Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce Review.

[@GROUNDHOGRACING]

Great video! I have a 2.0 Veloce Q4 as well and I was also a bit deluded by the acceleration after about 80km/h (50ish miles?).. with the Eibach suspension and a remap to over 315hp and 470nm of torque it feels much quicker and therefore like a true Veloce should be:)

[@MeijaJanis]

i am considering 2.0 Veloce Q4. Currently drive Octavia rs, based on videos i dont think veloce is faster. and i have heard that there is no way to turn off all safety nonsense, like DSC to slide it?

[@GROUNDHOGRACING]

@@MeijaJanis nice, but the Octavia RS is a very nice car as well. I don't know if you are talking about petrol or diesel, but if you talk f.e. about the 245hp/370nm petrol Octavia RS, from 0 to 100km/h with around 6.5sec it has no chance against a 280hp Q4 Giulia (5.2 sec.). 100 to 200 the stock Giulia would also be faster but not so much I think..maybe 2-3sec.. Yeah you cant turn off the traction unfortunately..but the car can be fitted with the race knob from the quad. If you want to;)

[@MeijaJanis]

@@GROUNDHOGRACING mine is petrol, it feels faster than these figures, Alfa should win 0-100 but looking at this video i would win alfa all the time from the roll. I have had multiple roll races with beemers and it goes very quick to 180. anyway if on Alfa you can not disable properly DSC then there is no point to have that car, shame.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Have a look at the video below. @moddedmotors has retrofitted Race mode to a Veloce which would of course deactivate the driver aids. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2KbonyhoamIfpY

[@Back_Road_Hero]

The remap is almost necessary to turn this into the car the chassis deserves it to be. I was thinking that this could be the performance bargain especially with the 8 speed box but it just lacks that emotion connection that the QV has in spades. Ed

[@richardwild76]

I absolutely love my Veloce and this video pissed me right off. Your answer is honest and surely correct, but the question was stupid from the beginning. Of course it isn't a patch on a QV, but why would you expect it to be. Would you review a 330i and compare it to an M3? It's not trying to be the same car. If you want a 500hp supercar then you know what to get. If you want a mid level, reasonably fast saloon car that drives like magic, you want to differentiate yourself from the rest of the crowd in their grey german cars, and you have an eye for beauty, you have to try the Veloce. The car deserves to be reviewed for what it is.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

I truly believed before the drive that for the same outlay of £45k, and in the real world, that the Veloce would be perfect. This was shot without any preconceptions, and in real time. In the same world, your money is better spent on a used QV. It’s just my opinion and I respect yours. There’s no doubt that dynamically they’re very similar but for effectively the same running costs the QV wins hands down. Please go and drive one and drive one and report back. Ed

[@patrickanthony3632]

@@Back_Road_Hero Absolutely! Waiting for the current used car market prices to return to normal so I won't overpay! Makes great sense to get a used QV! Veloce is absolutely amazing at its price too though!

[@rlsedition]

@@Back_Road_Hero "Effectively the same running costs"? No way, as everything you'll do to maintain a QV will be cost more money than a Veloce. Oil changes, brake pads, tires will cost more, as well as keeping it fueled and insured. Would I still like a used QV? Why, yes I would.

[@sawit_b4u]

@@Back_Road_HeroI went with the 2024 Veloce Q4 as my first Alfa. I will be waiting for 2024 QV in 2026 to upgrade into IF I feel I truly need more out of my Alfa. Thanks for your opinion, I did weigh the used QV but the whole car market in the US is teetering on the edge right now so a great deal may be forthcoming before 2026!

[@Atothen1234]

I have a veloce and I personally don’t want any more power. I prefer to rev my cars out and not break the speed limit in 3 secs but I do see how some people may like having ridiculous amounts of power. Regarding the boxster and 911 some people say the boxster is the better drivers car fwiw.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

It was just my two pence worth. My comparison was a new Veloce versus a used QV for the same money. The QV wins this contest and isn’t that much more expensive to run. Depreciation is also much less as well as the new car will obviously lose more over the same timeframe. Ed

