Why is a Used Alfa Romeo SO CHEAP!?

Tonale? Stelvio? Giulia? Why are these used Alfa Romeo's so cheap? They're actually loved more than some of the biggest SUVs and cars today, but in a lot of cases you'll find these Alfa Romeo's cheaper than their competitors like BMW or Audi.
Why is an Alfa Romeo cheap? Find out now.
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[@xynostasos9022]

My whole family has been driving Italian cars (Fiats & Alfas) for over 30 years in Greece. We never faced any major issue. Having competent mechanics and just doing the usual preventative maintenance goes a long way in reliability.

[@ECPP]

That’s great to hear. Yes maintenance is big and a little DIY is helpful

[@shortsongs9394]

Annual maintenance like anything goes a long way.

[@HEMI345S]

Did you use only cold pressed olive oil on the engine 😂😂😂

[@xynostasos9022]

@@HEMI345S no, I mostly use Valvoline and change oil before 5k or max 9 months. My father used mostly Castrol Magnatec on his 1.2 FIRE Stilo. My uncles old Alfa 155 reached 400k miles with Eni/AGIP oil an no engine rebuild. You can say whatever you want about bad examples in electrical/electronics of Italian cars but you can't say anything bad in terms of mechanical durability of the engines.

[@andee997]

@@xynostasos9022 Valvoline oils are the best. I can't say the same for Castrol oils, they don't keep to specifications, they are too fluid.

[@tomlabarb2640]

Stelvio owner... prior BMW, Audi, Infinity, Lexus, Nissan and Saab owner. This car is fantastic !! Handles great.. has been extremely reliable Mine had a sticker of $58K, I got it for $26K with 23K miles in 2019.

[@ECPP]

Wow that sounds like a great buy for sure.

[@markriobr]

Got a great deal for a beautiful and fun to drive car.Have fun

[@TheRealCatof]

You do understand that having 23k miles is not a measure of reliability, right?

[@markriobr]

@@TheRealCatof You're right, but as the owner says above. For him has or still is pretty reliable

[@kromahj]

@@TheRealCatofhe said it been reliable, people say BMW are not reliable but I still have my 2018 BMW 3 series which I bought new .

[@miks564]

there's a simple short answer: Low demand for Italian brands, because most people believe they're unreliable. The mindset of most "car uninformed" people is that German cars are good and reliable and Italians are weak and unreliable. Neither is true, but that's what most believe and 'hearsay'.

[@alison797]

hearsay

[@lazybones69]

Yet German brands are the lowest scoring for reliability from most warranty companies.

[@WazzaG076]

I’m in Australia and retired now but from the mid seventies I owned 3 Alfas continuously for around 40 years. The last bought new in 1988 we kept 24 years and sadly had to sell due health issues. Apart from the initial purchase period I always had them serviced by small special Alfa or Italian car mechanics. I joined the Alfa Club and found them so supportive when it came to ownership issues. Now you can just access a plethora of assistance online from fellow owners even on Facebook. I never encountered any unusual problems and so long as you adhere to the servicing schedule you can expect a reliable driving and ownership experience way in excess of their competitors. Shop wisely for a well maintained model, find a local owner’s group and a recommended specialist mechanic and you’ll never have to worry about the limited Dealer network. Both the Giulia and Stelio Veloce will give you pleasure you couldn’t believe.

[@JLws6CA]

I own a 2019 Stelvio Quadrifoglio and aside from 5k oil changes, these cars are easy to maintain. The 2017-19 had issues with leaking radiators at the seam which most get fixed under warranty. I was fortunate that Alfa did a goodwill warranty repair for my radiator as I was 1 year beyond the warranty but only had 22k miles. They took care of me and driving the QV is like nothing else. I encourage anyone to test drive even the lower trim levels and you will be blown away. 2020+ models seem to have very very few mass issues.

[@ECPP]

Sounds great. How many miles do you think these vehicles are good for? These machines are a compelling consideration

[@TheRealCatof]

22k miles and out of warranty says all I need to know about Alfa's confidence in their cars

[@chunlohk]

I got a turbo and gauge cluster pass warranty. If you are reasonable and have good relationship with dealer. They may help you.

[@davidporter2770]

I am South African, 78, and have owned seven beautiful Alfa Romeo,s. Each one has been trouble free and given me many hours of joy, and happy motoring.❤

[@nathanmjackson1210]

@@davidporter2770You should have bought some lottery tickets with that luck!

