Famous - One and Only - Large ALICE Pack - Review

[@reddevilparatrooper]

This is the toughest pack ever made by the US Military. My pack have been in the harsh winters of Europe and the States, the jungles of Panama, red clay of Schofield Barracks Hawaii, and the deserts of Ft. Irwin CA. I also have jumped with it on Airborne operations. These packs are awesome.

[@Type99Arisaka]

I hate that red clay

[@oldtrooper8320]

You ain’t wrong brother... I took mine all over the world, never had an issue... NTC 6 times, Germany & Desert Storm... I’ve still got one and I’m near 60 years old...

[@gregorywarmoth1144]

Tha ALICE pack is to the rucksack world as the AK47 is to the rifle world.

[@AudiowaveTV]

haha, love that comparison! Neither ALICE nor AK47 are necessarily the most elegant things to carry around- but both will *always* get the job done and last you decades at minimum!

[@couchcamperTM]

@@AudiowaveTV unless the AKlices frame breaks ;--)

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

That is...rather accurate,

[@bajamus69]

not the best quality, but always looks bad ass

[@logoseven3365]

Gregory Warmoth Had an ALICE Bought commercial Blew it out Went back to ALICE bought another commercial Broke/returned under warranty Replaced Broke. Returned Hello ALICE That started 31 years ago. I don’t hike like I used to. Loading is critical.

[@danieldinnell4944]

Alice medium with frame, durable, comfortable and roomy. . . with 38 lbs. . . 25 miles coastal hike over 4 days. . . 3 adults with 20 Scouts. . . loved it!

[@aSergeantMajor]

I did about 18 years in SF and the large AlICE was the issue TA-50. Loaded and jumped with it in the 90 to 100 pound loading based on the mission. I have both medium and large versions with frames but one large now rides on a Coleman Ram-X frame retro fitted with MOLLE carrying shoulder straps and waist belt. The secret to making it ride correctly on the issue frame is how you load your gear. At one point some internal frame packs were issued to regular teams but the HALO teams got both the ALICE and the internal frame, given the option the ALICE the one was jumped in and carried. I am a diehard external frame fan, internal frame packs do not make the grade with me. As an aside the ancient and venerable Trapper Nelson (made and sold from the 1920s until the 1970s) is an external frame as was my old Bergen mountain rucksack. For a day pack a pistol belt, H harness belt suspender straps and a butt pack will suffice. Military surplus gear is durable, tough and your best bang for the buck. Hunt SGM (Retd)

[@oldtrooper8320]

On point “Big Sarge”... welcome home brother

[@Eyejrbdysk]

My father was issued this when he was in the army. He has since started using more better camping/ hiking bags so he passed this down to me. He carried this in Germany for a long time. (He served 1998-2003) but since Iv had it, it has been loyal to me. Out of every pack Iv ever owned including for school this pack has just been loyal to me, and iv never had an issue with it. It has survived winters in the Rocky mountains, summers in South American jungle, and overall travel. Love this pack, roughest bag the us ever made

[@mikemaccoy]

As you put more in the load does not have to go out: You use the two closing straps to cinch the load to the frame, just move it around and tighten it down with the straps and you can put the load anywhere you want. You left out that the straps are twice as long as they need to be so you can secure another huge bag to the top of the pack, and they also can be used to wrap and fold the whole bag in on itself when packing a light load. I'll agree it is not the most comfortable bag, but if you really man-handle the straps and get everything tight and where you want it it's not that bad. This pack is INDESTRUCTIBLE. I've had the same one for over 20 years. I have thrown it over fences, off of moving trains, and down cliffs. The only thing that ever broke on it was the rivets that hold the frame together and the aluminum drain grommets on the bottom eventually came out. - But that's after 20 years of serious abuse.

[@josephlininger4947]

I spent years in the a Army and not once did the Alice fail me. My daughter's I'm and wife all have Alice bug out bags and Ms. Alice won't let us down.

[@terrysmith4831]

My friends and I have assembled several Alice "medium" packs for $50 or less, using "new/unissued" packs, frames, L.C.1 or L.C.2 shoulder straps and MOLLE II waist belt. We use only the "medium" Alice pack for exactly the reasons you stated about load profile and balance. Love your channel!

