ALIA CONFIRMED! Bizarre Powers Explained in Dune Part Two

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4 ай бұрын

For the first time, just weeks before the Dune part 2 premiere, the official marketing campaign finally acknowledged the existence of Alia as her strangeness and unique abilities were teased. A discussion of Time’s exclusive interview with Dune Director Denis Villeneuve and what this tells us about the creative approach to portraying the bizarre powers of Alia Atreides. Spoiler warning if you are unfamiliar with Frank Herbert’s Dune.
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@NerdCookies 4 ай бұрын
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@RoelofMalan
@RoelofMalan 4 ай бұрын
o no , what a CRAP VOMITING Video ,and you the narrator even more shit sorry for the refined words but they say it as it is. 💩💩👎👎👎
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 4 ай бұрын
Elaine, it is probable that Denis is trying to show Alia has something akin to clairvoyant omniscience. All the ESP Herbert writes about in the Dune books are very real. Perhaps you'll get a chance to read my autobiography once it is published. My life has, oddly enough, been full of many instances of our paranormal potential manifesting itself. The more we shed our regenerative ego the more these things occur. Peace
@mattmims2880
@mattmims2880 4 ай бұрын
The accent in Alia is on the first syllable “ahl”, not the second. It’s also pronounced “AHL-ya”, not “a-LEE-uh” like the old R&B artist Aaliyah. If you’re going to make a video nerding out on this, idk, you might figure out how to properly say the name first…
@adrianmcmahon5731
@adrianmcmahon5731 4 ай бұрын
I've read all six Frank Herbert Dune novels multiple times over the years and I've always seen Alia and her fate as one of the most tragic individual fates in Dune only really surpassed by the God Emperor himself. None of the adaptations have really captured that properly so far although the Children of Dune miniseries made a reasonable attempt at it. I'm quietly optimistic that Villeneuve will do it justice.
@FVD
@FVD 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, Denis plans to stop at Messiah so hopefully, somebody just as credible will have to carry the reigns going forward. Hopefully, the scriptwriters can stay on to keep the consistency going, Greig Fraser included as well...
@adrianmcmahon5731
@adrianmcmahon5731 4 ай бұрын
@@FVD the following on Children of Dune & God Emperor would suit proper big budget mini-series adaptations rather than films. We'll have to see if the proposed Bene Geserit series is a success or not first though and that has had a rocky birth process so far.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 4 ай бұрын
I've read and see all the books and films. They're okay
@jessetodd4004
@jessetodd4004 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! God Emperor would def. not be great as a movie...But I think Children could work as a movie, esp. if Brodick, Ferguson, Chalamet etc. sign up. Seeing Leto II's transformation and ascension on IMAX would melt my face off!
@khankrum1
@khankrum1 4 ай бұрын
@@jessetodd4004 Children of Dune could end with a projection of Leto's fate as God Emperor, rather than trying to make a complete movie tgat would fail.
@hamishsewell5990
@hamishsewell5990 4 ай бұрын
I’m hoping they get the creepiness across - a toddler that doesn’t act like a toddler, that laughs at v adult things.
@di3486
@di3486 4 ай бұрын
YES!!! her creepiness is everything.
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 4 ай бұрын
With wicked knife skills as well...
@zorak964
@zorak964 4 ай бұрын
People who watched in Mexico are saying adult Alia appears and the actress is Anya Taylor-Joy.
@HevonCZR
@HevonCZR 4 ай бұрын
The problem is the uncanny valley or it to become kinda goofy for the general audiences
@hamishsewell5990
@hamishsewell5990 4 ай бұрын
@@HevonCZR true, but I think that’s the point, she’s supposed to be off-putting, creepy. A child who behaves like an adult because she is an adult, albeit in a child’s body
@paulsnell534
@paulsnell534 4 ай бұрын
Alia in some ways is more important than Paul. I hope they do part 3 but to understand the danger that Alia is you need part 4
@paulsnell534
@paulsnell534 4 ай бұрын
But Children of Dune is possible too as a film as we already have a Sci fi series for the story
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 4 ай бұрын
How do you figure Alia is more important than Paul? Alia is a minor character, interesting true, but hardly important for the overall theme. Christ, the Guild's more important for the story than she is! But I agree with you, they need to do parts three AND four. (And maybe five.) Best sci-fi ever written. "The Spice must flow."
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 4 ай бұрын
The abomination is a hard character to create. Their is a lot of risk going into the uncanny valley of human perception.
@wiilov
@wiilov 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that be a good thing, in this case?
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 4 ай бұрын
@@wiilov uncanny valley makes things look weird and to people, the weirdness can be a barrier to enjoying and paying attention to a story.