[@barryvenison6803]

On my 2nd Stelvio .. 1st was a 2018 , current is a 2020 that I bought out the lease . Fantastic car , no issues , drives fantastic and if I had the money I would upgrade to a Quad .. Very satisfied Alfa owner 🤙🏻

[@user-wg3bj6fy1m]

I love Alfa Romeo And Maserati❤❤❤

[@brianb7844]

My daily is a 2022 Stelvio Veloce and just purchased a 2023 Giulia QV. Had a Giulia 2.0 Ti prior and loved it. Have owned many cars and the Alfas by far have been my favorites.

[@leaningtower73]

I dunno why Americans have so much prejudice on Alfa Romeo cars. They are fantastic and not at all less reliable than a BMW o Mercedes. I got a Mercedes B Class, BMW X3 and Alfa Romeo Giulia. They are all solid vehicles. I live in Europe and people love Alfa Romeos. There is a world outside the USA walled garden

[@edombre4637]

You are so right! There’s a lot of misinformation in the USA about Alfa’s, and the USA citizens seem to revel in disparaging Alfa and Italian brands for some reason. A number of people I talk to smirk when I tell them I have a Giulia, yet they’ve never even sat in one, let alone driven or owned one.

[@user-bs1wx1tb7e]

How is the turning radius wall-to-wall of a Giulia? There is some strange information on the internet about it, on one place it even claims the nonQV versions have like 12.5 meters radius, which is a land boat for us living in urban areas. Would like to get a Giulia but not if it is not nimble enough in the city.

[@edombre4637]

@@user-bs1wx1tb7e I don’t know the measurements of the turning circle, but I can tell you that I have no problems negotiating tight city spaces and turns in my Giulia Quadrifoglio.

[@Zach________]

@@user-bs1wx1tb7ethe q4 has a bigger turning circle than a box chevy

[@dontelindsey5846]

Blame it on the media. It's like how the media trashes Chrysler all the time even though other companies are no better.

[@groosbro1]

As an owner of a 2021 Stelvio I can say that it drives great. There were several problems in the second year of owning it. There was a leak in the intercooler coolant reservoir, a leaking rear shock (could have been the wife's fault), and a more serious issue of a broken wire in the harness for the rear brake wear sensor that took the dealer almost a month to sort out. We were given a brand new Tonale as a loaner. Since it was repaired there have been no issues.

[@ECPP]

That sounds like a decent result. With that said, would you buy it again and which did you buy? The Quad?

[@danielparker6153]

What was the cause of the leaking shock?

[@groosbro1]

@@ECPP No, the 4 banger, it's enough power. It drives and corners almost like a car. I regularly catch myself driving 80+ without noticing how fast I'm going.

[@groosbro1]

@@danielparker6153 Most likely my wife's turning into the driveway in a manner that slammed the rear right into the curb... And the wonderful condition of Nooyorkistan roads.

[@TheRealCatof]

3 issues ina new car is insane. Thanks for assuring I never buy an Alfa

[@randyonthekey7519]

After 30 years of driving BMWs I just bought a 2020 Giulia Ti Q4 29000 miles. $24000. Absolutely love it!!

[@ECPP]

Great cars

[@MrBenji-fo6nr]

I just got a 2021 Giulia today with 24k miles for about 30k. I fell in love at the test drive

[@billpriddy9326]

Have had a Stelvio for three years. One of the best cars ever owned…I’ve driven Audi, Infiniti, Mercedes and BMW and I’d buy another Alfa in a heartbeat.

[@ECPP]

That’s great to hear

[@davidporter2770]

Thanks for an excellent review of Alfa,s. I am South African, 78, and have owned seven beautiful Alfa,s which have given me many hours of happy and trouble-free motoring.❤.

[@ECPP]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@markkrispin6944]

When it comes to car reviews, Mark you are the GOAT. I never miss any of your videos.

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much Mark. Hope you have a great week. I know here we are getting cold snap again in a couple days. Staying warm.

[@patrickdonovan6192]

I had an Alfa Romeo Stelvio from new. Three years, not one issue. One of my favorite vehicles ever.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@colinaldridge259]

We own a Stelvio Q4 Veloce. It is a brilliant vehicle. Drives like a sports car and with 280 hp it is quick. It weighs less than 4,000 lbs so performance is great. And it looks fantastic, just that little bit different.

[@azmedz]

My Alfa Romeo, giulia was rocksolid 2018 TI sport. Someone sideswiped it and totaled it. No fault on my own but best car I’ve ever had and I have a Honda cross tour right now, but I’m still going to buy another Alfa

[@ECPP]

The Alfas are fun cars which matters to many and reliability seems to be slowly improving

[@azmedz]

@@ECPP absolutely once they figured out, the relays were out of the initial problems and some of the small things like the hoses. I did a KZbin video about my Alpha Romeo swapping out the relays after that it was solid.