[@baker298]

As a young Marine back in 1988, the ALICE pack was the only option. Still have one as my bug put bag. Always reliable.

[@garygrinkevich6971]

A few years ago I bought my best friend an alice pack with a frame when he went into the peace corps. He thought the frame was a small chair, and didn't like the backpack and ended up replacing it with a jansport... looking back I wonder if I ever really knew the guy I was so disappointed when he told me months later that he couldn't figure it out and didn't even care to research it, just a constant source of heartbreak for me as a friend, mentor, and gearhead.

[@reallyhappenings5597]

Gotta admit that's kind of a funny story though.

[@justinbrown255]

Found a large alice pack with the frame at an estate sale yesterday for $10. It's in perfect shape, practically new!

[@kevinpride6543]

ALICE is THE standard. It makes a great foraging pack. There is an attachable SHELF that fits to the frame, and is great for hauling large, bulky, and heavy items like water cans, tool boxes, firewood, etc. ALICE is the preferred pack for Train Hoppers, because it’s so durable and adaptable. Thanks.

[@jeremymalatt317]

I love this pack. This is the first pack I had when i started hiking on the A.T. over 5 years ago. Since then I tried out different packs, and now I'm using a Osprey Exos 58, heck of a lot lighter, but I will always love the ALICE pack, it's one of the toughest packs I've ever baught. Take Care brother. Strength And Honor. Be Well!

[@1187travis]

Luke, you've got that thing strapped all wrong. I humped the Large in the infantry for the 60mm mortar. I carried 120# of my gear, spare mortar rounds and the full sized base plate for the 101st Airborne. take the shoulder straps and crank them all the way down till the metal binder is touching the top of the ruck. I our case, we took the waist belt, shortened it and buckled it BEHIND the frame and out of the way. You pop the quik-releases BEFORE the waist belt... 120# took you out from behind the knees. Seen it happen. with more weight, that thing isn't going anywhere and you don't need the waist belt. Plus, the heavier the item, the higher it went in the ruck. Thanks for doing this and all your videos. PS~ very jealous of Moose. :-D

[@Bob-eo3gf]

Rakkasan!

[@noneya6334]

I ffkkng hate the ALICE pack... i love my Mystery Ranch pack that i bought it myself! Also, ffkkng hate the Half Shelter too man.. cotton tent, stupid as ffkk and heavy. 0861 if u are wondering.

[@patrickdurham8393]

Commented before I read your reply. Could've saved some typing!

[@johnlewis4325]

Travis nailed it. That is exactly how it was done in the USMC as well. Fantastic ruck. I humped the same one for seven years and still own it.

[@anthonysantana4278]

Obviously this guys never served with 3 rock 96-99 and 1-327th 2006-2013, we had assault packs and the ruck is jumpable.

[@alicepackbackpackfanatic6794]

Hi greetings from Germany and sorry for my bad english. I'm as old as the alice pack and I have both the medium and the large one which originally was for cold weather and expeditions. I also have the manual. When I was young backpacks with external frames are standart. I like them because the air circulate between your back and you don't sweat this much. I use this pack in winter because winter clothing is very bulky but not heavy and in summer to carry my rubberboat with this pack. I carry weigths as much as 45 kilograms, I don't know how much lbs this are but when you carry this amount of stuff you need as you say chinch it tho the frame. I do this with the cargo starps, one throug the lashes of the side pockets (you can use the strap of the 2 qt canteen) and the other with the cargo straps mentioned in the manual in the middle through the lashes on the side or you use the strap of the first aid bag I don't know the really name of this bag but it's not the individual first aid kit this has only alice clips and no strap. I like the alice packs very well and I would like to see them compared with the Berghaus Atlas 2 if you have the chance to get one. I own this one, too but it has internal frame and has small opening lid if you need this for clothes it is ok but bulky stuff fits better in the large alice pack. Nice Video and the idea to open up the stitching of the little pockets is something I need to thinkink about but on the other hand I don't want to destroy ;-) my alice pack. I don't either like the so called modifications on straps or whatever. This pack is nearly 50 years old and was made to last forever with or without modifikations. Best pack in the world. Good video I hope we wil see more in future.

