ALICE Pack Review

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[@adrianwainer]

One of the best reviews of a backpack I have come across, much appreciated thank you.

[@OmegaGear]

Adrian Wainer Thank you so much for the compliment!

[@thomasmaraschiello1156]

Like your review and you inspired me to look for one. I found a medium with frame fir$7.00 made in 1976 from a thrift store. I took the pack off the frame and took the old webbing off and used German straps with plastic clips that I sewed to the pack, sewed German webbing on the top of the frame for a carry handle, replaced the hip belt with a Molle one and mixed a 50 /50 of mineral spirites and pure silicone to apply to the nylon bag for waterproofing. Now I have an updated version of an old school backpack that will last a lifetime. Thank you for inspiring me!

[@viewsandreviews180]

I have a large ALICE pack and have found it to be relatively comfortable. My only complaint was where the upper frame came in contact with my shoulder blades and spine. I purchased some pipe insulation (the black foam kind) and put around the upper bar for extra padding and have used it to carry loads as high as 40 pounds for a three day hike with no issues. I’ve seen some folks complain about the waist belt but I’ve not had any issues there and I like the separation (better ventilation) that the pack has. It’s better than some other packs I own for warm muggy days. Saying that the frame and rucksack are tough is an understatement they’re almost bulletproof.

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks for the comments. We really appreciate you taking the time to watch and subscribe to the channel. :)

[@OmegaGear]

Thank you sir, we appreciate you watching - Craig

[@OmegaGear]

Yes, the small version does not have the three pockets on top and the middle pocket on the bottom is the same size as the others.

[@fixdeluxe1]

ALICE packs are a godsend, solid frame combined with rugged reliability. Relatively cheap these days because everybody is moving to MOLLE compatible systems, which often lead to injuries (especially terminator packs). You could always water/weather proof ALICE packs whereas something like a Terminator Pack is completely useless in that respect.

[@BillyBOB-sm3rl]

Great video, the only thing I have to say is you can't use this ruck without the frame. The small or med you can but not the large.

[@OmegaGear]

+Billy BOB Thanks for your support! ~Craig

[@donaldstone540]

Yes you can, you just have to do some small modifications to your pack to attach your straps.

[@OmegaGear]

I have "get home" kits in mine, my wife's, and daughter's cars. I also keep one at work. I also keep a two long term kits ready..one that goes wherever I go, and one at home.

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks for the correction. I did get my descriptions tangled. To be more clear. The large ALICE, is the one in the video, The medium is similar to this minus the 3 pockets on top and a smaller center-bottom pouch, and the small is good ruck with no exterior pockets/pouches. We appreciate you catching our mistake in our description here. I hope this serves to clear it up. Thanks for watching and helping out!

[@cctproductions6976]

There is no such thing as small alice pack all the ones out ther are fake!!!!

[@Maverick.3.16]

You said soldiers AND Marines. Few people know the difference. Great video!

[@OmegaGear]

I know the difference very well :)...thanks for commenting!

[@daveperala4723]

I have my Dads old Canvas pack from 65 when he went to Nam. I prefer it to the 'modern' nylon crap the throw out there now. Get a small hole in it, sew it up with a needle and thread. Simple. Been using it since my first boy scout camp out in 68. Time to retire it now though. Getting a little thread bare.

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks again, you have done well with your choice for emergency bag...these things are pretty indestructible.

[@UnitedTaskF0rce]

Thank you! Because of you, I was able to find the belt that came with the Alice pack. Was tucked behind the frame. Thought someone cut it off.

[@ShowFaithKY]

Thanks Dans! What a great video and explanation of how the system works. I guess we are going to have to get this pack and that War Hammer pack you guys showed. Never enough bags. One for the car and truck.

[@ISOABlessing]

Awesome! God bless and protect you and yours!

[@danieldinnell4944]

As an old army guy. . . . I have a large ALICE with frame and medium with frame. . . . I have taken the medium loaded with 38 lbs for 20-25 miles. . . . comfortable, reliable, and roomy. . . . .

[@instinctsurvivalist]

Good stuff! I like the Alice Packs. Bought a mini for my daughter.

[@anselmoalliegro460]

The classic ALICE pack was the one used in Vietnam. The frames are different. On the original, rather than the frame slipping into a pocket on on top of the pack, the pack was strapped to the frame. You are correct in that the ALICE pack being displayed in this VIDEO is a more recent version. Actually, I liked the original ALICE pack in that I could move it to the upper or lower part of the frame keeping the heavy loads (AN/PRC 25 or 67) on the top portion and the C rations and other stuff in the pack strapped to the lower portion.