[@edombre4637]

My 2020 Giulia Quadrifoglio has been rock solid and reliable 100% so far. I do put the car on a battery tender however if I’m not going to use it for 3 or more days. That, plus regular maintenance, is the key to reliability in these cars (any car for that matter).

[@HEMI345S]

Is that an electric model ? 😂😂😂

[@eddiek1231]

Good to hear but having to put a modern car on a battery tender is insane. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard of Alfa owners doing this. That’s a pretty annoying and unacceptable if you ask me 🤷‍♂️. Still undecided if I take a risk with an Alfa…

[@edombre4637]

@@eddiek1231 I’m a bit obsessive - I used to do the same with my previous BMW’s and Merc’s. It’s probably not necessary in reality to do it that often. Good luck in making your decision- let me tell you the quadrifoglio is the best car I’ve ever had.

[@eddiek1231]

@@edombre4637 always happy to hear good things from actual owners, and realistically buying one is still a possibility…which is why I still watch videos about them 😆. The Quad is too much for my needs but I would love to own one…I just know the turbo 4 is more than enough for my lifestyle.

[@flex-ic2sf]

@@eddiek1231 take an alfa, no mechanical problem, trust me, the driving experience is incomparable with the other brand of car

[@dunnvillegrandtour8900]

My first car was a 1985 alfa33 quadrofoglio verde. After fixing the rust there was always had minor quirks with the car. However I still loved it and had a special place in my heart

[@rlsedition]

Note: The US didn't get this model.

[@kallekas8551]

I had an 85 33 Quattro wagon, better than my ‘sud but not as good as my 75. Having said that Skyline GTR is best.

[@rlsedition]

@@kallekas8551 We didn't get the early versions of the Skyline in the US, but wasn't that way more expensive than an Alfa?

[@kallekas8551]

@@rlsedition Hi! In Australia we got R32 GTR in 1990…AuD$110,000! I had ex Japan grey import R33 6 years old for $35,000. I had 1990 Alfa Romeo 75 Milano which sold new for $40000. Alfas way cheaper than GTR…🤣

[@rhadiem]

I've had my Giulia TI for a year now, bought it used, and am loving it. No issues beyond basic maintenance and a sensor going bad. Drives on rails, good MPG, and is very unique.

[@glennlindamood]

2021 Giulia Ti with 25K trouble free milles, best car I've ever owned! Bought out the lease last year! Makes me smile every time I drive! We're lucky to have a great dealer (Strongsville Alfa Romeo) here in the Cleveland, Ohio area. As others have mentioned, I think changing the oil every 5-6k miles instead of the factory recommended 9600 miles helps with reliability! (Also, make sure service center uses correct oil! No "Quikky-Lube" oil changes!😂)

[@Daywalker222]

Most Americans don't even know this brand exists. Not their fault. I don't recall ever seeing an ad for them.

[@ECPP]

I do t see many around either

[@AdamPSutton]

Great video. I was going to comment yesterday but held back. The perceived reliability and issues thing is real and even though I've owned Italian cars all my driving life and had very few issues, and never been left stranded, i didn't want to tempt fate because I was going to take my 2003 alfa 156 GTA for a long drive today. It was faultless, and was just a shame the weather was so bad today here! The key is to find a decent independent specialist, and we are lucky in the UK as there are plenty. I've never skimped on maintenance and it's never let me down other than a recent hiccup that looks to have been an ECU connection come loose causing some weird issues. I honestly think a lot of problems at least of the past are because they're sporty. People buy an alfa and drive it hard, but service it like an economy hatchback. We also have a Stelvio and again it has been trouble free. The reality is friends have had far worse problems with German cars that are perceived to be stalwarts of engineering and reliability.

[@ECPP]

I agree, perception is a beast. A good Indy is all a person needs to keep these on the road

[@xvsj5833]

Sporty and edgier says it all ! Great comparison Mark ! Have a fantastic weekend 🇨🇦

[@ECPP]

Thanks, you too!

[@lvsurfcat8584]

Problem starts after the Tomale in this video, yes most of the problem is nickel and dime, seems like a decent vehicle for somebody who's mechanically inclined, very good informative video you put out, thank you I've been a subscriber to your channel 👍

[@markriobr]

Had a convertible red Spider 1986, got it on 1992. Sure took to a good friend who worked for a BMW dealer, knew everything about European cars. He fixed and made a even better car. Was my car for almost 4 years, living in L A one thing you all can be sure. Had a great time with my Alfa

[@ECPP]

Those were great cars from a simpler time

[@kenneykole]

Stelvio owner here, I was scared to buy it if it will gives me a problematic in future nope, i was wrong, I loved the looks on front.end. so after I test drove it and I loved it! Loved the way it handles, great power out from 4 bangers, n such, so I ended up buying it. I put 60,000 miles, never had any issues and mine is 2018.