@charlesbritzman501
@charlesbritzman501 4 ай бұрын
@@marknovak6498good point. It can all begin to look like someone else’s party, can’t it ? Once a production decides to retwire things in a novel for the sake of the movie, it can be a slippery slope. As we all know, they did a lot of that in LOR, but they went over the line having Faramir try to take Frodo and Sam to Minas Tirith. To me, Faramir was the coolest guy in the Trilogy, and he would NEVER have done that. Peter, Philippe and Fran we too far.
@716monk
@716monk 4 ай бұрын
​@@charlesbritzman501 That's not uncanny valley, it's artistic license. The way people get ick from Polar Express facial animation is uncanny valley
@lawrencemills354
@lawrencemills354 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. This character has me worried for this franchise.
@sakajungle
@sakajungle 4 ай бұрын
Holly Shai-Hulud! That's the news we've all been waiting for!
@user-py8jk2yg8u
@user-py8jk2yg8u 4 ай бұрын
Dune minus Alia, is not Dune. She's absolutely intrumental to Paul's arc of failure and into Desert Prophet. On top of that, she's an amazing character with an inhuman-human identity.
@bdso9593
@bdso9593 4 ай бұрын
"Tell them who I REALLY am"
@kcdean1817
@kcdean1817 4 ай бұрын
Introducing Alia is a lynchpin in moving the cinematic story forward, hopefully reaching to God Emperor of Dune. Her story flows into the twins story, twins story starts Leto's golden path, golden path leads to God emperor
@jessetodd4004
@jessetodd4004 4 ай бұрын
I'd just love to see us get Children of Dune! Alia's arc is so grotesque and sad, would be awesome to see. God Emperor though... is kinda just Leto II having jaded monologues then suiciding, it would have to be more of a character study played by a master actor.
@kcdean1817
@kcdean1817 4 ай бұрын
@@jessetodd4004 ya know, Im right there with ya bc Children of Dune is a culmination of most of our favorite characters stories before all the time jumps.. but I cant help but think that F.H.'s over arching messages (religious and political manipulations affect on free will, imo) isn't truly complete until Letos path is fully revealed. If there was a movie, it would be very different, I'd agree, but hopefully by that point it seems necessary
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth 4 ай бұрын
Denis has said it ends with Dune Messiah. So no Children or God Emperor (which personally I would have loved to Leto II as a GodWorm.)
@kcdean1817
@kcdean1817 4 ай бұрын
@@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth Denis is an amazing director and his involvement will be up with Messiah, understandably too, im guessing he has other projects in mind. He does not own the rights to Dune though, if he makes it successful Hollywood will do the same thing they always do... Another sequel, new director
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth 4 ай бұрын
@@kcdean1817 yeah that's what I'm scared of and its gonna end up like them last Star Wars film, absolute jank!! Or Disney get involved.😱
@Stitchman3875
@Stitchman3875 4 ай бұрын
It's about time they confirmed her. She is a very important and interesting character.
@zamgoods
@zamgoods 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I wonder why they treat her like a blind item for so long.
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, how they deal with Alia will be critical. They need to handle that with care so it doesn't end up looking and sounding so crap it takes you out of the film. If anyone can do it Denis can I reckon. Cheers.
@josenathanieltendencia245
@josenathanieltendencia245 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they prefer to have Alia hidden from the promotion trailers so that it's gonna give us a surprise who'd play her role in the movie. We'll be able to know once we have watched it, perhaps.
@Shaitanshammer
@Shaitanshammer 4 ай бұрын
Alia's ability to be in Paul, and Mohaim's mind is by nature paradoxical and involves something akin to none corporeal time travel. She's related to at least one of them, and maybe even both. This really doesn't explain in what manner Alia is going to appear on screen. Still think they're going to do some Hobbit/Dwarf FX here to make a fully grown woman appear a child.
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 4 ай бұрын
Apparently she was only able to do that once . And she appears to have lost her abilities after Paul's ( spoilers * ) death. Or walking into the desert.
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 4 ай бұрын
She is related to Mohiam..she is her grandchild, because Jessica is Mohiam's daughter by the Baron Harkonnen.
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 4 ай бұрын
@@caronstout354 yes female line.
@londomolari5715
@londomolari5715 4 ай бұрын
I think in this case we need to give Villeneuve some slack. Sometimes fans can be hypercritical if the portrayal of a character does not meet exactly what they imagine. Alia is tricky, and I think Villeneuve will do his best and it will be good. On another note, it appears that Villeneuve will take a bvreak from Dune to do another movie before tackling Dune Messiah. I hope he does the third installment of SIcario.
@alphamorion4314
@alphamorion4314 4 ай бұрын
He Made a second installement of Sicario?