[@stardreamer7556]

Your English is fine, no need to be sorry.

[@richardazzalin4168]

A good report on a versatile pack, the 3 small pockets were designed to hold 2 x 30 round M16(the aluminium ones) each, if you did not know. How did you carry your rubber inflatable canoe/kayak?

[@richardazzalin4168]

M16 magazines, oops!

[@johnstevenson9429]

I have 1 large and 3 medium packs and I have modified mine with molle 2 shoulder straps and waist belt. That makes world of difference in the way they carry. The load lifter adjustments on the molle straps can pull the top of the pace closer and mitigate that feeling of pulling you backwards.

[@concernedcitizen2898]

Much respect for the Corsica. My family drove one in the late 90's and it had a sick red cloth interior.

[@qaz9258]

Neighbor had a garage sale and he offered me one of these. I believe its a medium. Never used it till this summer to get my gear down a mile hike through soft sand to the beach. Have to say it was a game changer. I carry only 25-30lbs up and down in it. The belt makes the difference. I put the blanket folded between the rail and my back. I had no clue that map pocket was there. Thanks for that.

[@einzigkeit7216]

Luke, you excel as a reviewer. I own 2 Large Alice and 5 Medium Alice backpacks, but I favor the larger size. The great thing about these packs is the ability to be highly creative in configuring them. Consequently, I will have to part ways with a few of the medium Alice backpacks as I have an excess which I don't need. :-)

[@SamuelGrog]

you could do a video on improving the alice pack: fastex buckles, 1606 ac frame, molle ii kidney belt and shoulder straps, mss molle ii carrier, compression straps, etc...

[@1187travis]

PS~ That is definetly a KIDNEY pad and not a WAIST pad. If you place it higher onto your kidney area with the shortened shoulder straps, it'll ride like a dream no matter what the weight. And go and find the thicker ALICE shoulder straps. They came in woodland camo and were twice as thick as those OD green ones in your video.

[@robertedwards741]

When I joined the Army in '99 I got my first taste of a Alice pack, with 80 plus pounds in it lol. Vets that have road marched, are not scared to go hiking with weight.

[@GruntProof]

No need to review the greatest pack ever. I was issued this in 2003 and still use it!

[@darylsarbaugh3491]

For several years I carried a SINCGARS and 4 Li-ion batteries. That alone is about 20 lbs. Add 1 BDU Top and Bottoms, 6 Under shirts, 6 Socks, 14Qt of water (29lbs). 2 broken down MREs per day (typically 8) and it became heavy fast. Plus poncho, liner, yeti, 2 clamores, and antenna for either AM or SATCOM. The joy of a LRS Team Jr. RTO. All together ruck alone typically 88lbs we always either cut the waist belt off or taped it down in back assuming you don't need a cargo shelf when retrieving resupplyof food water and batteries. Batteries and water usually required a poncho with some 550 and a snap link. MREs. Usually dropped on a water proof bag not broken down so now you have lots of trash to carry. Fortunately the more water you drank, the lighter your load. And since it was just a few ckicks away from infil site not too bad.

[@petemcpherson2259]

I sewed compression straps on to either side top and bottom of my large ALICE, I seldom load it to the hilt so the straps help keep the load secure and close to my back and I don't feel like I'm carrying a dirty diaper on my back, I love the ALICE PACK.

[@soldierloz]

Pete McPherson I would like to see how you did the compression straps? Laurie

[@markrobbins1821]

You're absolutely right about the love/hate load out. Trick I used was put a Box inside. That. way the load doesn't spread. out the bottom.

[@chrismatthewson4865]

One thing many may not know about the ALICE pack system is its versatility. Perhaps for preppers, bug outs situations, etc.... this pack gives more uses then just a backpack/ruck. The frame and pack can be easily separated. The frame and straps in conjunction with an issued ALICE pack shelf could be used for heavier loads. "Cargo Straps" were issued also for this use. The shelf clips neatly to the bottom of the frame. It allowed for heavy items like 5 gal fuel/water cans, ammo cans stacked 3 high, or radios to be transported with weight centering more on the hip or "kidney" belt. That set up could be handy if gathering wood or materials, water, or boxes of supplies from town! (Ok a little old thinking- but you get it) I've seen some modern bug out Alice packs with the "map pocket" in the cover used for a hydration bladder. Experiment with this setup!!!