[@rodrigoneves530]

Wasn't expecting such a good review of the brand! Great video!Where can I check the ranking you talk about? Is the JD one? :)

[@vinniecorleone62]

Thank you for sharing this informative profile on the new Alfa's, as I've wondered as to their reliability.

[@ECPP]

You are very welcome. Do you have any preferences for model specific

[@vinniecorleone62]

@ECPP Yes, the Giulia.

[@rlsedition]

@@vinniecorleone62 I bought a used 2020 Giulia about 3 years ago and am one happy customer - nothing else drives like it!

[@macek8832]

Brilliant car....driveing Gulia last 5 years....Absolutely best driving sedan....no issues.....just oil and filters

[@ECPP]

Couldn't agree more!

[@ulucio86]

I have a 2017 Giulia with 125k miles loved it. Bought it since it had 3 miles on dash

[@4191good1]

Mark, thanks for reporting on Alfas including their satisfaction numbers. I had some Fiats and Lancias back in the day I enjoyed. Just wanyed to tell you I bought a 2017 Jaguar F-Type R under 20k miles and you were instrumental in my puchasing of the car. Really like the car.

[@mettfreund1727]

I´ve got a 2017 Giulia 2.0 Turbo. Now with about 160.000km (99.000 miles). I´ve never had a problem with this car, expect the battery. The car is producing strange failure codes if the battery gets weak. In total it´s my third Alfa Romeo. Before I had a 156V6 and a Giulietta QV. It´s important to give them their maintenance, some good oil every year and be sure the engine oil is warm enough before you play pedal to metal and these car will be faithful companions.

[@ECPP]

That’s great to hear and I agree, better than what many people give them credit for

[@foreLeftFCH3]

I have 2019 Giulia Ti and it's been very reliable bought it used with 14,000 miles had a sticker $51,280.

[@failingup4907]

It's funny that no one mentions the Giulia was designed by Ferrari. The Quadrifoglio has a Ferrari engine in it. That's a big selling point right there.

[@Adam-ub9nu]

Well, sort of...

[@failingup4907]

@@Adam-ub9nu look up a video on it. Ferrari designed and built it. Fact

[@failingup4907]

Correct! I've seen the video. They did it because Alpha's contract with them was expiring. Alpha owned Ferrari at the time. I believe they did it in some insane time frame also, like a year.

[@mf8759]

This so the video I’ve been waiting for. I’m apart of a few Alfa Romeo pages on Facebook as I’ve been looking into getting one. Not set on it but I’m looking at the Alfa Romeo Guilia TI Sport with AWD.

[@TrojanRabbit521]

Had a 2017 Veloce for 6 years. Completely trouble free except replacing the battery. She handled amazing and very comfortable. Biggest issue was she could tempt me to have too much fun.

[@ECPP]

Very nice. Cool cars too

[@Deetroiter]

It's the same way with Italian motorcycles. Moto Guzzi, in particular, are some of the best motorcycles you can get and they go for dirt cheap prices all day long because of ignorance about decades/half a century old stereotypes. No, Tony doesn't need to fix it again because there's nothing to fix! Shaft drive, dry clutch like a car, and robust engine that will easily go 100,000+ miles with basic maintenance. Seems that Alfa-Romeos are suffering from the same ignorance of the past. Gorgeous vehicles inside and out that offer the driver a certain refined and sex appeal while still being manly about the experience. I'd take an Alfa over a German brand any day of the week, no doubts about it.

[@tomtom8306]

Owned a Stelvio, the performance and steering were very lively. I live in Houston, service wasn't a problem, but expensive at the dealer.

[@davidpolachowski1206]

I have a 2019 stelvio TI sport that I bought with 22000 Miles. I've only had to replace the battery along with scheduled maintenance. Issue free otherwise.. great car! I've also considered moving up to a quad.

[@ECPP]

Absolutely great SUVs

[@jflscenic]

u made extremely nice video, maybe issues u mentioned are not that frequent, and some i never heard... as proud GiuliaQ4Veloce owner i can tell you that it is a proper beast! I think there is much more problems with leaking water radiator and turbo..... i bought mine with 90000, outside warranty, i had to cover those.... but i bought the car from a guy who made those klicks with consumption 8.7 l/100km.... i cannot go below 12..... engine was clogged.... after some period, i managed to make her breathe again, and reseal and replace that radiator..... after then 30000 kms, not even a glitch! what a car.... and for battery, yess factory ones are proper crap, new GEL ones solve millions of gremlins!!!! and yea, bigger battery, better! and kill START/STOP!

