You Guys Were Right ! Costly Mistake Restoring Pontoon Boat ( Grandpa Series)

[@mikelove6417]

I have no need, want or room for a damn pontoon boat but after watching the first couple videos I keep finding my self looking at old ones thinking I could restore it. Thanks for showing how much work it is, really helped to talk me out of it :)

[@lynnmoser6918]

My dad had a boat. We went fishing now and then, more crabbing...but then he'd say there were 2 happy days; the day he bought it and the day he sold it.

[@joeharmon4293]

It wasn’t a screw up !! It was a learning experience !! 😅If you never fail in life you will never succeed! 👍

[@tjr8342]

Please post more of this series! 👍🏼

[@patrickdiehl6813]

Dude you have an angel of a wife! You all Rona'ed up, she's sleeping next to you like "yeah whatever"🤣A 33 degree countersink bit is what would have worked better than the Forester bit in this application. Learning is a life process, and as long as we keep learning we get better at what we do. Love this series, can't wait to see more👊

[@arodavenue]

@17:28 el flaco flying high off that adhesive! 😂 thanks bro cant wait to see more of the grandpa series!

[@johnss449]

Fishman Joe would fiberglass everything 😂. Thats a lot of work and you always come up against new issues. Enjoying the Grandpa series 👍👍😎

[@KathyWilcox-vx2vj]

I am so glad to hear that you are better , I was one of those people who said you looked like chit. You still look tired. Sooooo your not getting enough sleep and real rest. Please take better care of yourself. ❤

[@sonnyedmonds2212]

I haven't gotten to the "Screw Up" yet, but I'm sure glad my toon has an aluminum dry deck on it. No wood, except the seat bottoms and backs. Keep pecking away at it. I call my 22' pontoon a powered pier. Tons of fun! Sea Bee's: PPPPPP - Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance Cheap ain't cheap in the end.

[@Joethebaitguy]

hands down the greatest video ive ever seen

[@chichidouglas5078]

The vinyl and the glue aren't the problem. You didn't do the prep work. You have to float the seams and holes with some floor patch material first. You tried to use the glue to do that and that won't work because you have to use a flooring roller on top of the vinyl after you lay it down, and that pushes all the extra glue and air bubbles out the sides. You'll have the same problem with thicker vinyl and different glue. It's the same as a paint job if you don't do any prep work it's going to look like chit

[@bigE35094]

Hey you need a 50lb floor roller...

[@Kiki-Kauai]

Yes I’m invested in this little boat! Plus it takes my my mind off what’s happening here in Hawaii. Looking good Alfred!🌺

[@1999Valkyrie]

Flaco es una gran amigo! ((Sorry, my Spanish isn't very good, and it probably isn't proper Cuban.)) Missing you on the Chit Show.

[@MrBumbles2]

being i have restored many boats , pontoons etc.. the floor is crucial .. get all bolts attached and then disassemble again and epoxy again. and then use tuff coat rubberized coating.. its non slip and very durable. its worth the cost imo. have a 1970 carravell that the floor is rock solid after a 20 yr resto. ..

[@GmanfromTexas]

What floor did you use on your carravell?

[@MrBumbles2]

@@GmanfromTexas i had to gut the whole thing , put in new stringers, with pressure treated 2x6 then used FRP 1/2 ply coated in epoxy then coated with tuff coat. been in there 24 yrs now still solid as can be. its a major job

[@GmanfromTexas]

@@MrBumbles2 sounds like a job well done

[@teresacastro8899]

Can't wait till its finished! WAIT FOR IT!!

[@michaelmalone6858]

I told you before to replace the 3/4 ply and seal it, use countersink phlips screws! Seal the wood on all sides before using

[@zanebrown5142]

@Alfred Montaner thanks for the great videos. Here are a few pro tips. 1. Always use the forstner bits FIRST to recess the bolt heads. You'll have a nice dimple at the bottom of a hole so your twist drills will stay centered and you won't have crooked bolts through the deck and frame. 2. Use square head bolts so the decking can be easily chiseled to a square recess so they don't spin. 3. Forget "Floor Adhesive".... too thick and wavy for thin material. Contact Cement is your friend and actually works better with a smooth surface(no need to scuff surface and potentially go through the sealer). It won't matter that you have thin vinyl because contact cement is very thin as well. Just use a roller and work from the MIDDLE doing it it 2 halves. Take your time for NO air bubbles. Lay the vinyl and get it square. Pull back half of it(I like to go diagonally). Once the first half is glued, it will guarantee that the second half is straight. Edit: BTW, I would NOT seal the wood on all sides. Those holes that you drill trough it will allow ingress of moisture with no way to escape if it were sealed on all sides. That's the reason why siding of a house is not painted on all sides. All wood must breath because it will eventually get wet. Moisture doesn't kill plywood but CONSTANT moisture does. Just my 2 cents. No criticism just trying to help.