@gusgaulaf5598
@gusgaulaf5598 4 ай бұрын
​@@alphamorion4314no, there was a sequel to Sicario but it wasn't made by Villeneuve
@wisenige
@wisenige 4 ай бұрын
For all of you who are saying Alia will just remain in Jessica's womb the whole movie, riddle me this. Have you forgotten about the time jump that takes place in the book after the water of life ceremony? Have you forgotten the vision Paul already had in Part 1 of baby Alia being held by Jessica? It would be the BIGGEST disservice to the source material if Denis decided to not do the time jump and just have Part 2 take place in less than a 9 months span, just so they can skip out on trying to make Alia work on screen! I'm more worried that we won't get Jamis's funeral!!!
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 4 ай бұрын
"Usil give water to the dead!"
@wisenige
@wisenige 4 ай бұрын
@@caronstout354 I WANNA HEAR IT! 💦
@vexed2nightmare
@vexed2nightmare 4 ай бұрын
i'm worried about the exact same thing 😭 but i've been watching a lot of the recent interviews and zendaya alludes to a scene where she can't cry and has to show emotion so here's hoping we get the funeral!
@doobadood
@doobadood 4 ай бұрын
also didnt paul trained a battalion of fremen the weirding way? pretty sure it would take a long time given the number of fremen in the sietch.
@Mechulus
@Mechulus 4 ай бұрын
Jamis' funeral will likely be cut. It would likely complicate things too much to have Harah introduced in the mix. Some things are best left to those willing to read the books. I rather like when some details are reserved for us book readers. We're the 'true' fans here. It would be much as they did for the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy - Glorfindel and Bombadil were largely ignored, but we who read can savor the detail they add to the story.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 4 ай бұрын
That is awesome. Alia is a character that MUST be in the movie. Thanks Elaine for this great news.
@thataintrightisit
@thataintrightisit 4 ай бұрын
I really don’t understand how anyone didn’t think she’d be in it. Didn’t think she wouldn’t for a split second, she’s literally in the first LOL
@zipkip4996
@zipkip4996 4 ай бұрын
I was scared because i read screen rant who must not be fans of the books say that Jessica will take Alia's role. Also i doubt there'll get a four year old they'll probably age her to 7 or 8@@thataintrightisit
@TheDoctorIWho
@TheDoctorIWho 4 ай бұрын
She is in some way. +++spoilers+++++ She will be portrayed by "The Queens Gambit" star Anya Taylor-Joy. Fits I think
@thestanleys3657
@thestanleys3657 4 ай бұрын
"a witch!!! burn her" -monty python
@paddy7812
@paddy7812 4 ай бұрын
She turned me into newt…………. I got better.
@ceemack2165
@ceemack2165 4 ай бұрын
On Arakkis, it would be awfully hard to see if she floats.
@astocrabman2099
@astocrabman2099 4 ай бұрын
@@ceemack2165 if she weighs the same as a duck she'll float, then we can BURN HER!!!
@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882
@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882 4 ай бұрын
@@paddy7812 "Mostly." - Newt.
@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882
@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882 4 ай бұрын
@@ceemack2165 Where does one find that amount of Spice Beer?
@michaelnorman4476
@michaelnorman4476 4 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to seeing how he handles this challenge. The difficult thing when transferring from paper to imagery, is that everybody imagine something different. So for some people it won’t be done right, for others it will be “Just how I imagined it” and for others it will be more of a “I didn’t think of it that way, nicely done.”
@davidboivin7996
@davidboivin7996 4 ай бұрын
Introducing Alia here is critical to moving forward into Messiah. Unfortunately Villeneuve has no plans at the moment to direct Children in which Alia is a main character.
@kenaustinardenol1338
@kenaustinardenol1338 4 ай бұрын
There is always one thing that dothered me about Alia. Normally reverend mothers just had acces to their female heritage line, but it seems( wont give a big plot for later away I hope), she can be bothered by male forbearers. Paul and, later, Leto are Kwisatz Haderach and can do both. Is Alia some sort of female Kwisatz Haderach? Or is that part of her abomination?
@adrianmcmahon5731
@adrianmcmahon5731 4 ай бұрын
I took it to be an aspect of being an enhanced abomination rather than she was a female Kwisatz Haderach, there has to be at least some elements from being Paul's sister that bled into making her a super abomination if that makes sense.
@andya.4186
@andya.4186 4 ай бұрын
She doesn't have her own persona to shield from the male side. It's why all abominations have become insane. Leto and Ghanima both find a way to protect themselves from insanity, but Alia doesn't figure it out. Spoiler........She does later become possessed by a male in her Other Memories.
@Banfa100
@Banfa100 4 ай бұрын
I’m calling it now… Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia’s grown up voice/ adult Alia. You know it to be true!