[@adriano8809]

1) Italians assemblers get paid $1600/month, engineers around $2500; 2) Alfa Romeo hit the American market on 2017 and today most of Americans don’t know what brand is when they see one but they recognize how incredible they are; 2) Due to the fact that they don’t sell many the dealerships are forced to lower the price in order to sell them; 3) Dealerships maintenance is way too expensive and unjustified.

[@ECPP]

Exactly a person need to find independant mechanics

[@adriano8809]

@@ECPP but I recently discovered that their pre owned Alfas come with 5 years warranty which is dammn good!

[@NealsBrush]

I have two Giulia's and they have been very reliable, fun and practical even. The 4 banger is very light feeling and quiet, the QV is worth it's premium price just for the incredible sounds the engine makes when you give it the beans. The seats are really snug and comfortable for long trips, even the optional Sparcos. Battery tenders are a must for the QV.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@boerplaas388]

Thank you very much for a great and honest review on Alfa Romeo. I absolutely love Alfa and have been driving them all my life in South Africa and now here in America. They are awesome cars. Take care of it with services and you’ll have a reliable car. 👍

[@anthonydotb]

Yeah, we have a 2020 Giulia Ti Sport Nero Edizione and it’s been awesome. We were cross shopping with Audi and the Alfa felt like it had more character. Zero issues so far with 40k miles. It’s super sporty, comfortable, unique, super solid and quiet ride. Alfa’s are so under appreciated. Stellantis needs to step up their game and make AR stand out. Did you know Giulia and Stelvios use aluminum body panels, and have a carbon fiber drive shaft. Crazy!

[@damiannapo8283]

My wife just got a 22 Stelvio Veloce and absolutely loves it!!

[@ECPP]

Awesome ride

[@juliansalazar3898]

Own a 2020 Giulia, and I’ve had it for 2 years now. No major issues and drive it hard daily. 100 miles a day, my change brake pad lights barely came on ! 😢

[@supermechi]

Alfa sill makes car that are just looking different! i changed the mentality of my wife, removing the Merc and getting her a Green Tonale.... she is now enjoying driving it around Prague!

[@ECPP]

Awesome, far fewer of those around

[@darkio8849]

great video exotics could you do cadillac next? looking at the ct5v series as my next car

[@ECPP]

We can certainly look at Cadillac as well

[@iraklikh6619]

Owner of Giulia for 10 month 30k miles on it , I got from this 12 k . problem leaking main radiator. Using amsoil oil 0-30 every 5k miles . For 50000 km radiator problem is not good thing but in other hand no other issues so it is somehow good reliable

[@johnbochicchio2806]

You nailed this one! I was wondering when I would see the car guys I follow divulge this secret. I waited until they worked out the earlier issues to lease a 2022 Giulia. It’s a great car. My wife and I also lease a 2021 3 Series. The Giulia has much better handling than the BMW. I also prefer the Giulia’s climate control knobs versus the BMW touch screen climate control access. Since the pandemic, new BMWs have become scarce while there are plenty of Alfa Romeos. That makes the Alfa a much easier buying experience. We’ll be replacing the BMW with another Giulia.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing and yes, I agree, it’s a bit of an unknown gem for those looking for sporty euro sedan or SUV

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@kaelinmarkert5852]

We own a 2022 Giulia Q4 Veloce trim. Love it! You can also purchase a Mopar Protection Plan to cover it up to 125,000 miles.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@bandagraph]

I bought a 2017 with 75k miles in Dec and got a maxcare 3yr /30k for about $2200 Totally true about the weak battery voltage. Mine was was on its 3rd OEM and struggling even with fairly regular driving. Replaced it with a 95 AH AGM and low and behold my stop/start (which i had assumed the previous owner bypassed) started working. Might be in my head, but it seemed like the car performed better and gets better gas mileage after changing the battery as well.

[@MiniBrothas]

I enjoyed one of the Giulia’s from 2017-2019. Such a great car. The handling is unreal. Definitely a great drivers car.