[@OmegaGear]

Anselmo Alliegro Thanks for adding your comments. ~Craig

[@sack1234ful]

I got a original U.S one in well ... larger than that, 90 liters. LOVE IT

[@OmegaGear]

Thank you, and blessings to you and your as well! - :)

[@OmegaGear]

That is one thing I do not know...I will see what I can come up with - Craig

[@24HrBusinessFromHome]

Very professional and informative; Best of luck with your channel!!!!

[@raiet2909]

I just wanted to say thanks for this great detailed review of this piece of history, i was looking for a solid backpack for "goin into the woods" which is very strong and can handle some hard use. Normally i would go for some semi high-tech backpacks but this thing.. i don´t know, i felt in love with. Now Im gonna order a used alice pack (about 40$ here in Germany) so thanks and greetings from Berlin, Germany (sorry for my bad english :) )

[@OmegaGear]

Rai Et Your English is awesome! :) I'm glad you found a pack that suits your needs. Thanks for watching and letting us know where you are from! ~Craig

[@HPG45]

Just picked up one of these today, good tutorial!

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks! Please consider subscribing...have a great day!

[@ShowFaithKY]

Another great one Dan's! Just watched the skycrane video too. That was awesome.

[@amrasurvivalchannel2708]

Good video I have the med and LG alice packs and switch out between the two I really like both of them thanks for sharing always learning

[@OmegaGear]

+Amra survival Thanks for watching! ~Craig

[@rays9650]

Hi Dan, Was the Large rucksack changed to fit shoulder straps w/o the frame? In the 1980's, only the Medium ruck could be carried w/o a frame; the Large ruck didn't have attachment points for straps, but they were attached to the frame alone after the frame was attached to the ruck. The one I have from 1985 (not my TA 50--I bought this one at Clothing Sales on post) must be used with a frame. Maybe the design / construction changed after '85 but before the MOLLE system? As I recall, the Army was testing a new system in the '80's, which (I think) may have been the current version of individual load-carrying equipment.--RS

[@OmegaGear]

Dan is not around anymore but I am here to help. All the ALICE packs are made such that you can carry them with straps and no frame. - Craig

[@rightaxlebroken4835]

But is it good for school...

[@harkness1720]

If you want to be laughed at go ahead

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Considering that during the 90's kids would stuff the bags to the brim with textbooks, why the hell not

[@Tony-rd9rc]

I mean he did say you can fit mags in it....

[@JRkINGS-1972]

Chulada de mochila brother tengo la mía desde ase 32 años y sigue al millón saludos desde Toluca city México 👍☑️🇲🇽

[@93cherokee37]

great video. my brother gave me one of the Alice packs after he came back from Afghanistan and I was wondering how to properly use it.

[@phillipmerritt1428]

I've read your book I was very impressed I've been looking on KZbin for your website or your downloads. I passed it on to all of my friends about 10. thanks for the information about the Alice pack but you know where I might be able to get another one of those lumbar straps for the frame? good luck I've enjoyed your book I recommend it to. 💀👍

[@sergeantsilly-pantsjackson1942]

Just bought a large pack with frame for $106. Cant wait to mess with it.

[@tyronewalker5764]

Well done sir, I've been using a medium ALICE for a few years now. But this Vietnam era stuff is getting harder to find.

[@kurtrussell5228]

Vietnam era? This pack was issued into the early 2000s and its absolutely easy to find

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks I do too...the graphics guys out did themselves on this one I thought - Craig

[@andreasovermyer2680]

Cool video really helped me ive been considering to get a new pack for scouts thanks

[@Farquad777]

Thanks for the review! Very helpful.

[@geraldmiller8973]

who knows the difference of a vietnam pack and a later model? give up? the vietnam pack has spring loaded buckles on the front. the later packs have a pull through buckle on them. lc1 vs lc2. they might have some other differences but that is the most obvious.

[@michaelpritchard2350]

What a useful video, thank you Dan.

[@FreemanBG]

Thanks for the video. I have a question though. -Did the US army used this backpack in the late 90s ?

[@thenrylee]

Did the army make a small pack? I don't think they do. I have a small alice pack, but I never could find one with a government tag. The small alice needed some mods. I love my large alice. Best pack for the money, I think.

[@pemo74s36]

please make a video showing how to put and get out the metal frame,

[@scouttroop291]

I fix mine with g glue. 800 lb. Psi. Think it last the life of the pack going to fill the frame joints. Too lock it all down

[@kahe4237]

Hi. Thanks for the very informative video. It contained a lot of useful tips in a short amount of time. However, I do not agree with what you say in the last part. You say that the alice pack is a good choice for the money. I would rather pick a Lowe Alpine Sting or any other surplus 2000 era backpack since they are far more comfortable, modular and cost the same price. Best regards.