[@kenwenzel9040]

You are cheap Alfred. Love it.

[@briangately8104]

Love that vinyl flooring! If you have any problems - just change it . Plus, it'll dry out quicker - after rain or spray - than indoor/outdoor carpet.

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

With the heat in Miami, the carpet would probably be dry by the time he got that pontoon home!! Besides, it's indoor/outdoor!!!!

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

Okay Alfred, Don't keep us in suspense!!! What did you go with, vinyl or carpet??? You're making us stress waiting for the results! Dang, I'm just gonna look up your number and call you for the answer!!!! LOL!!!

[@Esteban_Herrera]

Will your trim cover the thicker floor? Any plans to seal the bottom of the floor?

[@deantravis6217]

Mrs Montaner's dance floor!

[@ChillingwithDavidB]

Curious if you will seal the bottom to protect the ply?

[@AlfredMontaner]

Its last on my to do list

[@dagger4146]

The reason you DON'T seal the bottom of the plywood is that it traps moisture in and accelerates rot, mold and mildew. Leave it unsealed sot moisture can dry out.

[@BigJonLP]

Woops looked untreated

[@bambamb43]

Good learning experience but you should have replaced the 3/4" plywood and sealed it on all sides and used flat head screws or flat head allens instead of the carriage bolts, great looking material, you can apply what you learned on the next one 👍 You know BOAT is just an acronym for Break Out Another Thousand ! 😂😅

[@samgentile7494]

Alfred, sorry to tell you this but you are throwing money down the toilet in tying to keep the costs down. I am telling you this because I am tying to help you create a safe vessel for your family. You need to use 3/4" "Maine Grade" plywood. And coat both sides of it with fiberglass resin and cloth if you want it to last. The work is the had part, and you will have to do it again and again as it will not last very long tying to do it cheaply. It is the LONGEVITY of the work we do that adds value and saves us additional work and costs. Do it right and it will last 20 yeas without any additional wok or cost. Please, Open you eyes Alfred and carefully look at the bottom of the original plywood deck. It is splitting and cracking and beyond it safe useful life. Once that old original layer of plywood gets wet and absorbs some water it will flex like a rubber band. That thin sheet of 3/8" non-marine grade plywood you added atop the original sheet does absolutely NOTHING to add to structural integrity. Alfred, I am an Old Sailor with over 50 years of boat repair experience. Trying to do it fast and cheaply will cost you more and more money and wasted time, and leave you with a structurally unsafe vessel for you family. There is no such thing as 'overbuilt' when it comes to vessel structural integrity. Bloop, Bloop, Bloop.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

Siempre ha sido un paso adelante y dos hacia atrás. When you have a carriage bolt that spins, put a small blob of gel CA ('superglue') on the flat bottom of the bolt head and tap it in. Give it a shot of accelerator, and then spin the nut on.

[@MikeyDee25]

Did you use a heavy duty portable ROLLER once the flooring was laid on the adhesive??? The roller is the type they use to smooth asphalt once its laid down on the ground. Rent one from a tool rental place Alfred.

[@GmanfromTexas]

It's looking amazing.It's learning experience now you will be wiser when you do mine. LOL. I still think that floor will get very hot and slippery. IMO.

[@rogers.2885]

carriage bolts are square at the head for a reason, when you tighten them up they compress the wood and will hold. You did not have to countersink the heads! Just put them in correct size hole and tighten.

[@Joethebaitguy]

yes did you varnish the top of that ?

[@jacquesafley5828]

Did you waterproof the bottom side of the wooden deck? When you pointed camera underneath when drilling holes it looked like raw wood. Please tell me if I am mistaken. So sorry with deck cover, hope you & Flaco find what you need. Take care, be well. 👍

[@AlfredMontaner]

Will be done later

[@jacquesafley5828]

👍😊

[@KKemp-bt6nl]

Spends $3,000 on a boat. Spends $2,000 grand to get it right. Finds a perfect boat for $4,000 three months later.

[@AlfredMontaner]

Only of life were that easy

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

I hate to say it but the grandkids like to run around and I'm really concerned about the slip factor when that floor is wet. I used a marine grade carpet on mine to eliminate any slipping. I hope you don't have any issues when that boat is launched!

[@KKemp-bt6nl]

I would like to see a kid run around on a pontoon boat. How much running can a kid do in a 6ft wide space?

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

@@KKemp-bt6nl I would guess you don't have small kids or grandkids! They can run around in refrigerator box!!! I still worry about them running to the other end of the pontoon to see something and then going bloop, bloop bloop! Kids will be kids no matter how much space they have! They are fearless because they don't know better!!!

