7907
@terry7907 2 ай бұрын
Great contrast.
@alienOG-zh2xs
@alienOG-zh2xs 2 ай бұрын
Can you do a video comparing Nabers to Odunze?
@Alex-ye1br
@Alex-ye1br 2 ай бұрын
As a Chargers fan w/ the 5th pick, I'd be shocked if MHJ drops to us but, if he does, we take him. I'd rather try to trade down for more picks than drafting Nabers at 5.
@fantasypolice
@fantasypolice Ай бұрын
Turned it off at "Malik is raw". Sorry brother but if you're going to fake it until you make it, at least avoid the obvious pitfalls. MALIK NABERS is one of the more refined receivers in this class (alongside Odunze and Harrison).
@danielmeuler2877
@danielmeuler2877 2 ай бұрын
The 2024 WR Class is Insanely talented. I believe it will go down as one of the best, if not the best group of WR's.
@rawswisher43
@rawswisher43 2 ай бұрын
Will you do a Jayden or Drake video?
@dchen2140
@dchen2140 2 ай бұрын
We can just stop at the releases honestly. Knowing how to separate is the most important trait for me in scouting WRs. Seen too many "explosive" "burners" "physical" WRs get to the NFL and just become average athletes.
@bc_qbeval
@bc_qbeval Ай бұрын
Nabers separated just fine against Terrion Arnold, Kool-Aid McKinstry, and Caleb Downs.
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje 19 күн бұрын
@@bc_qbevalno he didn’t. If you watch tape where he’s actually matched up on press he striggled. Most of his plays that game where against the safety and linebacker.
@bc_qbeval
@bc_qbeval 18 күн бұрын
@@wendyuwaje yes he did. It's YOU who needs to go back and watch the tape. You're wrong.
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje 18 күн бұрын
@@bc_qbevalshow me the dominant tape in PRESS not the slot then I’ll believe you. Title if the video and time. If I’m wrong I’ll eat it.
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
No cause that’s a learned trait.
@markd7762
@markd7762 27 күн бұрын
Scary part with MHJ is he could easily still add 5-10 lbs of muscle allowing him to be more physical at the point of attack. He's a matchup nightmare. If the Cards pass on him I'll be furious
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
No bro he can’t. It’s doesn’t work like that. Ya maybe 5-10 over the 5-8 years. He needs speed fat or muscle makes you slower. Also no one is gaining 5-10 points of lean mass after already training for a decade.
@markd7762
@markd7762 13 күн бұрын
@@AB-nv7bz With all due respect, men don't hit their physical prime until around 26. So yes, it may take him a few years to get there but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility for him to add more muscle to his frame. Also keep in mind NFL strength and conditioning programs are among the best in the world.
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 13 күн бұрын
@@markd7762 you’re not understanding how much 5-10lbs of lean mass actually is for someone who has trained as long as he has. Building muscle isn’t some magic. Nfl programs are typically geared toward injury prevention and recover, not adding strength and mass. 5-10 more pounds means a reduction in speed and quickness. It’s kind of unheard of for a top player at a skill position to gain more weight in their career. If anything they lose weight to keep speed. I’m not saying he can’t do it, but it will make him a worse football player.