[@OmegaGear]

Thanks...check out the link above to our store. We would love to help you get what you need.

[@reverev313]

just subscribed great info.... can we get the weight of the large pack thinking about getting one

[@christopherkyledeleon4193]

How many litres is the large Alice pack ?

[@mmmkeklol]

I am a volunteer in my country's national guard, within a few weeks we will have a 24 day exercise, i am not sure of the type of place we will have to spend those days, but at least 10 of them will be in a forest, i live in northern Europe, so the weather can be rainy, and especially at this time of year, hot and humid and can go to cold and humid really fast, i was wondering, i have a chance to buy the 110L alice pack for 35 euros, i just need to know is it rouged, will it not brake apart, can i trust it?

[@JoeThomas691]

not bad, 25 slots, can keep 2 guns and some supplies

[@WarriorHut]

Hi Craig, appreciate for the sharing. Thought of picking a pack as you mention. However do you think there is a chance for me to own a medium Alice in brand new conditions? - William

[@danielburgosfrez9048]

Hey omega could you huckme up with a alicebackpacks theres no military flea markets in puertorico

[@LOOMIS1638]

I dig the new intro scene'

[@tylerbarth1876]

Hopefully enough to get through cherno.

[@user-hq4zu6wd9p]

Главное преимущество этого рюкзака перед современными - отсутствие пластика в деталях.

[@ShowFaithKY]

How many ready packs do you have Craig? Do I need a 72 hour kit and a long term pack?

[@hendriksenja8979]

Sir. Please make new video.

[@geraldmiller8973]

what about the alice pack with the spring loaded buckles?

[@OmegaGear]

hmmmm, never packed it full of beans...I am guessing....a bunch.

[@johnruckman2320]

You're right, the hip belt leaves a lot to be desired. It doesn't come around the hips like it should to provide support and the buckle is plastic (not my favorite). I got a reconditioned md & lg for $50th. Too a year before they were delivered. One of the shoulder strap adjustment gripea does not hold properly. And you cannot just drop loose batteries in the pockets of the large pack or they will fall out the drain holes in the bottom. There is no support shelf on the bottom. I got them to go gold prospecting, metal detecting, camping, etc. I have degenerative disc disease in my neck and varicose veins in my legs. A school pack makes my upper back hurt in a particular place yet the ALICE with more weight in it does not. Never tried internal frame packs. What's the best way to cover the holes yet allow it to drain? What modifications would you make to an ALICE pack? Should I get a different pack? Should a different pack be used for different situations?...

[@usmchs2993]

+John Ruckman replace alice shoulder pads and kidney belt with MOLLE II ones. also swap out old strap adjusters with new quick release buckles. many vids on utube to show how.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

I know this is months old but change out the ALICE frame with a newer MOLLE 1606AC (ALICE Compatible) frame. It is longer and will place the MOLLE hip belt on your hips! The ALICE frame was never designed to do this and was necessarily short to work with the rest of the ALICE LBE.

[@usmchs2993]

fits fine as I wear an alice Y harness with web belt. pack belt goes on kidneys and alice belt on waist.

[@dougwilliams44]

That's what I did.. Not caring for the newer ACU packs back in 03 when issued.. Now I run a L ALICE with an ACU belt

[@abdullaex4119]

Good vid friend. Are there any mods you might recommend for this old hiker using this pack. Not having the pleasure of youth and strength as you, I have limited myself to 25 pounds to 5 miles straight walk. After that I'm all in. I have med Alice. Thank you sir for your time

[@usmchs2993]

+Abdulla Ex Add MOLLE II Shoulder straps and kidney pads to the pack. Plenty of vids on utube to show you how. Also swap out the older style strap buckles with the quick release 2 piece buckles.

[@indianashepherd]

I really enjoy your videos!!!!!!

[@Wurmfist]

Thank you for the great review of the Alice pack. My Dad gave me one that was given to him and it looks like a brand new never used large alice pack with external frame. I was thinking about using it for backpacking and pig hunting. I have a single point harness for my AR and I was curious if you had any tips or recommendations for carrying the AR with this pack or if you know how to mount and AR on an Alice pack for transportation? Thanks!

[@OmegaGear]

The easiest thing to do from my perspective is to get a two point harness. One points are great for lots of tactical usefulness but require you to basically hold your gun at all times. In a military context that is a necessity. For the rest of us who are simply carrying them for hunting or sportshooting purposes, a two point is more advantagious. As for carrying it in your pack.....only if you broke it down to upper and lower and then stored them.

[@Wurmfist]

Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it.

[@derrickgalan4316]

[@tomohawkravenmoon4518]

do you sell the large alice pack frames? with lumbar supports? got a 1-800#? cost?