[@KKemp-bt6nl]

@@user-ROBSTIME87121 I do. I get what you mean.

[@lalisalinas7591]

We are really enjoying this series…I think an appropriate name for this boat would be “Fixed Income”.

[@Deb351]

Your in the marine industry you should get the better floor at wholesale price.

[@texaswolfman850]

Ge a floor roller, roll from middle out to eliminate "welts" and air and increase bond.

[@gungadinn]

Alfred, figure out how many and what sizes of fasteners you need, then stop purchasing the junk from HD or Lowes. They're gouging you 3X what you can get quality stainless fasteners from boltdepot. They've got fast shipping. Get some outdoor carpet to cover the wood as well as a gallon of bunk adhesive. Fiberglass resin coated floors won't hold up.

[@MinorcanMullet]

Does this mean the 96mi Garmin radar electronics package with 24" touchscreen chartplotter budget has been wrecked?????

[@robertwhitey6621]

Alfred do you seal the bottom of the deck ? How does the marine plywood hold up to the salt water?

[@bertmyname]

Good morning! Chitters !

[@318dkane]

Is the bottom of the plywood sealed? It looks bare?

[@metaldog7128]

We want more of this pontoon boat build Alfred 🤷🏻‍♂️ and what will you name it ? It’s got to have Fred on it …..AL🐊FRED THE CROCK HUNTER 👍

[@ns4854]

The flat bolts are called plow bolts. McMaster carr will be your best fastener friend.

[@KathyWilcox-vx2vj]

Alfred, is there something that goes underneath to cover the ply wood? I thought perhaps it Would be covered in fiberglass, or is there something that covers and protects that plywood. I have never owned a boat like this . I am a lover of hulls

[@jesvans]

if it last long enough for your needs, thats all that matters

[@AlfredMontaner]

My same sentiments

[@benbirkigt493]

It looks great but I think some people are going to seriously bust their behind with wet feet on that vinyl. I would have spent the extra money and put down some Sea Deck flooring but that's me.

[@KKemp-bt6nl]

In a way, I agree. In a way, I disagree. The material is no different than a bathroom or kitchen floor, no? Plain old sea water isn't gonna cause slip and falls.

[@bekkih3824]

I don't know about what he has here but whatever vinyl they put on a new Bass Buggy is HELLA slippery when wet. I seriously need a solution before the kids get hurt falling in the dam thing

[@bbbbb816]

Hey Alfred if the boat is going to get stored outside make sure to spray the deck with a UV protectant solution.

[@adachilders7798]

What are you putting on the underside of the wood floor so it doesn't get ruined from being wet

[@Esteban_Herrera]

Use Nylon Washers. Don't let the Stainless Steel touch the Aluminum. You will have Galvanic corrosion, also known as bimetallic corrosion, is an electrochemical process whereby one metal corrodes in preference to another metal that it is in contact with through an electrolyte. Galvanic corrosion occurs when two dissimilar metals are immersed in a conductive solution and are electrically connected.

[@BigJonLP]

Looks good to used them many times before they are awesome

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

Hey! you're going to Lowes so just buy some indoor/outdoor carpet and forget about it!!!

[@chuckb9867]

I was thinking the same exact thing

[@RatdogDRB]

During assembly, some anti-seize is never a bad thing. You have stainless steel and aluminum contacting each other, electrolysis can happen, especially when you add salt water into the mix. Would renting a roller have helped to bed the adhesive more uniformly? I'm not sure about that type of flooring on a boat deck though. Might work fine with boat shoes, but more people are going to be wearing flip-flops. Hope no one busts their ass when it gets wet and a little fish slime added to the mix.

[@James_P60]

It looks good.

[@rogers.2885]

All I see underneath the floor is OLD, BAD wood!

[@Deb351]

Buy the right floor for resale value if you want to sell boat.

[@seymourrackoff]

Yes

[@bekind8246]

Rumor has it Alfred will build a special sundeck just for Fred! LOL!

[@johnpoplawski9053]

They make a 50lb roller to roll out the flooring so it does not leave air pockets underneath and gets out all the wrinkles

[@genenoud9048]

Tighten it down flex seal it . They make more then one color.

[@BigJonLP]

You should be using tee nuts they use this on water proof wheel chair upholstery and it will be resistant against salt ❤

[@steveholeman6702]

Like the Grandpa boat !

[@tonyarsenault4256]

I think maybe i would have used Aluminum diamond plating and have the topside sprayed none slip surface like Rhino bed liner. But that's just me because every boat project has different needs and budget.