[@noneya6334]

I ffkkng hate the ALICE pack... i love my Mystery Ranch pack that i bought it myself! Also, ffkkng hate the Half Shelter too man.. cotton tent, stupid as ffkk and heavy. 0861 if u are wondering.

[@williampennjr.4448]

I remember it well. Our sleeping bag took up most of the space in the pack. I don't know why they didn't issue compression sacks. I didnt know better in those days. If I had I would have bought one myself just to save time rolling it up and trying to stuff it in the ruck sack. I really hope they've improved a lot since the 90's.

[@instantsiv]

"... given to me by my uncle who -was- *is* a marine."

[@overlandvoyager2780]

When I was issued the large pack I redid the straps so they were pulled downward then rolled up the ends. Still have my ALICE.

[@wastelandgoat8950]

My friend, USMC- retired gave me a medium Alice with frame 10 years ago and I've used that thing for everything, Still have it. I did buy a Large Alice on Ebay, basic repairs to fix it, mounted to a modern FILBE frame and using Molle ii shoulder pads and waste belt (for now) and it does help make larger loads more manageable. The main reason I choose to use the large over Medium honestly deals with the pocket layout and size, living in an area where the weather can switch from one extreme to another, having clothes/shelter to change to the conditions is a must. The larger front pocket perfectly stores my entire cook kit in a dry bag, my other quick grab stuff hangs out in the other two pockets. Medium rides with me daily, its with me all the time, large is for when I plan leave and never come home if that should come to be

[@soldierloz]

An absolutely enjoyable presentation! Thank you! Please do a review for the medium size!

[@motomuto3313]

I have a medium ALICE and I love it. It is my go to pack for anything outdoors.

[@ghostface1529]

Fun fact the frames of these packs were actually used in the original Ghostbusters movies as part of the proton packs with the frames obviously used to wear the proton pack

[@Steve-ns2hb]

My son is a former Marine who was in heavy combat over many infantry tours and missions in Afghanistan. He swares by the Alice pack. Said it was very comfortable. Liked it much better than the ILBE.

[@Qui-Dad-Jinn]

Loved my ruck. Bought another large one several years back. Feels fine with a 70 lbs load for 15 miles.

[@JarlSeamus]

I always humped a medium ALICE with a max load around 60 pounds with MREs water and an E-tool. Never had to use the Large, but when we switched over to the humungous MOLLE II pack we suddenly had a load over 100 pounds..... I still have a Med. ALICE for personal use and I love it.

[@mikeboone4425]

Good Will store 12 dollars a real find. as for making it more comfortable with heavy loads you need the tray that fits at the bottom just snaps on . Plus Dave Cantabarry did a video on sack packs suggesting dropping a waste paper basket in the large are of a sack pack .will let me tell you it works makes big improvement with heavy loaded pack tends to bring everything more to the center of the pack . The tray is a must period in any condition . Happy Trails .

[@SaltLakePrepper]

I'm 6'1. As a former fiber optic technician, doing balancing acts on ladders (and in the rain I might ad) I wouldn't even consume caffeine before a job because of the delicate procedures needed for some work. I wanted to buy this pack but knowing what I do about low center of gravity situations and focus I just have to say no. Perhaps a more elongated pack will work better for me. Thanks for posting this you just saved me some time and money my friend. It is obviously a very great pack that is tried and true...but not for somewhat tall people in my opinion. EDIT: I just thought of one other thing; perhaps if I added some gear under the shelf of the pack such as sleeping gear that might balance things out a bit. Thanks!

[@lynnrogers3628]

I was a 60 gunner. My load out was about 125lbs. with the large alice. I love both the med and large, and was just going through both today getting ready for National FTX in Sept. Decided I'll hump the LG alice, but it ain't gonna weigh no 125lbs lol.