[@mario53554]

hello, I do appreciate your video and your honesty. I think you are spot on about one thing, the Veloce can be pushed to the limit in a very responsive way and it makes you feel safe while you do it. I do have it, a 2021 MY, and the dynamic aspect of the driving is insane. I have a few friends with the QV and what we agree is: The Veloce is a great fun car in the range from 30 to about 90 mph, because is nimble, agile and lighter (about 500 lbs lighter). So, I do enjoy the fun in the back roads, on a serpentine, because of the phenomenal chassis and how the 280 hp are flowing, but yes, 0nce you hit that agile "cap" of the ~90 mph, is the moment in which you know is missing the power to keep up and give you more. The QV is the Iconic Alfa Romeo, power, sound, aggressiveness and the QV badge, which is only on the top Alfa Romeo for a specific reason. For me the Veloce is the entry level and possibly even the mid range enjoyment, now I know it, I would possibly consider to get a used QV in the future so to upgrade, more for the Iconic reason and possibly a Collectible aspect of the car, they will not do a QV on a Giorgio platform ANYMORE, so.... will be unique in the future :)

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Well said. The Veloce drives beautifully but is slightly overshadowed by its bigger brother. If the QV didn’t exist we would all be saying that the Veloce is the best Alfa ever!

[@UnenthusedEnthusiast]

It’s funny how the Veloce gets more noticed than the Ti Sport predecessor. The Ti Sport was the same vehicle and had better packages available. Adaptive suspension etc. They change the name and all of a sudden there’s 100 Veloce videos popping up like it’s a all new trim.

[@AP-cc1uw]

Great review. I totally understand that as a Quad owner the Véloce doesn’t do it for you. It makes complete sense. I’m in Canada where Audis, BMWs and Mercs are everywhere. And they’re all black, grey or white. I’ve test driven the M340i, C43 (wagon of course, because we had it here from 2019-2021) and the S4/S5. My favourite thus far driving wise is the M340i, with the C43 coming close because it’s one of the last fast wagons we get over here. But there are amazing lease deals on Alfas because they aren’t selling, and they’re basically unicorns here, which is appealing. The main issue with the Giulia is the lack of an in-between V6 option to compete with the C43 and M340i. The Estrema with 350hp would probably be one of the best drivers’ cars in the world for the money. It’s tragic they don’t have an option with more power AND AWD that’s not the insanity of the Quad. It’s making my choice between the C43 wagon and a Giulia very difficult indeed.

[@ijoseluis]

Well, I'm thinking about that. In my 74 yo, I am ready for indulge myself some peace of mind. My reflexes are still sharp, but I'm wondering that some distance from brisk emotions can probably fit better to the real curve of life... Thank you.

[@brianl7025]

Thank you for your honest review, When the top of the range is so good, all the others seem to fade. veloce is a lovely looking car, still get more emotion from the thought of the QV though.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

I was hoping Brian that they would be a little closer in performance to make the Veloce such good value. In essence they’re worlds apart in emotional connection.

[@kevinwall795]

Thanks for the honest appraisal. Good to hear the brutal truth from a QF owner, as I keep switching from wnating a used QF to a new Veloce/Estrema.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Don’t do it Kevin. The thrill of a new car will fade very quickly. The Veloce handles great as it’s essentially the same car but lacks the punch. Running costs are only marginally more. Think 911 vs Caman.

[@markbroadheaf1593]

Unless that car has the Performance Pack the suspension is not active. I agree it moves along nicely, mine has 18's with non run-flats, rides really well. Decent brakes although like most road cars they will fade if you push it hard. 30 mpg ? I wish, if i drive like a saint in economy mode maybe - I generally get around 25mpg average though this will be more like 16 mpg on a hard drive. Later cars might be better, mines an 18 plate and has had issues - electrical fault that drained battery, rear brake corrosion ( known ), parking sensors have stopped working and the nearside headlamp is letting in water ( over a thousand quid each ). The quick steering seems natural when you get used to it and it handles well so you can cover the ground at a good lick and still soak up broken tarmac better than my previous M2 in this respect. If I keep it will probably remap it, depends whether it develops any more faults. I would have liked the QV but the pandemic had a big hit on my business.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Thanks for letting me know. It’s a lovely car. Mapping would be a great idea. Ed

[@allenpaul102]

I think the other thing to consider is maintenance on a quad is just way more than a veloce. And a used quad is probably going to be abused.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Mine will cost me £650 over the next 3 years for routine maintenance using the fixed service plans here in the UK. See my Giulia QV video on it. Ed. Alfa Romeo Servicing Costs. Amazing 8 year service plans from Alfa Romeo keeps costs to a minimum. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpfNaI18Z71nisk

[@robertljungberg5282]

AMAZING CAR ALFA ROMEO 🇮🇹 🚘 🏆👑

[@spice3767]

Love your reviews, just brilliant 💪💪💪

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Much appreciated! Ed

[@mikepalmer7687]

Lovely Car

[@booniedavillier504]

Thank u for the info.. Great video sir, well done.