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

Hey Alfred, I was thinking... ...With all the friends you have in the marine business, I'm almost positive one of them could've hooked you up with a piece of marine indoor/outdoor carpet for that pontoon! The carpet would hide any imperfections on that floor without all the hassle!!! You can't tell me one of your buddies didn't have the hook up for some good stuff at a discount rate! Probably cheaper than the Lowes vinyl (X2) by the time you're done! Reach out brother! I know one would come through and help you out!!

[@AlfredMontaner]

I dont accept free things

[@user-ROBSTIME87121]

@@AlfredMontaner I never said FREE things! I said friends in the know that could put in in contact with one of their vendors that can come up with a not so costly solution. Another solution is a few coats of marine paint. It dries like rubber and looks great. Slip factor wouldn't be nearly as bad as that vinyl flooring and all the work that you're going through times two and maybe three!!!

[@BigJonLP]

I used to work on Fab for a wheelchair company we have built everything to install for personal fit for the customer

[@crispernator]

That is one of the scetcheist trailers i have ever seen i cant beleve they let that be registered

[@junior5389]

,sorry to hear about the cov-19... But I was under the impression that south Florida don't believed in covid. Anyway wishing you and family a promt recovery

[@AlfredMontaner]

We dont thats why i was still polishing and working the pontoon

[@patrickpeterson500]

You're not the only one I lay floors down as well that s*** works shit pretty good. Joe boat be done to

[@keithscudder7136]

Hi Alfred, is this Pontoon a keeper or you are just going to sell it ? Have a nice day.

[@downunderfulla6001]

🍺🍺

[@AlfredMontaner]

That was fast !

[@downunderfulla6001]

@@AlfredMontaner I typed instantly as the notification came through. It’s a good series the grandpa build 👌

[@BigJonLP]

Some people call them stinger nuts they have a wood penitraiting bur that holds the nut in place they mount flat on the top and the bolt comes from the bottom of the angle Iron

[@BigJonLP]

Also works with metal fabrication

[@mikegalgano4567]

The lady in Lowes recommended it . Give me 4 pails it must be good. SMH Good luck Alfred... boats arent cheep!!

[@jesvans]

you should have used a "tile roller" (i think thats what they are called). its basicly a handheld steamroller. 20-25$

[@bigE35094]

Heavy floor roller

[@jesvans]

@@bigE35094 overkill

[@lb7wade518]

We demand a factory tour of Sea Hunter boats new factory addition

[@Esteban_Herrera]

Keep track of the weight you are adding. At least the plywood you added weight is spread evenly but is still weight.

[@KathyWilcox-vx2vj]

You are smarter then that cheap is always wrong with a boat😊

[@KathyWilcox-vx2vj]

You r time and effort was worth more then 15.00

[@patrickpeterson500]

Isn't urgent stuff for the bottom spray you can put on Seal the bottom-up as well and the rest of that wood won't give Rotten All That work you're doing you're gonna have to flip the remove it Then Eventually Like a spray and coating for the bottom of the wood will touch the water splashes save the wood on the bottom to mean mean floor mean deck

[@RobertDavis-ck6qu]

ALFRED I think your dog ate your tools LOL

[@HarleyJohn333]

Joe has a hammer you can barrow.

[@johnmeyer6537]

I think there are some good youtube videos out there that will help you.

[@guyyates3284]

Alfred...I think the saying your referring to is ....cheap , comes out expensive...

[@chrisbible5629]

Stainless, aluminum and water = electrolysis Eventually the aluminum will go away

[@unlimitedj06]

🤣😂🤣😂😂 Social security budget boat. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@martinbowers852]

ha ha this is a real chit show omg

[@patrickpeterson500]

Under Underneath where the water hits first Underneath where the water hits first

[@Gsry-y8c]

Why did you leave the old wood. When it rots away that thin piece you overlaying with is going to be flimsy every step you take. Why are you countersinking those bolts. No need for it especially in such a thin piece of plywood nothing left to hold the new wood. Wow.

[@Joethebaitguy]

leave that johnson be its a good engine

[@paulpryor6668]

Alfred I thought you bought two rolls you could have doubled it up

[@AlfredMontaner]

I still have the other one

[@paulpryor6668]

@@AlfredMontaner it'll be fun when you're done. Can't wait to watch

[@bananaboooey8076]

Be careful with that Home Depot stainless steel… I don’t think it’s the real deal vs. West Marine

[@BigJonLP]

I'm whana be grandpa how is the grandkids and how do you feel about the kids

[@deplorable01]

The lady in Lowes knows (nose) !?!

[@davidschneider9237]

One is sweating more than the other

[@rickbarros4958]

Wet that floor before you make grand assumptions. I am keen to know if it is slippery. I have redo my floor covering and I have been looking at some options. Foam/ carpet and now linoleum.

[@sam-y8t]

Eva foam is not that expensive

[@michaelcarmean4906]

BOAT 🛥 Bust Out Another Thousand