[@ZeroG]

BTW, I found the misfires on cold start were due to low gas in the tank causing air to get in fuel lines during cat light off on cold starts when the fuel injectors are drawing maximum fuel to heat up the cats. The fuel tank is shaped like a saddle and stradles the drive shaft but only one side has a tube sucking out gas. So it really is like two separate fuel tanks connected by a hose, which they did to maintain perfect 50/50 weight distribution. As a result however this means that when you have say, 15% fuel or less (which the inaccurate fuel guage on the dash shows as like 25-30%) then suddenly fuel pump goes to maximum setting to supply the max setting of the injectors for the cat light off to have its rich mix, this creates a whirlpool effect in the low fuel tank and draws a tiny bit of air in that results in a misfire. As soon as the cats are heated and it goes to normal idle, then the misfires will no longer happen, the only exception being a transition to cylinder deactivation in bank 1 around 25mph sometimes could retrigger it as the injectors go from completely off to on in that bank requiring a quick surge from the fuel pump. This can be exacerbated if you get condensation in the fuel as tends to happen if your fuel is low, because all air has some humidity, and lots of air in the fuel tank means some humidity in there, which can cause dew to form on the walls and get moisture in your fuel. I found the best solution is simply to keep the gas tank at least 50% full at all times, and since I started doing that, I have not had a single misfire. I feel so bad for all the dealers who had been replacing coils and spark plugs and wastegate actuators and even whole engines chasing the misfire issue when the whole time it was probably just people with low fuel levels getting air in the fuel lines during cat light off... but maybe some of the misfires were from other issues on some cars? Who knows.

[@ECPP]

Yes there are severel reasons why that can happen

[@kannonclayton]

@@ECPPsir, what are the several reasons please?? Love the video!

[@jennettegonzalez79]

I had two stelvios a 2018 and a 202. Now after someone totalled my second Alpha I decided to go with a mazda cx9 GT turbo and honestly I'm so glad I did I feel that even though is a cheaper car I did an upgrade I love my Mazda

[@ECPP]

That is a great buy. Mazda is doing great things these days

[@GamingProspector84]

They (can) have sensitive ECUs, normally referred to as “electronic gremlins”. Once in blue moon my 23 Stelvio QV will act weird, active cruise control and other safety measures will deactivate and then reactivate, or other odd ball things, which have only happened a handful of times and I don’t remember any repeats thus far. I don’t know if this is particular to the QV model but it doesn’t like dashcams or any other electronic attachment that draws from the battery, this is because the ECUs do a ‘system check’ on startup and if computer detects the slightest irregularities it throws codes. Very minor inconveniences in comparison to how amazing the car is in all other aspects 👌

[@topdollarmobile7460]

i know a guy who had a giulia with 400k kilometers on it. His was not a quadrifolgio though and that may be the difference.

[@tonyvargas368]

I have a 2019 Stelvio and love it. It’s been trouble free and maintenance and insurance is not expensive. For reference I’ve owned an Audi, 3 VW’s, a BMW and two Honda Accord’s. I will never buy another VW product ever again. They literally left me stranded on the side of the road. My Jetta literally blew head gaskets at 45k.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@johnde2754]

You should have taken Scotty Kilmer's advice to never ever buy a Volkswagon vehicle. He is adamant when he states that they are complete junk.

[@hilairetucker]

I drove a rented AR Stelvio between NYC and Vermont. It handled very well and it’s a smooth ride. Though we found the engine compromises the floor space for your feet. I would still buy it after my experience. Mercedes and BMW are nice cars but they are killing it with all the plastic parts in and around the engine, thus making repairs outside of warranty ridiculously expensive. Though if you can find them German manufactured in country then they last longer and are build better for some odd reason. Lexus just has a great reputation from what mechanics and dealers are saying. Hence why they hold up their value very well. I see 2014 IS list between $17k-$30k with reasonable Km in Toronto when I look up the book value on VMR Canada. Jaguar just has a nice looking product but mechanics say stay away from them because the electrical is very problematic and costly to fix. There needs to be more recalls on the electrical and drive train components of these car. And heaven sake, they need to stop overcharging for plastics. Otherwise people are just going to 3D print their own parts.

[@SinlowMusic]

Lol. Your entire paragraph was filled with a few errors. #1. BMW is in line with Honda in reliability as he said. It has been that way for many years now. Toyota even uses (2) BMW engines, interior bits, and electronics. #2. ALL car manufacturers are using plastic under the hood. It has been that way for 20 years. If you took the time to open the hood of the Alfa Romeo, you would have seen it right away. #3. Lexus is a rebadged Toyota for the most part. They are very reliable but leave a lot to be desired in performance, tech, etc. All cars are a compromise.

[@partsandlaborgroup]

Thank you for doing a great unbias video on Alfa Romeo.

[@rlsedition]

Alfa does little/no advertising in the US market and has few dealers here. In addition, the brand was out-of-market in the US entirely for some 15 years, so many potential buyers are not even aware they're out there. Until those issues are addressed (like offering a class leading warranty) we won't see big sales numbers achieved in the US.