@KenjiMapes
@KenjiMapes 16 күн бұрын
Nice video & good analysis. Thanks for your work on this Alex. Both have an onus of pedigree hanging over them. Now I’m a diehard NY Giants fan & thrilled that Malik Nabers is wearing Giants blue. I was actually torn between Nabers & Rome Odunze where my preference changed a few times. It’s a basically just that - preference as you can’t basically lose in choosing any of the three. Back to onus. Marvin Harrison Jr was literally made to be a professional football player & wide receiver. He has the onus, specter & burden of having to live up to his pedigree & will forever be compared to his legendary father. Will it be a burden or blessing? If Wan’Dale & Hyatt can take next level leaps, then we should have one of the best WR groups in the league. Nabers has to live up to the LSU receiver hype train. Odell. Ja’Marr Chase. Etc It’s certainly no where near Harrison Jr’s pressure though. I’m sure they’ll be fine. The Giants needed a taller receiver but even though Nabers isn’t one of the taller receivers at 6’ we had to pick him because a #1 WR was our biggest need. He’s freaking explosive. When you watch his tape you can just see he plays at another speed & has that extra gear. Our receiving corps has a core of Nabers, Darius Slayton, Wan’Dale Robinson & Jalin Hyatt. That is a talented & impressive group. They’re all different & present as a balanced & deep group who have diverse skill sets. This is a group that could be very dangerous & productive. Nabers was one of the best prospects in the draft. Slayton is Mr Steady. Wan’Dale took a big leap after a rookie year in which he flashed but got hirt for the year around midway through. Jalin Hyatt showed off his world class speed & proved he isn’t a one-trick pony & is more polished than just a speed demon. But what a class of receivers. The 2024 receiver class will certainly go down in history. Two little asides. Of course the freaking Chiefs had to draft 40 year combine record smasher Xavier 4:21 Worthy😨🫤 FSU stud receiver Keon Colemen’s first presser went viral due to his charming personality & comedic charisma. The 6’4” 216lb Keon Coleman fell to the first pick in Round 2 due to his “slow” 4:61 combine 40 time despite strong production & excellent tape. This kid is precocious, super likable & has his head screwed on correctly. I think he’s going to be a good one. He could have a DK Metcalf type of trajectory. I’m pulling for the kid🙂👍 Can’t wait for the season now!😁
@daniekogivens5042
@daniekogivens5042 2 ай бұрын
That's crazy, when I really started looking at Nabers, I had the same AJB comparison.. with him being smaller it's like you take the bully ball out of AJ but because he's smaller he's noticably more explosive.
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
That wouldn’t be AJ then with the bully ball lol. I see a stronger OBJ in his game that RAC ability he has is ELITE but he’s more physical then OBJ while being just as explosive
@daniekogivens5042
@daniekogivens5042 2 ай бұрын
@@smercxz Yeah that's a pretty good comp. Odell was a little more nuanced of a route runner coming out and Nabers isn't as special at the catch point.. but really who is lol I would say Nabers has another gear that Odell never had, which sounds ridiculous, but he is so damn explosive.
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
@@daniekogivens5042 ooo how about this one bro I saw someone comp him to AB and I can see that one too if he gets better at the point of attack like you said. He def does have a similar build to AB I’d say
@majestyirving1372
@majestyirving1372 2 ай бұрын
@@smercxzhe gives me a faster deebo vibe looked antsy on the outside multiple times in press
@xStrypes
@xStrypes 2 ай бұрын
Definitely the best break down I’ve seen
@markcobeen941
@markcobeen941 Ай бұрын
PS, I enjoy your videos!
@ReconcilemE
@ReconcilemE 2 ай бұрын
Things I noticed Harrison: takes a back step on some of his releases and looks likes he takes plays off. But uses leverage wisely Neighbors: Has potential with his size but at the same time elite speed and reminds me of JJ but doesn't come back to routes
@K1forMVP
@K1forMVP 2 ай бұрын
Uhh Murray targeted the middle of the field the 2nd most of ANY QB IN THE NFL last year via PFF, the only reason he didn’t with Kliff is because the middle of the field isn’t a big part of his NFL. Maybe check the facts before parroting weak talking points next time. Murray doesn’t have a problem seeing the middle of the field.
@pristinedecision1877
@pristinedecision1877 2 ай бұрын
I’m new to the ins and outs of football especially in contrast to how much I know about basketball but Marvin Harrison using D-Line techniques to beat press coverage at the LOS is so cool. It probably is something other receivers do as well but I have never paid attention to how these elite receivers win beyond using their measurable and athleticism.
@coryt93
@coryt93 17 күн бұрын
They’re both going to be incredible in their own right. Top 10 WRs in the NFL, maybe top 5.