[@paulcontursi5982]

I took the medium Alice with a frame on a three day hike along the AT in New York and Connecticut. It did a good job and was fairly comfortable, although I used brand new shoulder straps. I haven't hkiked much with my large Alice yet.

[@MTwoodsrunner]

Alice is a solid pack and well designed...but as you say, how you pack this thing makes all the difference in the world...i'm amazed at how poorly some folks pack their rucks...much of the kit carried by "bushcrafters" never sees the light of day and is better left at home...a lot can be learned from the ultra lite hiking mob as well as from the minimalist camper...long live the Alice!...atvb...woods

[@geraldmiller8973]

i have two medium alice packs. one is on a frame. one of them is an Lc-1 and the other an Lc-2. i prefer the Lc-1 because the buckles are spring loaded. that is the vietnam style alice pack. i got medium packs because i don't think i could carry 70 pounds of anything. all 3 of the outside pockets have the tunnel slot behind them. if you ever need the pack stitched you can take it to a shoe repair shop. they have the machinery to stitch those heavy pieces .

[@kadenwarrenslay4567]

Just bought two of these in perfect condition off of Facebook Marketplace for 20 bucks a piece. I still can't believe it.

[@johnwalsh4948]

Under the medium pack wear combat suspenders with a medical kit between 2 canteens and ammo pouches on the sides...the pack rests on the canteens and medical kit to make carrying a full pack easier.

[@keithmcewan7799]

Just bought one a few months ago, still tweaking my load out on it but loving it. At first I thought it was going to displace the weight wrong as it fills outward so much but getting it worked out. Went out with 50lbs last time carried fine

[@stochasticjihadi1031]

No bs. I carried 48 beers and a box of wine for 3 miles with one of those. I miss that bag like the family dog

[@WayOffTheTrail]

Bought one just like that at a surplus store for $30 about 10 years ago and only used it a couple of times. I had no idea they were going for that much now. Ebay here I come!

[@thesashboyno1]

I Like this Pack, i have also Tasmanian Tiger, wisport and Others Packs, but i Love These old Military Packs, they have a Special charm

[@Flashahol]

I just ordered one, and only now am I watching reviews.... 1 week to delivery is a long wait time. Definitely planning on adding some horizontal compression strap attached to the frame and possibly some quick-releases for the flap, without permanently modifying the existing straps (should be easy enough to do). And, finally, someone agrees with me the medium pack is pretty small.... I'm replacing a backpack that is about the same capacity because I keep running out of room for afternoons at the local pebble beach, I don't see how one could go camping with something that small, even with a tarp for shelter!

[@gilleslanstroffer3518]

The Alice bag the best french Idea ! Thanks

[@mrhellotherehowareu1384]

I have the large pack with frame and a medium pack with the frame. I like the medium pack since you can take it off the frame and use it as a normal backpack.

[@markhager8321]

If you haven’t figured it out yet, Luke’s prices of the surplus packs are much lower than reality, it’s because the supplier jacks up the prices as he sells them on his channel. Just FYI

[@ScottyM1959]

Great video! I always had a medium and took mine when I discharged but I'd Love to to get a large and the one accessory you didn't mention, there is a shelf that you can use on the frame instead of the pack

[@mrhellotherehowareu1384]

Hey I never knew the flap had a Velcro slit! Thanks a lot. I had this bag for years

[@garymathena355]

For mess kits, ext.

[@tomfain9534]

US Large ALICE pack VS Norwegian telemark Rucksack

[@redriverscout4404]

The US army 1952 Mountain rucksack is basically a US made Telemark ruck. Both are great. I also like the Swedish M39 which is essentially the same design minus the exterior pockets.

[@larslevinberget9558]

I was issued the old style Telemark ruck in the Home guard and I would put it alongside the medium Alice pack with frame :)

[@claytonhummel8244]

Had a medium pack for camping. Got more gear and pack got smaller...lol. Just bought a large alice pack. It's great

[@ktooley3864]

I've carried the small, medium , and large doing light infantry. You carry all on your back. Ruck and move. Loved it but hey it was what was issued.