[@jamesmyers9285]

A neighbor owns two Alfa Romeo's, one Guila and a Stelvio, both base models and both very nice.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

I have a quad. I don’t care about selling it because I’m going to keep it for decades. Most luxury cars depreciate like crazy. Especially the very expensive ones. As far as reliability, I know, I’m just one case, but I have had nothing go wrong in over five years. but the maintenance cost are horrifically expensive expensive. Like two grand for a serpentine belt that has to be done every 30,000 miles.

[@rlsedition]

The Quad, like most high-performance cars, demands copious maintenance. The base engine car has no such requirements.

[@user-io4sr7vg1v]

I have the veloce spec. I'm going to tune it. Try to get it to 360+ and I'll be satisfied (I think). I will never sell this car.

[@rlsedition]

@@user-io4sr7vg1v I also have the Veloce, only my 2020 model was called a Ti Sport.

[@jwalesoutlaw3294]

Do you get a waterpump, tensioner and thermostat with the belt replacement?

[@2steaksandwiches665]

@@jwalesoutlaw3294 you don’t need it because you have to do it so often that you don’t have to do it the first time. I’ll probably get that done the second time

[@AarmOZ84]

Alfa is my favorite Italian brand. Unfortunately, I live closer to a Ferrari certified maintenance shop than I do to one for Alfas.

[@ECPP]

Well may have to. It a Ferrari instead. Most of our Ferrari dealers also sell Maserati and Alfa in the same building

[@AarmOZ84]

@@ECPP Yes. Ours did as well and then they stopped selling Alfa Romeos and Maeratis by the end of 2023 due to budget cuts. Great place to find a used supercar or a classic Ferrari.

[@HailCaesar-lm4bq]

It’s a real fun to drive car . Had zero problems with my 2017 Giulia . That big sunroof will toast u if u live south . Audi is fancy VW 😳

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Few dealers and leftover bad reputation for Italian cars in the US from the 1970s, mostly. My 2017 Giulia 2.0 is at 87K miles now and I only had to replace the AC compressor. No local shop will work on Alfa as too few on the road so I had to go to dealer ($1800). Never had any electronic problems; Italian leather seats still butter smooth (even the leather dash has not lifted). I would rate Alfa about on the level of BMW 330i, higher than a Benz C-Class (piston cracking anyone?), and lower than Audi (that EA888 Gen 2 and higher engine is an unstoppable beast). New is easy, its under warranty so who cares? The car is as close as a mere mortal will ever get to a Ferrari sport sedan; its dynamics are THAT good. If you aren't in a major city with independent shops that will work on Alfa, I would not advise to buy used and keep long term.

[@ECPP]

You are right the driving dynamics are better than most and not as unreliable as some say. There are issues, just not as bad as some say, but a good dealer network is imperative.

[@markriobr]

What you should have done was to buy the entire book of your car. Bet you could fixed by yourself, listening some good tunes and a six pack or juice . Change a compressor if you have the tools and space is not a hard job. There labor is a rip off, when is a car not well known. They have so many arguments to keep raising the cost. Do a little search, cost of the compressor will take not even 5 minutes. I'm very curious and would done while waiting for their fixing price.

[@23Piccolina]

Since 2017, I've owned 2 new Giulia's and now we own a 2018 Stelvio. Not one problem with any of these 3 Alfa's. Maybe we've just been lucky. But we enjoy them and after owning many BMW's (7) and Mercedes (5) we feel the Alfa Romeo's recent offerings are better.

[@ECPP]

I can totally get on board with that

[@brianb7844]

The only people who have problems with Alfa's are those that don't own one. Love mine!!!

[@23Piccolina]

I agree@@brianb7844

[@briancolucci536]

If you drive one of these, you will want it. About 1 year in with a ‘22 Veloce - bought it mid-‘23 and it was a steal. My guess is you can still get a lot of previous year models, brand new. I was driving a BMW 4 series, which I loved. This car is better in every way. So - test drive at your own risk….

[@ECPP]

I agree

[@jhhayes1971]

I'm looking at few now and I am also concerned about the cheap price. I'm in Houston There are a few places that service these cars. Plus they are not common like BMW etc

[@jroc0123]

I have one!! It's been great so far.

[@ECPP]

They are fun to drive

[@TREIDAS1]

Good video, thanks !

[@coreyfloyd2302]

This is a solid video good info

[@ECPP]

Thank you

[@chrismiller9032]

Alfa's are an unrealized bargain. Love my Guilia QV.

[@ECPP]

The QV is amazing g

[@danroll81]

I am very happy with my 2020 Giulia Ti. Lots of fun to drive it.