@caoimhemacnally6393
@caoimhemacnally6393 4 ай бұрын
Nah
@BibliotecaOrganica
@BibliotecaOrganica 4 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS
@joesmith201212
@joesmith201212 4 ай бұрын
You are a modern day prophet
@heimdal8
@heimdal8 4 ай бұрын
Well, she attended the UK premiere dressed up in a weird white hajib so…
@tracys169
@tracys169 3 ай бұрын
@@heimdal8 Many bashers say, it looks like a hijab, and it's white Dior Catholic nun-inspired wedding gown LOL. It's probably worn because it looks like her costume in the movie or future costumes. Then ppl got mad when they were told that (on Instagram) and continued to bash the non-Muslim religions and cultures for misappropriation and at the actor to wear it. It's so fun to watch ppl get all riled up and upset over an outfit.
@Banzai431
@Banzai431 4 ай бұрын
Oh yes! I've been waiting for this. Good coverage, Elaine. Thank you!
@bifrost1377
@bifrost1377 4 ай бұрын
My daughter (yep her name is Alia) will be thrilled that "she" is in it. so excited!
@MelvinCruz
@MelvinCruz 4 ай бұрын
If Frank Herbert novel is poetry writhed the voice of Nerd Cookies wit her Calming Excitement voice is the way to hear that poetry... Much of the details of the Dune novels are missing from my memory been in a time were I was developing my English and lot of ideas escaped my comprehension. Now with this videos i can understand much more of the ideas portrayed in the original novel. Hope the Chapter 2 get as interesting in the character development than the previous one and your description.
@micahwiley8742
@micahwiley8742 4 ай бұрын
I think this all suggests Alia might be in the womb throughout entirety of the film. I hope they do the time jump and she is becomes the creepy toddler but based on recent interviews and articles to me it suggests she might just be a telepathic presence from Jessica's body. DV was quoted saying the biggest change from the book was how they handled Jessica's character. What do you think about this?
@Wolf10media
@Wolf10media 4 ай бұрын
Having us on edge about this reveal was smart marketing. We can only hope it pays off. Cause this could go three ways. Unintentional Hilarity. Uncomfortably Creepy. Or a mixed of whether we're ok with it or we love it. Alia is an interesting case indeed. And the anticipations continue to climb for us. To quote Thufir "It will take time."
@markplaw9496
@markplaw9496 4 ай бұрын
Boom, now I'm full on excited. Thank you for this .
@legi0n47x
@legi0n47x 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling they may portray much of this similar to Paul's premonitions in the first one. Time will tell.
@ravenstalons154
@ravenstalons154 4 ай бұрын
Super pumped for this! Managed to grab a ticket for a Leap Day screening!
@blakereed1654
@blakereed1654 4 ай бұрын
If they don’t bring Alia to the forefront before the Fremen storm the Emperor’s palace, it will be a critical mistake. Alia infiltrates first as an ambassador for Paul, and SHE kills Baron Harkonnen. If they change this, it’ll ruin the movie.
@FrozenPalm
@FrozenPalm 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. She needs to be the one who kills the Baron. I fear, after watching this and hearing other accounts, that she will ‘influence’ Jessica to do the deed. It won’t be the same.
@wiilov
@wiilov 4 ай бұрын
There's been a few things that make me concerned about changes. Hoping I'm just being paranoid.@@FrozenPalm
@adrianslair9656
@adrianslair9656 4 ай бұрын
It won't " ruin the movie" it will be a missed opportunity drama queen
@iridiumMirror
@iridiumMirror 4 ай бұрын
The other thing that I wonder about is whether they will show a Guild Navigator.
@dmnddog7417
@dmnddog7417 4 ай бұрын
I hope not because there isn't one in the first book. If they do, it would just be cheap fan service just because fans want to see one.
@jimhoover7345
@jimhoover7345 4 ай бұрын
@@dmnddog7417no but the Spacing Guild does need somewhat of the spot light in this movie.
@chiesiucm
@chiesiucm 4 ай бұрын
Collider interview with Denis dropped a spoiler that Alia is in the womb doing things for a long time : )
@chiesiucm
@chiesiucm 4 ай бұрын
@@lordcrunk4790 oh it's fine. without all these wonky adaptations, would as many people know about dune?
@Balder-gb4eq
@Balder-gb4eq 4 ай бұрын
Alia will have to be cgi and a voice actress because i doubt a young real life actress could convincing pull it off
@scott4092
@scott4092 4 ай бұрын
That's a very insightful way to think about adaptations, you can only do your own interpretation because by adapting a story, you kill it. I dig it.
@robertpardinas4939
@robertpardinas4939 4 ай бұрын
Alia as a projected consciousness while embryotic is a brilliant artistic interpretation and melds perfectly with Dune's spirit and aesthetics.