[@myou6675]

Great video. An unrelated matter, I’m ready to change my original set of Pzero Corsas on my 2020 QV and wanted to go for a set of Michelin PS4S ‘s. No issues in sourcing the fronts but cannot find the rears in 285/30/19 anywhere in uk. Did you upsize your rear tyres?

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Yes. Went +10 on both front and rears to keep the rolling radius the same as close as I could. See the other tyre video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXfRipqiadWfaa8

[@myou6675]

@@Back_Road_Hero great thanks I’ll give it a watch

[@Belgalad_QV]

Don't do it. Go for standard size Goodyear F1 Supersports instead. They should be on stock.

[@myou6675]

@@Belgalad_QV thanks for the feedback, I take it you’re running them on a QV or have done in the past? I might persevere with sourcing the correct size PS4S, fronts are easy, rears less so.

[@theLEGOguy22]

@@myou6675 GY F1SS are as good or better that the Michelin.

[@alejandroenriquezmoncayo235]

Nice review!

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Thanks. Ed

[@Porgeot]

Is all Gulia "brake by wire" ? And how do the brake feel when you are use too it? Is it a no go on a trackday?

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Haven't used it on track but you get used to it. It's not really an issue to be honest although pulling up smoothly to a stop can be a little tricky to master initially. I'd prefer the safety that it gives over a conventional system. A byproduct is that the cruise control has an input over the braking system as well instead of a conventional system that lets the speed run away when going downhill. Makes the radar cruise a fantastic option to have. Ed

[@hasrahasan500]

initially I was aiming for the Veloce but subsequently drawn by the sexy rims of the big brother haha ... by the way, looks like the Hulk?

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Thanks. I wasn’t expecting the end result. 280 is a lot of horses but it takes the full 503 to make it feel special. The fact that there’s an overlap on pricing makes it a no brainier for me. Hulk. Yes 😜. Ed

[@hasrahasan500]

@@Back_Road_Hero cant wait for my sexy rims, for me its the ultimate 4 door. got my Hulk in 19 and im very happy with its appreciation haha

[@patrickanthony3632]

@@hasrahasan500 Nice! Did you end up buying the Veloce, and upgrading its set of rims to those of the Quad?

[@hasrahasan500]

@@patrickanthony3632 noooo. QV all the way haha

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Thinking about this or a civic type R This is the more refined choice but I have an old Jag XK8 and a newish X5 so missing the hooligan factor

[@Back_Road_Hero]

You need the QV for the ultimate buzz. But a remapped Veloce might be more like it. It’s a little unfair to compare it to the Quadrifoglio but a second hand one is the same price as a new Veloce. Try one of those. Ed

[@rlsedition]

@@Back_Road_Hero I checked on used QV pricing before I purchased my used Ti Sport. That $30,000 price difference still remained, even used, unless you are OK with a first year QV with well over 50k miles on the odo; those priced at over $45k.

[@rlsedition]

"Spine tingling" costs another $30,000 new from Veloce.

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Yes exactly. But for the same outlay, in my opinion, a used QV makes more sense in the long term. Ed

[@rlsedition]

@@Back_Road_Hero That depends, as running costs will, indeed, be higher for a QV than for a Veloce. And it also depends on what else is in your garage. For me, with a Ducati, I don't also need a car with 500 HP, though it would be nice to have.

[@petersoto7202]

Thats an old Veloce

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Old? It’s a 2020. I wasn’t aware there were any changes between this and a new one. Either way it wasn’t what I was expecting. Ed

[@petersoto7202]

@@Back_Road_Hero I bet that is a pre 2020 you can tell by the interior.plus my 2021 Veloce has the QV wheels which are standard on a Veloce in Australia

[@TheMartui]

*havent been through a single curve with the veloce - Viewers, better get the QV for a daily driver cause the veloce lacks power on the straight and you will need that power this review is shit cause its only for rich people...

[@Back_Road_Hero]

Yes I do read all the comments. Thanks for the remarks but there’s no need to be nasty about it. I was comparing a new Veloce which is the same cost as my own 5 year old QV. For the same money the QV IS the better car. The chassis dynamics are the same. Ed