[@rays9650]

Just curious--does anybody know when they added the D-rings to the Large ruck? I've carried (in the Army) & owned both Large & Medium rucks--several, in fact--but no Large ruck of mine had shoulder strap D-rings, though the Medium's did. (?) Thanks--RS

[@OmegaGear]

Sorry, I do not have an answer for that. Hopefully one of the other folks watching stops by to answer. - Craig

[@paskurana]

Is this good for going backpackaging? Like Im planning to go to Torres del Paine, Chile, abd its mostly walking and then camping at night, for like 10-12 days. If so, which model fo you recommend? I've seen a lot on the internet, and I need one to attach the camping stuff too

[@galaxymaster]

Pascale Yates im 2 years late and you probably already died because your back broke, but... don't do it man. The alice is extremly outdated even with mods and will hurt your back .

[@roccoreig3711]

I think they can still hold up to today standards for a 3 day hike max

[@Xiia0Sn00pY]

cant believe my country's commandos and recon scout units uses these as modern equipment. dang

[@OmegaGear]

Xiia0Sn00pY These are older bags, not current ones.

[@Xiia0Sn00pY]

DansDepot really? It seemed similar to the ones i saw during a commando graduation parade in the singapore armed forces. What are the differences between the older and newer ones?

[@OmegaGear]

Too numerous to mention, but yes as far as US forces are concernced very few will still use this pack and associated LBE

[@frizenfreeze]

+Xiia0Sn00pY even though its ancient equipment. saf uses it because it works. our recon troopers are also using it. best value for the associated use, which is mainly hauling heavy equipment.

[@Sahkopekka200]

I Love The ALICE.

[@OmegaGear]

We do too bro!

[@Sahkopekka200]

DAMN BRO! :D

[@jamesbarr1043]

websites dont work anymore

[@ismolaaksonen9079]

Alice is Best

[@kirilllait6860]

Ясно, мешок из 1976 года. Годится в качестве музейного экспоната.

[@vgrebel1]

how much does each size weight ?

[@SandStormGamingUKAE]

How many cans of beans fit in this?

[@iaet585]

Take a shot everytime he says ingenious

[@nicholasskific4795]

Hey Dan, Do the medium and large ALICE packs have provisions for attaching something like a sleeping bag underneath the pack? I was thinking of buying one and using it as a hiking pack

[@user1acount]

Yup, two Alice tie-down points like on the sides

[@OmegaGear]

Nicholas Skific Sorry I missed your question, yes they most certainly do. Mike Jones Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad you both stopped by! ~Craig

[@OmegaGear]

What is a conservy? - Craig

[@Cantgetusernam]

How comfortable are these packs to use?

[@nativeguy1968]

i had one about 25 years ago when i was on the streets. the only complaint i had about the pack was the kidney pad at the bottom of the frame. other than that it was a fairly decent backpack for what i was using it for. carrying everything i owned.

[@OmegaGear]

***** We agree with this fella...the pad on the kidneys and small of back leaves something to be desired. You can find after market pads for it.. The pack itself is great.

[@BigT962]

As others have said quite comfortable other than maybe kidney pad, however newer kidney pads can be purchased on amazon for around $10 that are made for MOLLE but on the review section on that product, you can rig them up to the ALICE pack. Often times, if you find something uncomfortable about the ALICE pack, you can easily and very affordably modify it to fit your needs. Hope it helps!

[@galaxymaster]

If you completely fill it up you can only walk hunched over or you will fall on your butt because this thing is like a barrel on your back. Do that for hours and tell me how you felt.

[@jonny2956]

for general purpose, rugged use and being user friendly this pack in my opinion is unsurpassed. I have found nothing but plastic, cheap wannabes out there. $300 + for a technical bag. I am not knocking mountain climbers or ultralight backpacking, however, in regards to its pure or modified styles, the ALICE is unmatched in reliability.

[@fail220]

imma pack some shrooms

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Looks like it came straight out of World War II & Vietnam and has not aged a day, I really love the olive green, in my personal opinion it looks rather lovely, if not beautiful, it is more then certainly going into my to buy list!

[@kasindakkawe1018]

Can i get your fb account? Im interested that jungle bag.

[@TipAlexify]

Dayz Real Life

[@gamerpro8765]

quiero hacer una Alicepack del juego unturned muy parecida jaja soy fan XDDDD

[@OmegaGear]

+ForeverGame Os ¡Gracias por mirar! ~Craig

[@gamerpro8765]

Suscrito =3

[@OmegaGear]

+ForeverGame Os gracias por suscribirse. ~Craig,Nature Reliance School

[@galaxymaster]

A good review has critisism too.

[@conman2317]

conservative.