@uglybob7505
@uglybob7505 4 ай бұрын
And about time too !!!! I think the film would have still been good without her but now that its been finally been confirmed I feel a whole lot more confident that episode 2 is going to be AMAZING !
@JesseRignall
@JesseRignall 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see what he does. I have total faith in a time where tempering my expectations has become a necessity for most franchises.
@swordmonkey6635
@swordmonkey6635 4 ай бұрын
An interesting contrast between Paul and Alia was their limitations. Paul didn't have ancestral memories of a Reverend Mother and his prescience was limited and stopped upon Chani giving birth. Alia didn't have prescience, but had ancestral memories (both male and female). They were both incomplete Kwisatz Haderachs in these ways. It would be Leto II that would combine prescience and male and female ancestral memories when began implementing The Golden Path.
@RobertGerman
@RobertGerman 4 ай бұрын
Alia had to have at least a mention in the movie.
@AGoldenPolaroid
@AGoldenPolaroid 4 ай бұрын
​@@hypatia137 I don't entirely agree. Alia's role in the 1984 version is one of the worst parts of the movie. It's an example of something cool and creepy working on page, but translating to unintentionally funny on screen. Can Villeneuve make it work? Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if her role is smaller and less unconventional. She needs to be introduced, but beyond that, I find it more important how she's going to be portrayed in the Messiah film.
@AGoldenPolaroid
@AGoldenPolaroid 4 ай бұрын
@@hypatia137...autistic?
@callam4336
@callam4336 4 ай бұрын
@@AGoldenPolaroid agreed its near impossible because of the limitations of child actresses. i do not blame Denis.
@larrychrysler
@larrychrysler 4 ай бұрын
I know he plans to only make three movies by ending with Messiah, but I so would hope that he would continue his future film making to continue the story by filming both Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune afterward.
@jonarrolovsson9580
@jonarrolovsson9580 4 ай бұрын
To me it sounds like she will be in the womb the entire movie but it wouldnt mske sense if there is a time skip (unless they change that too) and i really hope we get that scene with Alia, the emperor, reverend mother and the Baron since it is so iconic and if Lynch could do it so can Villeneuve
@munkaccino
@munkaccino 4 ай бұрын
I'm very pleased to return to your channel for dune hype, and hear you're using a more normal voice for your videos now
@robadamson1
@robadamson1 4 ай бұрын
To the unobservant, she possesses the shape of a toddler with toddler movements and strange sensibilities. To the initiates, she would have the shadow of a toddler with the shifting image of an adult woman. To Paul, she would be his adult sister shifting through various actions and timelines, like Janus. To the Kwisatz Haterac, she is Paul's adult sister, Alia the Knife.
@Aquatofanablue
@Aquatofanablue 3 ай бұрын
I thought the idea was to do a third movie if this next film performs as well as the first? If that is the case, more of Alia’s story would really be explored in that installment per the layout of Herbert’s books. It will be interesting to see what is followed or changed in the storyline. Hopefully we will get a third movie. 😊
@gadfly149
@gadfly149 4 ай бұрын
Claudia (Kirsten Dunst) had such a vibe. Alia is intrinsic to the broader story. She is left alone to navigate a complex series of events with no allies. She deserved better.
@catherinebrowne8495
@catherinebrowne8495 4 ай бұрын
But remember, in the book: Interview with a Vampire, Claudia was 5 years old. They had to use an older child in order to get the subtle variations of Claudia dying, becoming vampire and aging for over a hundred years (I may be wrong on the age) and still being a child. They had to use Kirsten Dunst simply because an actual 5 year old does not have the maturity to portray her accurately. I wonder what they will do about Alia? She is a very deep character.
@gadfly149
@gadfly149 4 ай бұрын
@@catherinebrowne8495 Very true about Claudia. It will be interesting to see how Denis handles Alia, for sure.
@JezzaBondiBeach
@JezzaBondiBeach 4 ай бұрын
So HYPED for this film !!!
@ga1actic_muffin
@ga1actic_muffin 4 ай бұрын
Now the only thing left i want confirmed is more of the spacing guild and the NAVIGATORS!
@FranklinsLighthouse
@FranklinsLighthouse 4 ай бұрын
Sorry Grandfather, you've met the Atreides gom-gabbar.
@alexgreen2521
@alexgreen2521 4 ай бұрын
Isn’t anyone else worried Alia will be in the womb the entire movie, and they’ll skip the time jump? Sounds to me like they’re gonna give Alia’s big scene from the end of the book to Jessica..
@benmorgan9748
@benmorgan9748 4 ай бұрын
You're not wrong about most of this, but the big scene goes to Paul
@michaeljohnson5444
@michaeljohnson5444 4 ай бұрын
God, no.