[@TheWxwookie]

I still have mine from 2003. I loaded it out at 90lbs with chem suits strapped outside. Even at 40lbs, I had to lean forward to counter act the weight since it sticks so far out.

[@mrhellotherehowareu1384]

My thought about the pack being more uncomfortable the heavier it gets is due to how the shoulder straps rest on your shoulders. There’s no support other than pulling on your shoulders so you’re fighting leaning forward.

[@joedixon5513]

During my time in the USMC that is all we had. Later on I purchased and used all kinds of Rucks including the newer ILBE. I just went back to the Green Monsters, you just can not beat them. By the way I kept the ILBE Infantry Patrol or Day Pack. I hate using the Assault Pack moniker to me its stupid. Its a Day or Patrol Pack to me. Anyway, I own both the Medium and the Large. The Medium I"am modifying for use in hunting, camping and such, I"am building an internal frame board for it and added pads to its back where the old frame use to go, it works well for my needs. The Large I found through the use of Fastex buckles I can attach a small day pack with a water bladder inside, it doesn't pull back on me at all. I did put Fastex buckles on both my packs but left on the metal hardware they came with. Plastic sometimes breaks. Why not have both?" Later and great vid.

[@RedWhineman]

Medium ALICE vs Molle II 3 Day Assault pack. Thanks!

[@theoverthinker1978]

We used a pack very similar to this made by Tactical Tailor in Air Force Special Warfare. The main differences being that there are clip buckles on all of the compartments, including the main, which made things much easier on us in a time sensitive situation.

[@raldogtm]

Alice pack vs Molle II rucksack

[@BillyBlaze7]

YES

[@deancaul9960]

The way to pack this ruck is light weight items on the bottom and then gradually add heaver to heaviest items stacked on top. One third the weight on the ruck is going to be your personal equipment plus your ammo, frags, smoke and flares. The rest is going to be ammo for the Pig, rounds for the 60mm mortar and batts for the radio. And in the winter it gets a whole lot worse.

[@BAGboy0032]

Alice all day everyday. The MOLLE ruck frames suck and break like nobody’s business.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

Heavier as you go up?? 😂 Things are easier to topple when all the weight is high on any object. That’s why suv’s roll over and F1 cars slide to a stop. Duhh.

[@eugeneenslow8563]

I've rucked both and no comparison. Give me MOLLE or give me death!

[@awh5773]

i have 2 large alice packs . they work great for me and i carry about 30 pounds give or take. i have found that if you get the later edition shoulder straps(the longer camo ones) and also use a sternum strap. this pack carries much , much better. also i have put straps that go around the pack (from left to right)and attached to both sides of the frame. you can sinch the pack and load closer to the frame and your back. mind you this works for me really well and i am 6 foot 3 in tall and about 215 pounds and i have been in a very bad car accident with spinal injuries. but i will not let that stop me from getting out and enjoying life and the outdoors. the straps i use are the ones made by coligans (sorry if i misspelled) . i hope this can help others these are great packs. also i have an ILBE 2ND GENERATION. that one feels better to carry but i do have to manage the load better. stay safe out there people , have fun and again i hope this may help some of you out there

[@georgesayago9090]

Luke I have the medium and the large Alice pack but I use a BULL PACK FRAME and can’t said haw well the work together. Both the medium and the large were bought new and I planning to keep them for ever. I hike during winter normally for a 3-4 days hike at the Rocky Mountains and this combination Alice /Bull Pack is perfect for me. Thanks for the review.

[@leegrubb6753]

Alice pack VS ILBE full pack!

[@seniorchiefharris]

Would enjoy you comparing a 'stock' large Alice Pack to a fully tricked out/modified Alice Pack (i.e.; new improved shoulder pads w/chest strap, new improved belt/back pads, quick release buckles, etc.). I think you just might change your mind about which would be best for a heavier or even a light load! Thanks for this review, I enjoyed it!!!

[@MDKDAF]

My first car was a 1993 Chevrolet Corrisca too! Mine was a mix of blue, bare metal, and rust colored lol.