@fyuriusryage5353
@fyuriusryage5353 2 ай бұрын
Isn't the X position essentially what another LSU product (#JJETTAS2) plays? I see a ton of similarity here.
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje Ай бұрын
There’s no similarity in their games at all outside the school they went toZ
@codyzempel5506
@codyzempel5506 2 ай бұрын
Harrison all day...he's a solid #1 who can get those clutch catches, run every route to perfection and just be consistent...Nabors is more of a gimmick type to me, certain down and play type WR..Harrison better technique and just solid WR. Nabors you can get creative but I don't see him taking over a game week in week out whereas Nabors will have peak moments but just not #1
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje Ай бұрын
Finally someone sees it
@Marcueshea
@Marcueshea 19 күн бұрын
Haha I’m torn, I’m a student at OSU but a giants fan from NY. Either way I think both of these guys will DOMINATE and will both be top WRs at some point
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
No one is arguing mhj is better day 1. Route running and release are coachable traits. Taking a slant 40 yards weaving though defenders isn’t.
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje 7 күн бұрын
@@AB-nv7bzhow many receivers you know consistently do that. Jamarr, Tyreek sure but you don’t see that nearly as much as the receivers who do what Marv does well. At the end of the day that’s what a prospect is a projection.
@classicview
@classicview 2 ай бұрын
Alex's football acumen is second to none
@markcobeen941
@markcobeen941 Ай бұрын
LoL...I doubt hes gonna sleep with you. But good luck
@sebentertainment286
@sebentertainment286 2 ай бұрын
My take is Nabers will be the better receiver in the nfl with an impact like Chase. Let’s see how this take ages
@kellerlaseure7413
@kellerlaseure7413 2 ай бұрын
@AlexRollinsNFL where do you get this film from?
@K1forMVP
@K1forMVP 2 ай бұрын
He obviously doesn’t watch film much because if he watched any of Murray’s game last year he would know Murray targets the middle a ton. KM targeted the middle the 2nd most of any QB in the NFL Last year via PFF. McBride had 81 receptions/881 YDs all of his damage done over the middle. Kingsburys offense didn’t use the middle much so Kyler didn’t use the middle much, this new west coast offense does and Murray was one of the most efficient QBs in the NFL targeting the middle last year between 10-20YDs in the intermediate area between the numbers.
@benjaminfinzen6781
@benjaminfinzen6781 Ай бұрын
​@@K1forMVPYou jerk off to Kyler or something. Jesus Christ, dude.
@AtlasAdvice254
@AtlasAdvice254 Ай бұрын
Marv is skill paired with size, has arguably the best hands and route running ability in the class (only person in the discussion on that is Ladd) and he’s already filled out his frame. Malik is an incredible talent but Marv is the definition of the term generational
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
Lol. Hype train anyone. 6’3” 200lbs with 4.5 speed isn’t generational. Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss were generational.
@OBbroncos43
@OBbroncos43 2 ай бұрын
It’s a 1a and 1b. Marvin’s last name definitely is a big reason he’s so hyped but he’s still an elite prospect
@mkingadiffernce
@mkingadiffernce 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@JaCass30
@JaCass30 2 ай бұрын
The thought of nabers speed and Herbert’s arm 🤤
@steveparish4209
@steveparish4209 2 ай бұрын
As a Chargers fan who just watch Keenan Allen traded away to clear cap space, which was the right move btw, I love the fact they're sitting in the #5 spot and will likely get a crack at one of these two receivers. They went with Quentin Johnston last year over Zay Flowers, who was the safer pick, hoping Johnston's rawness could be coached up to his projected high ceiling. It hasn't happened yet so to me, if they get the choice, Harrison is the better pick. But, if he's gone and Nabers is there, you take him, for sure.
@brodyrush7832
@brodyrush7832 Ай бұрын
can we get an odunze breakdown?
@Rx_Lee
@Rx_Lee Ай бұрын
If the Titans take him watch out OMG D Hop, and Ridley on the outside with Nabers in the slot. Now that would be some firepower.