@benmorgan9748
@benmorgan9748 4 ай бұрын
*Spoiler alert* It will be disappointing if the Baron dies in any other way than at the hands of Alia.
@wisenige
@wisenige 4 ай бұрын
FACTS!!!
@FrozenPalm
@FrozenPalm 4 ай бұрын
Truth. I fear, however, that Alia will ‘influence’ Jessica to kill the Baron.
@wisenige
@wisenige 4 ай бұрын
@@FrozenPalm maaaaaaaan! They better not! 🤣
@benmorgan9748
@benmorgan9748 4 ай бұрын
@@FrozenPalm That’s my fear too, and it sure seems as if it’s heading that way.
@FrozenPalm
@FrozenPalm 4 ай бұрын
@@wisenige I would put $$ on it. I think that’s what they are doing sadly. It just doesn’t resonate the same, Baron needs to die by the child’s hands.
@ryanconway2207
@ryanconway2207 4 ай бұрын
As a lifelong fan, I'm so excited to watch pt 1, then 2 in a month !
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 ай бұрын
Talk about *_A WOMB With A View._* {Great video, NC...👍}
@ryanconway2207
@ryanconway2207 4 ай бұрын
My god I'm counting down the minutes. 10 min preview ? F yeh ! X
@MJSmithGroup
@MJSmithGroup 4 ай бұрын
Alia was a tragic character. The complexity of Alia's character is extremely difficult to reasonably portray on the big screen so she needs to be simplified. And the important nuances don't really come out until the later novels anyway. Paul wasn't the Kwisatz Haderach, Paul was a failed Kwisatz Haderach. He could've been, but his own lack of strength was his failure. His son Leto II was the Kwisatz Haderach. Alia was a blend of "abomination" (bene gesserit definition, awakened to her ancestral memories prior to establishing her own identity) & failed Kwisatz Haderach (her ancestral memories included the male side).
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Elaine
@ZedAlfa.
@ZedAlfa. 4 ай бұрын
In Dune, right after Alia kills the Baron, she sends Paul a sort oftelepathic message that she just killed him & then she tells him that this is a special ability the Benegesserit don’t even know about.
@lundbergchristoffer
@lundbergchristoffer 4 ай бұрын
I am glad they took this approach instead of trying to make some bad cgi toddler or something older than a toddler like in the previous adaptations. Eager to see the movie. Seen the first 8 times already 😊
@Danilochan
@Danilochan 4 ай бұрын
Im fine with creators taking i bit creative freedom in the story. And I have full faith in Villeneuve :-)
@ConkerKing
@ConkerKing 4 ай бұрын
There's a shot in the trailer of woman (seemingly Chani) walking through the desert in just robes, being bowed to... I think this is adult Alia, leaving a message for Paul in the future, which of course he can see in the present because of his powers.... This way we get to meet Alia, but not the baby version, even though it actually is.. ....
@dbsthumper
@dbsthumper 4 ай бұрын
until the aforementioned March release,l’m looking forward to the reissue of the Lynch version of Dune,let the spice flow… 😊
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 4 ай бұрын
"Ya hiya chouhada!"
@bassfever
@bassfever 4 ай бұрын
I'm worried. If Alia is only an embryo and vision for the entirety of Part 2, it will tank the movie in my opinion. That would be an unforgivable transgression and change to the source material. She is critical to the climax of the story, you don't just hand her Gom Jabbar to Jessica. Seriously, if Denis can put sandworms on the big screen but is not able to show us an odd 4-year old girl, its inexcusable. Alia is not a throw-away tangent character, she's actually the most intriguing human character in the entire series. Don't worry about the uncanny valley for Alia, that's the whole point of her character!
@user-yu1pm9vj8j
@user-yu1pm9vj8j 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Laney
@JSTmore
@JSTmore 4 ай бұрын
Now i can relax , Alia is one of my favourite characters in Dune and i am so glad she's in the movie
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 4 ай бұрын
I Elaine, it's been a while, glad to see your take on the upcoming Dune II. Although I understand the fascination the audience has with the character Alia, due to her bizarre birth and odd psychic powers. What I don't understand is why Denis would put so much effort into her? She is just a minor character. Along the lines of Duncan Idaho. She does little to flesh out the canon narrative. Hoping Denis pushes past part three and completely honors Herbert's vision with Chapter House in years to come. Thanks for sharing. All the best.
@paddy7812
@paddy7812 4 ай бұрын
Alia was driven to madness by Jessica’s selfishness in taking the water of life while pregnant. Her fate was sealed in her mother’s womb. Long Live Duke Leto.