[@johnmeyers541]

Good video, Luke. I suggest Inserting a 3 mil contractor's plastic in the inner compartment to keep all other items packed inside dry. It is very lightweight and could be used for multiple purposes in the campsite. Keep up the good videos. I'm a dedicated fan.

[@TheP0STMAN]

Ever thought about modifying the straps? Did mine and love it even more.

[@bp93yj]

I hike with a hellcat modified medium Alice and it is heavy but comfortable. Basically I replaced the straps and waist belt with molle 2 belt and shoulder straps.

[@honorservice8073]

I was a mortarmen in the army and I used this over my molle ruck and I carried lots of weight due to my mos and I honestly found the factor of people who didn't like them was build of body ie torso length

[@ireland66613]

Helps to have shoulder straps on right way hahahaha great vid

[@MQuinn-eb3zz]

Love the ALICE; its always been my main camping/hiking pack. I can use a medium pack for a 3 night camp out if I'm partnered with someone else without using a frame (one person shelter, the other food). The large ALICE pack can be real comfortable, if packed well or a painful nightmare if not. Those long straps are great for a sleeping bag. In a long term base camp situation, I like to carry the add on shelf to carry firewood. The pass-through pockets as well as those ALICE attachments are great for carrying extra gear as long as you plan out the load.

[@212caboose]

You should do a review of the large ALICE pack on a FILBE frame/suspension system, and how it carries.

[@SurviveN2]

To help this pack out...put the new Molle shoulder straps and Kidney belt on it...much better. Next get out the old sewing kit and some fastex buckles and rework the cover straps by adding the buckles. I added a handle to the top of the pack. To fix the cinch issue on the Lg middle pouch...get some eyelets, cord and a cordlock...problem solved ;-))

[@Buschpirat]

Ahoi Luke. Thanks for this review. What about a VS with the LK35? Greetings, Azze

[@Jeff-rc7ph]

Thanks for the review. I like mine because of sentimental reasons more than functionality. it's a love hate relationship.

[@TheOutdoorGearReview]

I have seen a lot of people say the same thing. Take care brother. - Luke

[@keithvantassel947]

in my Baja. bug I used it to store emergency survival items in case I got stuck somewhere for a day or 3, worked great for that

[@paultaylor9273]

I have 2 alice packs, one med, one large. I used one in the Marines and loved it. Hard to beat as far as all around pack

[@caleb.harmond_5172]

I like how big the pack is.

[@Legionnaire7777]

You should check out a modern version of the alice pack, the Jayjays beast bergen made in the U.K.

[@NyNNyXXX]

Large ALICE Pack vs. Savotta Jäger pack with pouches.

[@TheOutdoorGearReview]

Excellent idea! - Luke

[@jaredwiggins539]

@@TheOutdoorGearReview I don't have any experiences with that Pack but I do highly recommend storing a Knife Arsenal Carry Case inside the Flap Pocket or Main Compartment/Pocket of that Pack!

[@georgelaurie3587]

I've got one of these it's the med size and I love it I also have the frame on my pack..the large one you got is killer pack if ya don't load it rite it will just make a hike a day of hell on ur feet and knees but ya cant find tougher pack than this I use mine for hammock camping and all that need fits well and like ya easy to find replacement parts for I got mine from the marine corps if ya find the waterproof bags for it it will keep all of your gear bone dry.. huge plus I say

[@JS-xs5hq]

Thanks for a thorough review and thanks for getting straight to the point........unlike most KZbinrs who feel obligated to inform the world of their breakfast menu choices and how they are feeeeeeling. Thanks brother.

[@vincentthornton8192]

I rate these packs. Thought they were indestructible until carried on the side of a M113 and the driver slides into a high bank.

[@captainvette2112]

The large Alice pack is GREAT once you rip off the kidney belt and shoulder straps and replace them with the Molle 2 kidney and shoulder straps and then add the Molle 2 sleep system bag to the bottom which takes it up to almost 5k of total space. Its called the Hellcat Mod... you will be into the pack for about $130 at that point but it makes the pack usable with very heavy loads. Why not just get the modern Molle 2 USGI large main pack for the same price??? Good question. Maybe you like being retro?