@jeffbrown1829
@jeffbrown1829 2 ай бұрын
i was taking mhj with the first pick if i were the bears
@chawkfan94
@chawkfan94 2 ай бұрын
MJH is 1, no brainer. Then its a toss up between Rome and Nabers. Which is a tough comparison because they are very different types of receivers
@blakeramsey3373
@blakeramsey3373 2 ай бұрын
It’s really not. The gap between Marv and nabers is smaller than Rome and nabers
@tybeall7716
@tybeall7716 2 ай бұрын
Nope, it’s definitely a toss up Between MJH and Nabors. Rome is in a category behind them too.
@gemicah9264
@gemicah9264 2 ай бұрын
Nabers played better defenses and had another top recto share the rock with . You put nabers at Ohio state he’d do even more than mhj
@calebhoffman6368
@calebhoffman6368 2 ай бұрын
@@gemicah9264 lol
@vinzetti22
@vinzetti22 2 ай бұрын
​@gemicah9264 yea but he didn't do all that out of the x. He crushed it in the slot
@dmoneymusik365
@dmoneymusik365 2 ай бұрын
what is the beat at 3:30? so nice
@1guard4
@1guard4 2 ай бұрын
Harrison had McCord throwing to him that in itself makes him the best receiver in the draft.
@gregshoopman6369
@gregshoopman6369 2 ай бұрын
every year theres always hip around some dude late in the scouting process because everyone gets bored. Marv is the best. Marv can do everything Nabers does and he does more things better.
@agent_JorDi
@agent_JorDi 2 ай бұрын
Ad Mitchell vs Troy Franklin would be nice for this series
@MarchOnRome
@MarchOnRome 2 ай бұрын
Adonai is leagues better than Franklin lol. Size, route running, traits, etc..Troy is likely a 2nd round pick that will be only a deep threat. He’s also very small & not a WR1 or WR2
@agent_JorDi
@agent_JorDi 2 ай бұрын
@@MarchOnRome absolutely insane 😂😂😂 ok we’ll see. Troy’s tape don’t even indicate he’s “only a deep threat” but this is what makes draft season fun 😂
@jok3r_tr1ckster96
@jok3r_tr1ckster96 2 ай бұрын
I think both'll be productive in the NFL.
@richardpcrowe
@richardpcrowe 2 ай бұрын
I could just imagine Justin Herbert's deep ball skills with Malik Nabers' blazing speed. OTOH... would it not be fun if a team had both MHJ and Brenden Rice as receivers. Two ball catchers who are the sons of two of the elite wide receivers of all time.
@malikking3
@malikking3 2 ай бұрын
Great video well done. Nabers is twitchy to me and that is good while Harrison Jr. is Technical to me which is also good. Depends on what traits the teams want but all in all can't go wrong with either. Nabers though has that elite level twitch and elite speed that you can't teach so he's the one for me.
@slimeslime7968
@slimeslime7968 2 ай бұрын
As a Ohio state fan both of them are what a reciever should have ability to catch the football speed and strength both have those but last season one had a better qb and one didn’t but all that doesn’t matter we could have opinions but the facts will be shown when they both step on the nfl field 💯
@dajuansimpson7597
@dajuansimpson7597 2 ай бұрын
One share snaps with another elite receiver
@slimeslime7968
@slimeslime7968 2 ай бұрын
@@dajuansimpson7597 I kno cuh
@qownsqud3207
@qownsqud3207 2 ай бұрын
Honestly Nabers reminds me so much of Deebo. I honestly dont love his ball skills tho, hes made some tough catches but i never see him attacking the ball at that high point
@Liamitis123
@Liamitis123 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Deebo too. 💥
@richardo8620
@richardo8620 2 ай бұрын
There is no comparison. Harrison is the best PLAYER in this draft or any other in a long time. In the right system, he will be the game changer.
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
Lol.