@MrSmiley1964
@MrSmiley1964 4 ай бұрын
The easiest way to get Alia's powers across to the masses is to make them read the books before they see the movies. Sure it might seem like a homework project to most of them, but for those who actually read the books and get what's in there and want more...
@darkclaw3296
@darkclaw3296 4 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping to not have my mind killed by fear when it comes to what they decide to show regarding Alia, lol. Nevertheless, I am super excited to see her in Part 2!
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 4 ай бұрын
Only 2 weeks until Dune Part Two
@lawrencemills354
@lawrencemills354 4 ай бұрын
She’s such a complicated character. Getting her right could make or break the film. She’s the one aspect of part 2 that has me worried the most. If they fuck her off, it could derail the whole thing.
@MilesTeg_cy
@MilesTeg_cy 4 ай бұрын
Pre-born blasphemy! Oh, may the curse of Shai-Hulud be upon her grandfather!
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd 4 ай бұрын
I think I am intrigued. I want to see what Villeneuve has in mind. He's given me nothing but reason to believe he'll do the thing justice. The books don't really get into what she can do-and I expect the film won't either in so many words. But we'll likely come away from it with a deeper understanding of what she might be capable of. What great and terrible things she could do without the love and guidance of her mother and her brother…
@AynenMakino
@AynenMakino 4 ай бұрын
I think the power of Alia is best shown by when other people encounter it. If Paul is having visions, and during the middle of one he receives a message from her as part of the vision, that's enough. You don't need any visual weirdness to show that. Same with the reverent mother whom's voices of the past Alia becomes a part of. We already have the sound for those voices happening in the movie, so just add Alia's voice to it. This makes Alia's ability to be in the past and the future obvious. No visual weirdness required. The water of life is a bit trickier. It's the odd one out. I personally think the 'essence' of a person can't be shown. And perhaps it's best not shown. Perhaps it's better to focus on the information that 'essence' is receiving, rather than what it looks like.
@CharlesBiti
@CharlesBiti 4 ай бұрын
Well we have to see her though eventually right ? She is Alia of the Knife for a reason
@AynenMakino
@AynenMakino 4 ай бұрын
@@CharlesBiti If I'm not mistaken, her physical presence only becomes important when she's 4 years old, gets captured, stabs the Baron, escapes and takes part in the battle of Arrakeen. During this time she pretends to be a little girl. So having a regular 4 year old play her character should look just about right.
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 4 ай бұрын
I sometimes forget how awesome this character is.
@edwardx.winston5744
@edwardx.winston5744 4 ай бұрын
Let’s all pray Disney never gets their hands on Herbert’s IP.
@joelreis5366
@joelreis5366 4 ай бұрын
There will be a 3rd movie? What they do in this movie will certainly greatly affect the last one. I need to reread the first 2 books before the movie is out.
@american_patriot6218
@american_patriot6218 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to sse this adaptation
@calolson9572
@calolson9572 4 ай бұрын
Weird thought that struck me - 'Advise her mother from the womb' could mean from the moment she was born? So not necessarily pre-birth but as soon as she was born? I'm probably way off, but an interesting take on that phrase... 😃
@jaumealcazo6386
@jaumealcazo6386 4 ай бұрын
I hope they do all the FH books into movies.
@remedysvulgar9592
@remedysvulgar9592 4 ай бұрын
No demon toddler in dune confirmed they changed it
@catherinebrowne8495
@catherinebrowne8495 4 ай бұрын
Alia is supposed to be about 5 to 7 years old when the Emperor lands on Dune to try and kill Paul and the Fremen. I know everyone here has read Dune at least 5 times, so you know how Alia is portrayed in the book. I am excited to see what Denis can accomplish and still maintain the quality of the film.
@mattmanw54301
@mattmanw54301 4 ай бұрын
I hope We see her using the Voice to make sardaukar unalive each other. Also, how cool would it be if rabban gets executed by the Fremen? They could tie him up outside and let a sandstorm erode his body completely. That would be poetic imho. Put a heavy helmet on, so he is conscious and aware as long as possible.
@Agamon
@Agamon 4 ай бұрын
NiiiiiicccccccCCCCCCceeeEEEEeeee!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Elaine
@carrickrichards2457
@carrickrichards2457 4 ай бұрын
'Hello grandfather'
@iamthesayyadina
@iamthesayyadina 4 ай бұрын
[BOOK SPOILERS AHEAD] The TIME magazine quote makes me think there won’t be a 2-year time jump. Considering Alia is traumatized via the Water of Life ritual, and her presence hides while the most Jessica does is soothe her presence at that point in the novel… it would be a way to dispense with Alia in physical form altogether. She could ADVISE/persuade Jessica to murder the Baron instead of doing it herself. I’ll be disappointed because I firmly believe if we can have a believable CGI Rocket Raccoon with current technology, we can have a believable Alia. However, since Denis moved The Water of Life sequence to part 2, having a 2-year time jump right after that in the same film, it might feel weirder than how it would have felt having it between films. If there’s no time jump, then Paul & Chani’s first son & his subsequent murder will also be cut.