[@reaganl.5113]

LC1 was heavy and miserable and canvas as I recall, but the LC2 was an improvement being nylon and actually lighter...especially when wet! I think a large ALICE LC2 vs MOLLE II Rifleman ruck with the same load. Maybe even cover the Hellcat mods? Hybrid MOLLE/ALICE setups I have seen?

[@4BearWarrior]

I have a large Alice Pack and love it.

[@nadermazari3334]

I used this at Ft. Riley back in 1988. Overall, I liked it but it is definitely not waterproof. We used the waterproof rubber lined bags to keep clothes in and then placed them inside the main compartment. Yes, when filled to capacity, it is awkward to hump. Just as you stated, the weight is too far rearward. I bought 2 of these at the base store brand new along with water bottles, a US military compass, load bearing equipment (ammo mag carriers) and an entrenching tool. All brand new. The packs were only $30.00 a piece! I never ever used the stuff LOL! We all have dreams of camping...in my case life got in the way, family, work etc. But getting close to retirement I am finally making plans. If nothing else, this equipment reminds me of my happy days in the army.

[@mos3362]

Ive jumped mine with 85 pounds, 12 mile rucks, and many field events and it is a great ruck even with heavy loads way more comfortable then the molle garbage! Wish CIF still issued Alice packs.

[@corazzinatanner498]

Your comment about the pockets being larger on the large Alice compared to the medium Alice is not true. The three pockets on the medium are all the same size and are taller, wider, and have more depth than those on the large. The two outside pockets on the large are similar to a medium but are not have the same width or depth, the center pocket is much wider but doesn't have as much depth as the two outside pockets. By depth I mean how far they stick out from the main compartment. Also the three smaller pockets on the upper portion of the large Alice are there to hold six 30 round STANAG mags.

[@MrCheckitout123]

not many pack were you can remove your pack and use the frame and lashings to transpo fire wood, water, game, etc. 30rnd 556 mags fit in the 3 top pockets. use the three other lower pockets for FWM. food-water-medical.

[@loganstallsmith8712]

There are many upgrades available, get a Tactical Tailor hip belt and straps it will make a world of difference. There's also the American made Malice pack frames which are compatible.

[@JDSly1]

I have this pack and like it a lot. I bought an inner compression bag like you suggested and it helps quite a bit. Makes a big difference when the load isn't riding so low and wide. In warm weather the frame creates a gap between the pack and my back allowing for air flow. A nice feature.

[@ourtechwriter]

Love it! Just got a large.

[@Dingomush]

Really love the large Alice pack, I put all my catfishing gear such as weights, rod holders, bait, clips, etc. Plus I also pack a small stove, coffee/cooking pot, utensils and spices and snacks. Carries everything I need to be out all day and night in one trip. Best bag I've ever owned.

[@stealthandy638]

morning mi friend . how's about the British army 120 lt bergen. ATB

[@desmovilizadosdelserviciom3496]

I had one medium back pack gifted to me in 1980 when I was 13 years old, I did used in the milicias training , in the reserve army , but it was until 1985 when I found out how nice to have a quick realice on the harness , my Company exploración came under fire in the rain forest of Nicaragua ( Contras - Sandinistas War ) we where marching in column and got orders to cover Left an right and advance to counter attack an rescue the explorers , we manage to gain terrain until stop by the enemy fire power , unfortunately for me when we came to stop I was in a clear area and when I when down my back Pack “ Americano ) like we called was visible to the enemy and they fire at me coming very close , each time I fire back with my AK 47 a light marching gun will spray me with fire 🔥 that is when I found out how nice is to have a Quick realice on my back pack harness , I was able to release and put to my side the pack pack , that way was harder for them to pin point me , until one of my soldier friend came with a RPG 7 an told me To get ready to move when he fire 🔥 To the spot I was been fire from , I never forget that harness Clíp and the nice sound of a RPG 7 Saving my live , I was the “ Politician of the Company “ On a comunist army , that is 2do en charge of the company , you don’t have that in Western Armies , ( I am not comunist , probably I never was )

[@williammudge1521]

Medium all the way. I added two sustainment pouches and new kidney pad to mine. Also, I carry 2qt canteens on each side.