@rexfordmorgan7552
@rexfordmorgan7552 2 ай бұрын
Harrison is the type of guy who in a couple years will be thought of as a superstar who racks up redzone tds, he’s too technically talented and motivated on improving technique like a pro to be anything less with that body.
@ricardoj85
@ricardoj85 2 ай бұрын
So... If the class is stacked with WRs . Get your best cornerback..???
@DetroitTyler
@DetroitTyler 2 ай бұрын
Nabers is electric with the ball in his hands, reminds me of Odell that way when he first entered the league, I think Harrison Jr is the better all around WR and is more NFL ready. Nabers needs some polish and I wouldn't be surprised if his ceiling is higher than Marvin Harrison's after a few seasons in the league. If Nabers can work on his releases that'll go a long long way.
@devinjohnson9749
@devinjohnson9749 2 ай бұрын
Nabers put up those numbers while having another #1 elite WR on the field with him
@1guard4
@1guard4 2 ай бұрын
And a elite quarterback throwing him the ball.
@Unknown-ox1yq
@Unknown-ox1yq 2 ай бұрын
Emeke Egbuka might not be on the level of Brian Thomas Jr. but also could have easily been a first round selection had he declared. Nabers also had a Heisman winner throwing him the ball versus what Marvin Harrison Jr had.
@Lil-k47
@Lil-k47 2 ай бұрын
but take into account that LSU is in the SEC, for me personally, this seperates MHJ and Nabers, MHJ is the more 'complete WR' but either option is great from the NFL teams@@Unknown-ox1yq
@cohenbecker3542
@cohenbecker3542 2 ай бұрын
So did marv bro, emeka egbuka was said to be the #2 wr going into the 2023 season and was gonna be a first round pick but then he got hurt
@AB-nv7bz
@AB-nv7bz 14 күн бұрын
@@cohenbecker3542so he didn’t cause the guy got hurt. Lol
@murphyslaw7815
@murphyslaw7815 2 ай бұрын
I'm taking Harrison Jr all day. He's already that good and going to get better.
@chefturbo4117
@chefturbo4117 2 ай бұрын
Its just flavors imo. You want OBJ or Davante Adams? Nabers or Marvin?
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
I like that. Give me MHJ (Adams) all day I want someone who’s gonna win for years off technique once they lose a step
@Lsufan-20
@Lsufan-20 2 ай бұрын
@@smercxzprime obj clears davante adams
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
@@Lsufan-20 you’re drunk my boy 😂 can’t be better then someone who sees the field and is available to play all the time and produces like crazy just doesn’t work that way vs someone who’s injury prone and production does come but it’s in spurts. Like I said give me someone who’s gonna last an entire career and once they lose a step can still win because they don’t rely on athleticism alone to be elite.
@smercxz
@smercxz 2 ай бұрын
@@Lsufan-20 maybe I’m drunk 😂 I re read and saw you put prime OBJ. Maybe he does id agree but it’s definitely debatable.
@garybyoosey3163
@garybyoosey3163 2 ай бұрын
@@Lsufan-20 no way
@phashondon3493
@phashondon3493 23 күн бұрын
Ayyye Yoo.. Getting into Nabers was wild!! But Marvin will the safer pick
@InsufficientFundz84
@InsufficientFundz84 Ай бұрын
Nabers will be the first receiver off the board
@nathanielemmons1924
@nathanielemmons1924 2 ай бұрын
I like both players but I also think odunze is right there with them.my bears better not mess this up.go bears
@mattesyl33
@mattesyl33 Ай бұрын
Fans forget that it's not just who's better now, but who will be better over the next decade plus. They are both elite.
@TheFleeeg
@TheFleeeg 2 ай бұрын
Rome Odunze has the latest and best hands out of the 3
@norrisrico
@norrisrico 15 күн бұрын
Nabers, it's the 5th gear aspect. He can explode suddenly that separates him.