[@ECPP]

They are a blast

[@TexasJuggernaut]

Im looking for a mid suv and alfa romeo has two that im interested in, you can find aome for $16-$19k with about 40k miles, so it makes me wonder why they're cheap? Should i be worried? Also they said dodge has somewhat the same parts, or they're similar, would buying parts for it make it easier??

[@smurfy1543]

I have a 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia QV I bought for half of MSRP and can smoke almost everything on the road.

[@jonathanl2748]

I live in Louisiana and the nearest dealer is in Pensacola, FL, three hours drive away. That’s the only thing keeping me away from Alfa Romeo.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@jonathanl2748]

@@ECPPNice?

[@michaelstaley2241]

I own an Alfa mito 10 years old quality just ordered a tonale as well. Greetings from 🇬🇧..

[@ECPP]

Sounds like they are decent for durability

[@ECPP]

Nice 👍

[@e.b.7568]

Thank you for being honest...

[@ECPP]

You are very welcome. Want to be real

[@jtjt376]

Battery is a huge issue for our Alfa. What we can’t accept is that something keeps draining the suv. Stupid people at dealership said that we can’t leave the car without driving for more than 3 days.

[@brianb7844]

Get an AGM H8 battery and you wont have any issues.

[@fadigeorgeos5697]

The Giulia veloce is my dream car, im looking for a used one in germany with low milage/km and 2020+ the problem is they are pricey, above 30k €

[@lapsaroundf1circuits456]

Veloce owner and loving it!! ❤

[@ECPP]

Awesome. Very cool units. Love the way they drive

[@cyrusthegreat3081]

It is not about money to fix small stuff, it is your precious time and weekend is spoiled !

[@marktreston2982]

Alfas have always had the most attractive and unique designed autos. Is the Maserati Gracale the same as the Alfa Tonale and Dodge Hornet?

[@Endtimes24]

Some of the 2020 alfa romeo giulia and stelvio price of 18k to 25k for ti sport and base! It's crazy I'm gonna get one june

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@kurtjammer9568]

Very good review

[@ECPP]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@glennstiller7616]

That Tonale billboard is hilarious, cheaper than the Dodge Hornet, same car. I'm a Dodge fan but I don't know what they were thinking.

[@ECPP]

Haha

[@aliefphil1119]

What was that Beautiful Black on Black Machine behind you at the 4:15 Mark?

[@JohnnyLREACTS]

In my country and province (Ontario) they force the licence plate on the front. Honestly completely ruins the look of the front of the car even putting it off to the side I can't get past it. I wish we didn't have this stupid regulation still!

[@johnobrien8773]

I think we all remember that listing that read "Alfa, needs work" that even our girlfriend found funny. That is what's hurting their sales new or used.

[@ECPP]

Haha cheers

[@guypepe9478]

'18 4C & wife has an '22 QF ☘️ Stelvio. No issues.

[@larrychew1]

An excellent balanced review that's thorough and accurate. My experience with my 2019 Guilia and 2021 QV has been very good. Experienced electronic issues with a weak battery in the 2021 that was solved with an AGM battery. Using a local independent BMW shop for the regular service.

[@eyeofthescar6890]

It's Stellantis. Should be able to do scheduled maintenance at any of their dealerships. You can, after all, buy a Mopar warranty.

[@andee997]

I own an AR 159 2.0 JTDM, vintage 2009, and the car is the best car I have owned. I have previously driven mainly Volvo cars. They are comparable in terms of durability, the Alfa is much more comfortable and fun to drive.

[@ECPP]

Yes they are fun

[@flex-ic2sf]

Lots of people say that Giulia and Stelvio have electrical problems, but all the electric parts come from Germany... Which supply other brands like bmw and Mercedes...

[@ECPP]

That’s fair. There is a lot of parts interchanging in many brands

[@Tonyx.yt.]

used and cheap? not really... i bought a used one with 5 years and low milleage and was worth 55% of the msrp 🤣

[@Gluesnail]

I have a Giulia and honestly prob one of the best cars I’ve owned more reliable then my Mustang and maxima

[@ECPP]

I believe it. Fun cars

[@alfamods2.0T]

The main issue with the misfires is related to the multiair unit. My whole channel is for Alfas

[@ZeroG]

They are cheap cuz ppl dont look for em and Alfa does not advertise in USA. People also do not realize the safety value of Alfa: the best-handling car with 50/50 weight is also the safest because it is less likely to spin out. Alfa also has five-star ANCAP safety test results. I got Stelvio NRING limited with carbon ceramic brakes ($15k option) and Thatcham security system (top-end alarm) for $40k below sticker when it was just 2 years old lol and the car was basically like new with 25k miles and 18 months of warranty left.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@davidhunternyc1]

Please, let me know when you have an 8C Competizione for cheap!