@AGoldenPolaroid
@AGoldenPolaroid 4 ай бұрын
It's almost given there won't be a time jump. Alia will have a presence in the film, but no ninja toddler. For this film, I prefer it that way.
@adrianr87
@adrianr87 4 ай бұрын
I imagined it pronounced Ália instead of Aĺia. Emphasis on the A. Looking forward to seeing it!
@chrisherne6454
@chrisherne6454 4 ай бұрын
I have read the first series Dune books several times, and I keep hearing explanations that don't match what's written in the books in respect of the Bene Gesserit ritual that turns one into a Reverend Mother. They gain access to the memories of all the previous reverend mothers, not those of their female line. That's quite clear in the first book. Paul does not get this gift; that's also quite clear. There is no reason to suppose that Alia would get this gift either, but yet, in Dune Messiah, Herbert clearly departs from his own plot explanation and puts even the Baron into her accessible personalities, which makes no sense, as female Bene Gesserit reverend mothers can only look down the female line. Full access to all personas from both lines first manifests in Paul's children by Chani in the final scene in Dune Messiah when Paul has to fight the face dancer assassin; this then becomes a trope in subsequent novels, but it's one of the flaws in world creation in Herbert's first two books.
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 4 ай бұрын
Alia is the result of a series of mistakes in a deliberately god like bloodline giving her a strong tendency to be mentally and emotionally unstable.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 4 ай бұрын
Ive been waiting for several years just to see whos playing whom in these movies.
@VishnuZutaten
@VishnuZutaten 4 ай бұрын
You can't fully adapt dune in below 6hrs. The idea is there. But without 16+ hrs just can't blame him. Cuts, simplifications etc are a must. For now he was very respectful, very intelligent.
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 4 ай бұрын
Oooo this will be near impossible to do. They’ll have to use a child actor but will she be able to pull it off ..?
@jimmyb2655
@jimmyb2655 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how many years until they make Messiah. Alia is even stronger/weirder in that book, and it's about 12 years after the end of Dune, so she'd be about 14.
@xOubax
@xOubax 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone knows that Lady Jessica is actually the Baron's daughter so her daughter would be the Baron's granddaughter making them legit airs to the Baron's throne
@c.ladimore1237
@c.ladimore1237 4 ай бұрын
so glad alia is confirmed. but describing paul as "peace-seeking" is a bit off. esp. if you consider how he influenced leto ii
@ryanconway2207
@ryanconway2207 4 ай бұрын
Elaine, not that I want to correct you, but I have to. It's not pronounced " Esho-Centric, it's " Esso-Centric.". Having Alia reworked this way makes perfect sense. Anyway, got my Dune pt 1 IMAX middle seat ticket for Friday, see you on the other side !
@khankrum1
@khankrum1 4 ай бұрын
Alia is a tragic figure.
@swordmonkey6635
@swordmonkey6635 4 ай бұрын
Alia being able to see her mother's sexual memories of Duke Leto is understandably strange.
@behavior852
@behavior852 4 ай бұрын
Did anyone catch Chalamet explaining how to pronounce his first name; Ti-Mo-thee!?!
@lpluva1
@lpluva1 4 ай бұрын
I was never totally clear why she undertook the Spice Agony knowing she was pregnant. Was it the only opportunity she would have to be their Reverend Mother and she knew what would happen to her unborn child? I find it hard to believe she wouldn't know the effects, in which case it makes her decision very selfish and immoral as far as I can tell. Was there no time to give birth before the current Mother died? Unless she saw the results as a good thing, but we know what ultimately happens to Alia so I don't think it was. If her Bene Gessurit training allows her to have the control over her body and it's processes down to a cell then could she not have kept the Spice from the fetus? I would appreciate any feedback on this.
@slickandslaycious6579
@slickandslaycious6579 4 ай бұрын
Sounds believable
@maxplank4885
@maxplank4885 4 ай бұрын
My favourite character, long live the witch queen.
@VictorIV0310
@VictorIV0310 4 ай бұрын
Who’s Alia’s actress if it’s confirmed already?
@ojmccaf63
@ojmccaf63 4 ай бұрын
Bet a cgi or a Puppet!!!
@WickedScott
@WickedScott 4 ай бұрын
And you assume it will be an 'actress' Have you not been paying attention?
@BibliotecaOrganica
@BibliotecaOrganica 4 ай бұрын
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