@Silencer21
@Silencer21 Ай бұрын
Nabers for sure
@tfive1060
@tfive1060 2 ай бұрын
I'll be picking one of these guys for my fantasy rookie draft. Everyone says Harrison is the best, but when I watch them it seem like Marv doesn't create much separation. With Nabers it seems like there isn't anyone within 5 yards of him when he catches it. And he torches defenders and is way better after the catch than Marv. Let me know what you guys think. Who should I pick? I need help!
@Hccxddfyujm
@Hccxddfyujm 2 ай бұрын
Your a troll, pick Nabers and live with the consequences
@garybyoosey3163
@garybyoosey3163 2 ай бұрын
Pay attention to how they are defended in this video. It's completely different. In the NFL, Nabers probably won't have the advantage of having no one within 10 yds of him when the ball is snapped.
@tonetonebone
@tonetonebone 2 ай бұрын
Need an Odunze video
@SoCalmJoe
@SoCalmJoe 2 ай бұрын
Something tells me Rome has a new empire.
@rashan2424
@rashan2424 Ай бұрын
This is like the AJ Green, Julio situation in 2011. Except Julio was like 6'5
@garion333
@garion333 2 ай бұрын
I'll take...both!
@joeyhuynh5893
@joeyhuynh5893 2 ай бұрын
this need for a number receiver started when stefon diggs went to buffalo and proved he was a number 1 and josh allen taking that leap. it was those two that changed the landscape of the league and every gm and coach saw it
@MrEmmanuelmack
@MrEmmanuelmack 2 ай бұрын
Also Tua getting hill hurts getting AJ brown
@joeyhuynh5893
@joeyhuynh5893 Ай бұрын
@@MrEmmanuelmack I agree but it was josh and Stefon that started this trend in the nfl and the eagles and dolphins followed suit. They merely confirmed like that a QB needs a number one weapon. Like right after josh and Stefon it was jamar and Joe
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure based on the hype we all know who's better Receiver
@DoubleMove
@DoubleMove 2 ай бұрын
there isn’t enough hype going to Nabers. The gap between Nabers/Harrison isn’t as big as you think. Nabers has ALL the tools to be the best WR in football in a few years (my opinion)
@kingcold5252
@kingcold5252 2 ай бұрын
​@@DoubleMoveI've heard people say Harrison is in a league of his own
@TheVvolfgang
@TheVvolfgang 2 ай бұрын
​@DoubleMove He definitely has all the tools, but based off the routes I saw in this video he still has a ton of refinement he needs to do.
@LvStarcrossed
@LvStarcrossed 2 ай бұрын
Nabers has more catches, yrds, and tds than harrison.@@kingcold5252
@DoubleMove
@DoubleMove 2 ай бұрын
@@TheVvolfgang You can teach/coach up a players route running. You can’t teach the explosiveness that Nabers has
@Swerve-Online
@Swerve-Online 2 ай бұрын
Got to go with Nabors. After a year in the NFL to refine his technique, he will be way better.
@wendyuwaje
@wendyuwaje 2 ай бұрын
You can’t refine technique at an elite level in the nfl.
@88Bigs88
@88Bigs88 2 ай бұрын
MHJ reminds me of Michael Thomas of the Saints or KeyshawnJohnson with the bucs. Smooth route running and consistency. MHJ faced a lot of questionable corners at OSU. I like Nabers more after watching both of them play. Harrison does not bring that OMG plays. He has a bunch of nice play. A lot of average corners in college believe that they can beat him in press coverage because they do not fear MHJ speed. I doubt athleticism in the NFL. I could be wrong.
@TreyBland-rr6xc
@TreyBland-rr6xc 2 ай бұрын
Brian Thomas will be the best one
@jmg999
@jmg999 2 ай бұрын
I'm curious to see how things play out for Harrison. I think that he's making a mistake going through the process w/out expert guidance. There's a reason that the same agents and managers are hired over and over again, and it's for their experience. I think that he made some poor decisions during the combine that could come back to hurt him down the road.
@Ynkno
@Ynkno 2 ай бұрын
His papa
@MrEmmanuelmack
@MrEmmanuelmack 2 ай бұрын
His dad is a HOF receiver
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